Re: What makes an educator highly effective?

[Guest guest]

Love to help !!

Listen to the parents, they may not have your degree, but they know

their kids!!

Treat the kids as special, very hard on eveyone when you have a

teacher think your kid is a BRAT because they don't listen, can't sit

still, etc. instead of understanding that they have special needs.

Treat the kids as individuals with individual needs, there is no one

size fits all.

Thanks for asking

Sandy

>

> hello everyone,

> I am currently going to school for my bachelors degree to become a

> special education teacher. One of my assignments for my summer

course

> is to find out from parents and families of those with special

> needs..what makes an educator highly effective? any advise and

> experiences would be so helpful! thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

if you are prepared to get on the floor and really play with our special kids

and be able to flap

and spin or behave like a special child would without any embarrassment what so

ever you will be a

agood teacher

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For me, my first request from an educator is that they be cooperative

in collaborating with and listening to parents. Educating our children

is only part of the job. Without listening to parents and getting to

know our children, the rest won't work. Compassion, open-mindedness and

being willing to concede that the parents know their children best and

you will do yourself a favor by paying attention to each child's

individuality and keeping it in mind.

IMO, you can be great at academics, but if you don't work with us, and

with my child (in other words, pursuing your own agenda without

finetuning it), you won't really get anywhere.

Hope that helps...

dswann2 wrote:

hello everyone,

I am currently going to school for my bachelors degree to become a

special education teacher. One of my assignments for my summer course

is to find out from parents and families of those with special

needs..what makes an educator highly effective? any advise and

experiences would be so helpful! thanks!

[Guest guest]

Hi. I'm going for SpEd, too. Yay!!! I'd say,,,,that knowing that each GREAT teacher my son with AS has had,,,,has treated him as their own - even though he's a bit "weird" sometimes. They've welcomed my emails,,,,they've asked in advance for me to be open with them on what I want. They've accepted the fact that half the time I have to bring him in late because of breakdowns at home,,,,that it's part of HIM,,,,,,,,,,not that I suck...ha ha. They've waited patiently and knowingly as I cried when I've been called in to try to calm him down. They've even hugged me. Again,,,,I think the best teacher is the one who honestly treats the kids as their own.They wouldn't want a teacher who ignored THEIR child. They wouldn't want a teacher who made "un-noticeable" comments or looks at THEIR child. They would hope that THEIR child had a teacher who could understand

that some kids should be paired up with others as to help them become involved...............not just let them stand alone. The best teacher would NEVER have kids choose teams........NEVER. The best teacher would realize that lots of kids work better when standing or even walking around and that MAYBE,,,,,just maybe,,,,,,,,movement could be incorporated into the classroom. Oh boy,,,,I'm on a roll. I could go on and on........and on and on. Good luck. Robindswann2 <dswann2@...> wrote: hello everyone,I am currently going to school for my bachelors degree to become aspecial education teacher. One of my assignments for my summer courseis to find out from parents and families of those with specialneeds..what makes an educator highly effective? any advise andexperiences would be so helpful! thanks!

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Yeah, Robin, keep on going. You have no idea what a

big smile you are bringing to my face!!! (I'm

giving you an A+ for your answers showing you so

completely GET IT!!!)

Kaye

ps B.A. psychology

M.A. special ed emphasis autism

Music teacher and kindergarten teacher for 12 years

until God gave me Karissa and changed my direction in

life. In my 5th year of teaching primary special

ed.

--- and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...> wrote:

> Hi.

> I'm going for SpEd, too. Yay!!!

> I'd say,,,,that knowing that each GREAT teacher my

> son with AS has had,,,,has treated him as their own

> - even though he's a bit " weird " sometimes.

> They've welcomed my emails,,,,they've asked in

> advance for me to be open with them on what I want.

> They've accepted the fact that half the time I have

> to bring him in late because of breakdowns at

> home,,,,that it's part of HIM,,,,,,,,,,not that I

> suck...ha ha.

