Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 Sounds good, by the way, just reminded me, she was on zithromax about a month or two ago for an ear infection, did nothing for her. Have fun at the movie, she wants to bake a cake, so if it keeps her happy and I can eat it later, she can have fun. -- In @y..., " Judith Lovchik " <jlovchik@h...> wrote: > Yeah, it does get tougher when they are adolescents. Mine is 16 and can be > a real pain. Adolescence is bad enough without being compounded by OCD! > And mine has real bad ADD also. I find it exhausting. Maybe I need to break > a leg to get some rest. But we are still good buddies intermittently. > Today I helped him finish the laundry so we can go to a movie together--A > Beautiful Mind, about a brilliant successful person who suffered from > schizophrenia. I figured it might help him realize a person can succeed > even with severe mental problems. > > Judy > Re: bad day at school > > > Judy: > > I understand what you say, and I am sure that some of 's problems > are > " seeing what she can get by with " not all ocd (After all, she will be 13 > next > month and that is about the time I went thru the " attitude " with her older > sister...) up until all of this happened, her and I were mother and > daughter > but also buddies, we did everything together. It's really wierd, one > minute > she will be in my room watching a movie with me or joking around or just > talking and the next minute she acts like I have the plague. I am in an > immobilizer from the top of my leg to almost my ankle and cannot drive > right > now and probably wont be able to for quite a while, and she even said to > me > that I should not have allowed myself to get hurt.....like I did it on > purpose. Now she is " forced " into doing things for herself as I admit, I > did > alot for her, and she is not liking it too much. The therapist said that > it > could be a very good thing because it forces her to do some of the things > I > would otherwise would have done for her and have a hard time quitting > doing > for her and a good thing for me because I am forced now not to give in and > do > it for her. She is right I know, it just hurts to think I'm losing the > battle in getting her better. Now that knows she has to do for > herself, it is making her angry. I have noticed in the past week her > symptom > monitoring has seemed to act up a little more also. Could be from me > being > hurt??? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Jeannie: We are working on an adolescent program now as well, I have a 2 colleagues in the program with ++ experience with adolescents and weight loss and I can probably share with you some of the things we are working on. contact me privately (phone may be best) and we can share resources! Laschkewitsch RD LDDietitian, Legacy Obesity Institute(503) 413-8135 -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of jeannie_reed04Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:41 AM Subject: Adolescents The program I work with is developing a separate series of classes for adolescent patients in their parents. There will be a nutrition and psych component and parents and children will meet together for part of the time as well separately. Does anyone have experience with adolescent bariatric patients? Could you offer any advice regarding how to counsel, what topics to cover in classes, what to focus on first, etc. Thanks so much for your help.Jeannie IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should contact the sender and delete the message. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I see lots of postings about younger kids. My dd is 15 - her problems started inutero as my signature states. How do you help an adolescent - girl? She also was on risperdal for a while and gained 50 pounds. It has not come off so we have body image too. I'm feeling quite lost right now and my heart continues to bleed for her. Sandie, 54 with ankylosing spondilitis & depression married to 10 years. Mom to: Daughter-32 - BP-special ed teacher in NH-single, Son-31-electronics store mgr-married with 3 little ones from 9 mos to 6 yrs, Daughter-19-born cocaine addicted-healthy-off to college to interpret ASL, Pearl-15-born with 7 street drugs in system, adperger's, BP, (BPD, schizo-affective disorder - these are being ruled out in " favor " of aspergers) - lamictal 200mg, lithium added 5/22/07, increased 6/4/07.Been in RTC for 3 months after 5 weeks of phosp. 