just want to vent, vent & more vent

[Guest guest]

It sounds like someone needs to assign the teacher to do a report on anger

management or " How to be a Better Teacher " !!

Pat

beachbodytan2002 <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

I just got back from a team meeting. the teacher complained and was

very upset about::: for homework my son had to do an assisment on

an animal. " of his choice " (making long story short). my son told

me which animal he was interested in. gave me a name to look up on

the computer and I printed out all the info. He glued photos &

story on the subject to a large construction paper. he enjoyed

talking about it and all the info he learned. he was even excited

that he thought of the " site name " to look up the info on the

computer. " His teacher wasn't " . She was so upset, yelled at him

for having too much information. she just wanted little bits of

info. To him & myself it looked awesome. She told me that was

too much for a 3rd grade to do. My venting part is I was so shocked

at her remark. I could just imagine how my son must of felt because

he was so proud of himself for doing this and coming up with the

idea. All I did was print out the information. She told me she later

apolized to him for getting that upset with him for doing it that

way, but I feel she already did the damage (hurt)to my son.

Sometimes she gives him so much homework I can't believe she expects

him to do that much. And yet, she complains about this. something

he enjoyed and was so proud doing. Outch!!!

[Guest guest]

Rose,

It sounds to me like she thought he didn't do it himself. Which

is pretty insulting in and of itself. When I taught, every year, I did

a research

project with my kindergarteners on dinosaurs. It was amazing

the things we'd learn. The retention level was astonishing. So

it doesn't sound out of the realm of possibility for a bright third

grader to have written a beautiful project on an animal he loves.

This teacher missed a great opportunity to help your son feel

great about himself. What a great, great pity.

Liz

On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:18 PM, beachbodytan2002 wrote:

> I just got back from a team meeting. the teacher complained and was

> very upset about::: for homework my son had to do an assisment on

> an animal. " of his choice " (making long story short). my son told

> me which animal he was interested in. gave me a name to look up on

> the computer and I printed out all the info. He glued photos &

> story on the subject to a large construction paper. he enjoyed

> talking about it and all the info he learned. he was even excited

> that he thought of the " site name " to look up the info on the

> computer. " His teacher wasn't " . She was so upset, yelled at him

> for having too much information. she just wanted little bits of

> info. To him & myself it looked awesome. She told me that was

> too much for a 3rd grade to do. My venting part is I was so shocked

> at her remark.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Pat,

I was still upset about this, And with the way the teacher was speaking to me

again today. (outch again) I mentioned it to the CSE chairperson and she is

going to set up a meeting so we can all discuss this. (all of us together) the

teacher was still " venting " on me, about the homework assignment and wouldn't

let me speak about my feelings. Now we are going to discuss this at a meeting.

I'm still in shock. what about the children that don't even turn in a homework

assignment?

PATRICIA MAIN <mainpatr@...> wrote:

It sounds like someone needs to assign the teacher to do a report on anger

management or " How to be a Better Teacher " !!

Pat

beachbodytan2002 <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

I just got back from a team meeting. the teacher complained and was

very upset about::: for homework my son had to do an assisment on

an animal. " of his choice " (making long story short). my son told

me which animal he was interested in. gave me a name to look up on

the computer and I printed out all the info. He glued photos &

story on the subject to a large construction paper. he enjoyed

talking about it and all the info he learned. he was even excited

that he thought of the " site name " to look up the info on the

computer. " His teacher wasn't " . She was so upset, yelled at him

for having too much information. she just wanted little bits of

info. To him & myself it looked awesome. She told me that was

too much for a 3rd grade to do. My venting part is I was so shocked

at her remark. I could just imagine how my son must of felt because

he was so proud of himself for doing this and coming up with the

idea. All I did was print out the information. She told me she later

apolized to him for getting that upset with him for doing it that

way, but I feel she already did the damage (hurt)to my son.

Sometimes she gives him so much homework I can't believe she expects

him to do that much. And yet, she complains about this. something

he enjoyed and was so proud doing. Outch!!!

[Guest guest]

Rose,

Just a thought...Do you think that maybe her reaction was because she thought

that she could just pretty much ignore him since he's " disabled " and now he's

proven that he can learn, so now she'll have to make more of an effort on his

behalf?

Pat-mom to Josh(16 AS) and Sara (13 AS)

Liz Bohn <lbohn@...> wrote:

Rose,

It sounds to me like she thought he didn't do it himself. Which

is pretty insulting in and of itself. When I taught, every year, I did

a research

project with my kindergarteners on dinosaurs. It was amazing

the things we'd learn. The retention level was astonishing. So

it doesn't sound out of the realm of possibility for a bright third

grader to have written a beautiful project on an animal he loves.

This teacher missed a great opportunity to help your son feel

great about himself. What a great, great pity.

