Re: Question about verbal communication

[Guest guest]

Hi!

What " they " say in the books is that kids with

Aspberger's don't have trouble with speech. But mine

had very garbled speech, and many others I've talked

to, their kids (with Aspberger's) had trouble with

speech as well. So, I don't know. I've never read

anything about speech trouble, but many, including me;

their kids have had it.

Hope this helps.

- Adrienne from Boston

--- sweeneyroche <sweeneyroche@...> wrote:

> Hello,

>

> My name is and I just join your group. I hope

> you can give me a

> hand. My son is 2 years 9 month old, I had seen a

> lot of Doctors, but

> only a few month ago I receveid an Asperger

> Diagnosys.

> One of the main issues of my son is the lack of

> speak, he dosen't

> talk. Is this a common syntom with AS kids.

>

> From Caracas-Venezuela

>

> TKS

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

" They " don't know what they're talking about. Both of my kids have been in

speech therapy for years. They both started saying momma and dadda at the

normal time, then backslid and were very late talkers. They are now 16 yo and

13 yo and still have problems. The only reason my 16 yo is no longer in speech

is because the therapist said that she's done all she can for him. This is as

good as it's gonna get. I can understand him most of the time, but people who

aren't around him alot have trouble understanding him.

Pat-Mom to Josh (16 AS) and Sara (13 AS)

Adrienne Lehmann <adriennerob@...> wrote:

Hi!

What " they " say in the books is that kids with

Aspberger's don't have trouble with speech. But mine

had very garbled speech, and many others I've talked

to, their kids (with Aspberger's) had trouble with

speech as well. So, I don't know. I've never read

anything about speech trouble, but many, including me;

their kids have had it.

Hope this helps.

- Adrienne from Boston

--- sweeneyroche <sweeneyroche@...> wrote:

> Hello,

>

> My name is and I just join your group. I hope

> you can give me a

> hand. My son is 2 years 9 month old, I had seen a

> lot of Doctors, but

> only a few month ago I receveid an Asperger

> Diagnosys.

> One of the main issues of my son is the lack of

> speak, he dosen't

> talk. Is this a common syntom with AS kids.

>

> From Caracas-Venezuela

>

> TKS

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm far from an expert, but do know that being nonverbal happens on

the autism spectrum.

Many kids will learn to use sign language and then also use other

communication devices to help.

Does he " babble " ? My twins (now 17, one with Aspergers) used to

talk but I called it " jibber-jabber " as you couldn't understand

them. Before age 3 they also were more prone to just point rather

than talk. They're both fine now (WAY before now, LOL).

>

> Hello,

>

> My name is and I just join your group. I hope you can give

me a

> hand. My son is 2 years 9 month old, I had seen a lot of Doctors,

but

> only a few month ago I receveid an Asperger Diagnosys.

> One of the main issues of my son is the lack of speak, he dosen't

> talk. Is this a common syntom with AS kids.

>

> From Caracas-Venezuela

>

> TKS

>

[Guest guest]

My son began speaking then completely stopped for two years. Our

pediatrician kept telling us not to worry that he would talk again

when he was ready. He did finally begin speaking again but it took 5

years of speech therapy to get back to almost normal. He has some

residual stuttering and stammering especially when he is nervous or

angry. Hang in there.

Mark in Tx

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > My name is and I just join your group. I hope you can give

> me a

> > hand. My son is 2 years 9 month old, I had seen a lot of

Doctors,

> but

> > only a few month ago I receveid an Asperger Diagnosys.

> > One of the main issues of my son is the lack of speak, he

dosen't

> > talk. Is this a common syntom with AS kids.

> >

> > From Caracas-Venezuela

> >

> > TKS

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What is the difference then with Aspergers and High Functioning Autism? Some

people say they are the same dx but others say they are different.

