Re: Flu shot question?????

[Guest guest]

FYI

The flu shot is one of the last remaining vaccines that contain thimerosol

(mercury) as a preservative. Some people believe that mercury is the toxin

that causes autism.

Please note that I am just passing this information on. I am not posting

this information to start a debate on the causation of autism but rather as one

more piece of information so that parents can make an informed decision.

Connie Ajay

[Guest guest]

I would ask your doctor. My son gets the flu shot because he has really bad

asthma that flares most of the winter. The flu throws him into a really bad

asthma flare that is hard to control. If we can help him in the smallest

bit, we do. My middle child, oldest daughter (aspie with many medical

issues) does not get the flu shot because she is allergic to it. She reacts

to the egg in it. This is my child who can't eat any food what so ever,

lives on a g-tube, can't have basic things like children's tylenol or

pedialyte and gets second degree burns from bandaids. Like I said, she

doesn't get the flu shot. My youngest daughter also does not get the flu

shot. She is very healthy, yet a tiny four year old. The pediatrician said

it's unnecessary for her. Personally I can't have the flu shot because my

doctor said it isn't advised for people with more than one autoimmune

disease. My husband doesn't get it because he hates needles. It's very

individual. What does the doctor recommend?

Stef

( ) Flu shot question?????

are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been getting e-

mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the flu

shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank you

[Guest guest]

No, there is still thermisol in the shot. My daughter is already

mercury toxic.

>

> are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been getting

e-

> mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the flu

> shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank you

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I'm sorry you have so many challenges with many medicial conditions. that

must be so hard. I pray everyone stays healthy and doesn't catch the flu. I

was asking about the flu shot wondering if they changed any ingredient, that

would be any concerns, like there are with vaccines. Thanks for responding.

B Price <romans8@...> wrote:

I would ask your doctor. My son gets the flu shot because he has

really bad

asthma that flares most of the winter. The flu throws him into a really bad

asthma flare that is hard to control. If we can help him in the smallest

bit, we do. My middle child, oldest daughter (aspie with many medical

issues) does not get the flu shot because she is allergic to it. She reacts

to the egg in it. This is my child who can't eat any food what so ever,

lives on a g-tube, can't have basic things like children's tylenol or

pedialyte and gets second degree burns from bandaids. Like I said, she

doesn't get the flu shot. My youngest daughter also does not get the flu

shot. She is very healthy, yet a tiny four year old. The pediatrician said

it's unnecessary for her. Personally I can't have the flu shot because my

doctor said it isn't advised for people with more than one autoimmune

disease. My husband doesn't get it because he hates needles. It's very

individual. What does the doctor recommend?

Stef

( ) Flu shot question?????

are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been getting e-

mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the flu

shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank you

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[Guest guest]

That is what I am trying to find out. This exact answer that you just posted.

I have another question. If you feel this might start a debate on this site,

you can e-mail me direct. I've read debates on this site before and I also

don't want to start another one. My question is: Now that my kids are older,

does the thimerosol in the flu shot still matter? Also, does getting the flu

shot lower the immunity for our bodies to fight off colds and flu on its own?

Thanks again for your opinion

Belt3@... wrote: FYI

The flu shot is one of the last remaining vaccines that contain thimerosol

(mercury) as a preservative. Some people believe that mercury is the toxin

that causes autism.

Please note that I am just passing this information on. I am not posting

this information to start a debate on the causation of autism but rather as one

more piece of information so that parents can make an informed decision.

Connie Ajay

[Guest guest]

someone just posted that there is a phone number you can call to see or order a

flu shot without the " thermisol " . would that be a help for you?

jennifer_thorson <jennifer_thorson@...> wrote: No, there is still

thermisol in the shot. My daughter is already

mercury toxic.

>

> are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been getting

e-

> mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the flu

> shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank you

>

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[Guest guest]

No, none of us will ever get the flu shot (or other vaccines) again.

My sons and I are in the high risk category and are supposed to get

one each year. Both of my sons have severe allergies, my youngest has

asthma and I am a diabetic and have asthma. I used to make sure we all

had our shots every year and we were constantly sick throughout the

year. If we were around anyone with a virus or bacterial infection, we

got it too. Now, we have only been sick a couple of times in the last

5 years and it didn't require any antibiotics- we really didn't notice

being sick too much. Our asthma has improved also, probably because

when an asthmatic is sick, it makes the asthma act up even more than

usual.

That's just our experience and my 2 cents worth.

