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Unfortunately, I never said you should go to Disney to teach your kids how to wait in line.

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How did you get the guest assistance passes? We are going to Disney in 2 & 1/2 weeks with my in-laws and I would be much relieved if I could have those in hand

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Oh yes. My mother has been fabulously supportive, but my brother and my father thought I was exaggerating things for years, that my son was just "spoiled." Funny, because my brother is almost identical to my son, but was only diagnosed with auditory processing disorders. My MIL kept telling me I was expecting too much from my child, and my father in law avoids us at all costs since the diagnosis, but even before when we'd talk about sensory issues, he'd look the other way and make a face that suggested I was talking a bunch of nonsense.I remember going to Disney last year, on a trip my parents insisted on taking us on, even though I wasn't sure Dylan was ready for it. (He was 5 1/2) Thank goodness, it was like heaven for him, but only because of those lovely Guest Assistance passes that avoided much of the lines. My father and brother refused to use them with us, and when they'd ride with him, they'd make him stand in line. Long story short, after two days and several meltdowns (solved by a quick spin on the teacups!) they "got it" and are now extremely supportive.For those with auditory processing issues, there's a great website out there that reads the tale of Little Red Riding Hood from their perspective, with the words all garbled, and how the tale sounds horribly different. Wonderful example of how these kids live life! T.Little Miss Know it Allhttp://truthinpolitics.contentquake.com>> I have had problems with other members of the family (in-laws) that > just don't get it and are less than useful let's just say. I feel if > my son was more severe and obvious they would be more understanding. > Just to note I am very grateful that he isn't more severe but it would > be nice to have a little more back up with close family. Anyone out > there in the same situation?>

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Really? Not here at Disney, at least not anymore, as recently as just

last month.

Roxanna wrote:

You can get

as many fast passes as you can grab. Nobody stands there and prevents

people from taking a pass.

Roxanna

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From:

Donna

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Monday, May 21, 2007 3:30 PM

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The only problem with the Fastpass is that you are only allowed

a few a day -- four now, I think? With the Guest Assistance Pass, you

can do that many rides in an hour. (And sometimes Fastpass is still a

pretty long wait.)

Roxanna wrote:

We went

a few years ago now to Disney. We didn't use the disability pass.

Instead, they have a great program in place called something like,

"Fast Pass." It's for everyone. You can get a ticket with a time

stamp on it and then you come back at that time. There is a shorter

line and you get on before the people standing in the "regular" line.

This worked out great. Plus, the kids learned that waiting is part of

the deal.

Roxanna

Autism Happens

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Todd

Kotler

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:17 AM

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RE: ( ) Disney Guest Assistance Pass

Thanks!!!

Very truly yours;

Todd B. Kotler

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members

Oh yes. My mother has been fabulously supportive, but

my brother and

my father thought I was exaggerating things for years, that my son was

just "spoiled." Funny, because my brother is almost identical to my

son, but was only diagnosed with auditory processing disorders. My

MIL kept telling me I was expecting too much from my child, and my

father in law avoids us at all costs since the diagnosis, but even

before when we'd talk about sensory issues, he'd look the other way

and make a face that suggested I was talking a bunch of nonsense.

I remember going to Disney last year, on a trip my parents insisted on

taking us on, even though I wasn't sure Dylan was ready for it. (He

was 5 1/2) Thank goodness, it was like heaven for him, but only

because of those lovely Guest Assistance passes that avoided much of

the lines. My father and brother refused to use them with us, and

when they'd ride with him, they'd make him stand in line. Long story

short, after two days and several meltdowns (solved by a quick spin on

the teacups!) they "got it" and are now extremely supportive.

For those with auditory processing issues, there's a great website out

there that reads the tale of Little Red Riding Hood from their

perspective, with the words all garbled, and how the tale sounds

horribly different. Wonderful example of how these kids live life!

T.

Little Miss Know it All

http://truthinpolitics.contentquake.com

>

> I have had problems with other members of the family (in-laws)

that

> just don't get it and are less than useful let's just say. I feel

if

> my son was more severe and obvious they would be more

understanding.

> Just to note I am very grateful that he isn't more severe but it

would

> be nice to have a little more back up with close family. Anyone

out

> there in the same situation?

>

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Did someone say you did? I didn't say that. (Nor did I say you coined

the phrase "magically," I was just repeating what I saw.) I also did

apologize later on as my comment didn't seem to fit once I read your

last one, but I didn't see your reply to that, guess there wasn't one.

I think this thread 'spiraled' because people are responding in the

same manner to which they were responded to. Different people have

different thoughts and actions and both sides need to be respected

rather than questioned.

