Re: Managers I need your help or anyone else.. Who knows.

[Guest guest]

She can go over the papers before she signs and make any remarks or inclutions

during the meeting. If for some reason after she signs she wants to make

changes just request another IEP meeting. She also has the right to refuse to

sign. As far as progress she should request annual goals and short term

objectives form. This is where they work for certain things and she will get a

report along with her report card. It will tell of his gains in percentages. I

hope this is helpful.

<cmcintosh5@...> wrote: I have a member in my msn group asking

for some specific information

regarding her parents rights for an IEP

She writes...

Am I as a parent allowed to just be able to sign, review the results for the

re-eval and then set up another meeting to develop the IEP for Maximus based

on the results?

Also, am I as a parent allowed to request all of the goals and objectives

written out clearly so I can understand at what level Maximus is at?

I want to have time to look things over..... And make the right choices for

Maximus.. I also want to be able to measure .. This is where he is at... And

this where we want him to be. And have everything documented on what is

occuring in between.

Im sorry if I sound nuts... I just need guidance...

Thank you all again

[Guest guest]

Subject: ( ) Managers I need your help or anyone else.. Who

knows.

I have a member in my msn group asking for some specific information

regarding her parents rights for an IEP

She writes...

Am I as a parent allowed to just be able to sign, review the results for the

re-eval and then set up another meeting to develop the IEP for Maximus based

on the results?

Also, am I as a parent allowed to request all of the goals and objectives

written out clearly so I can understand at what level Maximus is at?

I want to have time to look things over..... And make the right choices for

Maximus.. I also want to be able to measure .. This is where he is at... And

this where we want him to be. And have everything documented on what is

occuring in between.

Im sorry if I sound nuts... I just need guidance...

Thank you all again

The answers are all " yes. " She should not sign anything though until she is

ready to do so. She can review the evaluation without signing the MFE or

the IEP. If she wants time to think it over, she should do so! She can

request that they have separate meetings to view the results and write the

IEP. Just let them know you need it this way. Personally, I hate doing

both at once - it is really difficult.

If the information is not clear and does not spell out clear goals and

objectives, then the IEP is not well written. She can ask to have things

added or changed. She is a complete member of the IEP team and can have her

own goals and objectives discussed if she wants.

I would suggest she spend time over at www.wrightslaw.com . Also, there is

nice IEP tutorial for parents over at a TS website. Go here -->

http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/sitemap.htm and look for the heading

" EDUCATION " where you can find the tutorial listed. It's good info!

Roxanna

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/2006 3:37:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

cmcintosh5@... writes:

Am I as a parent allowed to just be able to sign, review the results for the

re-eval and then set up another meeting to develop the IEP for Maximus based

on the results?

This is done by the IEP Team. If it is an initial evaluation, an

eligibility meeting would take place first, determining whether child is

eligible for

special education services. If this is a re-eval, team meets, person who

conducted the evaluation talks about the results and the team makes

recommendations based on that data. The " case manager " or IEP team would

determine when

the next meeting would take place.

Also, am I as a parent allowed to request all of the goals and objectives

written out clearly so I can understand at what level Maximus is at?

You as the parent are part of the IEP team. The IEP team determines the

goals and objectives based on the strengths and needs of the child. You have

the right to bring all your concerns to the IEP meeting. With IDEA 2004, some

states are no longer having short term objectives..so make sure you check

this and include any and all pertinent information in the main goals of the

IEP.

The IEP should include PLOPs (Present Levels of Performance) and should

clearly outline what levels your child is functioning at.

Also, never sign an IEP until you have taken it home, reviewed and processed

it.

