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Best wishes to her for a fast recovery! My 'neurotypical' child (I don't

know if that fits, actually..she's not on the spectrum, but she has

seizure disorder..it's my 6 yos that is considered high-functioning

autistic) had her tonsils/adenoids taken out almost a year ago and has

felt and slept so much better. No more snoring, and better quality

sleep. Her speech even changed, and she'd had two years of therapy to

get her Rs out right as she had dysarthric speech. Anyway, the recovery

went really well, and we were prepared for worse. She had no bleeding or

scab issues, the worst was the sore-throat pain. We of course worried

too about it causing more seizures, but she went 7.5 mths after the

surgery without any at all! Longest period of time we'd had, we thought

we'd beaten it.

The surgery was a huge help for her. She's still got problems --

sphenoid sinus fluid, another CT scan on 1/29, and daily antibiotics.

Possible outpatient procedure to fix the sinus (deviated septum, too)

but we'll see. It's so much for a 12 yo to deal with, but she's a trooper!

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> Its kind of funny that this subject came up, because my aspie is going

> in on the 19th to have her tonsils removed. She has had horrible

> snoring, and chronic infections. One tonsil just about blocks have her

> throat the poor dear. My other non-aspie daughter is having just her

> adenoids out on the 30th. She has had chronic ear infections, and her

> ear drum ruptured again this past friday. My hopes are that these

> things will improve after this:-( Just worried about the recoveries is

> all. Just wanted to add my 2 cents!

> Take Care,

> Sheryl mom to Becky 10 AS

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I never thought of bedwetting as another sympton of Aspergers but

seems many have the same problem. Interesting.

My daughter, HFA, doesn't nor hasn't in the past had a bedwetting

problem.

My son, Aspie, has and still does have a bedwetting problem. He has

about the same dry nights as wet. About the only thing I've been doing

to help him is let him have a drink of water an hour before bed, have

him use the potty just before getting into bed, and wake him to use

the bathroom again before husband and I go to bed about midnight.

He does real well those nights, and not so much when I don't. I need

to be more consistant with this routine. My bad.

~Claudette

>

> After reading this I have a question is bed wetting another symptom

of Aspergers?

>

> still has accidents and he won't stay the night anywhere! The

only time he has slept away from home was when we were there with him.

>

>

> White

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My son never slept throught the night, usually in the kitchen to get

something to eat, yet he was still wetting the bed at 11 yr old. We

tried everything, medication, ect. but couldn't understand why he

would wet the bed when he was getting up once or twice a night and

coming to the kitchen. During his testing, the doctor pointed out that

since he has a terrible time with decision making he probably couldn't

make the decision to get out of bed and go to the bathroom. He has

been on Adderall XL for a couple of months and hasn't wet the bed

once. I think that he is able to think clearer now. Of course, now we

have trouble getting him to sleep, but once he is asleep he sleeps all

night now.

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Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different from Asperger's.

And I'm aware that 'straight' autism is different from

'high-functioning' autism, but they are both different degrees of autism

and are both on the autism spectrum. Both are autism.

Tom wrote:

>

> just so you know high fuctioning autism is the same

> thing a asperger's,straight autism is different from

> high fuctioning autism,

> --- Donna B <donnabzy@... <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > My 6 yos (high-functioning autism) still doesn't

> > have full control of

> > potty issues. Per the neuro, we have to remember

> > that autism is also

> > called a developmental disorder, hence meaning

> > developmental delays. I

> > don't know as much about Asperger's as I do autism,

> > but I know it's

> > definitely a commonality among those on the

> > spectrum.

> >

> > White wrote:

> > >

> > > After reading this I have a question is bed

> > wetting another symptom of

> > > Aspergers?

> > >

> > > still has accidents and he won't stay the

> > night anywhere! The

> > > only time he has slept away from home was when we

> > were there with him.

