Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 From: CyberMommyLJA@... Date: 2007/05/24 Thu AM 06:47:47 CDT Subject: ( ) Letter from school I feel your pain I found out too late that my daughter could have been placed in a language based class that had teacher aides, but she didn't " qualify " due to her intelligence. Well, she couldn't write a sentence to save her life. They put her in a traditional class with no teacher aide. Here it is, Memorial Day and I have been asking for help since Veteran's Day, and this is what I get from the director of special services: " " " I will try to give you this answer sometime early next week. First an identification meeting has to be held which is not a complicated process but I need to know who will hold that meeting. Next I will look to find a team to begin testing since this issue has become a priority. </FONT><FONT COLOR= " #000000 " BACK= " #ffffff " style= " BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff; " SIZE= " 3 " PTSIZE= " 12 " FAMILY= " SANSSERIF " FACE= " Arial " LANG= " 0 " > Thank you for your patience. " " " Hellllloooooooooo....where has everyone been since November, when I was told that " intelligent children are not eligible for services " and I decided to fight this? I've run out of patience, this is ridiculous and a disgrace, and you know what, no one seems to care about anything except money. Disgusted and stressed in NJ, Barbara " We learned more from a three minute record baby than we ever learned in school " Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender " I must have walked ten million miles Must have walked ten million miles Wore some shoes that weren't my style Fell into the rank and file So just say I was here a while A fool in search of your sweet smile Ten million miles " ~Patty ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 due process anyone??? Neylon <Lindee37@...> wrote: From: CyberMommyLJAcsDate: 2007/05/24 Thu AM 06:47:47 CDT Subject: ( ) Letter from schoolI feel your pain I found out too late that my daughter could have been placed in a language based class that had teacher aides, but she didn't "qualify" due to her intelligence. Well, she couldn't write a sentence to save her life. They put her in a traditional class with no teacher aide.Here it is, Memorial Day and I have been asking for help since Veteran's Day, and this is what I get from the director of special services:"""I will try to give you this answer sometime early next week. First an identification meeting has to be held which is not a complicated process but I need to know who will hold that meeting. Next I will look to find a team to begin testing since this issue has become a priority. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff;" SIZE="3" PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Thank you for your patience."""Hellllloooooooooo....where has everyone been since November, when I was told that "intelligent children are not eligible for services" and I decided to fight this?I've run out of patience, this is ridiculous and a disgrace, and you know what, no one seems to care about anything except money.Disgusted and stressed in NJ,Barbara"We learned more from a three minute record baby than we ever learned in school"Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender "I must have walked ten million milesMust have walked ten million milesWore some shoes that weren't my styleFell into the rank and fileSo just say I was here a whileA fool in search of your sweet smileTen million miles"~Patty ~ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Intelligence has nothing to do with whether or not a child gets services. Services are based on need. My son is plenty bright, but had a written language disability, a pragmatic language disability, and small and large motor disabilities. He qualified for services based on that. I, too was told by the school system where we first lived that he was not eligible for services because he was not in the bottom 5 percent of the class. It's so too bad I didn't know then what I know now. I would have enjoyed taking their sorry a$$es to due process. grr.LizOn May 24, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Neylon wrote:From: CyberMommyLJAcsDate: 2007/05/24 Thu AM 06:47:47 CDT Subject: ( ) Letter from schoolI feel your pain I found out too late that my daughter could have been placed in a language based class that had teacher aides, but she didn't "qualify" due to her intelligence. Well, she couldn't write a sentence to save her life. They put her in a traditional class with no teacher aide.Here it is, Memorial Day and I have been asking for help since Veteran's Day, and this is what I get from the director of special services:"""I will try to give you this answer sometime early next week. First an identification meeting has to be held which is not a complicated process but I need to know who will hold that meeting. Next I will look to find a team to begin testing since this issue has become a priority. