Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Hi Tammi I have been present for all of my son's testing. All of it has involved toys and picture books. He did have a hearing test and freaked out at the end of that (it did have a Mission Impossible kind of feeling with the booth and speakers everywhere). My son has had 3 rounds of testing, only the last one came up with ASD. He will be restested when he turns 5 and my pediatrician thinks he will get an AS diagnosis then. It was hard facing the prospect that our son may have AS or ASD but once he got into the right PreK setting we saw an immediate improvement in his disposition and ability to comply with directions. He is much happier now and will start mainstreaming into reg. preschool with an aid this year. Good luck! Zoe mom to Henry - age 4 ASD, and Ella - age 1 crossing our fingers On 8/22/06, Tammi <kianstam@...> wrote: > > First, let me start off by saying that my child has not been > diagnosed with Aspergers or any form of autism - yet. The reason for > my joining this group and for my post is that I have no clue where to > start or what to do. > > My son will be five years old in October. He is supposed to start > kindergarten next school term. He could've started Pre-K this year > but I felt as if one more year at home would be better for him. Maybe > I just wanted to 'hang onto' him a little longer here, I don't know. > > I noticed his development as far as speech was a bit behind what my > other 2 boys had been by the time he was around 2. He crawled, > walked, ate, played, interacted with others...etc. - on cue-but by > the time he was three he only had about five 'real' words in his > vocabulary. > > I either figured he was just a slow starter with language or that our > family was simply making it easy for him until I took him to the > doctor for his checkup. My mother went with me and thank goodness for > that. He was fine in the waiting area but when they called us back to > the office for his checkup, he went wild. He screamed the entire time > we were there, he begged to go home (in his own language, of course) > and it took my mom and 2 nurses to hold him down in order for him to > receive his vaccination. I was in tears the entire time - I felt > horrible. This was his first time seeing this particular > pediatrician - all visits before had been fine - I had no clue where > his fear of the doctor came from other than he seemed to think they > were 'taking him away' from me when they took us back and tried to > get him to stand on the scale. The doctor considered his > behavoir 'normal' until my mom spoke up and told him about how few > words were in his vocabulary and then he immediately said he needed > to be tested and set up the appt. > > Several things happened within our family that year and I suppose > part of my problem was sticking my head in the sand. Needless to say, > he never got tested. Within six months his vocabulary had tripled. > > I changed pediatricians because of insurance changes and had to take > him in to get checked for sickness - this was about a year ago. He > had the very same reaction when we were called back for him to be > seen. Again, it took myself and the doctor to hold him down just so > he could look in his ears. He cried, screamed, begged, held the door > against the doctor when he tried to get back in the room....and was > fine when we left. This doctor told me he didn't think I was off in > thinking he might have autistic traits - with how my son was acting > THERE and with my explanation (over my son's screaming, of course) of > his behavoirs. He set up for him to be tested and I went with my mom > to the initial visit. I just didn't get a good gut feeling about the > doctor he'd refered and I never took my son to see him. > > So to this day, he hasn't been tested and in less than a year, he > will be ready for school to start. > > A bit about my son: > He has certain things he becomes attached to and always has. > Sometimes it's coffee filters - he has to have them in the store or > anything that looks like them (a jello mold I have, reeses peanut > butter cup wrappers..etc) Once home, he will get them out from time > to time but not all the time. He likes to line them up. He doesn't > play with them for hours, he's not in his own little world excluding > all others. He's been thru the same thing with hoses/tubes...lots of > other things - he's that way about bandaids - getting them out of > each and every box I have and putting them on every available surface > AND hiding them in his own spot but going to get them when we ask for > one. He's very into textures and notices right away when I wear > something that's a bit different feeling such as satin, > corduroy..etc. He has an amazing ability for recall/memory. It amazes > me. We go somewhere once and it may be another six months before we > go back - he remembers what he got there or what we did. Numbers - he > memorizes numbers at times - garbage can serial numbers/license plate > numbers - not something he's obsessed with, just enough that I notice > how he can recall them. His speech, in my opinion, is about that of a > three year old. He is just beginning to put together words into > sentences...or began about six months ago and is steadily, slowly > getting there. It's hard to carry on a conversation with him - to ask > him a direct question. I noticed yesterday, for instance, that when > my son's girlfriend asked him what he was drinking, he > answered 'water' and that made me feel pretty good - just so you know > it's not an everyday thing. I have taught words to him through flash > cards and he remembers them. I watch him 'sound out' the beginnings > of certain words he doesn't know to correctly 'get' the beginning > sounds by comparing them with words he DOES know. He knows colors, > shapes and numbers up to his twenties. He has a great sense of humor, > plays well with other kids. He has this 'thing' he does where he will > put his fingers in his ears and kind of 'skip' around at times. He > loves music very much - it used to be one of the only things that > soothed him when he was a few years younger. He has no 'stopping > sense'. If he loves something - ice cream, fruit snacks, chips, gum - > he'll eat it all in one felled swoop if I don't watch him and hide it > PLUS he finds my hiding places pretty much every single time. Match > box cars or toys - he knows exactly how many of each color he has > when he is 'into' playing with them and will go ballistic if one goes > missing. > > My worries are that he's not been away from me very much - as in > being taken somewhere (daycare). I do work part time and he stays > with my husband and my sons then so he's used to being away from ME > and does fine. The main worry I have is how he'll react to a new > place and his behavoir when he's corrected. HERE at home, he screams > or he'll repeat the phrase we've used to correct him and scream out > the last word - getting