> > >

> > > White

> > >

>

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if you talk to fred volkmar who is working on the

dsm-5 that hfa and asperger's are the same thing we

just had a convention with him he said hfa and

asperger are the same thing and rett's syndrome is not

autism,they want to change PDD-NOS to atypial

autism,make hfa and asperger's the same thing for

diagnosising drop rett's drop CDD.plus there is a

total of eight autism spectrum disorders not just

five.

--- Donna B <donnabzy@...> wrote:

> Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different

> from Asperger's.

>

> And I'm aware that 'straight' autism is different

> from

> 'high-functioning' autism, but they are both

> different degrees of autism

> and are both on the autism spectrum. Both are

> autism.

>

>

> Tom wrote:

> >

> > just so you know high fuctioning autism is the

> same

> > thing a asperger's,straight autism is different

> from

> > high fuctioning autism,

> > --- Donna B <donnabzy@...

> <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> >

> > > My 6 yos (high-functioning autism) still doesn't

> > > have full control of

> > > potty issues. Per the neuro, we have to remember

> > > that autism is also

> > > called a developmental disorder, hence meaning

> > > developmental delays. I

> > > don't know as much about Asperger's as I do

> autism,

> > > but I know it's

> > > definitely a commonality among those on the

> > > spectrum.

> > >

> > > White wrote:

> > > >

> > > > After reading this I have a question is bed

> > > wetting another symptom of

> > > > Aspergers?

> > > >

> > > > still has accidents and he won't stay the

> > > night anywhere! The

> > > > only time he has slept away from home was when

> we

> > > were there with him.

> > > >

> > > > White

> > > >

> >

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Donna B wrote:

" Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different from Asperger's. "

I think that's under debate. " the Parent's guide to Aspergers and HFA "

spends a few pages describing the controversy, asserts that they are

indeed different, but then says they are so indistinguishable after age

3 that the rest of the book will treat them as the exact same thing.

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I don't remember seeing anyone say there were just five types of autism

-- did I miss something?

For now, HFA is just a label of a level of autism, and Asperger's is a

different diagnosis on the spectrum. Until/if the DSM change is

official, doctors all over use the terms in their own way -- some say

they are interchangeable, others say they are entirely separate, with

the key difference being when the child learned to speak, e.g. was there

a speech delay or not? In our case, my son's speech was delayed, not

typical with an Asperger's diagnosis.

I use high-functioning because my son is extremely verbal but has all

the rest of the earmarks from a 'regular' (hate that word) autism

diagnosis, and for me, using the term 'high-functioning' helps those who

are responsible for working with him be prepared.

Rett's is an actual genetic disorder, yes? I wonder if that's where they

make the distinction to separate it? That's interesting.

Tom wrote:

>

> if you talk to fred volkmar who is working on the

> dsm-5 that hfa and asperger's are the same thing we

> just had a convention with him he said hfa and

> asperger are the same thing and rett's syndrome is not

> autism,they want to change PDD-NOS to atypial

> autism,make hfa and asperger's the same thing for

> diagnosising drop rett's drop CDD.plus there is a

> total of eight autism spectrum disorders not just

> five.

> --- Donna B <donnabzy@... <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different

> > from Asperger's.

> >

> > And I'm aware that 'straight' autism is different

> > from

> > 'high-functioning' autism, but they are both

> > different degrees of autism

> > and are both on the autism spectrum. Both are

> > autism.

> >

> >

> > Tom wrote:

> > >

> > > just so you know high fuctioning autism is the

> > same

> > > thing a asperger's,straight autism is different

> > from

> > > high fuctioning autism,

> > > --- Donna B <donnabzy@... <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>

> > <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > >

> > > > My 6 yos (high-functioning autism) still doesn't

> > > > have full control of

> > > > potty issues. Per the neuro, we have to remember

> > > > that autism is also

> > > > called a developmental disorder, hence meaning

> > > > developmental delays. I

> > > > don't know as much about Asperger's as I do

> > autism,

> > > > but I know it's

> > > > definitely a commonality among those on the

> > > > spectrum.

> > > >

> > > > White wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > After reading this I have a question is bed

> > > > wetting another symptom of

> > > > > Aspergers?