- :-)

>

> are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been getting

e-

> mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the flu

> shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank you

>

[Guest guest]

My personal opinion is that it does lower our natural immunity to

fight off colds and the flu. I think any level of thimerosol

regardless of age is bad for you.

These are my own opinios and I am not trying to force anyone to

believe the way I do.

- :-)

FYI

>

> The flu shot is one of the last remaining vaccines that contain

thimerosol

> (mercury) as a preservative. Some people believe that mercury is

the toxin

> that causes autism.

>

> Please note that I am just passing this information on. I am not

posting

> this information to start a debate on the causation of autism but

rather as one

> more piece of information so that parents can make an informed

decision.

>

> Connie Ajay

>

>

[Guest guest]

I won't be doing the flu shot. The one time I had the flu shot, I got

the flu from it and I was miserable. Without any shot, I have only had

the flu probably 2 times in my entire life. I am not going to risk

getting the flu from the shot, and the mercury in the shots is a big

concern for me. They decided that the mercury was a bad thing so they

are not continuing to use it in new vaccines, but the drug companies

have permission to use up the supply they already have because of the

impact it would have on them financially to destroy the current

supply. (Poor drug companies, barely scraping by...) So, it's hard to

know if your doctor's office has some of the ones with mercury or not.

Many doctors probably don't even know themselves.

>

> are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been getting e-

> mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the flu

> shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank you

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. from all the responses I've been getting, it seems like its a personal

choice between " which is worst " : the actual thimerosol verses the flu itself.

<ablessedfamily@...> wrote: My personal opinion is that it

does lower our natural immunity to

fight off colds and the flu. I think any level of thimerosol

regardless of age is bad for you.

These are my own opinios and I am not trying to force anyone to

believe the way I do.

- :-)

FYI

>

> The flu shot is one of the last remaining vaccines that contain

thimerosol

> (mercury) as a preservative. Some people believe that mercury is

the toxin

> that causes autism.

>

> Please note that I am just passing this information on. I am not

posting

> this information to start a debate on the causation of autism but

rather as one

> more piece of information so that parents can make an informed

decision.

>

> Connie Ajay

>

>

[Guest guest]

No flu shot for us. Flumist has:

Each 0.5 mL FluMist dose contains the flu strains recommended by the

U.S. Public

Health Service for the 2005–2006 flu season:

A/New Caledonia/20/99 (H1N1),

(B/Shanghai/361/2002-like) viruses. Inactive ingredients include egg

allantoic fluid,

sucrose, potassium phosphate, monosodium glutamate (MSG) and

gentamicin sulfate.

FluMist does not contain preservatives.

http://www.flumist.com/pdf/patientinfo.pdf

I guess I am just not into having 'inactive' ingredients put into

the body like that, but to each their own.

Only you the parent can decide what is in the best interest of your

family - not your friends nor family, and not even your doctor -

think about those poor people who were prescribed Vioxx - the

doctors never had a clue they were going to hurt somebody.

It behooves all of us to research this stuff and make a decision on

our own.

>

> are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been

getting e-

> mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the

flu

> shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank

you

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

this Flumist has no mercury in it. Have you take this before? That is why I

asked my question about the flu shot. I didn't know there was anything else we

can take to help fight the flu. thanks for posting. I'm going to find out more

about this flumist. I bet its hard to get or insurance doesn't pay for it.

LJL <laura6307@...> wrote:

No flu shot for us. Flumist has:

Each 0.5 mL FluMist dose contains the flu strains recommended by the

U.S. Public

Health Service for the 2005–2006 flu season:

A/New Caledonia/20/99 (H1N1),

(B/Shanghai/361/2002-like) viruses. Inactive ingredients include egg

allantoic fluid,

sucrose, potassium phosphate, monosodium glutamate (MSG) and

gentamicin sulfate.

FluMist does not contain preservatives.

http://www.flumist.com/pdf/patientinfo.pdf

I guess I am just not into having 'inactive' ingredients put into

the body like that, but to each their own.

Only you the parent can decide what is in the best interest of your

family - not your friends nor family, and not even your doctor -

think about those poor people who were prescribed Vioxx - the

doctors never had a clue they were going to hurt somebody.

It behooves all of us to research this stuff and make a decision on

our own.

>

> are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been

getting e-

> mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the

flu

> shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank

you

>

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[Guest guest]

Flu shots do not have thermosil added but the tanks are cleaned with

thermosil. So it would not be in the ingredients list.