very agitated and angry. I've tried using > time out and it's worked but I don't think we're very consistant on > it. I noticed last week when I put him there a few times that later > in the afternoon, he came up to me and pointed at the chair I'd sat > him in and said to me 'no screaming' - so I know he got the concept. > > I just don't know where to start or what to do. I have plans to call > the school system the first of Sept. - once they are settled into the > new school year - to see if there are any classes I can take him to > or if he can be tested there - anything to help him prepare for > starting school. > > My question or ONE of them - how can he be correctly tested if he > screams or cries the entire time I leave him (am assuming I'll have > to be away from him when they test) either way - with me there or > without, I feel he'd be at his worst in that situation. I KNOW these > people know what they are doing - I just would like to know for my > peace of mind HOW they do it when he exhibits this type of behavoir? > > I'd say I'm sorry for the length of this post..but I'm not. I have > read books, joined lists, talked to others...and I'm not asking you > to diagnose my child at all but just some advice on where to start, > what you think.... > > Thanks in advance for taking the time to read what I wrote. > > Tammi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Tammi I am sure you have already gotten some replies, but here is my input... First off,,, Get him tested. Perhaps even through the school for a thorough neuropsychological exam. I think sometimes if the school understands you are having major problems, they will be helpful. Unless someone else has ideas, but I think this is a good time to do it. Next, understand that a lot of us have started off with our heads in the sand. It is warm and safe... When we venture outside,,, WATCH OUT! We grow and learn. You definitely want to look at the Oasis Website for Asperger Syndrome. The best thing you can do, while waiting for testing is read and educate your self. If he is an " Aspie " (A term I call myself as an adult with Aspergers) Then you are going to need to be prepared to advocate for him. you say he probably just won't cooperate? GOOD! I hate to say it, but if he panics then hopefully they will see exactly what he goes through, and as long as the person r eally understands Aspergers or Autism and a number of other things, they will hopefully get that the behaviors are a result of something important and he will get the correct label. It is so important for him but also for you. You need to know that you are not this horrible parent and that there is a good reason for him liking those coffee filters. Unfortunately, for me it is the 'stinking' credit cards. From fake ones, to real ones, even hotel cards (though I have been working on at least not collecting those) I have them all. I get so mad when my husband has cut up his card. But I realize that I am a little too over board (yes me, not my kids) and so I am trying to slow down on my 'collection' (Hoarding, whatever~!) Ok, no purpose but I just like them. anyway, keep strong, advocate (learn everything you can!) and make sure he gets some testing done so you can start out early helping him where he needs it~ Keep us updated on your progress. I usually need someone to be accountable to get something done. If you do.... Consider yourself held accountable to us *Grin* (just being silly!!!!) *smiles* lisa b >> > I'd say I'm sorry for the length of this post..but I'm not. I have > read books, joined lists, talked to others...and I'm not asking you > to diagnose my child at all but just some advice on where to start, > what you think.... > > Thanks in advance for taking the time to read what I wrote. > > Tammi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 I'm not really sure how they test in The USA because I am in Australia. But my son has never spoken or responded to any assessment stuff that has been done with him. I would imagine that any body exeprienced in dx ASD would have dealt with many many kids who acted just like your son or mine! The assessment we had went for two hours and it took into account my sons behaviour and then we were interview for an hour without our son present. Often the behviours that they display in the assessment rooms give a great whole picture to what your son is like. Beck ( ) My First Posting - new and need advice First, let me start off by saying that my child has not been diagnosed with Aspergers or any form of autism - yet. The reason for my joining this group and for my post is that I have no clue where to start or what to do. My son will be five years old in October. He is supposed to start kindergarten next school term. He could've started Pre-K this year but I felt as if one more year at home would be better for him. Maybe I just wanted to 'hang onto' him a little longer here, I don't know. I noticed his development as far as speech was a bit behind what my other 2 boys had been by the time he was around 2. He crawled, walked, ate, played, interacted with others...etc. - on cue-but by the time he was three he only had about five 'real' words in his vocabulary. I either figured he was just a slow starter with language or that our family was simply making it easy for him until I took him to the doctor for his checkup. My mother went with me and thank goodness for that. He was fine in the waiting area but when they called us back to the office for his checkup, he went wild. He screamed the entire time we were there, he begged to go home (in his own language, of course) and it took my mom and 2 nurses to hold him down in order for him to receive his vaccination. I was in tears the entire time - I felt horrible. This was his first time seeing this particular pediatrician - all visits before had been fine - I had no clue where his fear of the doctor came from other than he seemed to think they were 'taking him away' from me when they took us back and tried to get him to stand on the scale. The doctor considered his behavoir 'normal' until my mom spoke up and told him about how few words were in his vocabulary and then he immediately said he needed to be tested and set up the appt. Several things happened within our family that year and I suppose part of my problem was sticking my head in the sand. Needless to say, he never got tested. Within six months his vocabulary had tripled. I changed pediatricians because of insurance changes and had to take him in to get checked for sickness - this was about a year ago. He had the very same reaction when we were called back for him to be seen. Again, it took myself and the doctor to hold him down just so he could look in his ears. He cried, screamed, begged, held the door against the doctor when he tried to get back in the room....and was fine when we left. This doctor told me he didn't think I was off in thinking he might have autistic traits - with how my son was acting THERE and with