> > > > >

> > > > > still has accidents and he won't stay the

> > > > night anywhere! The

> > > > > only time he has slept away from home was when

> > we

> > > > were there with him.

> > > > >

> > > > > White

> > > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

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when will the revised dsm be out? i wonder if/how this will change services?

Tom <tmt.family@...> wrote: if you talk to fred volkmar who

is working on the

dsm-5 that hfa and asperger's are the same thing we

just had a convention with him he said hfa and

asperger are the same thing and rett's syndrome is not

autism,they want to change PDD-NOS to atypial

autism,make hfa and asperger's the same thing for

diagnosising drop rett's drop CDD.plus there is a

total of eight autism spectrum disorders not just

five.

--- Donna B <donnabzy@...> wrote:

> Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different

> from Asperger's.

>

> And I'm aware that 'straight' autism is different

> from

> 'high-functioning' autism, but they are both

> different degrees of autism

> and are both on the autism spectrum. Both are

> autism.

>

>

> Tom wrote:

> >

> > just so you know high fuctioning autism is the

> same

> > thing a asperger's,straight autism is different

> from

> > high fuctioning autism,

> > --- Donna B <donnabzy@...

> <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> >

> > > My 6 yos (high-functioning autism) still doesn't

> > > have full control of

> > > potty issues. Per the neuro, we have to remember

> > > that autism is also

> > > called a developmental disorder, hence meaning

> > > developmental delays. I

> > > don't know as much about Asperger's as I do

> autism,

> > > but I know it's

> > > definitely a commonality among those on the

> > > spectrum.

> > >

> > > White wrote:

> > > >

> > > > After reading this I have a question is bed

> > > wetting another symptom of

> > > > Aspergers?

> > > >

> > > > still has accidents and he won't stay the

> > > night anywhere! The

> > > > only time he has slept away from home was when

> we

> > > were there with him.

> > > >

> > > > White

> > > >

> >

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Yeah, definitely -- they are, and it'll be interesting to see the end

result, however long it takes.

Here in California, at least as far as Regional Centers and a lot of the

doctors go, they are still entirely separate. A regional center

diagnosis is huge in getting services outside of the school, and a

'wrong' diagnosis can hurt what the kids get in school.

Honestly though, until it's separate in the DSM, I think we're all going

to see different doctors who use the terms however they like. One of my

most favorite doctors, who has since passed away, thought they were the

same but other doctors we see are very careful about the term autism and

say 'high-functioning' all the time, saving 'autism' for the non-verbal

kids..I think for some it's a personal thing, they hate to 'stigmatize'

a child.

Personally, the labels don't matter to me -- what matters is that my son

gets the services he needs, and sadly labels drive services.

That Parent's Guide book is excellent, btw! It's in my dusty pile of

tons of books I keep meaning to finish ;)

Earl and wrote:

>

> Donna B wrote:

>

> " Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different from Asperger's. "

>

> I think that's under debate. " the Parent's guide to Aspergers and HFA "

> spends a few pages describing the controversy, asserts that they are

> indeed different, but then says they are so indistinguishable after age

> 3 that the rest of the book will treat them as the exact same thing.

>

>

>

>

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or in our case what day you see alex.. he can appear completly normal...all the

way to profoundly autistic depending on his environment,, foods hes eaten, sleep

etc...

<cmcintosh5@...> wrote: See... Its all how you look at it

too.. Because that's why its called a

spectrum. My son was diagnosed with " straight autism " so to speak when he

was 3... But.. If he were to be diagnosed today.. I am sure it would be high

functioning.. Or aspergers..

It really only truly matters in my opinion .. When it comes to insurance

and coverage and things they qualify for.

-- Re: ( ) How much sleep?

Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different from Asperger's.

And I'm aware that 'straight' autism is different from

'high-functioning' autism, but they are both different degrees of autism

and are both on the autism spectrum. Both are autism.