Pam

[Guest guest]

You have the right to request a review of the IEP anytime you want. You

do not have to wait until the school schedules the reevaluation. You

have the right to have everything spelled out clearly. If you do not

understand something you do not even have to sign it. My school

district creates a draft beforhand then schedules a meeting for 30-40

minutes. I ask for a draft before had so I can review it before the

meeting. I also had my son's therapist and case worker from the conties

MR/DD department at the IEP. We were there for 2 hours and still did

not have it finalized. You can ask and argue for any service you

believe your child needs. If you have some kind of advocate with you

that definately helps. We had just completed a new evaluation with the

therapist so we had all of those results as backup. Of course it was a

good thing I was sitting across the rrom from the principal when he said

" Tommy is more capable than you think he is " to the therapist. The

Ohio Coalition for the Education of Children with Disabilities has many

publications that are only $0.50 = $1.00 for parents (you just have to

pay shipping). I've listed their website and just a couple of

puplications they have availabe. I know these have helped me

tremendously. When you get to the website, click OCECD resources then

select OCECD puplications. For those of you in Ohio, they have mentors

and advocates who will help fight for you and attend IEP meetings.

http://www.ocecd.org/

How to Write an IEP

Teaches parents how to be an equal partner in their child's IEP

meetings. For use with children ages 3-22.

Parents' Rights in the Special Education Process

Reviews parents' participation in working with an IEP team member.

Provides step-by-step instructions to help parents through the special

education process. For use with children ages 3-22.

What Is An IEP?

For use with children age 3-22.

Behavior Focused IEPs

How parents can help the IEP team. For use with children ages 3-22.

>>> cmcintosh5@... 5/9/2006 6:36 PM >>>

I have a member in my msn group asking for some specific information

regarding her parents rights for an IEP

She writes...

Am I as a parent allowed to just be able to sign, review the results

for the

re-eval and then set up another meeting to develop the IEP for Maximus

based

on the results?

Also, am I as a parent allowed to request all of the goals and

objectives

written out clearly so I can understand at what level Maximus is at?

I want to have time to look things over..... And make the right choices

for

Maximus.. I also want to be able to measure .. This is where he is

at... And

this where we want him to be. And have everything documented on what

is

occuring in between.

Im sorry if I sound nuts... I just need guidance...

Thank you all again

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I just had to respond to that part you posted: " I was sitting across the room

from the principal when he said to the therapist, Tommy is more capable than you

think " hummm that's what my sons teacher said too.

I wonder if the school gets a commission for each time they say that to a

parent. My son has resource for reading, writing, spelling, has a tutor that

works with him after school, and also his respite worker works with him, and

myself, and he still needs help in school. I find myself holding my tongue back

from lots of comments they make including, when I describe a problem my son is

having, someone will say, I have that same problem. I told her he has poor

organization and can't find things. someone on his team will tell a story about

how she just had that same problem. I feel like asking her if she's ever been

tested! hummm.

Van Atta <svanatta@...> wrote:

You have the right to request a review of the IEP anytime you want. You

do not have to wait until the school schedules the reevaluation. You

have the right to have everything spelled out clearly. If you do not

understand something you do not even have to sign it. My school

district creates a draft beforhand then schedules a meeting for 30-40

minutes. I ask for a draft before had so I can review it before the

meeting. I also had my son's therapist and case worker from the conties

MR/DD department at the IEP. We were there for 2 hours and still did

not have it finalized. You can ask and argue for any service you

believe your child needs. If you have some kind of advocate with you

that definately helps. We had just completed a new evaluation with the

therapist so we had all of those results as backup. Of course it was a

good thing I was sitting across the rrom from the principal when he said

" Tommy is more capable than you think he is " to the therapist. The

Ohio Coalition for the Education of Children with Disabilities has many

publications that are only $0.50 = $1.00 for parents (you just have to

pay shipping). I've listed their website and just a couple of

puplications they have availabe. I know these have helped me

tremendously. When you get to the website, click OCECD resources then

select OCECD puplications. For those of you in Ohio, they have mentors

and advocates who will help fight for you and attend IEP meetings.

http://www.ocecd.org/

How to Write an IEP

Teaches parents how to be an equal partner in their child's IEP

meetings. For use with children ages 3-22.