Roxanna wrote:

Unfortunately,

I never said you should go to Disney to teach your kids how to wait in

line.

Roxanna

Autism Happens

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Donna

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Monday, May 21, 2007 3:33 PM

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I used to think the same thing, but my thought is that kids have

plenty of time to learn to wait in lines, it shouldn't have to be at a

fun place like Disneyland. (Just my thoughts, as I do not have a child

who can wait...and I mean "can," not "will.")

If your kids *will* wait without banging their head or having such a

severe meltdown that the trip is no longer fun nor worth the money,

you're fortunate.

We introduce waiting in little bits, but we have to pick and choose our

places. Sometimes on slow days, a regular line works as a good starter

but only so many a day and we're done.

Roxanna wrote:

Wow, we

never had long lines anywhere - we went in November. I just think a

lot of kids can wait for things. We walked right in to see Mickey

Mouse, a wait of maybe 2 minutes as they snapped pictures with the

previous people. The bigger problem was getting the kids to go near

him. They were afraid.

But they

also learned to wait for the rides that did have waiting involved.

Sometimes that is life.

Roxanna

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Mills

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:04 AM

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( ) Disney Guest Assistance Pass

The guest assistance pass doesn't eliminate waits...it

just minimizes it and also sometimes allows for a different waiting

area where it's OK to move around a bit. You can still use the Fast

Pass, but they don't have the Fast Pass for all of the rides. We

started getting Fast Pass appointments (usually you have to go back

with 45 minutes to 1 hr), but the people working the rides told us that

was un-necessary and let us right into the Fast Pass line without an

appointment. We still had to wait in the Fast Pass line (no skipping

to the front), but that was not usually overwhelming.

Also, the line for character visits in Feb was over 1

hour...can't imagine what it would be now. With the guest assistance

pass they let us go to a room with only a few people were we could wait

for about 30 minutes, then they took us into the room with the

characters. We never would have been able to see the characters if it

weren't for this. Also, many of the rides without the Fast Pass can

have 30+ minute waits...in the low season...my son couldn't do that.

You can just go to the area where the guests are exiting the rides,

then the person working the ride will have you wait 5 - 10 minutes then

will let you on.

We planned our trip during low season to avoid the crowds,

but still found the Fast Pass an immense help!

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Roxanna

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:32 AM

Subject:

Re: ( ) Disney Guest Assistance Pass

We

went a few years ago now to Disney. We didn't use the disability

pass. Instead, they have a great program in place called something

like, "Fast Pass." It's for everyone. You can get a ticket with a

time stamp on it and then you come back at that time. There is a

shorter line and you get on before the people standing in the "regular"

line. This worked out great. Plus, the kids learned that waiting is

part of the deal.

Roxanna

Autism Happens

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From:

Todd Kotler

To:

Sent:

Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:17 AM

Subject:

RE: ( ) Disney Guest Assistance Pass

Thanks!!!

Very truly yours;

Todd B. Kotler

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members

Oh yes. My mother has been fabulously supportive,

but my brother and

my father thought I was exaggerating things for years, that my son was

just "spoiled." Funny, because my brother is almost identical to my

son, but was only diagnosed with auditory processing disorders. My

MIL kept telling me I was expecting too much from my child, and my

father in law avoids us at all costs since the diagnosis, but even

before when we'd talk about sensory issues, he'd look the other way

and make a face that suggested I was talking a bunch of nonsense.

I remember going to Disney last year, on a trip my parents insisted on

taking us on, even though I wasn't sure Dylan was ready for it. (He

was 5 1/2) Thank goodness, it was like heaven for him, but only

because of those lovely Guest Assistance passes that avoided much of

the lines. My father and brother refused to use them with us, and

when they'd ride with him, they'd make him stand in line. Long story

short, after two days and several meltdowns (solved by a quick spin on

the teacups!) they "got it" and are now extremely supportive.

For those with auditory processing issues, there's a great website out

there that reads the tale of Little Red Riding Hood from their

perspective, with the words all garbled, and how the tale sounds

horribly different. Wonderful example of how these kids live life!

T.

Little Miss Know it All

http://truthinpolitics.contentquake.com

>

> I have had problems with other members of the family (in-laws)

that

> just don't get it and are less than useful let's just say. I feel

if

> my son was more severe and obvious they would be more

understanding.

> Just to note I am very grateful that he isn't more severe but it

would

> be nice to have a little more back up with close family. Anyone

out

> there in the same situation?

>

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We are scheduled to got to Orlando in early June. I thought about

Disney parks ( what's a trip to Orlando w/o Disney ?? ),but 2 years

ago DS hated it. The lines were an issue of course.