> They've waited patiently and knowingly as I cried

> when I've been called in to try to calm him down.

> They've even hugged me.

> Again,,,,I think the best teacher is the one who

> honestly treats the kids as their own.

> They wouldn't want a teacher who ignored THEIR

> child. They wouldn't want a teacher who made

> " un-noticeable " comments or looks at THEIR child.

> They would hope that THEIR child had a teacher who

> could understand that some kids should be paired up

> with others as to help them become

> involved...............not just let them stand

> alone.

> The best teacher would NEVER have kids choose

> teams........NEVER.

> The best teacher would realize that lots of kids

> work better when standing or even walking around and

> that MAYBE,,,,,just maybe,,,,,,,,movement could be

> incorporated into the classroom.

> Oh boy,,,,I'm on a roll.

> I could go on and on........and on and on.

> Good luck.

> Robin

> dswann2 <dswann2@...> wrote:

> hello everyone,

> I am currently going to school for my bachelors

> degree to become a

> special education teacher. One of my assignments for

> my summer course

> is to find out from parents and families of those

> with special

> needs..what makes an educator highly effective? any

> advise and

> experiences would be so helpful! thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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Be

honest – no one can possibly have the answers to all situations

Build a relationship –

most importantly with the child, but also with the parent.

Accept help –

teams always get better results than going it alone.

Tonya

( ) What

makes an educator highly effective?

hello everyone,

I am currently going to school for my bachelors degree to become a

special education teacher. One of my assignments for my summer course

is to find out from parents and families of those with special

needs..what makes an educator highly effective? any advise and

experiences would be so helpful! thanks!

[Guest guest]

Be willing to be flexible to try new, and maybe unconventional,

ideas. For example, in " circle " time, my child could not keep his

hands to himself. They put him in a small chair instead of on the

floor with the other kids. Helped some, but he moved the chair

around. So they tried a small rocking chair - worked great, but they

just had to make sure he didn't rock over anyone's fingers.

My child's teacher also emailed me or told me if she was going to be

out (if she knew) so that I could " prep " my child for a sub - so that

he wasn't surprised when he walked in the door.

Just little things that might take an extra minute or two.

Stop and think - if this were my child, how would I want my child's

teacher to react/respond to a certain problem/issue?

>

> hello everyone,

> I am currently going to school for my bachelors degree to become a

> special education teacher. One of my assignments for my summer course

> is to find out from parents and families of those with special

> needs..what makes an educator highly effective? any advise and

> experiences would be so helpful! thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I would have to say that one thing that astounded me was how little a lot of the teachers my son had knew about autism and these were special education teachers. So, I would say if you know you are getting a child with autism in your classroom please educate yourself about it. Listen to the parents they know their child and have their best interests at heart more than anyone on the team. Also, just because something doesn't work one time with the child be willing to try it again and don't just give up. I can't say enough about communication this is vital please tell me how my child is doing and not just the negative things. Also, keep in mind that every child is different even if they have the same disorder so what may work with one child may not with another. These all come from my own personal experiences down this path. Becky dswann2 <dswann2@...> wrote: hello everyone,I am currently going to school for my bachelors degree to become aspecial education teacher. One of my assignments for my summer courseis to find out from parents and families of those with specialneeds..what makes an educator highly effective? any advise andexperiences would be so helpful! thanks!

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<<Be willing to be flexible to try new, and maybe unconventional,

ideas. For example, in " circle " time, my child could not keep his

hands to himself. They put him in a small chair instead of on the

floor with the other kids. Helped some, but he moved the chair

around. So they tried a small rocking chair - worked great, but they

just had to make sure he didn't rock over anyone's fingers.

