Re: e-mail from person who doubts truth of arrested child

November 5, 2006

Well Lynn I didn't have the child arrested that made the news but I know

for a fact my principle last year called the police 3 times on my 9 year old

son. Two times were because he was either verbally loud and arguing and the

other time because he refused to get off the bus. The last time he was

lashing out because he told them he was leaving and they were restraining

him and he didn't like that. So yes it does happen. I am still totally

amazed myself that she called the police but it does happen. I got there

right before the police the last time and she didn't even inform them that

he was autistic. The officer offered to to take him in on assult charges and

I would have made a major ordeal over that had it happened including filing

a law suit at the school. He had a horrible year last year and that

principle and her " ignorance " when it came to Asperger's made his life worse

M.P. needs to wake up if she thinks these things don't happen.

Suzanne

-- ( ) e-mail from person who doubts truth of arrested

child

Hi,

I received e-mail from person who wrote to me after I posted in my

hometown asa support group the info on the arrested child.

Here is the msg.

Would someone address this issue please?

Lynn ---

1st msg:

" Forgive me for being suspicious by nature, but I " googled " your story

on the web and in the news. Know what? I can't find anything which

even vaguely resembles it. A " 10 year old autistic arrested at

school " had to have made the news. So where is the news article

recounting it? I checked a Indianapolis TV station and I couldn't

find it. I hate to say it, but unless I can find something to confirm

it, I suspect your aspergers post is a piece of well written fiction.

Is there any way to track down its source from your end? Shouldn't

we be able to confirm it from our from one of our Autism support

groups in Indiana? If it is true -- we have another reason to be

concerned about school and police authorities -- but if someone is

writing fiction as though it was fact just to enrage us, all of us

have to be twice as careful before share more " stories of injustice. "

M. P.

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2nd msg:

I did note that you had gotten your post from an Asperger's site. I

don't doubt that most messages and stories shared by people who are

concerned with children or family members who have autism are indeed

true. The story you shared might also be true.

Certainly I believe that you would not have shared it if you knew it

was not true. It just seems to me we live in a time where stories of

injustice (particularly concerning " special needs " people) are given

considerable press. A 10 year old autistic child who is arrested as

your article described would have demanded space in any local paper

and at least several seconds on the local nightly news. It would not

surprise me however if a national news organization got involved. I

can tell you if my autistic child were arrested unjustly I would have

demanded a press conference or at least an interview with a

journalist. This kind of story simply has to be reported. The public

needs to know when such things happen. Perhaps your post is an old

one -- or perhaps it is ficticious -- but if it is factual and recent

-- I should have been able to confirm it on the web. Thank

you.M.P.

November 5, 2006

I personally know a 10-year-old child with AS who was arrested for making a

scene at

school. It does happen--more than it ought to. And it didn't make the papers

that time

either. Parents are so busy dealing with the arrest that they don't bring in

the media, and

the school certainly isn't going to do it. For that matter, I'm not positive

the media would

react with the same degree of indignation that those of us here feel. There's

also a school

of thought out there that children who hit teachers deserve to be arrested, no

matter what

the reason. There really is a lot of ignorance about Asperger's even though it

does seem

to be attracting more media coverage and more people know a little about it now.

I think it's a gross injustice to this family to suggest that just because

someone can't find

the incident when they Google it, the original series of posts may be a cynical

attempt to

manipulate people.

Sue

>

> Hi,

> I received e-mail from person who wrote to me after I posted in my

> hometown asa support group the info on the arrested child.

> Here is the msg.

> Would someone address this issue please?

> Lynn ---

> 1st msg:

> " Forgive me for being suspicious by nature, but I " googled " your story

> on the web and in the news. Know what? I can't find anything which

> even vaguely resembles it. A " 10 year old autistic arrested at

> school " had to have made the news. So where is the news article

> recounting it? I checked a Indianapolis TV station and I couldn't

> find it. I hate to say it, but unless I can find something to confirm

> it, I suspect your aspergers post is a piece of well written fiction.

> Is there any way to track down its source from your end? Shouldn't

> we be able to confirm it from our from one of our Autism support

> groups in Indiana? If it is true -- we have another reason to be

> concerned about school and police authorities -- but if someone is

> writing fiction as though it was fact just to enrage us, all of us

> have to be twice as careful before share more " stories of injustice. "

> M. P.

> ---------------------------------------------------

> 2nd msg:

> I did note that you had gotten your post from an Asperger's site. I

> don't doubt that most messages and stories shared by people who are

> concerned with children or family members who have autism are indeed

> true. The story you shared might also be true.

> Certainly I believe that you would not have shared it if you knew it

> was not true. It just seems to me we live in a time where stories of

> injustice (particularly concerning " special needs " people) are given

> considerable press. A 10 year old autistic child who is arrested as

> your article described would have demanded space in any local paper

> and at least several seconds on the local nightly news. It would not

> surprise me however if a national news organization got involved. I

> can tell you if my autistic child were arrested unjustly I would have

> demanded a press conference or at least an interview with a

> journalist. This kind of story simply has to be reported. The public

> needs to know when such things happen. Perhaps your post is an old

> one -- or perhaps it is ficticious -- but if it is factual and recent

> -- I should have been able to confirm it on the web. Thank

> you.M.P.