3 girls are adopted (2 as infants) bio nieces. Sister-deceased from suicide over 8 years ago-schizophrenic and CD. " When your Heavenly Father looks down from heaven, he doesn't see your successes and failures. What he sees is the beautiful heart of a mother who has laid down her life for her children. And He is pleased with what he sees. " -- Rev. Jim Brashear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Dear Sandie, My daughter is 13 and a half and we have been through similar things. She was on Prozac and Risperdal and did great with those for about a year when she suddenly " flipped " and cut herself with a knife. They have since decided she also has a form of bipolar (rapidly cycling moods)...Risperdal made her gain a lot of weight too. But when they got her off of it, they put her on other medicine with the side effect of losing weight so she is back to her original size. Risperdal also gave her metabolic syndrome, borderline diabetes, and liver problems. It was pretty shocking. She did great for the longest time but when it went bad, it went bad. She was hospitalized for two weeks last fall and it has been a constant battle since then keeping her on an even keel. I know Risperdal and Prozac are great for some kids. They just were a nightmare for her. Our doctor told us that puberty time is " hell time " and that things will not always be this hard, that it will get easier when she gets into her 20s. I tell you that because hopefully it is true for your daughter as well. It is very heartbreaking what they go through and there does not seem to be any good research on girls with autism. (I'm not looking for one study on girls, I would like to see A BUNCH of research on girls). Most research that exists is about boys. I think girls experience many things differently. Most of the time my daughter could care less if she has friends. In a way I hope that will always be true because she does not grieve over those normal things she does not have. She doesn't seem to want or need them. I will be keeping you and your precious daughter in my prayers. Kaye --- pealsmom <pupmc@...> wrote: > I see lots of postings about younger kids. My dd is > 15 - her problems > started inutero as my signature states. > How do you help an adolescent - girl? She also was > on risperdal for a > while and gained 50 pounds. It has not come off so > we have body image > too. > I'm feeling quite lost right now and my heart > continues to bleed for > her. > > Sandie, 54 with ankylosing spondilitis & depression > married to > 10 years. > Mom to: > Daughter-32 - BP-special ed teacher in NH-single, > Son-31-electronics store mgr-married with 3 little > ones from 9 mos to > 6 yrs, > Daughter-19-born cocaine addicted-healthy-off to > college to interpret > ASL, > Pearl-15-born with 7 street drugs in system, > adperger's, BP, (BPD, > schizo-affective disorder - these are being ruled > out in " favor " of > aspergers) - lamictal 200mg, lithium added 5/22/07, > increased > 6/4/07.Been in RTC for 3 months after 5 weeks of > phosp. > 3 girls are adopted (2 as infants) bio nieces. > Sister-deceased from > suicide over 8 years ago-schizophrenic and CD. > " When your Heavenly Father looks down from heaven, > he doesn't see > your successes and failures. What he sees is the > beautiful heart of a > mother who has laid down her life for her children. > And He is > pleased with what he sees. " -- Rev. Jim Brashear > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 What are the most important 2 or 3 things you would like to help her with? Sandy > > I see lots of postings about younger kids. My dd is 15 - her problems > started inutero as my signature states. > How do you help an adolescent - girl? She also was on risperdal for a > while and gained 50 pounds. It has not come off so we have body image > too. > I'm feeling quite lost right now and my heart continues to bleed for > her. > > Sandie, 54 with ankylosing spondilitis & depression married to > 10 years. > Mom to: > Daughter-32 - BP-special ed teacher in NH-single, > Son-31-electronics store mgr-married with 3 little ones from 9 mos to > 6 yrs, > Daughter-19-born cocaine addicted-healthy-off to college to interpret > ASL, > Pearl-15-born with 7 street drugs in system, adperger's, BP, (BPD, > schizo-affective disorder - these are being ruled out in " favor " of > aspergers) - lamictal 200mg, lithium added 5/22/07, increased > 6/4/07.Been in RTC for 3 months after 5 weeks of phosp. > 3 girls are adopted (2 as infants) bio nieces. Sister-deceased from > suicide over 8 years ago-schizophrenic and CD. > " When your Heavenly Father looks down from heaven, he doesn't see > your successes and failures. What he sees is the beautiful heart of a > mother who has laid down her life for her children. And He is > pleased with what he sees. " -- Rev. Jim Brashear > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Kaye, Thank you. I needed to hear from someone exactly like you. Risperdal and prozac were bad for my dd also. So was abilify (got dyskenasia), and geodon. My dd has done self-injurious behavior for about 5 years. She's 15 as of May 30. My dd, unlike yours, wants to have friends. Wants to be " cool " and included. But kids back off from her. Always have. ALWAYS. The bipolar piece does throw a wrench in the mix with asp. I've read that more boys than girls have it. And I, too, want to know about girls. She is in RTC now and it is the best treatment she's had. And their communication with us is wonderful. When she's home on weekends, she's in her own world. Keeps to herself in her room, calls everyone she's ever met looking for conversation, becomes irritable so terribly easy. Doesn't want to do anything and that includes talking to us. Thanks for letting me go on . . . andie, 54 with ankylosing spondilitis & depression married to 10 years. Mom to: Daughter-32 - BP-special ed teacher in NH-single, Son-31-electronics store mgr-married with 3 little ones from 9 mos to 6 yrs, Daughter-19-born cocaine addicted-healthy-off to college to interpret ASL, Pearl-15-born with 7 street drugs in system, BP, recently dx asperger's - lamictal 200mg, lithium added 5/22/07, increased 6/4/07.Been in RTC for 3 months after 5 weeks of phosp. 