my explanation (over my son's screaming, of course) of his behavoirs. He set up for him to be tested and I went with my mom to the initial visit. I just didn't get a good gut feeling about the doctor he'd refered and I never took my son to see him. So to this day, he hasn't been tested and in less than a year, he will be ready for school to start. A bit about my son: He has certain things he becomes attached to and always has. Sometimes it's coffee filters - he has to have them in the store or anything that looks like them (a jello mold I have, reeses peanut butter cup wrappers..etc) Once home, he will get them out from time to time but not all the time. He likes to line them up. He doesn't play with them for hours, he's not in his own little world excluding all others. He's been thru the same thing with hoses/tubes...lots of other things - he's that way about bandaids - getting them out of each and every box I have and putting them on every available surface AND hiding them in his own spot but going to get them when we ask for one. He's very into textures and notices right away when I wear something that's a bit different feeling such as satin, corduroy..etc. He has an amazing ability for recall/memory. It amazes me. We go somewhere once and it may be another six months before we go back - he remembers what he got there or what we did. Numbers - he memorizes numbers at times - garbage can serial numbers/license plate numbers - not something he's obsessed with, just enough that I notice how he can recall them. His speech, in my opinion, is about that of a three year old. He is just beginning to put together words into sentences...or began about six months ago and is steadily, slowly getting there. It's hard to carry on a conversation with him - to ask him a direct question. I noticed yesterday, for instance, that when my son's girlfriend asked him what he was drinking, he answered 'water' and that made me feel pretty good - just so you know it's not an everyday thing. I have taught words to him through flash cards and he remembers them. I watch him 'sound out' the beginnings of certain words he doesn't know to correctly 'get' the beginning sounds by comparing them with words he DOES know. He knows colors, shapes and numbers up to his twenties. He has a great sense of humor, plays well with other kids. He has this 'thing' he does where he will put his fingers in his ears and kind of 'skip' around at times. He loves music very much - it used to be one of the only things that soothed him when he was a few years younger. He has no 'stopping sense'. If he loves something - ice cream, fruit snacks, chips, gum - he'll eat it all in one felled swoop if I don't watch him and hide it PLUS he finds my hiding places pretty much every single time. Match box cars or toys - he knows exactly how many of each color he has when he is 'into' playing with them and will go ballistic if one goes missing. My worries are that he's not been away from me very much - as in being taken somewhere (daycare). I do work part time and he stays with my husband and my sons then so he's used to being away from ME and does fine. The main worry I have is how he'll react to a new place and his behavoir when he's corrected. HERE at home, he screams or he'll repeat the phrase we've used to correct him and scream out the last word - getting very agitated and angry. I've tried using time out and it's worked but I don't think we're very consistant on it. I noticed last week when I put him there a few times that later in the afternoon, he came up to me and pointed at the chair I'd sat him in and said to me 'no screaming' - so I know he got the concept. I just don't know where to start or what to do. I have plans to call the school system the first of Sept. - once they are settled into the new school year - to see if there are any classes I can take him to or if he can be tested there - anything to help him prepare for starting school. My question or ONE of them - how can he be correctly tested if he screams or cries the entire time I leave him (am assuming I'll have to be away from him when they test) either way - with me there or without, I feel he'd be at his worst in that situation. I KNOW these people know what they are doing - I just would like to know for my peace of mind HOW they do it when he exhibits this type of behavoir? I'd say I'm sorry for the length of this post..but I'm not. I have read books, joined lists, talked to others...and I'm not asking you to diagnose my child at all but just some advice on where to start, what you think.... Thanks in advance for taking the time to read what I wrote. Tammi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Hi Tammi, I don't know about your insurance, but if you could possibly find a neuro-phsyc that would be willing to come into your home, maybe that would be a good option. I would imagine that from what info you have given, a big school or Dr.'s office might be pretty intimidating. Just a thought. Good luck to you. Theresa > > First, let me start off by saying that my child has not been > diagnosed with Aspergers or any form of autism - yet. The reason for > my joining this group and for my post is that I have no clue where to > start or what to do. > > My son will be five years old in October. He is supposed to start > kindergarten next school term. He could've started Pre-K this year > but I felt as if one more year at home would be better for him. Maybe > I just wanted to 'hang onto' him a little longer here, I don't know. > > I noticed his development as far as speech was a bit behind what my > other 2 boys had been by the time he was around 2. He crawled, > walked, ate, played, interacted with others...etc. - on cue-but by > the time he was three he only had about five 'real' words in his > vocabulary. > > I either figured he was just a slow starter with language or that our > family was simply making it easy for him until I took him to the > doctor for his checkup. My mother went with me and thank goodness for > that. He was fine in the waiting area but when they called us back to > the office for his checkup, he went wild. He screamed the entire time > we were there, he begged to go home (in his own language, of course) > and it took my mom and 2 nurses to hold him down in order for him to > receive his vaccination. I was in tears the entire time - I felt > horrible. This was his first time seeing this particular > pediatrician - all visits before had been fine - I had no clue where > his fear of the doctor came from other than he seemed to think they > were 'taking him away' from me when they took us back and tried to > get him to stand on the scale. The doctor considered his > behavoir 'normal' until my mom spoke up and told him about how few > words were in his vocabulary and then he immediately said he needed > to be tested and set up the appt. > > Several things happened within our family that year and I suppose > part of my problem was sticking my head in the