> >

> > are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been

> getting e-

> > mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the

> flu

> > shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> > decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank

> you

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Until they find another way to clean between batches without using

thermosil, then it is still there in trace amounts. To most

children this is not a problem but I believe it is a problem for

most children with autism. They sell them as thermosil free but they

are not. I believe that leads a lot of well meaning parents down

the wrong road. My daughter has mercury poisoning now and I am

going to spend up to two years removing it and hoping that most of

the damage can be repaired. On that note, the 3 days we did

chelation this week we the best days I have had with my daughter.

Then as the mercury has resettled she has started to regress. But I

need to give her time off the chelator to allow her body to rest.

But I have seen the real child in her.

For me I am taking a natural approach to everything now. I am

supplementing to help her fight off viruses. But if she gets sick

than I will deal with it. For me the risk of increasing toxins in

her body is worse than the flu. Plus the flu shot is not a ticket

to a healthy winter.

Jen

> >

> > are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been

getting

> e-

> > mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the

flu

> > shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> > decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank

you

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm glad your having great progress with your daughter and I pray it

continues. When I was a child, we never heard of mercury being in anything.

Now, its such a concern in everything. at price chopper, while waiting for my

order at the fish section. they have a book explaining all different types of

fish. they even had a chart that explained the mercury level some fish have.

If your watching your daughters mercury intake. I'm sure you already know about

some of the foods too. thank you - Hugs to you

jennifer_thorson <jennifer_thorson@...> wrote:

Until they find another way to clean between batches without using

thermosil, then it is still there in trace amounts. To most

children this is not a problem but I believe it is a problem for

most children with autism. They sell them as thermosil free but they

are not. I believe that leads a lot of well meaning parents down

the wrong road. My daughter has mercury poisoning now and I am

going to spend up to two years removing it and hoping that most of

the damage can be repaired. On that note, the 3 days we did

chelation this week we the best days I have had with my daughter.

Then as the mercury has resettled she has started to regress. But I

need to give her time off the chelator to allow her body to rest.

But I have seen the real child in her.

For me I am taking a natural approach to everything now. I am

supplementing to help her fight off viruses. But if she gets sick

than I will deal with it. For me the risk of increasing toxins in

her body is worse than the flu. Plus the flu shot is not a ticket

to a healthy winter.

Jen

> >

> > are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been

getting

> e-

> > mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the

flu

> > shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> > decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank

you

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Everyone is raving about the all-new .

>

>

[Guest guest]

How do you know that? And can you show me where you found the information?

-- ( ) Re: Flu shot question?????

Flu shots do not have thermosil added but the tanks are cleaned with

thermosil. So it would not be in the ingredients list.

> >

> > are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been

> getting e-

> > mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the

> flu

> > shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> > decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank

> you

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

No thimerosal in it - I don't think kids younger than five can get

it, though.

> >

> > are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been

> getting e-

> > mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the

> flu

> > shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> > decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank

> you

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

People will say not to because there is thimerosal in it. I never have given my

kids a flu shot but it is just because we've never done it and not because of

any controversy.

Roxanna

( ) Flu shot question?????

are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been getting e-

mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the flu

shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank you

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Thanks Roxanna, I hope you all have a healthy and flu free winter.

Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote: People will say not to

because there is thimerosal in it. I never have given my kids a flu shot but it

is just because we've never done it and not because of any controversy.

Roxanna

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shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank you

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[Guest guest]

There is a ton of information on the Autism/Mercury forum. I joined

only to get information about autism from all viewpoints. But the

more I read, the more I started to see that vaccines could be the

cause. Now I am not a 100% believer, but I have opened my eyes and

changed my direction with the info I have gained. I would never have

thought that my daughter had mercury poisoning, but I did a hair test

and found she has a high probability of mercury poisoning. The only

source I know of is from the vaccines. I believe there are other

genetic forces at work, but I am not vaccinating anymore.

Jen

-- In , " " <cmcintosh5@...> wrote:

>

> How do you know that? And can you show me where you found the

information?

>

> -- ( ) Re: Flu shot question?????

>

> Flu shots do not have thermosil added but the tanks are cleaned with

> thermosil. So it would not be in the ingredients list.

>

>

> > >

> > > are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been

> > getting e-

> > > mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the

> > flu

> > > shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> > > decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank

> > you

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

We are chelating with ALA so it is important to remove all sources of

new mercury. My daughter has never liked seafood so that is not a

problem.

> > >

> > > are you giving your child the flu shot this year? I've been

> getting

> > e-

> > > mail from other support servicers saying: if you can avoid the

> flu

> > > shot, to avoid it. so, now its flu season and just asking if you

> > > decided to give the shot or avoid it this year. And why? thank

> you

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Everyone is raving about the all-new .

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