RE: One question on losing recess

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LOL What a cute story LOL.. Never argue with an aspie or a two year old..

You'll loose every time LOL

I saw a button at buttons and more.. That said.. " not all autistics don't

talk... Some... NEVER SHUT UP " LOL.. I love it !!

Sounds just like my son!

-- Re: ( ) One question on losing recess

I lurk but haven't posted in a long time. I just wanted to put in my two

cents about the whole recess thing. My son is an arguer. He hates being

told he is doing anything wrong. He argues that he's right and the rules

should be changed to fit his needs. has had the same teacher for 2

years and she got tired of " the lawyer syndrome " so when he would argue with

her she would tell him I don't have time for this now but if you want to

argue with me we can do it at recess time. This is hard on her too since

that is her lunch break. After missing recess a few times he stopped. Now it

was physically hard on him not to have that release at recess but it worked.

She would send him on errands if he got antsy in the afternoon so he could

get out of class. It isn't always a bad thing to take away a child's recess

time!

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Glad I could help.

>>> beachbodytan2002@... 5/8/2006 9:57 AM >>>

Hi ,

That is the exact wording I was looking for.... I just noted this

down, it is perfect. the first part " no more than a certain amount of

time (10 minutes) is great. but not the whole loss of recess for the

social skills is part of the aspergers disability. As far as fighting

for this, I will, CSE is aware of this. its the teacher that has her

own rules. CSE explained that the part between me and the teacher needs

to be addressed with Administration and not CSE.

Van Atta <svanatta@...> wrote:

You can have it put into the IEP that he will loose no more than a

certain amount of time (10 minutes) of his recess. This would be

under

the socials skills part of the IEP. Since social skills is part of

the

Asperger's disability, there should be a section for that on the IEP.

You'll have to fight for it thought.

>>> madideas@... 5/6/2006 9:05 AM >>>

Subject: ( ) One question on losing recess

Hello everyone,

I know we already spoke some on this topic. but I have a question.

My son forgot his homework home the other day, so the teacher kept him

in during recess time to complete it. (math) it took him his whole

recess time to complete it. the teacher said, its finished, now you

can go out to recess. well, by the time he got outside, it was line

up time to go back in. My question is. can a teacher keep a child in

for the whole recess time? We live in NY. isn't recess a

requirement?

*****I suppose I would try to figure out why he is forgetting his

homework.

Did he forget to do it or to bring it to school? Forgetting to bring

books

and papers home or forgetting turn those papers in at school can be a

common

problem that needs solutions and not punishment. From experience on

my

end,

I know that there can be a host of problems just to do this " simple "

task!

My older ds would even sit in class and not process that he was

supposed to

be turning in his homework paper. The phrase, " Pass your homework to

the

front " did not apply to him personally. Lol. We had to work on that

one

differently than punishing him.

He also had a really horrible time with memory as well - both short

and

long

term scores were all terrible and at the bottom! So this also

contributed

to problems he had with organizational skills. He had to have the

help

and

structure built in for him. Now he does better but it's still

difficult for

him to remember. And worse, he won't use an agenda because he feels

he

can

remember on his own -which he can't!

My other one forgets homework because he is so done with school and

doesn't

feel he should have to do more school when he gets home. In some

ways,

I

tend to agree because he's held himself together and he's really in

need of

release when he gets home! It is really hard to get him to sit and do

work

and I will only go so far with it. He does not mind if he has to stay

in at

recess either. And at times the teacher lets him turn his work in one

day

later for a grade lower instead of missing recess. I feel these are

acceptable natural consequences for him. But if it were my older ds,

I

would not find these acceptable due to his specific problems.

In this way, I think you have to evaluate the problems of the child,

the

reason(s) things are not working and try to find an acceptable method

of

fixing the problem. There are times when the usual punishment does

not

have

an effect of our kids. And if the problem is a result of lack of

skills in

organization or similar, then punishment will probably do more harm

and

nothing good. Without teaching the skills, the problem will never

resolve,

if it can be resolved.

Roxanna

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Subject: RE: ( ) One question on losing recess

Hi ,

That is the exact wording I was looking for.... I just noted this down,

it is perfect. the first part " no more than a certain amount of time (10

minutes) is great. but not the whole loss of recess for the social skills

is part of the aspergers disability. As far as fighting for this, I will,

CSE is aware of this. its the teacher that has her own rules. CSE

explained that the part between me and the teacher needs to be addressed

with Administration and not CSE.

I don't know who CSE is but if they need approval to provide an

accommodation, let them know to have this administrator present at the IEP

meeting so it can be discussed and written into the IEP then and there.

Roxanna

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Subject: Re: ( ) One question on losing recess

Hi ,

That's great you can communicate with the teacher. With my sons teacher,

if its about something my son can't do. she doesn't want to hear it!!! she

gets angry and yells. She is not the type of person to speak with parents.

our last conversation about an animal project he had to do, my son did more

then the teacher wanted and she started yelling at him. When I spoke to her

about it, she started yelling towards me and when she was finished venting

she said I don't want you to speak to me about your son without the guidance

councilor present. Outch

I would be dragging that counselor down there constantly because speaking to

the teacher about my concerns would be primary here. What is the school

policy on parent involvement? How awful for you to have to deal with

someone that obnoxious.

Roxanna

[Guest guest]

CSE/CPSE is where the whole team meets and we all do the IEP & set goals

together or add/take away services as needed. administration is usually

present. at our school, when a parent & teacher have a problem. The CSE office

doesn't get involved. they set up an appointment with the principal.

This teacher is kind of strange with me. her last yelling words to me was:

I'm not going to speak nor do I want you to speak with me unless the guidance

councilor is present! Well approx 3 weeks later after her explosion. she saw

me in the store, approached me like nothing ever happened and said hello, I

haven't seen you in such a long time, why? WOW, that kind of caught me off

guard, but I held my tongue back. I didn't want to set her off in the store.

LOL Its like this teacher has two personalities. I can't figure her out and

don't want to. can't wait till this year is over.

Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: ( ) One question on losing recess

Hi ,

That is the exact wording I was looking for.... I just noted this down,

it is perfect. the first part " no more than a certain amount of time (10

minutes) is great. but not the whole loss of recess for the social skills

is part of the aspergers disability. As far as fighting for this, I will,

CSE is aware of this. its the teacher that has her own rules. CSE

explained that the part between me and the teacher needs to be addressed

with Administration and not CSE.

I don't know who CSE is but if they need approval to provide an

accommodation, let them know to have this administrator present at the IEP

meeting so it can be discussed and written into the IEP then and there.

Roxanna