sand. Needless to say, > he never got tested. Within six months his vocabulary had tripled. > > I changed pediatricians because of insurance changes and had to take > him in to get checked for sickness - this was about a year ago. He > had the very same reaction when we were called back for him to be > seen. Again, it took myself and the doctor to hold him down just so > he could look in his ears. He cried, screamed, begged, held the door > against the doctor when he tried to get back in the room....and was > fine when we left. This doctor told me he didn't think I was off in > thinking he might have autistic traits - with how my son was acting > THERE and with my explanation (over my son's screaming, of course) of > his behavoirs. He set up for him to be tested and I went with my mom > to the initial visit. I just didn't get a good gut feeling about the > doctor he'd refered and I never took my son to see him. > > So to this day, he hasn't been tested and in less than a year, he > will be ready for school to start. > > A bit about my son: > He has certain things he becomes attached to and always has. > Sometimes it's coffee filters - he has to have them in the store or > anything that looks like them (a jello mold I have, reeses peanut > butter cup wrappers..etc) Once home, he will get them out from time > to time but not all the time. He likes to line them up. He doesn't > play with them for hours, he's not in his own little world excluding > all others. He's been thru the same thing with hoses/tubes...lots of > other things - he's that way about bandaids - getting them out of > each and every box I have and putting them on every available surface > AND hiding them in his own spot but going to get them when we ask for > one. He's very into textures and notices right away when I wear > something that's a bit different feeling such as satin, > corduroy..etc. He has an amazing ability for recall/memory. It amazes > me. We go somewhere once and it may be another six months before we > go back - he remembers what he got there or what we did. Numbers - he > memorizes numbers at times - garbage can serial numbers/license plate > numbers - not something he's obsessed with, just enough that I notice > how he can recall them. His speech, in my opinion, is about that of a > three year old. He is just beginning to put together words into > sentences...or began about six months ago and is steadily, slowly > getting there. It's hard to carry on a conversation with him - to ask > him a direct question. I noticed yesterday, for instance, that when > my son's girlfriend asked him what he was drinking, he > answered 'water' and that made me feel pretty good - just so you know > it's not an everyday thing. I have taught words to him through flash > cards and he remembers them. I watch him 'sound out' the beginnings > of certain words he doesn't know to correctly 'get' the beginning > sounds by comparing them with words he DOES know. He knows colors, > shapes and numbers up to his twenties. He has a great sense of humor, > plays well with other kids. He has this 'thing' he does where he will > put his fingers in his ears and kind of 'skip' around at times. He > loves music very much - it used to be one of the only things that > soothed him when he was a few years younger. He has no 'stopping > sense'. If he loves something - ice cream, fruit snacks, chips, gum - > he'll eat it all in one felled swoop if I don't watch him and hide it > PLUS he finds my hiding places pretty much every single time. Match > box cars or toys - he knows exactly how many of each color he has > when he is 'into' playing with them and will go ballistic if one goes > missing. > > My worries are that he's not been away from me very much - as in > being taken somewhere (daycare). I do work part time and he stays > with my husband and my sons then so he's used to being away from ME > and does fine. The main worry I have is how he'll react to a new > place and his behavoir when he's corrected. HERE at home, he screams > or he'll repeat the phrase we've used to correct him and scream out > the last word - getting very agitated and angry. I've tried using > time out and it's worked but I don't think we're very consistant on > it. I noticed last week when I put him there a few times that later > in the afternoon, he came up to me and pointed at the chair I'd sat > him in and said to me 'no screaming' - so I know he got the concept. > > I just don't know where to start or what to do. I have plans to call > the school system the first of Sept. - once they are settled into the > new school year - to see if there are any classes I can take him to > or if he can be tested there - anything to help him prepare for > starting school. > > My question or ONE of them - how can he be correctly tested if he > screams or cries the entire time I leave him (am assuming I'll have > to be away from him when they test) either way - with me there or > without, I feel he'd be at his worst in that situation. I KNOW these > people know what they are doing - I just would like to know for my > peace of mind HOW they do it when he exhibits this type of behavoir? > > I'd say I'm sorry for the length of this post..but I'm not. I have > read books, joined lists, talked to others...and I'm not asking you > to diagnose my child at all but just some advice on where to start, > what you think.... > > Thanks in advance for taking the time to read what I wrote. > > Tammi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 When Seth had his IQ test as part of his dx process (also five by the way) they had me leave the room so I stood outside the door listening. I knew that if I wasn't there he might or might not have a melt down but he would most certainly act out, which he did. He refused to answer most of the questions and the doctor told me that he felt distinctly that not only did Seth know the answer he was getting some kind of enjoyment out of not giving it. I could hear him in there giving his maniacal laughter. So needless to say he scored like an 82 and the doctor said he thought it was indicitive of nothing because he thought that Seth had refused to answer about 70% of the questions. He said it really stood in the way of getting a diagnosis. So I don't know. I guess if he acts nuts during the test you might just have to keep trying that's what we plan to do. Amber My question or ONE of them - how can he be correctly tested if he > screams or cries the entire time I leave him (am assuming I'll have > to be away from him when they test) either way - with me there or > without, I feel he'd be at his worst in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 First off ((HUGS))to you. The testing process is hard, because you have to wait for the results for what seems like forever. But so well worth it. When you call the school to find out about testing, ask who you should send the written request to. That's what really starts the process. They have 60 instructional