Parents' Rights in the Special Education Process

Reviews parents' participation in working with an IEP team member.

Provides step-by-step instructions to help parents through the special

education process. For use with children ages 3-22.

What Is An IEP?

For use with children age 3-22.

Behavior Focused IEPs

How parents can help the IEP team. For use with children ages 3-22.

>>> cmcintosh5@... 5/9/2006 6:36 PM >>>

I have a member in my msn group asking for some specific information

regarding her parents rights for an IEP

She writes...

Am I as a parent allowed to just be able to sign, review the results

for the

re-eval and then set up another meeting to develop the IEP for Maximus

based

on the results?

Also, am I as a parent allowed to request all of the goals and

objectives

written out clearly so I can understand at what level Maximus is at?

I want to have time to look things over..... And make the right choices

for

Maximus.. I also want to be able to measure .. This is where he is

at... And

this where we want him to be. And have everything documented on what

is

occuring in between.

Im sorry if I sound nuts... I just need guidance...

Thank you all again

[Guest guest]

That's the phrase they must teach them in some training class. What

got me was that the principal was not saying it to me, but the my

son's therapist who specializes in autism disorders and conducted the

his evaluation. I also got the " you do to much for him at home

which is why he doesn't want to do his work in class " Even with

my " doing to much for him " it takes 2-3 hours to do homework. He has

one more year at this school. I can't wait to get away from this

principal. He says he's got special needs backgroud, this is his 2nd

school he's been principal at and he's only 31 so he can't have

much. When Tommy felt threatened by a substitute aid when she

said " If you don't start work in the next 5 seconds there's going to

be trouble " he said it was a perfectly legitamate thing for a teacher

to say to a student and Tommy just needed to learn to cope. His

teachers have been understanding it's just this principal (new last

year) i'm having so much trouble with.

> You have the right to request a review of the IEP anytime you

want. You

> do not have to wait until the school schedules the reevaluation.

You

> have the right to have everything spelled out clearly. If you do

not

> understand something you do not even have to sign it. My school

> district creates a draft beforhand then schedules a meeting for 30-

40

> minutes. I ask for a draft before had so I can review it before

the

> meeting. I also had my son's therapist and case worker from the

conties

> MR/DD department at the IEP. We were there for 2 hours and still

did

> not have it finalized. You can ask and argue for any service you

> believe your child needs. If you have some kind of advocate with

you

> that definately helps. We had just completed a new evaluation with

the

> therapist so we had all of those results as backup. Of course it

was a

> good thing I was sitting across the rrom from the principal when he

said

> " Tommy is more capable than you think he is " to the therapist. The

> Ohio Coalition for the Education of Children with Disabilities has

many

> publications that are only $0.50 = $1.00 for parents (you just have

to

> pay shipping). I've listed their website and just a couple of

> puplications they have availabe. I know these have helped me

> tremendously. When you get to the website, click OCECD resources

then

> select OCECD puplications. For those of you in Ohio, they have

mentors

> and advocates who will help fight for you and attend IEP meetings.

>

> http://www.ocecd.org/

>

> How to Write an IEP

> Teaches parents how to be an equal partner in their child's IEP

> meetings. For use with children ages 3-22.

>

> Parents' Rights in the Special Education Process

> Reviews parents' participation in working with an IEP team member.

> Provides step-by-step instructions to help parents through the

special

> education process. For use with children ages 3-22.

>

> What Is An IEP?

> For use with children age 3-22.

>

> Behavior Focused IEPs

> How parents can help the IEP team. For use with children ages 3-22.

>

>

>

> >>> cmcintosh5@... 5/9/2006 6:36 PM >>>

>

> I have a member in my msn group asking for some specific

information

> regarding her parents rights for an IEP

> She writes...

>

>

>

> Am I as a parent allowed to just be able to sign, review the results

> for the

> re-eval and then set up another meeting to develop the IEP for

Maximus

> based

> on the results?

>

> Also, am I as a parent allowed to request all of the goals and

> objectives

> written out clearly so I can understand at what level Maximus is

at?