My child's teacher also emailed me or told me if she was going to be

out (if she knew) so that I could " prep " my child for a sub - so that

he wasn't surprised when he walked in the door. >>

My son's teacher has been very accommodating this year. He tells me

he's read every word of my <can't even count--*well* over a hundred>

emails. He has taken my suggestions and thanked me for my help at

home. After my request, he not only tells me in advance of known

subs, I know what he writes the sub about my son for them. That

would be important since my son ensures fairness by pushing unfair

people. He has met with me numerous times in addition to the 8 IEP

meetings this year. At one particularly difficult meeting (not

because of strained school-parent relationships, just because of the

situation), he told me I looked like I needed a hug, that I looked

very stressed out. Well, he had that right. He has come up with

some unique ideas to address a few problems, too.

In the end, we put my son on homebound for the last month of school

due to his pushing and physical contact issues. We are changing

meds, and it's best for everyone that he is at home. He has gone to

school for an hour after-school 6 times. We have been at school

events and a field trip since I would be at those anyway. (And no

problems!) The last day of school is next Thursday, so I need to

start working on the teachers' year-end appreciation letters pretty

soon!

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kaye!! I love how you said, "until God gave you Karissa". I had been going for Soc Work/Psychology on and off for years and then when Ian was dx'd,,,,,,that's when it all changed for me. Dealing with the "good ones" made me want to be one. Dealing with the "bad ones" made me want to take their job..........ha ha. I honestly think the best SpEd teachers out there are the ones who have "lived it" first. (I gotta be careful - I don't want to insult anyone out there who is a SpEd teacher or is going to be one,,,,,,,,,,,,)....but I think that if all a person does are the "requirements" for the degree,,,,they aren't gonna "FEEL" it. And there are certain professions that you honestly have to "FEEL". I'm now stepping down from my soapbox..........ha ha. *** I can't wait to someday actually "be in a school". The range of emotions that

I (as well as every parent) have felt when dealing with his teachers since his dx,,,,,,,,,have been shock and denial. Being insulted by the "bluntness" of his issues.....the humiliation that you feel when someone actually "sees" how your child really is....... The joy and pride of hearing that "Ian" had a great day and that they love it when he smiles. The embarrassment you feel when you are in tears....or all-out crying (that's usually me) when discussing your child as well as "you" with teachers.......even when they understand - and in all honesty,,,,,,if they weren't so nice, it would have been easier for me to keep my composure. ha ha. I've also felt that maybe, just maybe, what I was feeling was a breakdown. That, after I had met with a teacher, etc, and was now sobbing in my car, that maybe it would never get better. That, maybe, my 10 yr old was never gonna be "better" or for God's sake,,,,never "bad

enough" to be accepted as "someone who needs a little extra understanding" and NOT an out-of-control spaz. So,,,,,,Like I said,,,,I can't wait to be the teacher and friend to someone else who at one of the many challenging moments they will encounter,,,,,,,,,will be able to say that I kind of understand because ....blah blah........... To know that you're not alone is an incredible feeling. We are all adults,,,,and we all know that we are the ones who have to make the ultimate med's decisions,,,,,,therapy decisions,,,,doctor decisions,,,,,,,,trial meds/therapy's decisions,,,,,,education decisions,,,,,,,,,we know that. But,,,,,,,,when you know that you are NOT alone,,,,,,,God,,,,,that's it. It really is. I don't think I've experienced worse moments with others than when they WON'T see what we're going through. When they can't see that I'm not bad. That my son isn't bad. That hurts the

worst, I think. Ok - that's it. I gotta stop. My kids are begging for a malt............sounds pretty darned good. Robin Kaye Bates <kcbates2003@...> wrote: Yeah, Robin, keep on going. You have no idea what abig smile you are bringing to my face!!! (I'mgiving you an A+ for your answers showing you socompletely GET IT!!!)Kayeps B.A. psychologyM.A. special ed emphasis autismMusic teacher and kindergarten