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff;" SIZE="3" PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Thank you for your patience."""Hellllloooooooooo....where has everyone been since November, when I was told that "intelligent children are not eligible for services" and I decided to fight this?I've run out of patience, this is ridiculous and a disgrace, and you know what, no one seems to care about anything except money.Disgusted and stressed in NJ,Barbara"We learned more from a three minute record baby than we ever learned in school"Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender "I must have walked ten million milesMust have walked ten million milesWore some shoes that weren't my styleFell into the rank and fileSo just say I was here a whileA fool in search of your sweet smileTen million miles"~Patty ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 In writing formally request an IEP evaluation from the school. They have to call a meeting within 60? Days, then they have to complete an evaluation within 60 days. Not sure if I have the number of days correct for the first, but, in Illinois at least, you have to complete the evaluation in 60 days. Sandy > > From: CyberMommyLJA@... > Date: 2007/05/24 Thu AM 06:47:47 CDT > > Subject: ( ) Letter from school > > I feel your pain I found out too late that my daughter could have been placed in a language based class that had teacher aides, but she didn't " qualify " due to her intelligence. Well, she couldn't write a sentence to save her life. They put her in a traditional class with no teacher aide. > > > > Here it is, Memorial Day and I have been asking for help since Veteran's Day, and this is what I get from the director of special services: > > " " " I will try to give you this answer sometime early next week. First an identification meeting has to be held which is not a complicated process but I need to know who will hold that meeting. Next I will look to find a team to begin testing since this issue has become a priority. </FONT><FONT COLOR= " #000000 " BACK= " #ffffff " style= " BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff; " SIZE= " 3 " PTSIZE= " 12 " FAMILY= " SANSSERIF " FACE= " Arial " LANG= " 0 " > > Thank you for your patience. > " " " > > Hellllloooooooooo....where has everyone been since November, when I was told that " intelligent children are not eligible for services " and I decided to fight this? > > I've run out of patience, this is ridiculous and a disgrace, and you know what, no one seems to care about anything except money. > > Disgusted and stressed in NJ, > Barbara > > > > " We learned more from a three minute record baby than we ever learned in school " > Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender > > > " I must have walked ten million miles > Must have walked ten million miles > Wore some shoes that weren't my style > Fell into the rank and file > So just say I was here a while > A fool in search of your sweet smile > Ten million miles " > ~Patty ~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 I would write a letter documenting that you have requested an evaluation last November and that the guidelines state that they have 60 days to do an evaluation. You will then say that you expect this will now be expedited since there has been such a delay. RoxannaAutism Happens ( ) Letter from school Here it is, Memorial Day and I have been asking for help since Veteran's Day, and this is what I get from the director of special services:"""I will try to give you this answer sometime early next week. First an identification meeting has to be held which is not a complicated process but I need to know who will hold that meeting. Next I will look to find a team to begin testing since this issue has become a priority. Thank you for your patience."""Hellllloooooooooo....where has everyone been since November, when I was told that "intelligent children are not eligible for services" and I decided to fight this?I've run out of patience, this is ridiculous and a disgrace, and you know what, no one seems to care about anything except money.Disgusted and stressed in NJ,Barbara"We learned more from a three minute record baby than we ever learned in school"Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 A lot of our kids are too smart for special ed, but not socially approprite for regular ed. Remember that your child has a RIGHT to an eduation. If they can not provide it, they need to find placement that can. They will let time pass and your child will suffer. Be pushy!CyberMommyLJA@... wrote: Here it is, Memorial Day and I have been asking for help since Veteran's Day, and this is what I get from the director of special services:"""I will try to give you this answer sometime early next week. First an identification meeting has to be held which is not a complicated process but I need to know who will hold that meeting. Next I will look to find a team to begin testing since this issue has become a priority. Thank you for your patience."""Hellllloooooooooo....where has everyone been since November, when I was told that "intelligent children are not eligible for services" and I decided to fight this?I've run out of patience, this is ridiculous and a disgrace, and you know what, no one seems to care about anything except money.Disgusted and stressed in NJ,Barbara"We learned more from a three minute record baby than we ever learned in school"Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Special ed is a different way of teaching kids, it is not meant just for low functioning kids. In our state, gifted education also falls under special ed as that is how they get their funding. Special ed means, kids are taught in small groups if that is what they need, they are taught in different ways if that is what they need. Nobody should be thinking that special ed is for the " stupid kids " . I guess because I am a special ed teacher I am a little bit sensitive to that issue. It's kind of funny, my daughter Karissa tends to look down her nose at the " general ed " kids. They are just not SPECIAL like she is!!!! ha!!! Kaye --- Haskin <babydoll_haskin@...