days to complete the testing. Part of the testing should include a lengthy parent questionaire. Find out what the testing entails for your son & ask if you can be present. Then explain it to him ahead of time & talk to him about how important it is that he do as the tester asks. We found things go so much smoother with my son if we can explain as much to him as possible about what is going to happen ahead of time. Much of his anxiety stems from not being able to predict what will happen next in a situation. You might have to take breaks in the testing if you can see he's starting to get overwhelmed. > > First, let me start off by saying that my child has not been > diagnosed with Aspergers or any form of autism - yet. The reason for > my joining this group and for my post is that I have no clue where to > start or what to do. > > My son will be five years old in October. He is supposed to start > kindergarten next school term. He could've started Pre-K this year > but I felt as if one more year at home would be better for him. Maybe > I just wanted to 'hang onto' him a little longer here, I don't know. > > I noticed his development as far as speech was a bit behind what my > other 2 boys had been by the time he was around 2. He crawled, > walked, ate, played, interacted with others...etc. - on cue-but by > the time he was three he only had about five 'real' words in his > vocabulary. > > I either figured he was just a slow starter with language or that our > family was simply making it easy for him until I took him to the > doctor for his checkup. My mother went with me and thank goodness for > that. He was fine in the waiting area but when they called us back to > the office for his checkup, he went wild. He screamed the entire time > we were there, he begged to go home (in his own language, of course) > and it took my mom and 2 nurses to hold him down in order for him to > receive his vaccination. I was in tears the entire time - I felt > horrible. This was his first time seeing this particular > pediatrician - all visits before had been fine - I had no clue where > his fear of the doctor came from other than he seemed to think they > were 'taking him away' from me when they took us back and tried to > get him to stand on the scale. The doctor considered his > behavoir 'normal' until my mom spoke up and told him about how few > words were in his vocabulary and then he immediately said he needed > to be tested and set up the appt. > > Several things happened within our family that year and I suppose > part of my problem was sticking my head in the sand. Needless to say, > he never got tested. Within six months his vocabulary had tripled. > > I changed pediatricians because of insurance changes and had to take > him in to get checked for sickness - this was about a year ago. He > had the very same reaction when we were called back for him to be > seen. Again, it took myself and the doctor to hold him down just so > he could look in his ears. He cried, screamed, begged, held the door > against the doctor when he tried to get back in the room....and was > fine when we left. This doctor told me he didn't think I was off in > thinking he might have autistic traits - with how my son was acting > THERE and with my explanation (over my son's screaming, of course) of > his behavoirs. He set up for him to be tested and I went with my mom > to the initial visit. I just didn't get a good gut feeling about the > doctor he'd refered and I never took my son to see him. > > So to this day, he hasn't been tested and in less than a year, he > will be ready for school to start. > > A bit about my son: > He has certain things he becomes attached to and always has. > Sometimes it's coffee filters - he has to have them in the store or > anything that looks like them (a jello mold I have, reeses peanut > butter cup wrappers..etc) Once home, he will get them out from time > to time but not all the time. He likes to line them up. He doesn't > play with them for hours, he's not in his own little world excluding > all others. He's been thru the same thing with hoses/tubes...lots of > other things - he's that way about bandaids - getting them out of > each and every box I have and putting them on every available surface > AND hiding them in his own spot but going to get them when we ask for > one. He's very into textures and notices right away when I wear > something that's a bit different feeling such as satin, > corduroy..etc. He has an amazing ability for recall/memory. It amazes > me. We go somewhere once and it may be another six months before we > go back - he remembers what he got there or what we did. Numbers - he > memorizes numbers at times - garbage can serial numbers/license plate > numbers - not something he's obsessed with, just enough that I notice > how he can recall them. His speech, in my opinion, is about that of a > three year old. He is just beginning to put together words into > sentences...or began about six months ago and is steadily, slowly > getting there. It's hard to carry on a conversation with him - to ask > him a direct question. I noticed yesterday, for instance, that when > my son's girlfriend asked him what he was drinking, he > answered 'water' and that made me feel pretty good - just so you know > it's not an everyday thing. I have taught words to him through flash > cards and he remembers them. I watch him 'sound out' the beginnings > of certain words he doesn't know to correctly 'get' the beginning > sounds by comparing them with words he DOES know. He knows colors, > shapes and numbers up to his twenties. He has a great sense of humor, > plays well with other kids. He has this 'thing' he does where he will > put his fingers in his ears and kind of 'skip' around at times. He > loves music very much - it used to be one of the only things that > soothed him when he was a few years younger. He has no 'stopping > sense'. If he loves something - ice cream, fruit snacks, chips, gum - > he'll eat it all in one felled swoop if I don't watch him and hide it > PLUS he finds my hiding places pretty much every single time. Match > box cars or toys - he knows exactly how many of each color he has > when he is 'into' playing with them and will go ballistic if one goes > missing. > > My worries are that he's not been away from me very much - as in > being taken somewhere (daycare). I do work part time and he stays > with my husband and my sons then so he's used to being away from ME > and does fine. The main worry I have is how he'll react to a new > place and his behavoir when he's corrected. HERE at home, he screams > or he'll repeat the phrase we've used to correct him and scream out > the last word - getting very agitated and angry. I've tried using > time out and it's worked but I don't think we're very consistant on > it. I noticed last week when I put him there a few times that later > in the afternoon, he came up to me and pointed at the chair I'd sat > him in and said to me 'no