teacher for 12 yearsuntil God gave me Karissa and changed my direction inlife. In my 5th year of teaching primary specialed. --- and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs > wrote:> Hi.> I'm going for SpEd, too. Yay!!!> I'd say,,,,that knowing that each GREAT teacher my> son with AS has had,,,,has treated him as their own> - even though he's a bit "weird" sometimes. > They've welcomed my emails,,,,they've asked in> advance for me to be open with them on what I want. > They've accepted the fact that half the time I have> to bring him in late because of breakdowns at> home,,,,that it's part of HIM,,,,,,,,,,not that I> suck...ha ha.> They've waited patiently and knowingly as I cried> when I've been called in to try to calm him down. > They've even hugged me.> Again,,,,I think the best

teacher is the one who> honestly treats the kids as their own.> They wouldn't want a teacher who ignored THEIR> child. They wouldn't want a teacher who made> "un-noticeable" comments or looks at THEIR child. > They would hope that THEIR child had a teacher who> could understand that some kids should be paired up> with others as to help them become> involved...............not just let them stand> alone.> The best teacher would NEVER have kids choose> teams........NEVER.> The best teacher would realize that lots of kids> work better when standing or even walking around and> that MAYBE,,,,,just maybe,,,,,,,,movement could be> incorporated into the classroom.> Oh boy,,,,I'm on a roll.> I could go on and on........and on and on.> Good luck.> Robin> dswann2 <dswann2 > wrote:> hello everyone,> I am currently going to school for my bachelors> degree to become a> special education teacher. One of my assignments for> my summer course> is to find out from parents and families of those> with special> needs..what makes an educator highly effective? any> advise and> experiences would be so helpful! thanks!> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> TV dinner still cooling?> Check out "Tonight's Picks" on TV.__________________________________________________________Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.http://smallbusiness./webhosting

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Dear Robin,

I have experienced everything you talk about. It does

feel good to talk to somebody who understands. And

sorry, professionals who have not lived this life are

never going to get it the way that parents do. I do

believe that having lived with a child like this and

having LOVED the child does make me a better teacher.

I have had so many struggles with Karissa's teachers

this year (two very young new teachers who have no

kids at all, let alone a special kid).

There are many things you can never learn

academically. You do have to learn them with your

heart. And if you do learn it, it makes you a much

more compassionate person. I carry that with me every

day at work. How can people be so impatient and

unkind to these children? We have never walked in

their shoes and we do not get it when it comes to

knowing how it feels to be them. The least we can do

is simply BE NICE TO THEM!!!! Why is this so hard for

some teachers to understand????

I used to try to justify myself and I definitely have

spent way too many hours this year trying to get her

teachers to understand Karissa. I am at the point now

of almost being just very hardnosed. If you do not

" get it " and are not at all teachable, I am not

allowing you access to my child. People like that

have done damage to her that is very hard to undo. I

am done " being nice " while my kid is hurt. If they

don't get it I have started turning it around on them.

They sent me a paper before her IEP. It had mainly

stuff they wanted to ask about Karissa but instead I

listed my concerns with them. Such as, I wish you

would get training in the district endorsed math

program that Karissa loves. (I provided all materials

for her, they were too dumb to implement it and it was

way simple--Math-U-See, for people who know it). I

wish that you would get trained in autism. I wish

that you would understand that all autistic children

are different and not generalize or stereotype. I

wish that you would understand that these things she

does, she does because SHE IS AUTISTIC. Like DUH.

I am out of patience with them but have been buying

materials for next year on Ebay so that I can

homeschool Karissa. I have officially FIRED THEM

(although I am not letting them know that, let them

spin in the wind all summer trying to figure out how

they are going to educate her and keep me from suing

them, aren't I mean????)

Blessings to you Robin and our profession will only be

enriched by people like you coming on board.

Kaye

--- and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...> wrote:

> Thanks Kaye!!

> I love how you said, " until God gave you Karissa " .

> I had been going for Soc Work/Psychology on and

> off for years and then when Ian was dx'd,,,,,,that's

> when it all changed for me.

> Dealing with the " good ones " made me want to be

> one.