>

> I want to have time to look things over..... And make the right

choices

> for

> Maximus.. I also want to be able to measure .. This is where he is

> at... And

> this where we want him to be. And have everything documented on

what

> is

> occuring in between.

>

> Im sorry if I sound nuts... I just need guidance...

>

> Thank you all again

>

>

[Guest guest]

good luck. I had a principle at was the same way. In fact it got so bad

that my seven year old at the time had a nervous break down. Only then and when

I got his ped to write a letter to school about what had happen did somethings

change. In reality it was also three years before the principle came to me and

said I never understood what or where you were coming from. She finally

understood. So be patient, give material, web sites and hope that this person

takes the time to read it.

svanatta65 <svanatta@...> wrote: That's the phrase they must teach them

in some training class. What

got me was that the principal was not saying it to me, but the my

son's therapist who specializes in autism disorders and conducted the

his evaluation. I also got the " you do to much for him at home

which is why he doesn't want to do his work in class " Even with

my " doing to much for him " it takes 2-3 hours to do homework. He has

one more year at this school. I can't wait to get away from this

principal. He says he's got special needs backgroud, this is his 2nd

school he's been principal at and he's only 31 so he can't have

much. When Tommy felt threatened by a substitute aid when she

said " If you don't start work in the next 5 seconds there's going to

be trouble " he said it was a perfectly legitamate thing for a teacher

to say to a student and Tommy just needed to learn to cope. His

teachers have been understanding it's just this principal (new last

year) i'm having so much trouble with.

> You have the right to request a review of the IEP anytime you

want. You

> do not have to wait until the school schedules the reevaluation.

You

> have the right to have everything spelled out clearly. If you do

not

> understand something you do not even have to sign it. My school

> district creates a draft beforhand then schedules a meeting for 30-

40

> minutes. I ask for a draft before had so I can review it before

the

> meeting. I also had my son's therapist and case worker from the

conties

> MR/DD department at the IEP. We were there for 2 hours and still

did

> not have it finalized. You can ask and argue for any service you

> believe your child needs. If you have some kind of advocate with

you

> that definately helps. We had just completed a new evaluation with

the

> therapist so we had all of those results as backup. Of course it

was a

> good thing I was sitting across the rrom from the principal when he

said

> " Tommy is more capable than you think he is " to the therapist. The

> Ohio Coalition for the Education of Children with Disabilities has

many

> publications that are only $0.50 = $1.00 for parents (you just have

to

> pay shipping). I've listed their website and just a couple of

> puplications they have availabe. I know these have helped me

> tremendously. When you get to the website, click OCECD resources

then

> select OCECD puplications. For those of you in Ohio, they have

mentors

> and advocates who will help fight for you and attend IEP meetings.

>

> http://www.ocecd.org/

>

> How to Write an IEP

> Teaches parents how to be an equal partner in their child's IEP

> meetings. For use with children ages 3-22.

>

> Parents' Rights in the Special Education Process

> Reviews parents' participation in working with an IEP team member.

> Provides step-by-step instructions to help parents through the

special

> education process. For use with children ages 3-22.

>

> What Is An IEP?

> For use with children age 3-22.

>

> Behavior Focused IEPs

> How parents can help the IEP team. For use with children ages 3-22.

>

>

>

> >>> cmcintosh5@... 5/9/2006 6:36 PM >>>

>

> I have a member in my msn group asking for some specific

information

> regarding her parents rights for an IEP

> She writes...

>

>

>

> Am I as a parent allowed to just be able to sign, review the results

> for the

> re-eval and then set up another meeting to develop the IEP for

Maximus

> based

> on the results?

>

> Also, am I as a parent allowed to request all of the goals and

> objectives

> written out clearly so I can understand at what level Maximus is

at?

>

> I want to have time to look things over..... And make the right

choices

> for

> Maximus.. I also want to be able to measure .. This is where he is

> at... And

> this where we want him to be. And have everything documented on

what

> is

> occuring in between.