Being I will be paying $10,000 this next school year for a private

special needs ASD/ADD school, we've decided to just hang out at the

resort we are staying at anyway and forego Disney this trip. $$$ an

issue for me this time. 10 yo AS DS is just not too " stable " right now

and I could just see the line-waiting issues, heat, crowds,

overstimulation and his constant hunger being HUGE issues.

Maybe the Guest Assistance Pass for another trip, and we will stick to

the Orlando Science Center- he loved the hands on there last trip.

Nice Orlando Disney alternative.

Kim

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Maybe you could read your post and use the information yourself. And yes, you just did say that about going to disney to learn to wait in line. Since I'm the only person who didn't agree with using the disability pass and the only one who said kids have to learn to wait, you would be discussing what I said.

I have a different opinion than others which doesn't bother me in the least and it's certainly not the first time. What does cause a problem is having people mangle what I meant, which is what I see happening. Most people are now replying to this post and saying (does everyone have the same script?) that they would not take their kid to disney to teach them how to wait in line. Well, neither would I. The only original response was the smarty posting that we could teach them how to wait at the grocery store at 6 pm, also not what I said or meant but if any more sarcasm shows up, we can make a bonfire and it will explode poop all over us. So the next post I saw with this same reply, I decided to let people know that isn't what I said, nor was it the point to what I said. And now we know everyone agrees not to go to Disney to teach your kid how to wait in line. Whew. Glad that is over with.

I will reply to posts as I get to them and if I think I can contribute more to the discussion. Otherwise, I don't. I'm sad to know this has bothered you.

RoxannaAutism Happens

RE: ( ) Re: Other family members

How did you get the guest assistance passes? We are going to Disney in 2 & 1/2 weeks with my in-laws and I would be much relieved if I could have those in hand

Very truly yours; Todd B. KotlerDISCLAIMERThis e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of T.Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: ( ) Re: Other family members

Oh yes. My mother has been fabulously supportive, but my brother and my father thought I was exaggerating things for years, that my son was just "spoiled." Funny, because my brother is almost identical to my son, but was only diagnosed with auditory processing disorders. My MIL kept telling me I was expecting too much from my child, and my father in law avoids us at all costs since the diagnosis, but even before when we'd talk about sensory issues, he'd look the other way and make a face that suggested I was talking a bunch of nonsense.I remember going to Disney last year, on a trip my parents insisted on taking us on, even though I wasn't sure Dylan was ready for it. (He was 5 1/2) Thank goodness, it was like heaven for him, but only because of those lovely Guest Assistance passes that avoided much of the lines. My father and brother refused to use them with us, and when they'd ride with him, they'd make him stand in line. Long story short, after two days and several meltdowns (solved by a quick spin on the teacups!) they "got it" and are now extremely supportive.For those with auditory processing issues, there's a great website out there that reads the tale of Little Red Riding Hood from their perspective, with the words all garbled, and how the tale sounds horribly different. Wonderful example of how these kids live life! T.Little Miss Know it Allhttp://truthinpolitics.contentquake.com>> I have had problems with other members of the family (in-laws) that > just don't get it and are less than useful let's just say. I feel if > my son was more severe and obvious they would be more understanding. > Just to note I am very grateful that he isn't more severe but it would > be nice to have a little more back up with close family. Anyone out > there in the same situation?>

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So now, they post people at all rides to specifically guard their fast pass machines? And how will they know one person has a fast pass from other rides in their possession? They would never know that. So no, I don't think they do that.

RoxannaAutism Happens

RE: ( ) Re: Other family members

How did you get the guest assistance passes? We are going to Disney in 2 & 1/2 weeks with my in-laws and I would be much relieved if I could have those in hand

Very truly yours; Todd B. KotlerDISCLAIMERThis e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of T.Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: ( ) Re: Other family members

Oh yes. My mother has been fabulously supportive, but my brother and my father thought I was exaggerating things for years, that my son was just "spoiled." Funny, because my brother is almost identical to my son, but was only diagnosed with auditory processing disorders. My MIL kept telling me I was expecting too much from my child, and my father in law avoids us at all costs since the diagnosis, but even before when we'd talk about sensory issues, he'd look the other way and make a face that suggested I was talking a bunch of nonsense.I remember going to Disney last year, on a trip my parents insisted on taking us on, even though I wasn't sure Dylan was ready for it. (He was 5 1/2) Thank goodness, it was like heaven for him, but only because of those lovely Guest Assistance passes that avoided much of the lines. My father and brother refused to use them with us, and when they'd ride with him, they'd make him stand in line. Long story short, after two days and several meltdowns (solved by a quick spin on the teacups!) they "got it" and are now extremely supportive.For those with auditory processing issues, there's a great website out there that reads the tale of Little Red Riding Hood from their perspective, with the words all garbled, and how the tale sounds horribly different. Wonderful example of how these kids live life! T.Little Miss Know it Allhttp://truthinpolitics.contentquake.com>> I have had problems with other members of the family (in-laws) that > just don't get it and are less than useful let's just say. I feel if > my son was more severe and obvious they would be more understanding. > Just to note I am very grateful that he isn't more severe but it would > be nice to have a little more back up with close family. Anyone out > there in the same situation?>