Beck

Re: ( ) Question about verbal communication

" They " don't know what they're talking about. Both of my kids have been in

speech therapy for years. They both started saying momma and dadda at the

normal time, then backslid and were very late talkers. They are now 16 yo and

13 yo and still have problems. The only reason my 16 yo is no longer in speech

is because the therapist said that she's done all she can for him. This is as

good as it's gonna get. I can understand him most of the time, but people who

aren't around him alot have trouble understanding him.

Pat-Mom to Josh (16 AS) and Sara (13 AS)

Adrienne Lehmann <adriennerob@...> wrote:

Hi!

What " they " say in the books is that kids with

Aspberger's don't have trouble with speech. But mine

had very garbled speech, and many others I've talked

to, their kids (with Aspberger's) had trouble with

speech as well. So, I don't know. I've never read

anything about speech trouble, but many, including me;

their kids have had it.

Hope this helps.

- Adrienne from Boston

--- sweeneyroche <sweeneyroche@...> wrote:

> Hello,

>

> My name is and I just join your group. I hope

> you can give me a

> hand. My son is 2 years 9 month old, I had seen a

> lot of Doctors, but

> only a few month ago I receveid an Asperger

> Diagnosys.

> One of the main issues of my son is the lack of

> speak, he dosen't

> talk. Is this a common syntom with AS kids.

>

> From Caracas-Venezuela

>

> TKS

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

My son's speech has taken a long time to come. He is only now at 6 starting to

put a few words together. He still speaks " jargon " to himself through out the

day. He used to just babble all the time. He has a PECS board but is starting

to need it less and less.

Beck

( ) Re: Question about verbal communication

My son began speaking then completely stopped for two years. Our

pediatrician kept telling us not to worry that he would talk again

when he was ready. He did finally begin speaking again but it took 5

years of speech therapy to get back to almost normal. He has some

residual stuttering and stammering especially when he is nervous or

angry. Hang in there.

Mark in Tx

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > My name is and I just join your group. I hope you can give

> me a

> > hand. My son is 2 years 9 month old, I had seen a lot of

Doctors,

> but

> > only a few month ago I receveid an Asperger Diagnosys.

> > One of the main issues of my son is the lack of speak, he

dosen't

> > talk. Is this a common syntom with AS kids.

> >

> > From Caracas-Venezuela

> >

> > TKS

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My son never said a word until after he was around 21 months old. He

never even made cooing noises as a baby or said Ma Ma and Da Da. He

was bottle broke before he could ask for it. Everything that he

wanted involved pointing until we got him into early intervention at

around 22 months. Following that he has had speech therapy at least

once a week since. He is now age 7 and still receives speech at

school for 1/2 hour once a week. I was intially given a diognosis of

Aspergers when he was almost six. Now at seven we are taking him to

another doctor for a positive diognosis. I have read that kids with

Aspergers do not have speech problems and that is the only area that

my son does not fit into as far as symptoms of aspergers. I have

always wondered the same thing. The Gentisit that we take my son to

suggested at our last appointment that my son may have a nonverbal

learning disability. I really do not know exacally what that is and

so I am confused as well. We are currently getting him set up to go

to a neuropsychologist to see what he thinks. Who knows. My advice to

you would be to get your child all the help that your state provides.

If your insurance covers therapy then get it. I know without a doubt

that had I not gotten my son involved in early intervention and

special ed preschool he would not be as far as he is today. He is

seven and in kindergarten. Although we tend to have days, he is

generally doing a lot better than he was at age two when he was a

wall flower. It took a lot of work to get here, but I would do it all

over again for the resaults that we have gotten. You are lucky to get

any diognosis at that young of age. I didn't get one and I lived for

years wondering. Take care and good luck.

Janie

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > My name is and I just join your group. I hope

> > you can give me a

> > hand. My son is 2 years 9 month old, I had seen a

> > lot of Doctors, but

> > only a few month ago I receveid an Asperger

> > Diagnosys.