>

> Im sorry if I sound nuts... I just need guidance...

>

> Thank you all again

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello again ,

I find your post interesting (and sad) cause I'm going through the same thing

with my son. We left off at the last team meeting in April with the team

saying. I'll show you!!! we are doing testing on him and I'll show you that he

is doing better than you say???? Well, I just got that copy of the testing. (I

had to request it) they didn't have anything to say to me when they handed me

his test results. When I got home and read it. He was 2 years behind in

reading. HA! I guess the MOM was right...(me).

Ya know, they didn't want to listen to me. So, on my own (expensive) I had a

CAP test done and they wrote up concerns with " decoding " problems, Then I had a

tutor from the local college tutor him & she wrote the teacher a note with all

her concerns. I wrote notes with my concerns. but, according to them, He can

do it, The teacher came right out and said, I write too much,(in the

communication book). I expect too much. teacher said, you can never be

satisfied!. I just need to let him be. HA! so, to prove me wrong, " they

tested him " and saw he was two years behind....

Got pretty quiet now. I have to tell you, I still stayed consistent, in spite

of them telling me nothing is wrong, he is doing better than I think. I kept

with the tutor, testings, doctors, therapy. Had I stopped, My son will lose out

and be many years behind. He is going into 4th grade at a 2nd grade reading

level. spelling worse. Don't get me started with his writing abilities. Outch.

, You are his mom and if your son needs that support at home, you should

help. at least its getting done. (less stress) And if he needs 1-2 hours to

complete his homework with your help, he is " NOT " understanding the work... Now,

if your son is not doing his work at school, maybe he doesn't understand what

needs to be done or how to do it. Prompting him with a threat doesn't work..

but, saying, if you can do the first three I will give you a sticker. works

much better. or ask , do you understand how to do this? Maybe he might need

resourch room for the start of the new school year in september? Maybe a

classroom aid? If he's not doing classroom work. they (teacher) needs to do

something different... Good Luck

svanatta65 <svanatta@...> wrote:

That's the phrase they must teach them in some training class. What

got me was that the principal was not saying it to me, but the my

son's therapist who specializes in autism disorders and conducted the

his evaluation. I also got the " you do to much for him at home

which is why he doesn't want to do his work in class " Even with

my " doing to much for him " it takes 2-3 hours to do homework. He has

one more year at this school. I can't wait to get away from this

principal. He says he's got special needs backgroud, this is his 2nd

school he's been principal at and he's only 31 so he can't have

much. When Tommy felt threatened by a substitute aid when she

said " If you don't start work in the next 5 seconds there's going to

be trouble " he said it was a perfectly legitamate thing for a teacher

to say to a student and Tommy just needed to learn to cope. His

teachers have been understanding it's just this principal (new last

year) i'm having so much trouble with.

> You have the right to request a review of the IEP anytime you

want. You

> do not have to wait until the school schedules the reevaluation.

You

> have the right to have everything spelled out clearly. If you do

not

> understand something you do not even have to sign it. My school

> district creates a draft beforhand then schedules a meeting for 30-

40

> minutes. I ask for a draft before had so I can review it before

the

> meeting. I also had my son's therapist and case worker from the

conties

> MR/DD department at the IEP. We were there for 2 hours and still

did

> not have it finalized. You can ask and argue for any service you

> believe your child needs. If you have some kind of advocate with

you

> that definately helps. We had just completed a new evaluation with

the

> therapist so we had all of those results as backup. Of course it

was a

> good thing I was sitting across the rrom from the principal when he

said

> " Tommy is more capable than you think he is " to the therapist. The

> Ohio Coalition for the Education of Children with Disabilities has

many

> publications that are only $0.50 = $1.00 for parents (you just have

to

> pay shipping). I've listed their website and just a couple of

> puplications they have availabe. I know these have helped me

> tremendously. When you get to the website, click OCECD resources

then

> select OCECD puplications. For those of you in Ohio, they have

mentors

> and advocates who will help fight for you and attend IEP meetings.