> wrote: > A lot of our kids are too smart for special ed, but > not socially approprite for regular ed. Remember > that your child has a RIGHT to an eduation. If they > can not provide it, they need to find placement that > can. They will let time pass and your child will > suffer. Be pushy! > > CyberMommyLJA@... wrote: Here it is, > Memorial Day and I have been asking for help since > Veteran's Day, and this is what I get from the > director of special services: > > " " " I will try to give you this answer sometime early > next week. First an identification meeting has to be > held which is not a complicated process but I need > to know who will hold that meeting. Next I will look > to find a team to begin testing since this issue has > become a priority. > Thank you for your patience. > " " " > > Hellllloooooooooo....where has everyone been since > November, when I was told that " intelligent children > are not eligible for services " and I decided to > fight this? > > I've run out of patience, this is ridiculous and a > disgrace, and you know what, no one seems to care > about anything except money. > > Disgusted and stressed in NJ, > Barbara > > > > " We learned more from a three minute record baby > than we ever learned in school " > Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender > > > > > --------------------------------- > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search./shortcuts/#news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 On Jan 27, 2:54pm, Kaye Bates wrote: } It's kind of funny, my daughter Karissa tends to look } down her nose at the " general ed " kids. They are just } not SPECIAL like she is!!!! ha!!! Heh. Long may that trick work. ;-) I hope our special ed will be able to handle both aspects of my son, since he is not only autistic but quite intellectually gifted. Willa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Willa, does your district have any " twice-exceptional " programs? These are special programs for gifted children who also have a disability. They are an excellent fit for many high functioning autism kids. Kaye --- Willa Hunt <willaful@...> wrote: > On Jan 27, 2:54pm, Kaye Bates wrote: > } It's kind of funny, my daughter Karissa tends to > look > } down her nose at the " general ed " kids. They are > just > } not SPECIAL like she is!!!! ha!!! > > Heh. Long may that trick work. ;-) > > I hope our special ed will be able to handle both > aspects > of my son, since he is not only autistic but quite > intellectually gifted. > > Willa > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 On Jan 30, 1:33am, Kaye Bates wrote: } } Willa, does your district have any " twice-exceptional " } programs? These are special programs for gifted } children who also have a disability. They are an } excellent fit for many high functioning autism kids. Not that anyone has told me about. Several people who have worked with him have suggested he should be in a GATE program (gifted and talented) - but we don't have one. Grrr. Willa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 " Twice exceptional " programs accomodate a child's disability AND giftedness, I think GATE programs just deal with giftedness. Kaye --- Willa Hunt <willaful@...> wrote: > On Jan 30, 1:33am, Kaye Bates wrote: > } > } Willa, does your district have any > " twice-exceptional " > } programs? These are special programs for gifted > } children who also have a disability. They are an > } excellent fit for many high functioning autism > kids. > > Not that anyone has told me about. Several people > who > have worked with him have suggested he should be in > a > GATE program (gifted and talented) - but we don't > have > one. Grrr. > > Willa > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 On Jan 31, 1:16am, Kaye Bates wrote: } " Twice exceptional " programs accomodate a child's } disability AND giftedness, I think GATE programs just } deal with giftedness. Alas, as far as I know, we don't have either. Willa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 In a message dated 5/26/2007 10:07:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, madideas@... writes: I would write a letter documenting that you have requested an evaluation last November and that the guidelines state that they have 60 days to do an evaluation. You will then say that you expect this will now be expedited since there has been such a delay. Apparently the letter campaign to virtually everyone in the great state of New Jersey worked, since I got a very apologetic call a few days ago asking when I could attend an eval meeting, "and we'll even waive the 15 day waiting period for you" from initial notification until the actual meeting. Of course all this is much too late since school ends next week so basically this entire year has been one huge waste of time, energy and resources for me. Thursday night is our local Board of Ed meeting and citizens are allowed to speak for five minutes. I have the speech ready to go, I hate speaking in public but I do want the board to know