>

November 5, 2006

Ummm. Forward this to M.P., Lynn.

Why do we care what this person believes? Are they in a position to

change the outcome for this 10 year old? Why should this family " step

into public eye " to be ridiculed directly-in addition to anonimously?

Above all... I read this and fiction or not, I could fastforward 5

years and 100% see my son in the same circumstance, chain of events,

and outcome...which is why I am trying to get him Life skills, not

public acceptance-(Target article recently also got to me!).

Kalars69@... (Minneapolis,MN)

November 5, 2006

Re: e-mail from person who doubts truth of arrested child

My goodness, first of all, I read the scenario that transpired - a

child with an ASD arrested - and was both saddened and enraged by

the ordeal.

Then, to rub salt into the wound via reception of an email from a

person who doubts the truth! Though this is hurtful, I do hope it

will not be taken to heart for long. It illustrates ignorance on

their part on many levels, least of which that they must have

blinders on; placing far too much faith in systems (school and

government.)

It also demonstrates the differences in people; how we each react

and handle whatever life imposes upon us differently. The person who

wrote to you may very well have chose the media (for

justice/revenge; whatever their motive) had this situation occured

in their life, but that does not necessitate that everyone should

follow their belief.

From personal experience - albeit different circumstances - I can

assure you: The best interests of those who are most vulnerable are

not always the primary consideration, even amongst those in position

of trust. Cover-up can and DOES exist.

There have been others, whom I met, who have asked incredulously,

how (in my case) so much could have gone wrong and for so long

without resolution? There are no concrete answers forthcoming;

perhaps because I am not a vengeful person I chose to fight for what

I knew to be right through other means; avoiding media attention.

Were I to step forward to the media, there would literally be chaos!

I choose not to, at least at this point, because instead I find

myself in a more important position: HOPEFULLY, I can fascilitate

change in legislation that will serve others beyond me. (I realize

that I am talking in circles, which I am sorry for, but) I wanted to

assure you that I believe.

Also, that I am sorry for the trials you have encountered. May you

overcome this and be more strong for it!

Blessings,

Velvet

>

> Hi,

> I received e-mail from person who wrote to me after I posted in my

> hometown asa support group the info on the arrested child.

> Here is the msg.

> Would someone address this issue please?

> Lynn ---

> 1st msg:

> " Forgive me for being suspicious by nature, but I " googled " your

story

> on the web and in the news. Know what? I can't find anything which

> even vaguely resembles it. A " 10 year old autistic arrested at

> school " had to have made the news. So where is the news article

> recounting it? I checked a Indianapolis TV station and I couldn't

> find it. I hate to say it, but unless I can find something to

confirm

> it, I suspect your aspergers post is a piece of well written

fiction.

> Is there any way to track down its source from your end?

Shouldn't

> we be able to confirm it from our from one of our Autism support

> groups in Indiana? If it is true -- we have another reason to be

> concerned about school and police authorities -- but if someone is

> writing fiction as though it was fact just to enrage us, all of us

> have to be twice as careful before share more " stories of

injustice. "

> M. P.

> ---------------------------------------------------

> 2nd msg:

> I did note that you had gotten your post from an Asperger's site.

I

> don't doubt that most messages and stories shared by people who are

> concerned with children or family members who have autism are

indeed

> true. The story you shared might also be true.

> Certainly I believe that you would not have shared it if you knew

it

> was not true. It just seems to me we live in a time where stories

of

> injustice (particularly concerning " special needs " people) are

given

> considerable press. A 10 year old autistic child who is arrested

as

> your article described would have demanded space in any local paper

> and at least several seconds on the local nightly news. It would

not

> surprise me however if a national news organization got involved.

I

> can tell you if my autistic child were arrested unjustly I would

have

> demanded a press conference or at least an interview with a

> journalist. This kind of story simply has to be reported. The

public

> needs to know when such things happen. Perhaps your post is an old

> one -- or perhaps it is ficticious -- but if it is factual and

recent

> -- I should have been able to confirm it on the web. Thank

> you.M.P.

>

November 5, 2006

P.S. My appologies, I see as I backtrack that it is not Lynn whose

child went through the ordeal, but Sherry. I have followed the thread,

but neglected to look more closely at the names.

Again, my thoughts are with you!

November 5, 2006

I thought I read something stating that the parents didn't want to go to the

media to protect their son. they said he's been through enough and didn't want

to put him through more.

suetois <suetois@...> wrote: I personally know a 10-year-old child

with AS who was arrested for making a scene at

school. It does happen--more than it ought to. And it didn't make the papers

that time

either. Parents are so busy dealing with the arrest that they don't bring in the

media, and

the school certainly isn't going to do it. For that matter, I'm not positive the

media would