>

> http://www.ocecd.org/

>

> How to Write an IEP

> Teaches parents how to be an equal partner in their child's IEP

> meetings. For use with children ages 3-22.

>

> Parents' Rights in the Special Education Process

> Reviews parents' participation in working with an IEP team member.

> Provides step-by-step instructions to help parents through the

special

> education process. For use with children ages 3-22.

>

> What Is An IEP?

> For use with children age 3-22.

>

> Behavior Focused IEPs

> How parents can help the IEP team. For use with children ages 3-22.

>

>

>

> >>> cmcintosh5@... 5/9/2006 6:36 PM >>>

>

> I have a member in my msn group asking for some specific

information

> regarding her parents rights for an IEP

> She writes...

>

>

>

> Am I as a parent allowed to just be able to sign, review the results

> for the

> re-eval and then set up another meeting to develop the IEP for

Maximus

> based

> on the results?

>

> Also, am I as a parent allowed to request all of the goals and

> objectives

> written out clearly so I can understand at what level Maximus is

at?

>

> I want to have time to look things over..... And make the right

choices

> for

> Maximus.. I also want to be able to measure .. This is where he is

> at... And

> this where we want him to be. And have everything documented on

what

> is

> occuring in between.

>

> Im sorry if I sound nuts... I just need guidance...

>

> Thank you all again

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rose,

The thing is he DOES have a classroom aid. He has one last year (3rd

grade) he shared with 3 other kids on the spectrum and she basically

ignored him. This year he shares his aid with one other child on the

specturm who is close to his abilities. His main problem his is

short term memory, processing speed and shifting abilities. He won't

tell his aid when he needs a problem explained or demonstrated. They

have reduced the amount of work since the 2 hour IEP meeting we had

in March that ended in no new IEP. After that meeting the teacher

and aid seemed to understand better but the principal just want to

throw up road blocks. The distict Special Ed department has finaly

agreed to reevaluate him by the end of this school year. Which I had

to fight and agree with and quote passages from IDEA documentation.

They were going to wait until the beginning of next year to

reevaluate him before we meet again to try to agree on an IEP. I'm

going to ask for a copy of the results before we meet and show them

to his therapist. If I hadn't taken him to social skills therapy

every weekf or the past 3 years and occupational therapy and speech

therapy outside of school he wouldn't be where he was. He is going

through therapy burnout though and I don't know hat to do. There is

a place called LearningRX that has a 12 week therapy that will work

with him on his memory and processing speed but it is 3 hours a week

and he is rebeling about his therapies now. His speech therapist and

I have decided to drop the speech over the summer to give him a break

and start up again in the fall. I don't know what to do about this

new therapy summer would be the best time with no homework to worry

about, but he does need a break to just be allowed to do nothing for

awhile. I'm torn. I feel this is all stuff the schools should

provide instead of me paying out $3000 for a 12 week program. I

guess I'm just starting to get burned out also at times. It has

helped to know that I'm not the only one getting the run around, but

it's also very sad and troubling to know that going through this much

hassle is the norm and not the exception just to get what is leagally

suppose to be given to our kids.

> > You have the right to request a review of the IEP anytime you

> want. You

> > do not have to wait until the school schedules the reevaluation.

> You

> > have the right to have everything spelled out clearly. If you do

> not

> > understand something you do not even have to sign it. My school

> > district creates a draft beforhand then schedules a meeting for

30-

> 40

> > minutes. I ask for a draft before had so I can review it before

> the

> > meeting. I also had my son's therapist and case worker from the

> conties

> > MR/DD department at the IEP. We were there for 2 hours and still

> did

> > not have it finalized. You can ask and argue for any service you

> > believe your child needs. If you have some kind of advocate with

> you

> > that definately helps. We had just completed a new evaluation

with

> the

> > therapist so we had all of those results as backup. Of course it

> was a

> > good thing I was sitting across the rrom from the principal when

he

> said

> > " Tommy is more capable than you think he is " to the therapist.