just how I feel and how my children, and others, are being screwed over. Barbara "We learned more from a three minute record baby than we ever learned in school" Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I've never heard of a place that had 2e programs in regular schools. Usually, they have gifted pull outs or gifted programming and the child with disabilities has to try to fit in that program. Does anyone have a school system that has a 2e program? RoxannaAutism Happens Re: ( ) Letter from school On Jan 31, 1:16am, Kaye Bates wrote:} "Twice exceptional" programs accomodate a child's} disability AND giftedness, I think GATE programs just} deal with giftedness. Alas, as far as I know, we don't have either.Willa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Our school system has twice exceptional programs. They are not in all public schools but they are in regular public schools (at elementary, middle, and high school levels). I live in Albuquerque, the person who started the " twice exceptional " programs was one of my teachers at UNM, Dr. Nielsen. Kaye --- Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote: > I've never heard of a place that had 2e programs in > regular schools. Usually, they have gifted pull > outs or gifted programming and the child with > disabilities has to try to fit in that program. > Does anyone have a school system that has a 2e > program? > > Roxanna > Autism Happens > Re: ( ) Letter from school > > > On Jan 31, 1:16am, Kaye Bates wrote: > > } " Twice exceptional " programs accomodate a > child's > } disability AND giftedness, I think GATE programs > just > } deal with giftedness. > > Alas, as far as I know, we don't have either. > > Willa > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Barbara. You are going to be wonderful at the meeting. Say what you need to say and don't hold back your anger, sadness and even confusion about the whole mess. I can't wait to hear about it. You're a great mom AND advocate for all ASD kids. RobinCyberMommyLJA@... wrote: In a message dated 5/26/2007 10:07:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, madideaszoominternet (DOT) net writes: I would write a letter documenting that you have requested an evaluation last November and that the guidelines state that they have 60 days to do an evaluation. You will then say that you expect this will now be expedited since there has been such a delay. Apparently the letter campaign to virtually everyone in the great state of New Jersey worked, since I got a very apologetic call a few days ago asking when I could attend an eval meeting, "and we'll even waive the 15 day waiting period for you" from initial notification until the actual meeting. Of course all this is much too late since school ends next week so basically this entire year has been one huge waste of time, energy and resources for me.Thursday night is our local Board of Ed meeting and citizens are allowed to speak for five minutes. I have the speech ready to go, I hate speaking in public but I do want the board to know just how I feel and how my children, and others, are being screwed over.Barbara"We learned more from a three minute record baby than we ever learned in school"Bruce Springsteen, No Surrender No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 I did not think they were that common. I only wish they had one of those here! RoxannaAutism Happens Re: ( ) Letter from school> > > On Jan 31, 1:16am, Kaye Bates wrote:> > } "Twice exceptional" programs accomodate a> child's> } disability AND giftedness, I think GATE programs> just> } deal with giftedness. > > Alas, as far as I know, we don't have either.> > Willa> > > __________________________________________________________Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Wow, it's possible that the school staff do not even realize they need to have a meeting to discuss a suspension when it is suspected that it was related to the child's disability. Or they may never have done it, if they know about it. Keep on it! Sounds like you have a plan and some help coming. Hang in there! Roxanna "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke ( ) Letter from school Following Hunter's 5 days of suspension, 10 days later I get a letter stating that if Hunter misses more than 8 days in a semester, he loses all credit. Today (dentist appt.) was #6. That means he has to go til the end of school year (end of may) with 2 or less days out or basically, he repeats 6th grade. 3 months without an illness? That's a dream! I proceeded to call an attorney. I am dropping off a copy of the letter to the advocate now, and I am meeting with her in the morning. If they'd followed his IEP in the first place, he wouldn't have been suspended. And still no manifestation meeting, we are on day #10 post-suspension. The attorney said we have a case. I said I have no money LOL. He said to see what the advocate says tomorrow, and call him back if the advocate can't help. The attorney is a good friend of dh's boss, thank goodness. I think he'll give us a cut rate So I'm gonna call and clarify a few things with the principal. This time I'll keep my mouth shut about the attorney so the school doesn't find out and come kissin' butt to us. I'm steamin mad and tired of them walkin' all over us! in SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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