Tom wrote:

>

> just so you know high fuctioning autism is the same

> thing a asperger's,straight autism is different from

> high fuctioning autism,

> --- Donna B <donnabzy@... <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > My 6 yos (high-functioning autism) still doesn't

> > have full control of

> > potty issues. Per the neuro, we have to remember

> > that autism is also

> > called a developmental disorder, hence meaning

> > developmental delays. I

> > don't know as much about Asperger's as I do autism,

> > but I know it's

> > definitely a commonality among those on the

> > spectrum.

> >

> > White wrote:

> > >

> > > After reading this I have a question is bed

> > wetting another symptom of

> > > Aspergers?

> > >

> > > still has accidents and he won't stay the

> > night anywhere! The

> > > only time he has slept away from home was when we

> > were there with him.

> > >

> > > White

> > >

>

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The insurance thing, a whole new ballpark!

I look at it like the whole spectrum of a rainbow -- if you're red,

orange, yellow, blue, etc., it doesn't matter, you're still in the

spectrum of the rainbow. (It helps to have a pretty explanation at times

when you're dealing with someone completely in the dark about autism,

and that's about as flowery as I get LOL)

Donna

wrote:

>

> See... Its all how you look at it too.. Because that's why its called a

> spectrum. My son was diagnosed with " straight autism " so to speak when he

> was 3... But.. If he were to be diagnosed today.. I am sure it would

> be high

> functioning.. Or aspergers..

> It really only truly matters in my opinion .. When it comes to insurance

> and coverage and things they qualify for.

>

> -- Re: ( ) How much sleep?

>

> Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different from Asperger's.

>

> And I'm aware that 'straight' autism is different from

> 'high-functioning' autism, but they are both different degrees of autism

> and are both on the autism spectrum. Both are autism.

>

> Tom wrote:

> >

> > just so you know high fuctioning autism is the same

> > thing a asperger's,straight autism is different from

> > high fuctioning autism,

> > --- Donna B <donnabzy@... <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>

> <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

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I can relate! Ds has days that are much better than others. It all

depends on what time of day someone else would see him, and on a good

day, a day where things are going really well, you'd probably just think

he's spoiled or tired...but we don't have a lot of those days yet.

HEATHER BEEM wrote:

>

> or in our case what day you see alex.. he can appear completly

> normal...all the way to profoundly autistic depending on his

> environment,, foods hes eaten, sleep etc...

> <cmcintosh5@... <mailto:cmcintosh5%40cogeco.ca>> wrote:

> See... Its all how you look at it too.. Because that's why its called a

> spectrum. My son was diagnosed with " straight autism " so to speak when he

> was 3... But.. If he were to be diagnosed today.. I am sure it would

> be high

> functioning.. Or aspergers..

> It really only truly matters in my opinion .. When it comes to insurance

> and coverage and things they qualify for.

>

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See... Its all how you look at it too.. Because that's why its called a

spectrum. My son was diagnosed with " straight autism " so to speak when he

was 3... But.. If he were to be diagnosed today.. I am sure it would be high

functioning.. Or aspergers..

It really only truly matters in my opinion .. When it comes to insurance

and coverage and things they qualify for.

-- Re: ( ) How much sleep?

Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different from Asperger's.

And I'm aware that 'straight' autism is different from

'high-functioning' autism, but they are both different degrees of autism

and are both on the autism spectrum. Both are autism.

Tom wrote:

>

> just so you know high fuctioning autism is the same

> thing a asperger's,straight autism is different from

> high fuctioning autism,

> --- Donna B <donnabzy@... <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > My 6 yos (high-functioning autism) still doesn't

> > have full control of

> > potty issues. Per the neuro, we have to remember

> > that autism is also

> > called a developmental disorder, hence meaning

> > developmental delays. I

> > don't know as much about Asperger's as I do autism,

> > but I know it's

> > definitely a commonality among those on the

> > spectrum.

> >

> > White wrote:

> > >

> > > After reading this I have a question is bed

> > wetting another symptom of

> > > Aspergers?

> > >

> > > still has accidents and he won't stay the

> > night anywhere! The

> > > only time he has slept away from home was when we

> > were there with him.