The

> > Ohio Coalition for the Education of Children with Disabilities

has

> many

> > publications that are only $0.50 = $1.00 for parents (you just

have

> to

> > pay shipping). I've listed their website and just a couple of

> > puplications they have availabe. I know these have helped me

> > tremendously. When you get to the website, click OCECD resources

> then

> > select OCECD puplications. For those of you in Ohio, they have

> mentors

> > and advocates who will help fight for you and attend IEP meetings.

> >

> > http://www.ocecd.org/

> >

> > How to Write an IEP

> > Teaches parents how to be an equal partner in their child's IEP

> > meetings. For use with children ages 3-22.

> >

> > Parents' Rights in the Special Education Process

> > Reviews parents' participation in working with an IEP team member.

> > Provides step-by-step instructions to help parents through the

> special

> > education process. For use with children ages 3-22.

> >

> > What Is An IEP?

> > For use with children age 3-22.

> >

> > Behavior Focused IEPs

> > How parents can help the IEP team. For use with children ages 3-

22.

> >

> >

> >

> > >>> cmcintosh5@ 5/9/2006 6:36 PM >>>

> >

> > I have a member in my msn group asking for some specific

> information

> > regarding her parents rights for an IEP

> > She writes...

> >

> >

> >

> > Am I as a parent allowed to just be able to sign, review the

results

> > for the

> > re-eval and then set up another meeting to develop the IEP for

> Maximus

> > based

> > on the results?

> >

> > Also, am I as a parent allowed to request all of the goals and

> > objectives

> > written out clearly so I can understand at what level Maximus is

> at?

> >

> > I want to have time to look things over..... And make the right

> choices

> > for

> > Maximus.. I also want to be able to measure .. This is where he is

> > at... And

> > this where we want him to be. And have everything documented on

> what

> > is

> > occuring in between.

> >

> > Im sorry if I sound nuts... I just need guidance...

> >

> > Thank you all again

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks, the problem with this principal is that he thinks he know

everything there is to know because he has " special ed background "

He's only 31 and this is the 2nd school he's been a principal at.

I'm guessing he might have been a student teacher in a special

education classroom " . We've only got next year at this school then

in 6th grade he goes to the middle school. I'm hoping it can't get

much worse.

> > You have the right to request a review of the IEP anytime you

> want. You

> > do not have to wait until the school schedules the

reevaluation.

> You

> > have the right to have everything spelled out clearly. If you

do

> not

> > understand something you do not even have to sign it. My school

> > district creates a draft beforhand then schedules a meeting for

30-

> 40

> > minutes. I ask for a draft before had so I can review it

before

> the

> > meeting. I also had my son's therapist and case worker from the

> conties

> > MR/DD department at the IEP. We were there for 2 hours and

still

> did

> > not have it finalized. You can ask and argue for any service you

> > believe your child needs. If you have some kind of advocate

with

> you

> > that definately helps. We had just completed a new evaluation

with

> the

> > therapist so we had all of those results as backup. Of course

it

> was a

> > good thing I was sitting across the rrom from the principal when

he

> said

> > " Tommy is more capable than you think he is " to the therapist.

The

> > Ohio Coalition for the Education of Children with Disabilities

has

> many

> > publications that are only $0.50 = $1.00 for parents (you just

have

> to

> > pay shipping). I've listed their website and just a couple of

> > puplications they have availabe. I know these have helped me

> > tremendously. When you get to the website, click OCECD

resources

> then

> > select OCECD puplications. For those of you in Ohio, they have

> mentors

> > and advocates who will help fight for you and attend IEP

meetings.

> >

> > http://www.ocecd.org/

> >

> > How to Write an IEP

> > Teaches parents how to be an equal partner in their child's IEP

> > meetings. For use with children ages 3-22.

> >

> > Parents' Rights in the Special Education Process

> > Reviews parents' participation in working with an IEP team

member.