> > One of the main issues of my son is the lack of

> > speak, he dosen't

> > talk. Is this a common syntom with AS kids.

> >

> > From Caracas-Venezuela

> >

> > TKS

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/15/2006 9:44:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

thejacobsons@... writes:

What is the difference then with Aspergers and High Functioning Autism?

Some people say they are the same dx but others say they are different.

Generally with Asperger's there is no CLEAR speech delay. Pam

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/17/2006 8:30:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

thejacobsons@... writes:

Found this very informative article and wanted to share:

_http://www.sacramentoasis.com/docs/8-22-03/as_ & _hfa.pdf_

(http://www.sacramentoasis.com/docs/8-22-03/as_ & _hfa.pdf)

You might have to cut and paste url in...

[Guest guest]

Is it also true that Aspergers has motor difficulties and HFA doesn't?

Beck

Re: ( ) Question about verbal communication

In a message dated 5/15/2006 9:44:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

thejacobsons@... writes:

What is the difference then with Aspergers and High Functioning Autism?

Some people say they are the same dx but others say they are different.

Generally with Asperger's there is no CLEAR speech delay. Pam

[Guest guest]

I don't think so... My son was originally diagnosed with Autism and high

functioning... He had great difficulties with gross motor.. And now still

continues with fine motor.. He may be the exception.. But this is just my

case

I have often heard..

" if you've seen one autistic child.... Well ... Then... You've seen one

autistic Child " LOL they're all different..

-- Re: ( ) Question about verbal communication

Is it also true that Aspergers has motor difficulties and HFA doesn't?

Beck

Re: ( ) Question about verbal communication

In a message dated 5/15/2006 9:44:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

thejacobsons@... writes:

What is the difference then with Aspergers and High Functioning Autism?

Some people say they are the same dx but others say they are different.

Generally with Asperger's there is no CLEAR speech delay. Pam

[Guest guest]

I don't believe so -- while there are definite shades of grey, HFA is

'technically' considered a 'worse' level of autism than Asperger's, with

speech being the main difference between the two.

My son (HFA) has motor skill difficulties, but that doesn't mean a lot

given the old saying, 'if you meet one child with autism, you've met one

child with autism..'

Mark son wrote:

> Is it also true that Aspergers has motor difficulties and HFA doesn't?

> Beck

[Guest guest]

My son is High Functioning Autism, due mainly to speech delay (no words until

3.5) and also flapping, which I think is in the DSMVIV for both conditions but

is more pronounced in autism? However, I have read that by adolescence, when

the speech of the HFA's catches up to the Asperger's (both at that age have

pragmatic problems) the two are more similar than not.

Also the Non-verbal Learning Disability, with the high verbal and the lower

performance score, is supposed to correlate more closely with asperger's. My

Son also tested this way and they said, basically, huh. How interesting,

doesn't mean much. Usually the autistics have less motor problems than the

aspergers but my son has very poor motor skills.

Finally, I have heard that HFA don't mind being different as much, that they are

not sensitive to teasing the way asperger's are, (socially less aware in

general) and so are less prone to depression. This is certainly true of my son.

I have witnessed all manner of children laughing at him, making fun of the way

he talks and walks and eats -- and he's absolutely, sunnily oblivious to it.

He's only nine, though, so the awareness and the depression may await.

Re: ( ) Question about verbal communication

In a message dated 5/15/2006 9:44:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

thejacobsons@... writes:

What is the difference then with Aspergers and High Functioning Autism?

Some people say they are the same dx but others say they are different.

Generally with Asperger's there is no CLEAR speech delay. Pam

[Guest guest]

Subject: ( ) Question about verbal communication

Hello,

My name is and I just join your group. I hope you can give me a

hand. My son is 2 years 9 month old, I had seen a lot of Doctors, but

only a few month ago I receveid an Asperger Diagnosys.

One of the main issues of my son is the lack of speak, he dosen't

talk. Is this a common syntom with AS kids.