> > >

> > > White

> > >

>

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Amen donna LOL I always say.. Call my kid purple for all I care.. Just

educate him and get him the services he needs! LOL

I gave my son's teacher an autism lanyard I bought online today too.!

-- Re: ( ) How much sleep?

>

> Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different from Asperger's.

>

> And I'm aware that 'straight' autism is different from

> 'high-functioning' autism, but they are both different degrees of autism

> and are both on the autism spectrum. Both are autism.

>

> Tom wrote:

> >

> > just so you know high fuctioning autism is the same

> > thing a asperger's,straight autism is different from

> > high fuctioning autism,

> > --- Donna B <donnabzy@... <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>

> <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

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SO TRUE!!!

-- Re: ( ) How much sleep?

Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different from Asperger's.

And I'm aware that 'straight' autism is different from

'high-functioning' autism, but they are both different degrees of autism

and are both on the autism spectrum. Both are autism.

Tom wrote:

>

> just so you know high fuctioning autism is the same

> thing a asperger's,straight autism is different from

> high fuctioning autism,

> --- Donna B <donnabzy@... <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > My 6 yos (high-functioning autism) still doesn't

> > have full control of

> > potty issues. Per the neuro, we have to remember

> > that autism is also

> > called a developmental disorder, hence meaning

> > developmental delays. I

> > don't know as much about Asperger's as I do autism,

> > but I know it's

> > definitely a commonality among those on the

> > spectrum.

> >

> > White wrote:

> > >

> > > After reading this I have a question is bed

> > wetting another symptom of

> > > Aspergers?

> > >

> > > still has accidents and he won't stay the

> > night anywhere! The

> > > only time he has slept away from home was when we

> > were there with him.

> > >

> > > White

> > >

>

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I agree with you Donna. My son too doesn't really fit the label of aspergers,

he has a major speech delay, has no problems with gross motor skills, etc...

He fits better with the diagnosis of HFA, ASD is a spectrum disorder and I

would put my son somewhere in the middle of the specrtum, he certainly isn't

AS.

Beck

Re: ( ) How much sleep?

I don't remember seeing anyone say there were just five types of autism

-- did I miss something?

For now, HFA is just a label of a level of autism, and Asperger's is a

different diagnosis on the spectrum. Until/if the DSM change is

official, doctors all over use the terms in their own way -- some say

they are interchangeable, others say they are entirely separate, with

the key difference being when the child learned to speak, e.g. was there

a speech delay or not? In our case, my son's speech was delayed, not

typical with an Asperger's diagnosis.

I use high-functioning because my son is extremely verbal but has all

the rest of the earmarks from a 'regular' (hate that word) autism

diagnosis, and for me, using the term 'high-functioning' helps those who

are responsible for working with him be prepared.

Rett's is an actual genetic disorder, yes? I wonder if that's where they

make the distinction to separate it? That's interesting.

Tom wrote:

>

> if you talk to fred volkmar who is working on the

> dsm-5 that hfa and asperger's are the same thing we

> just had a convention with him he said hfa and

> asperger are the same thing and rett's syndrome is not

> autism,they want to change PDD-NOS to atypial

> autism,make hfa and asperger's the same thing for

> diagnosising drop rett's drop CDD.plus there is a

> total of eight autism spectrum disorders not just

> five.

> --- Donna B <donnabzy@... <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different

> > from Asperger's.

> >

> > And I'm aware that 'straight' autism is different

> > from

> > 'high-functioning' autism, but they are both

> > different degrees of autism

> > and are both on the autism spectrum. Both are

> > autism.

> >

> >

> > Tom wrote:

> > >

> > > just so you know high fuctioning autism is the

> > same

> > > thing a asperger's,straight autism is different

> > from

> > > high fuctioning autism,

> > > --- Donna B <donnabzy@... <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>

> > <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > >

> > > > My 6 yos (high-functioning autism) still doesn't

> > > > have full control of

> > > > potty issues. Per the neuro, we have to remember

> > > > that autism is also

> > > > called a developmental disorder, hence meaning

> > > > developmental delays. I

> > > > don't know as much about Asperger's as I do

> > autism,

> > > > but I know it's

> > > > definitely a commonality among those on the

> > > > spectrum.