> Dealing with the " bad ones " made me want to take

> their job..........ha ha.

> I honestly think the best SpEd teachers out there

> are the ones who have " lived it " first.

> (I gotta be careful - I don't want to insult

> anyone out there who is a SpEd teacher or is going

> to be one,,,,,,,,,,,,)....but I think that if all a

> person does are the " requirements " for the

> degree,,,,they aren't gonna " FEEL " it. And there

> are certain professions that you honestly have to

> " FEEL " .

> I'm now stepping down from my soapbox..........ha

> ha.

> ***

> I can't wait to someday actually " be in a school " .

> The range of emotions that I (as well as every

> parent) have felt when dealing with his teachers

> since his dx,,,,,,,,,have been shock and denial.

> Being insulted by the " bluntness " of his

> issues.....the humiliation that you feel when

> someone actually " sees " how your child really

> is.......

> The joy and pride of hearing that " Ian " had a

> great day and that they love it when he smiles.

> The embarrassment you feel when you are in

> tears....or all-out crying (that's usually me) when

> discussing your child as well as " you " with

> teachers.......even when they understand - and in

> all honesty,,,,,,if they weren't so nice, it would

> have been easier for me to keep my composure. ha

> ha.

> I've also felt that maybe, just maybe, what I was

> feeling was a breakdown. That, after I had met with

> a teacher, etc, and was now sobbing in my car, that

> maybe it would never get better. That, maybe, my 10

> yr old was never gonna be " better " or for God's

> sake,,,,never " bad enough " to be accepted as

> " someone who needs a little extra understanding " and

> NOT an out-of-control spaz.

> So,,,,,,Like I said,,,,I can't wait to be the

> teacher and friend to someone else who at one of the

> many challenging moments they will

> encounter,,,,,,,,,will be able to say that I kind of

> understand because ....blah blah...........

> To know that you're not alone is an incredible

> feeling. We are all adults,,,,and we all know that

> we are the ones who have to make the ultimate med's

> decisions,,,,,,therapy decisions,,,,doctor

> decisions,,,,,,,,trial meds/therapy's

> decisions,,,,,,education decisions,,,,,,,,,we know

> that.

> But,,,,,,,,when you know that you are NOT

> alone,,,,,,,God,,,,,that's it. It really is.

> I don't think I've experienced worse moments with

> others than when they WON'T see what we're going

> through. When they can't see that I'm not bad.

> That my son isn't bad.

> That hurts the worst, I think.

> Ok - that's it. I gotta stop.

> My kids are begging for a malt............sounds

> pretty darned good.

> Robin

>

>

>

> Kaye Bates <kcbates2003@...> wrote:

> Yeah, Robin, keep on going. You have no

> idea what a

> big smile you are bringing to my face!!! (I'm

> giving you an A+ for your answers showing you so

> completely GET IT!!!)

>

> Kaye

> ps B.A. psychology

> M.A. special ed emphasis autism

>

> Music teacher and kindergarten teacher for 12 years

> until God gave me Karissa and changed my direction

> in

> life. In my 5th year of teaching primary special

> ed.

>

> --- and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Hi.

> > I'm going for SpEd, too. Yay!!!

> > I'd say,,,,that knowing that each GREAT teacher my

> > son with AS has had,,,,has treated him as their

> own

> > - even though he's a bit " weird " sometimes.

> > They've welcomed my emails,,,,they've asked in

> > advance for me to be open with them on what I

> want.

> > They've accepted the fact that half the time I

> have

> > to bring him in late because of breakdowns at

> > home,,,,that it's part of HIM,,,,,,,,,,not that I

> > suck...ha ha.

> > They've waited patiently and knowingly as I cried

> > when I've been called in to try to calm him down.

> > They've even hugged me.

> > Again,,,,I think the best teacher is the one who

> > honestly treats the kids as their own.