screaming' - so I know he got the concept. > > I just don't know where to start or what to do. I have plans to call > the school system the first of Sept. - once they are settled into the > new school year - to see if there are any classes I can take him to > or if he can be tested there - anything to help him prepare for > starting school. > > My question or ONE of them - how can he be correctly tested if he > screams or cries the entire time I leave him (am assuming I'll have > to be away from him when they test) either way - with me there or > without, I feel he'd be at his worst in that situation. I KNOW these > people know what they are doing - I just would like to know for my > peace of mind HOW they do it when he exhibits this type of behavoir? > > I'd say I'm sorry for the length of this post..but I'm not. I have > read books, joined lists, talked to others...and I'm not asking you > to diagnose my child at all but just some advice on where to start, > what you think.... > > Thanks in advance for taking the time to read what I wrote. > > Tammi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 He sounds exactly like my son who is 5 and going into kindergarden, I have had him " tested " I guess you could call it that, he has seen a child psychiatrist who simply said after 15 mins, " oh he is definitely adhd and you need to get him tested at the Childrens Hospital " . It takes months to get into the Developmental Dr, but finally we did and we had an hour appt. where he asked me many questions and he gave a few tests. The ones he would answer he scored a year above his age. This Dr. also dx with adhd and dysgraphia, but only possible AS or ASD...he wants him to go to regualr school and to see the OT and ST....which also took forever to get appts.....this isn't meant to scare you, but I am now frustrated because I have come to terms with his AS and it seems others won't dx so he can get the help he needs...I am totally scared to death about him starting regular school......he goes to an in home daycare now and one of the kids asked me why he acts so weird (not wanting to hug or play and sometimes makes funny noises)....i hope this isn't a prelude to school...and to answer your questions the Dr. i went to had me in there the whole time...and I had to bite my tongue not to help him answer the Dr. I hope this helps (you are not alone) keep us posted.. Kim Tammi <kianstam@...> wrote: First, let me start off by saying that my child has not been diagnosed with Aspergers or any form of autism - yet. The reason for my joining this group and for my post is that I have no clue where to start or what to do. My son will be five years old in October. He is supposed to start kindergarten next school term. He could've started Pre-K this year but I felt as if one more year at home would be better for him. Maybe I just wanted to 'hang onto' him a little longer here, I don't know. I noticed his development as far as speech was a bit behind what my other 2 boys had been by the time he was around 2. He crawled, walked, ate, played, interacted with others...etc. - on cue-but by the time he was three he only had about five 'real' words in his vocabulary. I either figured he was just a slow starter with language or that our family was simply making it easy for him until I took him to the doctor for his checkup. My mother went with me and thank goodness for that. He was fine in the waiting area but when they called us back to the office for his checkup, he went wild. He screamed the entire time we were there, he begged to go home (in his own language, of course) and it took my mom and 2 nurses to hold him down in order for him to receive his vaccination. I was in tears the entire time - I felt horrible. This was his first time seeing this particular pediatrician - all visits before had been fine - I had no clue where his fear of the doctor came from other than he seemed to think they were 'taking him away' from me when they took us back and tried to get him to stand on the scale. The doctor considered his behavoir 'normal' until my mom spoke up and told him about how few words were in his vocabulary and then he immediately said he needed to be tested and set up the appt. Several things happened within our family that year and I suppose part of my problem was sticking my head in the sand. Needless to say, he never got tested. Within six months his vocabulary had tripled. I changed pediatricians because of insurance changes and had to take him in to get checked for sickness - this was about a year ago. He had the very same reaction when we were called back for him to be seen. Again, it took myself and the doctor to hold him down just so he could look in his ears. He cried, screamed, begged, held the door against the doctor when he tried to get back in the room....and was fine when we left. This doctor told me he didn't think I was off in thinking he might have autistic traits - with how my son was acting THERE and with my explanation (over my son's screaming, of course) of his behavoirs. He set up for him to be tested and I went with my mom to the initial visit. I just didn't get a good gut feeling about the doctor he'd refered and I never took my son to see him. So to this day, he hasn't been tested and in less than a year, he will be ready for school to start. A bit about my son: He has certain things he becomes attached to and always has. Sometimes it's coffee filters - he has to have them in the store or anything that looks like them (a jello mold I have, reeses peanut butter cup wrappers..etc) Once home, he will get them out from time to time but not all the time. He likes to line them up. He doesn't play with them for hours, he's not in his own little world excluding all others. He's been thru the same thing with hoses/tubes...lots of other things - he's that way about bandaids - getting them out of each and every box I have and putting them on every available surface AND hiding them in his own spot but going to get them when we ask for one. He's very into textures and notices right away when I wear something that's a bit different feeling such as satin, corduroy..etc. He has an amazing ability for recall/memory. It amazes me. We go somewhere once and it may be another six months before we go back - he remembers what he got there or what we did. Numbers - he memorizes numbers at times - garbage can serial numbers/license plate numbers - not something he's obsessed with, just enough that I notice how he can recall them. His speech, in my opinion, is about that of a three year old. He is just beginning to put together words into sentences...or began about six months ago and is steadily, slowly getting there. It's hard to carry on a conversation with him - to ask him a direct question. I noticed yesterday, for instance, that when my son's girlfriend asked him what he was drinking, he answered 'water' and that made me feel pretty good - just so you know it's not an everyday thing. I have taught words to