3 girls are adopted (2 as infants) bio nieces. Sister-deceased from suicide over 8 years ago-schizophrenic and CD. " When your Heavenly Father looks down from heaven, he doesn't see your successes and failures. What he sees is the beautiful heart of a mother who has laid down her life for her children. And He is pleased with what he sees. " -- Rev. Jim Brashear > > Dear Sandie, > > My daughter is 13 and a half and we have been through > similar things. She was on Prozac and Risperdal and > did great with those for about a year when she > suddenly " flipped " and cut herself with a knife. They > have since decided she also has a form of bipolar > (rapidly cycling moods)...Risperdal made her gain a > lot of weight too. But when they got her off of it, > they put her on other medicine with the side effect of > losing weight so she is back to her original size. > Risperdal also gave her metabolic syndrome, borderline > diabetes, and liver problems. It was pretty shocking. > She did great for the longest time but when it went > bad, it went bad. She was hospitalized for two weeks > last fall and it has been a constant battle since then > keeping her on an even keel. I know Risperdal and > Prozac are great for some kids. They just were a > nightmare for her. > > Our doctor told us that puberty time is " hell time " > and that things will not always be this hard, that it > will get easier when she gets into her 20s. I tell > you that because hopefully it is true for your > daughter as well. > > It is very heartbreaking what they go through and > there does not seem to be any good research on girls > with autism. (I'm not looking for one study on girls, > I would like to see A BUNCH of research on girls). > Most research that exists is about boys. I think > girls experience many things differently. Most of the > time my daughter could care less if she has friends. > In a way I hope that will always be true because she > does not grieve over those normal things she does not > have. She doesn't seem to want or need them. > > I will be keeping you and your precious daughter in my > prayers. > > Kaye > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Sandie, I certainly understand your pain. It hurts to see our children struggle. My (adopted as an infant) son is 14 and struggling so. We have many diag. like your dd does. It hurts to see them struggle with everything that goes on in their head. How can they learn? I can't even imagine. No advice.....just understanding from a mom who is in your shoes. mom to Preston with Ice, Service Dog AS,BP,OCD,ADHD,Anxiety,sensory processing that causes hallucinations. originally thought they were from bp then thought schizoaffective. ( ) Adolescents I see lots of postings about younger kids. My dd is 15 - her problems started inutero as my signature states. How do you help an adolescent - girl? She also was on risperdal for a while and gained 50 pounds. It has not come off so we have body image too. I'm feeling quite lost right now and my heart continues to bleed for her.Sandie, 54 with ankylosing spondilitis & depression married to 10 years. Mom to:Daughter-32 - BP-special ed teacher in NH-single, Son-31-electronics store mgr-married with 3 little ones from 9 mos to 6 yrs, Daughter-19-born cocaine addicted-healthy-off to college to interpret ASL, Pearl-15-born with 7 street drugs in system, adperger's, BP, (BPD, schizo-affective disorder - these are being ruled out in "favor" of aspergers) - lamictal 200mg, lithium added 5/22/07, increased 6/4/07.Been in RTC for 3 months after 5 weeks of phosp.3 girls are adopted (2 as infants) bio nieces. Sister-deceased from suicide over 8 years ago-schizophrenic and CD."When your Heavenly Father looks down from heaven, he doesn't see your successes and failures. What he sees is the beautiful heart of a mother who has laid down her life for her children. And He is pleased with what he sees." -- Rev. Jim Brashear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 , Thanks for letting me jump in the adolescent boat of aspergers. The support feels good. I'm not alone!! I'm anxious to learn. Sandie, 54 with ankylosing spondilitis & depression married to 10 years. Mom to:Daughter-32 - BP-special ed teacher in NH-single, Son-31-electronics store mgr-married with 3 little ones from 9 mos to 6 yrs, Daughter-19-born cocaine addicted-healthy-off to college to interpret ASL, Pearl-15-born with 7 street drugs in system, adperger's, BP, (BPD, schizo-affective disorder - these are being ruled out in "favor" of aspergers) - lamictal 200mg, lithium added 5/22/07, increased 6/4/07.Been in RTC for 3 months after 5 weeks of phosp.3 girls are adopted (2 as infants) bio nieces. Sister-deceased from suicide over 8 years ago-schizophrenic and CD."When