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You have to insert your ticket into the fast pass machine to get your fast pass ticket. Your ticket is how they identify you and their machines are networked...that's how they know how many fast pass tickets you've gotten. You also have to insert your ticket into their machine when you first enter the park...important so that people that didn’t buy park hopper passes can't cheat.

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How did you get the guest assistance passes? We are going to Disney in 2 & 1/2 weeks with my in-laws and I would be much relieved if I could have those in hand

Very truly yours; Todd B. KotlerDISCLAIMERThis e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of T.Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: ( ) Re: Other family members

Oh yes. My mother has been fabulously supportive, but my brother and my father thought I was exaggerating things for years, that my son was just "spoiled." Funny, because my brother is almost identical to my son, but was only diagnosed with auditory processing disorders. My MIL kept telling me I was expecting too much from my child, and my father in law avoids us at all costs since the diagnosis, but even before when we'd talk about sensory issues, he'd look the other way and make a face that suggested I was talking a bunch of nonsense.I remember going to Disney last year, on a trip my parents insisted on taking us on, even though I wasn't sure Dylan was ready for it. (He was 5 1/2) Thank goodness, it was like heaven for him, but only because of those lovely Guest Assistance passes that avoided much of the lines. My father and brother refused to use them with us, and when they'd ride with him, they'd make him stand in line. Long story short, after two days and several meltdowns (solved by a quick spin on the teacups!) they "got it" and are now extremely supportive.For those with auditory processing issues, there's a great website out there that reads the tale of Little Red Riding Hood from their perspective, with the words all garbled, and how the tale sounds horribly different. Wonderful example of how these kids live life! T.Little Miss Know it Allhttp://truthinpolitics.contentquake.com>> I have had problems with other members of the family (in-laws) that > just don't get it and are less than useful let's just say. I feel if > my son was more severe and obvious they would be more understanding. > Just to note I am very grateful that he isn't more severe but it would > be nice to have a little more back up with close family. Anyone out > there in the same situation?>

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Ahhh, you are right . Sorry, I didn't remember that part.

RoxannaAutism Happens

RE: ( ) Re: Other family members

How did you get the guest assistance passes? We are going to Disney in 2 & 1/2 weeks with my in-laws and I would be much relieved if I could have those in hand

Very truly yours; Todd B. KotlerDISCLAIMERThis e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of T.Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: ( ) Re: Other family members

Oh yes. My mother has been fabulously supportive, but my brother and my father thought I was exaggerating things for years, that my son was just "spoiled." Funny, because my brother is almost identical to my son, but was only diagnosed with auditory processing disorders. My MIL kept telling me I was expecting too much from my child, and my father in law avoids us at all costs since the diagnosis, but even before when we'd talk about sensory issues, he'd look the other way and make a face that suggested I was talking a bunch of nonsense.I remember going to Disney last year, on a trip my parents insisted on taking us on, even though I wasn't sure Dylan was ready for it. (He was 5 1/2) Thank goodness, it was like heaven for him, but only because of those lovely Guest Assistance passes that avoided much of the lines. My father and brother refused to use them with us, and when they'd ride with him, they'd make him stand in line. Long story short, after two days and several meltdowns (solved by a quick spin on the teacups!) they "got it" and are now extremely supportive.For those with auditory processing issues, there's a great website out there that reads the tale of Little Red Riding Hood from their perspective, with the words all garbled, and how the tale sounds horribly different. Wonderful example of how these kids live life! T.Little Miss Know it Allhttp://truthinpolitics.contentquake.com>> I have had problems with other members of the family (in-laws) that > just don't get it and are less than useful let's just say. I feel if > my son was more severe and obvious they would be more understanding. > Just to note I am very grateful that he isn't more severe but it would > be nice to have a little more back up with close family. Anyone out > there in the same situation?>

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I remember reading right before we went last year that they are updating their fastpass system, or at least have patented the new one for testing and use.  It was going to allow those who stay in the park hotels to reserve fastpasses from their hotel rooms, using the remote on their tv.  And those who stayed in more expensive hotels, had the option of having more than one fastpass per hour. 

Many amusement parks have fastpasses and disability passes--just ask before you go.

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