him through flash cards and he remembers them. I watch him 'sound out' the beginnings of certain words he doesn't know to correctly 'get' the beginning sounds by comparing them with words he DOES know. He knows colors, shapes and numbers up to his twenties. He has a great sense of humor, plays well with other kids. He has this 'thing' he does where he will put his fingers in his ears and kind of 'skip' around at times. He loves music very much - it used to be one of the only things that soothed him when he was a few years younger. He has no 'stopping sense'. If he loves something - ice cream, fruit snacks, chips, gum - he'll eat it all in one felled swoop if I don't watch him and hide it PLUS he finds my hiding places pretty much every single time. Match box cars or toys - he knows exactly how many of each color he has when he is 'into' playing with them and will go ballistic if one goes missing. My worries are that he's not been away from me very much - as in being taken somewhere (daycare). I do work part time and he stays with my husband and my sons then so he's used to being away from ME and does fine. The main worry I have is how he'll react to a new place and his behavoir when he's corrected. HERE at home, he screams or he'll repeat the phrase we've used to correct him and scream out the last word - getting very agitated and angry. I've tried using time out and it's worked but I don't think we're very consistant on it. I noticed last week when I put him there a few times that later in the afternoon, he came up to me and pointed at the chair I'd sat him in and said to me 'no screaming' - so I know he got the concept. I just don't know where to start or what to do. I have plans to call the school system the first of Sept. - once they are settled into the new school year - to see if there are any classes I can take him to or if he can be tested there - anything to help him prepare for starting school. My question or ONE of them - how can he be correctly tested if he screams or cries the entire time I leave him (am assuming I'll have to be away from him when they test) either way - with me there or without, I feel he'd be at his worst in that situation. I KNOW these people know what they are doing - I just would like to know for my peace of mind HOW they do it when he exhibits this type of behavoir? I'd say I'm sorry for the length of this post..but I'm not. I have read books, joined lists, talked to others...and I'm not asking you to diagnose my child at all but just some advice on where to start, what you think.... Thanks in advance for taking the time to read what I wrote. Tammi --------------------------------- All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 I can totally understand everything you are going through. My son is 7yrs old and is in first grade this year. We started school a week ago. I was totally scared to death when Trevor started K as he has type 1 diabetes and so I was scared his blood sugar would get too low while at school. Plus, Trevor never went to preschool. I always new something was different about him but just thought that is who he was. I also have two older kids 14 and 11. We just though Trevor was very shy and starting him in school he would progress forward. His obsession is cartoons. We had some trouble in the beginning but his teacher was great and basically set up a number behavior chart for the class which also had a picture of face: 1 was in the green and a happy face, 2 yellow with a frown and 3 red with an angry face. So Trevor got use to knowing he needed to have a " 1 " day. He also worked with the speech therapist in groups and one on one and other resource teachers at the school. In Feb. at our teacher conferance Trevor still wasn't where he needed to be so I requested to have him tested. The end of the school year we received the results and they for one suspected Trevor of having Asperger's. I have read tons on it and now know why he does all these odd little things. He also loves collecting odd things and storing them on the three bookshelves I have here in the living room. His straw from juice boxes, money, little toys and all kinds of other things. I know his speech therapist did up a social book for Trevor to prepare him during the summer for first grade. She took pictures of Trevor with his first grade teacher, picture of him in front of the school, at his new desk and such and made a story out of it. I know I have to talk to him all day on Sundays to let him know that he will have to go to school the next morning. His teacher said he did so well in school because AS kids like routines and you definately have that while in school. So basically my advise would be to definately call the school district and talk to anyone and everyone. Don't be scared to find out what all you need to do and do whatever you can for your son. Take him to the school where he will be in K so he can see it. I will also tell you Trevor was dx with celiac disease (gluten intolerance) and his AS sypmtoms have gotten better. He seems a little more relaxed and doesn't seem to get as mad as easily. Hope all this helps you and good luck. Darcy dx celiac 6/05 son Trevor type 1 diabetes, AS, and celiac > First, let me start off by saying that my child has not been > diagnosed with Aspergers or any form of autism - yet. The reason for > my joining this group and for my post is that I have no clue where to > start or what to do. > > My son will be five years old in October. He is supposed to start > kindergarten next school term. He could've started Pre-K this year > but I felt as if one more year at home would be better for him. Maybe > I just wanted to 'hang onto' him a little longer here, I don't know. > > I noticed his development as far as speech was a bit behind what my > other 2 boys had been by the time he was around 2. He crawled, > walked, ate, played, interacted with others...etc. - on cue-but by > the time he was three he only had about five 'real' words in his > vocabulary. > > I either figured he was just a slow starter with language or that our > family was simply making it easy for him until I took him to the > doctor for his checkup. My mother went with me and thank goodness for > that. He was fine in the waiting area but when they called us back to > the office for his checkup, he went wild. He screamed the entire time > we were there, he begged to go home (in his own language, of course) > and it took my mom and 2 nurses to hold him down in order for him to > receive his vaccination. I was in tears the entire time - I felt > horrible. This was his first time seeing this particular > pediatrician - all visits before had been fine - I had no clue where > his fear of the doctor came from other than he seemed to think they > were 'taking him away' from me when they took us back and tried to > get him to stand on the scale. The doctor considered his > behavoir 'normal' until my mom spoke up and told him about how few > words were in his vocabulary