your Heavenly Father looks down from heaven, he doesn't see your successes and failures. What he sees is the beautiful heart of a mother who has laid down her life for her children. And He is pleased with what he sees." -- Rev. Jim Brashear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Sandie, can your therapist help with the " friends " part? There is a strategy called " circle of friends " where you enlist peers for the purpose of befriending your daughter. They have to be very loving, compassionate kids. They have to understand her disability. They even have to be willing to learn about autism and learn strategies for helping her. It IS possible to find kids like these. You usually need a therapist in the mix guiding and supporting them. But what you do is build a community of friends around your daughter who understand her issues and know they are there for the purpose of befriending her and helping her learn social skills. It can be amazing how wonderful NT kids can be but there has to be some adult help and guidance. The friendships often start out " artificially " but as the NT kids learn to see the good things about the AS kids, the friendships often turn into something real and deep. NT kids learn compassion and unconditional acceptance. It is not just the AS kids who benefit. Kaye --- pealsmom <pupmc@...> wrote: > Kaye, > Thank you. I needed to hear from someone exactly > like you. Risperdal > and prozac were bad for my dd also. So was abilify > (got dyskenasia), > and geodon. My dd has done self-injurious behavior > for about 5 years. > She's 15 as of May 30. My dd, unlike yours, wants to > have friends. > Wants to be " cool " and included. But kids back off > from her. Always > have. ALWAYS. The bipolar piece does throw a wrench > in the mix with > asp. I've read that more boys than girls have it. > And I, too, want to > know about girls. She is in RTC now and it is the > best treatment > she's had. And their communication with us is > wonderful. > When she's home on weekends, she's in her own world. > Keeps to herself > in her room, calls everyone she's ever met looking > for conversation, > becomes irritable so terribly easy. Doesn't want to > do anything and > that includes talking to us. > Thanks for letting me go on . . . > > andie, 54 with ankylosing spondilitis & depression > married to 10 > years. > Mom to: > Daughter-32 - BP-special ed teacher in NH-single, > Son-31-electronics store mgr-married with 3 little > ones from 9 mos to > 6 yrs, > Daughter-19-born cocaine addicted-healthy-off to > college to interpret > ASL, > Pearl-15-born with 7 street drugs in system, BP, > recently dx > asperger's - lamictal 200mg, lithium added 5/22/07, > increased > 6/4/07.Been in RTC for 3 months after 5 weeks of > phosp. > 3 girls are adopted (2 as infants) bio nieces. > Sister-deceased from > suicide over 8 years ago-schizophrenic and CD. > " When your Heavenly Father looks down from heaven, > he doesn't see > your successes and failures. What he sees is the > beautiful heart of a > mother who has laid down her life for her children. > And He is > pleased with what he sees. " -- Rev. Jim Brashear > > > > > > > > > Dear Sandie, > > > > My daughter is 13 and a half and we have been > through > > similar things. She was on Prozac and Risperdal > and > > did great with those for about a year when she > > suddenly " flipped " and cut herself with a knife. > They > > have since decided she also has a form of bipolar > > (rapidly cycling moods)...Risperdal made her gain > a > > lot of weight too. But when they got her off of > it, > > they put her on other medicine with the side > effect of > > losing weight so she is back to her original size. > > > Risperdal also gave her metabolic syndrome, > borderline > > diabetes, and liver problems. It was pretty > shocking. > > She did great for the longest time but when it > went > > bad, it went bad. She was hospitalized for two > weeks > > last fall and it has been a constant battle since > then > > keeping her on an even keel. I know Risperdal and > > Prozac are great for some kids. They just were a > > nightmare for her. > > > > Our doctor told us that puberty time is " hell > time " > > and that things will not always be this hard, that > it > > will get easier when she gets into her 20s. I > tell > > you that because hopefully it is true for your > > daughter as well. > > > > It is very heartbreaking what they go through and > > there does not seem to be any good research on > girls > > with autism. (I'm not looking for one study on > girls, > > I would like to see A BUNCH of research on girls). > > > Most research that exists is about boys. I think > > girls experience many things differently. Most of > the > > time my daughter could care less if she has > friends. > > In a way I hope that will always be true because > she > > does not grieve over those normal things she does > not > > have. She doesn't seem to want or need them. > > > > I will be keeping you and your precious daughter > in my > > prayers. > > > > Kaye > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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