From Caracas-Venezuela

TKS

Welcome Tks,

It is not common with AS kids. It is a symptom of autism, actually.

Roxanna

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: ( ) Question about verbal communication

My son is High Functioning Autism, due mainly to speech delay (no words

until 3.5) and also flapping, which I think is in the DSMVIV for both

conditions but is more pronounced in autism? However, I have read that by

adolescence, when the speech of the HFA's catches up to the Asperger's (both

at that age have pragmatic problems) the two are more similar than not.

Also the Non-verbal Learning Disability, with the high verbal and the lower

performance score, is supposed to correlate more closely with asperger's.

My Son also tested this way and they said, basically, huh. How interesting,

doesn't mean much. Usually the autistics have less motor problems than the

aspergers but my son has very poor motor skills.

Finally, I have heard that HFA don't mind being different as much, that they

are not sensitive to teasing the way asperger's are, (socially less aware in

general) and so are less prone to depression. This is certainly true of my

son. I have witnessed all manner of children laughing at him, making fun of

the way he talks and walks and eats -- and he's absolutely, sunnily

oblivious to it. He's only nine, though, so the awareness and the

depression may await.

*****I think depression probably occurs in both equally depending upon the

child/teen more than the dx. Usually AS kids do have higher verbal skills

w/lower performance and vice versa for HFA.

I have read a study discussing what you just said - that some kids with

autism suddenly have a growth in language and once they do, they then appear

to be more on a track similar to AS kids at that point. I think I read this

on Tony Attwood's website.

Roxanna

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: ( ) Question about verbal communication

" They " don't know what they're talking about. Both of my kids have been in

speech therapy for years. They both started saying momma and dadda at the

normal time, then backslid and were very late talkers. They are now 16 yo

and 13 yo and still have problems. The only reason my 16 yo is no longer in

speech is because the therapist said that she's done all she can for him.

This is as good as it's gonna get. I can understand him most of the time,

but people who aren't around him alot have trouble understanding him.

Pat-Mom to Josh (16 AS) and Sara (13 AS)

Is this the school ST who said that? If it is, get another opinion - an

outside ST evaluation at school expense. Find a therapist who CAN help him.

Roxanna

[Guest guest]

I'm not so sure if it is " common " as the degrees of Autism vary. The

important thing to do is get services for your child. Its got to be

frustrating because I'm sure your son has things he wants to say, but

doesn't know how. Since I am not familiar with Venezuela, are services

avaliable?

>

> Hello,

>

> My name is and I just join your group. I hope you can give me a

> hand. My son is 2 years 9 month old, I had seen a lot of Doctors, but

> only a few month ago I receveid an Asperger Diagnosys.

> One of the main issues of my son is the lack of speak, he dosen't

> talk. Is this a common syntom with AS kids.

>

> From Caracas-Venezuela

>

> TKS

>

[Guest guest]

Tks all for your info yes my son is in Speach Therapy (Visual not

Hearing) and he also has Pool Therapy wich I love and Psycologhist.

He started 9 month ago the therapies and its amaizing all his

impprovements he dosent talk but he makes his own sounds and now he

strated to do a lot more eye contact, he is starting to

understand " the give me, have this " and in general he is doing

better. The pool theray is great he is learning to swim and his less

clumsy, he is much strunger and more capable of doing things, like

going up and down stairs, runing with out falling, etc.

My son is starting to use the PACS system I hope it works.

(mother of Andy 2,9 month and Jack 6 month)

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > My name is and I just join your group. I hope you can give

me a

> > hand. My son is 2 years 9 month old, I had seen a lot of

Doctors, but

> > only a few month ago I receveid an Asperger Diagnosys.

> > One of the main issues of my son is the lack of speak, he

dosen't

> > talk. Is this a common syntom with AS kids.

> >

> > From Caracas-Venezuela

> >

> > TKS

> >

>