> > They wouldn't want a teacher who ignored THEIR

> > child. They wouldn't want a teacher who made

> > " un-noticeable " comments or looks at THEIR child.

> > They would hope that THEIR child had a teacher who

> > could understand that some kids should be paired

> up

> > with others as to help them become

> > involved...............not just let them stand

> > alone.

> > The best teacher would NEVER have kids choose

> > teams........NEVER.

> > The best teacher would realize that lots of kids

> > work better when standing or even walking around

> and

> > that MAYBE,,,,,just maybe,,,,,,,,movement could be

> > incorporated into the classroom.

> > Oh boy,,,,I'm on a roll.

> > I could go on and on........and on and on.

> > Good luck.

> > Robin

> > dswann2 <dswann2@...> wrote:

> > hello everyone,

> > I am currently going to school for my bachelors

> > degree to become a

> > special education teacher. One of my assignments

> for

> > my summer course

> > is to find out from parents and families of those

> > with special

> > needs..what makes an educator highly effective?

> any

> > advise and

> > experiences would be so helpful! thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV.

>

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Hi All!

I have a 9 year old with AS. I have been a special ed. teacher since

long before he was born. My district, even though it is large, has

just begun to specialize for kids with autism. I can honestly say

that I am a much better teacher now that I have a child with AS. In

fact, I had a child in my class with autism/aspergers this year and

we had some very difficult moments! But because of my own

experience, I know that I understood my student and how to help him

because I have been in the " trenches. " I let his mom know that I

have a child with AS and offered her ideas that have worked for me.

We all know how good it feels to know that we are not alone, as

someone has already stated!!

Take care,

Rada

> > hello everyone,

> > I am currently going to school for my bachelors

> > degree to become a

> > special education teacher. One of my assignments for

> > my summer course

> > is to find out from parents and families of those

> > with special

> > needs..what makes an educator highly effective? any

> > advise and

> > experiences would be so helpful! thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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That's awesome, Rada. We never know when we really may be saving someone...ya know? I don't mean in a "almighty" sense. I mean in a "when you're at the end of your rope" sense. Knowing people understand is everything. Good for you. I bet you're an amazing teacher. Robinwolfmom65 <wolfmom65@...> wrote: Hi All!I have a 9 year old with AS. I have been a special ed. teacher since long before he was born. My district, even though it

is large, has just begun to specialize for kids with autism. I can honestly say that I am a much better teacher now that I have a child with AS. In fact, I had a child in my class with autism/aspergers this year and we had some very difficult moments! But because of my own experience, I know that I understood my student and how to help him because I have been in the "trenches." I let his mom know that I have a child with AS and offered her ideas that have worked for me. We all know how good it feels to know that we are not alone, as someone has already stated!!Take care,Rada> > hello everyone,> > I am currently going to school for my bachelors> > degree to become a> > special education teacher. One of my assignments for> > my summer course> > is to find out from parents and families of those> > with special> > needs..what makes an educator highly effective? any>

> advise and> > experiences would be so helpful! thanks!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > TV dinner still cooling?> > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on TV.> > __________________________________________________________Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.> http://smallbusiness./webhosting > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.>

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Thank you everyone for your responses. they honestly mean so much and

i will carry your advise with me into the field. i knew i wanted to be

in sped when i was doing student teaching in my elementary education

major. they placed me in a preschool that had both special needs

students and typically developing. I spent a whole semester with that

class and loved every minute. The DAY i got placed into a " regular " ed

classroom, i knew it didnt feel right and I switched my major to

special ed! and i have a real passion for students with autism. i got

to pick a student in my preschool and do observation on him every day,

and my student had autism. its so fascinating to me!

> > > hello everyone,

> > > I am currently going to school for my bachelors

> > > degree to become a

> > > special education teacher. One of my assignments for

> > > my summer course

> > > is to find out from parents and families of those

> > > with special

> > > needs..what makes an educator highly effective? any

> > > advise and

> > > experiences would be so helpful! thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

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