An interesting conversation

[Guest guest]

My DH and I were both upset about what happened to Sherry's son, no ten year old

should

ever have to go through that. My DH was still upset by lunchtime by what I read

to him

and he mentioned that had happened to a friend whose wife is a full time school

teacher.

The friend told my husband that teachers at his wife's school resent special

needs kids and

suspects that many other teachers feel the same. His wife had tried to help a

kid with AS in

her class but the school was more interested in finding ways to convince his

family to

move the kid on. He said that schools want to transfer special needs kids

because they

cost the system money and they can't just feed them through the meat grinder and

tell

them too shut up and sit still like they do with NT's.

I agree with what ? said earlier - we need an action group for kids with

Autism and AS.

All the system cares about is geting their government allotted $7500 per child

per year

and not having to spend extra helping special needs kids.

I'm a homeschooling Mum - but please don't take my rant as a pro-homeschooling

move.

I'm lucky enough to be able to do what I do and it takes a lot of work - but it

doesn't stop

me wishing I could bring people who ignore and mistreat special needs kids to

rights.

a

[Guest guest]

This is just a note to parents, PLEASE do not think that all

teachers resent (for lack of a better word) special needs children.

I teach elemetary school and I absolutely love it. I love all my

kids including my special needs kids (and even my major trouble

makers) and I actually miss them when the year is over and it's

time for them to move to the next grade. I'm not saying that there

aren't teachers out there who think differently than I do, but not

all of us resent them. Those who resent special needs kids need to

get out of the profession and quit making those of us who take every

aspect of our job seriously look bad.

I do find what happened to that poor 10 year old appalling. I was

in tears. I can't believe that the adult in charge of him would be

so ignorant as to put that poor child through all of the trauma

knowing he has AS. I also can't believe that the school system

didn't make sure that whoever was in charge knew what to do in case

he got upset. I just couldn't imagine not listening to an upset

child. I don't care who they were, or whether or not they were

special needs. They all have feelings and need to be heard.

I teach at a very small school. We have several special needs kids

who go to our school, and we as teachers (at my school) look out for

and care very deeply for all of them. I would be VERY surprised to

see something like that happen here.

>

>

>

> My DH and I were both upset about what happened to Sherry's son,

no ten year old should

> ever have to go through that. My DH was still upset by lunchtime

by what I read to him

> and he mentioned that had happened to a friend whose wife is a

full time school teacher.

>

> The friend told my husband that teachers at his wife's school

resent special needs kids and

> suspects that many other teachers feel the same. His wife had

tried to help a kid with AS in

> her class but the school was more interested in finding ways to

convince his family to

> move the kid on. He said that schools want to transfer special

needs kids because they

> cost the system money and they can't just feed them through the

meat grinder and tell

> them too shut up and sit still like they do with NT's.

>

> I agree with what ? said earlier - we need an action group for

kids with Autism and AS.

> All the system cares about is geting their government allotted

$7500 per child per year

> and not having to spend extra helping special needs kids.

>

> I'm a homeschooling Mum - but please don't take my rant as a pro-

homeschooling move.

> I'm lucky enough to be able to do what I do and it takes a lot of

work - but it doesn't stop

> me wishing I could bring people who ignore and mistreat special

needs kids to rights.

>

> a

>

[Guest guest]

This is just a note to parents, PLEASE do not think that all

teachers resent (for lack of a better word) special needs children.

I teach elemetary school and I absolutely love it. I love all my

kids including my special needs kids (and even my major trouble

makers) and I actually miss them when the year is over and it's

time for them to move to the next grade. I'm not saying that there

aren't teachers out there who think differently than I do, but not

all of us resent them. Those who resent special needs kids need to

get out of the profession and quit making those of us who take every

aspect of our job seriously look bad.

I do find what happened to that poor 10 year old appalling. I was

in tears. I can't believe that the adult in charge of him would be

so ignorant as to put that poor child through all of the trauma

knowing he has AS. I also can't believe that the school system

didn't make sure that whoever was in charge knew what to do in case

he got upset. I just couldn't imagine not listening to an upset

child. I don't care who they were, or whether or not they were

special needs. They all have feelings and need to be heard.