> > Provides step-by-step instructions to help parents through the

> special

> > education process. For use with children ages 3-22.

> >

> > What Is An IEP?

> > For use with children age 3-22.

> >

> > Behavior Focused IEPs

> > How parents can help the IEP team. For use with children ages 3-

22.

> >

> >

> >

> > >>> cmcintosh5@ 5/9/2006 6:36 PM >>>

> >

> > I have a member in my msn group asking for some specific

> information

> > regarding her parents rights for an IEP

> > She writes...

> >

> >

> >

> > Am I as a parent allowed to just be able to sign, review the

results

> > for the

> > re-eval and then set up another meeting to develop the IEP for

> Maximus

> > based

> > on the results?

> >

> > Also, am I as a parent allowed to request all of the goals and

> > objectives

> > written out clearly so I can understand at what level Maximus is

> at?

> >

> > I want to have time to look things over..... And make the right

> choices

> > for

> > Maximus.. I also want to be able to measure .. This is where he

is

> > at... And

> > this where we want him to be. And have everything documented on

> what

> > is

> > occuring in between.

> >

> > Im sorry if I sound nuts... I just need guidance...

> >

> > Thank you all again

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: ( ) Managers I need your help or anyone else..

Who knows.

That's the phrase they must teach them in some training class. What

got me was that the principal was not saying it to me, but the my

son's therapist who specializes in autism disorders and conducted the

his evaluation. I also got the " you do to much for him at home

which is why he doesn't want to do his work in class " Even with

my " doing to much for him " it takes 2-3 hours to do homework. He has

one more year at this school. I can't wait to get away from this

principal. He says he's got special needs backgroud, this is his 2nd

school he's been principal at and he's only 31 so he can't have

much. When Tommy felt threatened by a substitute aid when she

said " If you don't start work in the next 5 seconds there's going to

be trouble " he said it was a perfectly legitamate thing for a teacher

to say to a student and Tommy just needed to learn to cope. His

teachers have been understanding it's just this principal (new last

year) i'm having so much trouble with.

Wow, so he's saying that it is common practice for teachers to threaten

children in the course of " teaching " them? Yikes.

Love the " blame the parent " approach to teaching also. Gotta blame someone!

<G>

Roxanna

[Guest guest]

Very common practice actually, my Son who is in 8th grade gets threats from

his teachers constantly that if he doesn't do " THIS " the way they want, he

will have ISS, or other consequences, but what they do not understand is, this

makes him not want to go to school....etc.....I get so many behaviors with my

Son, he is NOW falling asleep in class, which is making the Teachers very

angry at him, its unreal how he gets treated.

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: ( ) Managers I need your help or anyone else..

Who knows.

Very common practice actually, my Son who is in 8th grade gets threats from

his teachers constantly that if he doesn't do " THIS " the way they want, he

will have ISS, or other consequences, but what they do not understand is,

this

makes him not want to go to school....etc.....I get so many behaviors with

my

Son, he is NOW falling asleep in class, which is making the Teachers very

angry at him, its unreal how he gets treated.

That is really upsetting. I've had a few teachers threaten my older ds but

it never worked and he seemed oblivious. If he had to stay after school or

something, I would have been down there complaining. So they never did

anything like that. He was being threatened a lot when he was in an " LD "

class that I later discovered was really a " bd " class. And of course, the

only way to " make " those kids " behave " is to threaten them into it! I had a

meeting right away to get him out of there. I also requested a functional

behavior assessment right away to get an idea of what behaviors he was

having and why. From that you can develop a behavior plan with positive

behavior supports, which is what the law says they must do. He also got an

aide and was in regular classes after that.

My ds also would sleep in class, especially when he was overwhelmed or

giving up. So don't you give up pushing for better for him! You can read

about FBA's on www.wrightslaw.com or do a google to find more information

about it. I have a favorite place here -->

http://cecp.air.org/schools_special.asp

Roxanna