and then he immediately said he needed > to be tested and set up the appt. > > Several things happened within our family that year and I suppose > part of my problem was sticking my head in the sand. Needless to say, > he never got tested. Within six months his vocabulary had tripled. > > I changed pediatricians because of insurance changes and had to take > him in to get checked for sickness - this was about a year ago. He > had the very same reaction when we were called back for him to be > seen. Again, it took myself and the doctor to hold him down just so > he could look in his ears. He cried, screamed, begged, held the door > against the doctor when he tried to get back in the room....and was > fine when we left. This doctor told me he didn't think I was off in > thinking he might have autistic traits - with how my son was acting > THERE and with my explanation (over my son's screaming, of course) of > his behavoirs. He set up for him to be tested and I went with my mom > to the initial visit. I just didn't get a good gut feeling about the > doctor he'd refered and I never took my son to see him. > > So to this day, he hasn't been tested and in less than a year, he > will be ready for school to start. > > A bit about my son: > He has certain things he becomes attached to and always has. > Sometimes it's coffee filters - he has to have them in the store or > anything that looks like them (a jello mold I have, reeses peanut > butter cup wrappers..etc) Once home, he will get them out from time > to time but not all the time. He likes to line them up. He doesn't > play with them for hours, he's not in his own little world excluding > all others. He's been thru the same thing with hoses/tubes...lots of > other things - he's that way about bandaids - getting them out of > each and every box I have and putting them on every available surface > AND hiding them in his own spot but going to get them when we ask for > one. He's very into textures and notices right away when I wear > something that's a bit different feeling such as satin, > corduroy..etc. He has an amazing ability for recall/memory. It amazes > me. We go somewhere once and it may be another six months before we > go back - he remembers what he got there or what we did. Numbers - he > memorizes numbers at times - garbage can serial numbers/license plate > numbers - not something he's obsessed with, just enough that I notice > how he can recall them. His speech, in my opinion, is about that of a > three year old. He is just beginning to put together words into > sentences...or began about six months ago and is steadily, slowly > getting there. It's hard to carry on a conversation with him - to ask > him a direct question. I noticed yesterday, for instance, that when > my son's girlfriend asked him what he was drinking, he > answered 'water' and that made me feel pretty good - just so you know > it's not an everyday thing. I have taught words to him through flash > cards and he remembers them. I watch him 'sound out' the beginnings > of certain words he doesn't know to correctly 'get' the beginning > sounds by comparing them with words he DOES know. He knows colors, > shapes and numbers up to his twenties. He has a great sense of humor, > plays well with other kids. He has this 'thing' he does where he will > put his fingers in his ears and kind of 'skip' around at times. He > loves music very much - it used to be one of the only things that > soothed him when he was a few years younger. He has no 'stopping > sense'. If he loves something - ice cream, fruit snacks, chips, gum - > he'll eat it all in one felled swoop if I don't watch him and hide it > PLUS he finds my hiding places pretty much every single time. Match > box cars or toys - he knows exactly how many of each color he has > when he is 'into' playing with them and will go ballistic if one goes > missing. > > My worries are that he's not been away from me very much - as in > being taken somewhere (daycare). I do work part time and he stays > with my husband and my sons then so he's used to being away from ME > and does fine. The main worry I have is how he'll react to a new > place and his behavoir when he's corrected. HERE at home, he screams > or he'll repeat the phrase we've used to correct him and scream out > the last word - getting very agitated and angry. I've tried using > time out and it's worked but I don't think we're very consistant on > it. I noticed last week when I put him there a few times that later > in the afternoon, he came up to me and pointed at the chair I'd sat > him in and said to me 'no screaming' - so I know he got the concept. > > I just don't know where to start or what to do. I have plans to call > the school system the first of Sept. - once they are settled into the > new school year - to see if there are any classes I can take him to > or if he can be tested there - anything to help him prepare for > starting school. > > My question or ONE of them - how can he be correctly tested if he > screams or cries the entire time I leave him (am assuming I'll have > to be away from him when they test) either way - with me there or > without, I feel he'd be at his worst in that situation. I KNOW these > people know what they are doing - I just would like to know for my > peace of mind HOW they do it when he exhibits this type of behavoir? > > I'd say I'm sorry for the length of this post..but I'm not. I have > read books, joined lists, talked to others...and I'm not asking you > to diagnose my child at all but just some advice on where to start, > what you think.... > > Thanks in advance for taking the time to read what I wrote. > > Tammi > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 On 8/22/06, Tammi <kianstam@...> wrote: My question or ONE of them - how can he be correctly tested if he > > screams or cries the entire time I leave him (am assuming I'll have > > to be away from him when they test) either way - with me there or > > without, I feel he'd be at his worst in that situation. When Seth had his IQ test as part of his dx process (also five by the way) they had me leave the room so I stood outside the door listening. I knew that if I wasn't there he might or might not have a melt down but he would most certainly act out, which he did. He refused to answer most of the questions and the doctor told me that he felt distinctly that not only did Seth know the answer he was getting some kind of enjoyment out of not giving it. I could hear him in there giving his maniacal laughter. So needless to say he scored like an 82 and the doctor said he thought it was indicitive of nothing because he thought that Seth had refused to answer about 70% of the questions. He said it really stood in the way of getting a diagnosis. So I don't know. I guess if he acts nuts during the test you might just have to keep trying that's what we plan to do. Amber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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