I teach at a very small school. We have several special needs kids

who go to our school, and we as teachers (at my school) look out for

and care very deeply for all of them. I would be VERY surprised to

see something like that happen here.

>

>

>

> My DH and I were both upset about what happened to Sherry's son,

no ten year old should

> ever have to go through that. My DH was still upset by lunchtime

by what I read to him

> and he mentioned that had happened to a friend whose wife is a

full time school teacher.

>

> The friend told my husband that teachers at his wife's school

resent special needs kids and

> suspects that many other teachers feel the same. His wife had

tried to help a kid with AS in

> her class but the school was more interested in finding ways to

convince his family to

> move the kid on. He said that schools want to transfer special

needs kids because they

> cost the system money and they can't just feed them through the

meat grinder and tell

> them too shut up and sit still like they do with NT's.

>

> I agree with what ? said earlier - we need an action group for

kids with Autism and AS.

> All the system cares about is geting their government allotted

$7500 per child per year

> and not having to spend extra helping special needs kids.

>

> I'm a homeschooling Mum - but please don't take my rant as a pro-

homeschooling move.

> I'm lucky enough to be able to do what I do and it takes a lot of

work - but it doesn't stop

> me wishing I could bring people who ignore and mistreat special

needs kids to rights.

>

> a

>

[Guest guest]

An Interesting Conversation -- Must Read

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to

his class on the problem science has with God. He asks one of his

new student to stand and.....

Prof: So you believe in God?

Student: Absolutely, sir.

Prof: Is God good?

Student: Sure.

Prof: Is God all-powerful?

Student: Yes.

Prof: My brother died of cancer even though

he prayed to God to heal him.

Most of us would attempt to help others who

are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?

Student is silent.

Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start

again, young fellow. Is God good?

Student:

Yes.

Prof: Is Satan good?

Student: No.

Prof: Where does Satan come from?

Student: From...God.. .

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there

evil in this world?

Student: Yes.

Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God

did make everything. Correct?

Student: Yes.

Prof: So who created evil?

Student does not answer.

Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?

All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

Student: Yes, sir.

Prof: So, who created them?

Student has no answer.

Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use

to identify and observe the world around you.

Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your

God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted

your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for

that matter?

Student: No, sir. I'm

afraid I haven't.

Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student: Yes.

Prof: According to empirical, testable,

demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to

that,

son?

Student: Nothing. I only have

my faith.

Prof: Yes Faith. And that is the problem

science has.

Now the student said can I ask something to

you Professor.

Student: Professor, is there such a thing as

heat?

Prof: Yes.

Student: And is

there such a thing as cold?

Prof: Yes.

Student: No sir. There isn't.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with

this turn of

events.)

Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even

more heat, superheat, Mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat.

But we don't have anything called cold. We

can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further

after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to

describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is

not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture

theatre.)

Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is

there such a thing as darkness?

Prof: Yes. What is night

if there isn't darkness?

Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is

the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light,

flashing light... But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its

called darkness, isn't it?

In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you

would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?

Prof: So what is the point

you are making, young man?

Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical

premise is flawed.

Prof: Flawed? Can you

explain how?

Student: Sir, you are working on the premise

of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a

bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite,

something we can measure. Sir, science can't

even explain a thought.

It uses electricity and magnetism, but has

never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the

opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a

substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.

Now tell me Professor, Do you teach your

students that they evolved from a monkey?

Prof: If you are referring

to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student: Have you ever observed evolution

with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile,

beginning to realize where the argument is going.)

Student: Since no one has ever observed the

process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an

on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a

scientist but a preacher?

(The class is in uproar.)

Student: Is there anyone in the class

who has ever seen the Professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student: Is there anyone here, who has ever

heard the

Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt

it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of

empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,

sir. With all due

Respect, sir, how do we then trust your

lectures?

(The room is silent. The professor stares at

the student, his face unfathomable. )

Prof: I guess you'll have

to take them on faith, son.

Student: That is it sir... The link between

man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive.

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