> > > >

> > > > White wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > After reading this I have a question is bed

> > > > wetting another symptom of

> > > > > Aspergers?

> > > > >

> > > > > still has accidents and he won't stay the

> > > > night anywhere! The

> > > > > only time he has slept away from home was when

> > we

> > > > were there with him.

> > > > >

> > > > > White

> > > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

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In order to make HFA and AS the same diagnosis they would need to relax the

current criteria for AS to include kids with speech delay, kids without gross

motor problems etc. The whole DSM needs a work over in the area of Autism.

There was talk also of just dropping the diagnosis of AS and going back to just

Autism, some people being higher functioing than others. I personally would

like to see that happen.

Beck J

Re: ( ) How much sleep?

if you talk to fred volkmar who is working on the

dsm-5 that hfa and asperger's are the same thing we

just had a convention with him he said hfa and

asperger are the same thing and rett's syndrome is not

autism,they want to change PDD-NOS to atypial

autism,make hfa and asperger's the same thing for

diagnosising drop rett's drop CDD.plus there is a

total of eight autism spectrum disorders not just

five.

--- Donna B <donnabzy@...> wrote:

> Actually, no -- high functioning autism is different

> from Asperger's.

>

> And I'm aware that 'straight' autism is different

> from

> 'high-functioning' autism, but they are both

> different degrees of autism

> and are both on the autism spectrum. Both are

> autism.

>

>

> Tom wrote:

> >

> > just so you know high fuctioning autism is the

> same

> > thing a asperger's,straight autism is different

> from

> > high fuctioning autism,

> > --- Donna B <donnabzy@...

> <mailto:donnabzy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> >

> > > My 6 yos (high-functioning autism) still doesn't

> > > have full control of

> > > potty issues. Per the neuro, we have to remember

> > > that autism is also

> > > called a developmental disorder, hence meaning

> > > developmental delays. I

> > > don't know as much about Asperger's as I do

> autism,

> > > but I know it's

> > > definitely a commonality among those on the

> > > spectrum.

> > >

> > > White wrote:

> > > >

> > > > After reading this I have a question is bed

> > > wetting another symptom of

> > > > Aspergers?

> > > >

> > > > still has accidents and he won't stay the

> > > night anywhere! The

> > > > only time he has slept away from home was when

> we

> > > were there with him.

> > > >

> > > > White

> > > >

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I didn't know that.

Question: What is " straight " autism? How does that compare to Kenner's Autism?

( ) How much sleep?

> >

> > This is interesting.

> >

> > always takes a long time to go to sleep

> and wakes early (which

> > is good because wakes earlier so eventually

> I can get back to

> > bed for a short while!). But once he's gone he's

> gone!

> >

> > He's currently sharing with (he really

> needs his own space

> > and is a major part of why we're moving) and he

> seems to manage to get

> > to sleep before and sleep through any of

> ' nonsense.

> >

> > But he's never been dry at night (at 8.5 years)

> and we think it's

> > because he sleeps so deeply once he's asleep.

> >

> > He snores like a train too and we had a sleep

> study done as his father

> > has sleep apnea. They didn't find apnea as such

> but that his oxygen

> > levels drop a fair amount when he's asleep.

> >

> > So even if there isn't sleep apnea they might not

> be getting enough O2

> > while sleeping and so not getting the rest they

> need.

> >

> > Interestingly ,the middle one, talks

> constantly - even as

> > he's going under water in swimming lessons. He

> talks in his sleep,

> > yells and screams and falls out of bed almost

> every night as he's so

> > active in his sleep.

> >

> > 's positively normal in his sleep habits in

> comparison!

> > Now if only we could teach to sleep

> through...not an unbroken

> > night in 20 months!

> >

> > Eleanor, mummy to (8.5, AS),

> (nearly 6) and

> > (20 months old).

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