Liz

On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:18 PM, beachbodytan2002 wrote:

> I just got back from a team meeting. the teacher complained and was

> very upset about::: for homework my son had to do an assisment on

> an animal. " of his choice " (making long story short). my son told

> me which animal he was interested in. gave me a name to look up on

> the computer and I printed out all the info. He glued photos &

> story on the subject to a large construction paper. he enjoyed

> talking about it and all the info he learned. he was even excited

> that he thought of the " site name " to look up the info on the

> computer. " His teacher wasn't " . She was so upset, yelled at him

> for having too much information. she just wanted little bits of

> info. To him & myself it looked awesome. She told me that was

> too much for a 3rd grade to do. My venting part is I was so shocked

> at her remark.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Liz,

Our advocate said the same thing that you just wrote. Maybe she didn't think

my son did it by himself. he was so proud of himself, and now so hurt. I was

even impressed that he thought of the information to list on " Google search " to

find the information he wanted. This is something that is soooo very hard for

him to do. And this is the first time is was actually able to do this.... when

the information came up on the computer with the animal of his choice and all

the information that he needed for the assignment was right in front of him. He

was so proud of himself for getting that information on his own. (I was shocked

too). Then his teacher destroyed all that, in less than one minute. So, sad.

Sorry for still venting. But when a child has AS and you know how hard life is

for that child. When they do accomplish something, no matter how small it is.

it is such a rewarding feeling. and then it takes just one person to come and

destroy all that. and saying " I'm

sorry " does not work with an 8 year old AS child. - Rose

Liz Bohn <lbohn@...> wrote:

Rose,

It sounds to me like she thought he didn't do it himself. Which

is pretty insulting in and of itself. When I taught, every year, I did

a research

project with my kindergarteners on dinosaurs. It was amazing

the things we'd learn. The retention level was astonishing. So

it doesn't sound out of the realm of possibility for a bright third

grader to have written a beautiful project on an animal he loves.

This teacher missed a great opportunity to help your son feel

great about himself. What a great, great pity.

Liz

On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:18 PM, beachbodytan2002 wrote:

> I just got back from a team meeting. the teacher complained and was

> very upset about::: for homework my son had to do an assisment on

> an animal. " of his choice " (making long story short). my son told

> me which animal he was interested in. gave me a name to look up on

> the computer and I printed out all the info. He glued photos &

> story on the subject to a large construction paper. he enjoyed

> talking about it and all the info he learned. he was even excited

> that he thought of the " site name " to look up the info on the

> computer. " His teacher wasn't " . She was so upset, yelled at him

> for having too much information. she just wanted little bits of

> info. To him & myself it looked awesome. She told me that was

> too much for a 3rd grade to do. My venting part is I was so shocked

> at her remark.

>

[Guest guest]

That's awful! Where do I start with my feelings on that? Not sure which

bugs me most -- that she demeaned all his hard work instead of

encouraging him, when he was so proud, or getting so bothered that he

went above and beyond, which she should like?

Argh, I'm mad for you!

What ended up happening? I'd have probably given her an earful.

beachbodytan2002 wrote:

> I just got back from a team meeting. the teacher complained and was

> very upset about::: for homework my son had to do an assisment on

> an animal. " of his choice " (making long story short). my son told

> me which animal he was interested in. gave me a name to look up on

> the computer and I printed out all the info. He glued photos &

> story on the subject to a large construction paper. he enjoyed

> talking about it and all the info he learned. he was even excited

> that he thought of the " site name " to look up the info on the

> computer. " His teacher wasn't " . She was so upset, yelled at him

> for having too much information. she just wanted little bits of

> info. To him & myself it looked awesome. She told me that was

> too much for a 3rd grade to do. My venting part is I was so shocked

> at her remark. I could just imagine how my son must of felt because

> he was so proud of himself for doing this and coming up with the

> idea. All I did was print out the information. She told me she later

> apolized to him for getting that upset with him for doing it that

> way, but I feel she already did the damage (hurt)to my son.

> Sometimes she gives him so much homework I can't believe she expects

> him to do that much. And yet, she complains about this. something

> he enjoyed and was so proud doing. Outch!!!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for relating. I told my son when he gets his work back I will hang it

up.

Donna B <donnabzy@...> wrote: That's awful! Where do I start with my

feelings on that? Not sure which

bugs me most -- that she demeaned all his hard work instead of

encouraging him, when he was so proud, or getting so bothered that he

went above and beyond, which she should like?

Argh, I'm mad for you!

What ended up happening? I'd have probably given her an earful.

beachbodytan2002 wrote:

> I just got back from a team meeting. the teacher complained and was

> very upset about::: for homework my son had to do an assisment on

> an animal. " of his choice " (making long story short). my son told

> me which animal he was interested in. gave me a name to look up on

> the computer and I printed out all the info. He glued photos &

> story on the subject to a large construction paper. he enjoyed

> talking about it and all the info he learned. he was even excited

> that he thought of the " site name " to look up the info on the

> computer. " His teacher wasn't " . She was so upset, yelled at him

> for having too much information. she just wanted little bits of

> info. To him & myself it looked awesome. She told me that was

> too much for a 3rd grade to do. My venting part is I was so shocked

> at her remark. I could just imagine how my son must of felt because

> he was so proud of himself for doing this and coming up with the

> idea. All I did was print out the information. She told me she later

> apolized to him for getting that upset with him for doing it that

> way, but I feel she already did the damage (hurt)to my son.

> Sometimes she gives him so much homework I can't believe she expects

> him to do that much. And yet, she complains about this. something

> he enjoyed and was so proud doing. Outch!!!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Group,

I just wanted to let all who responded to my post, Who read about my

son doing an animal report, that the teacher was so angry because he

did more than he was suppose to... I wanted to share this....

I guess the teacher felt she needed to do more.... What she now did

is tell my son to change his animal because another child in the class

picked the same animal as him. even though my son submitted his

chart with the animal that he already worked so hard on, she asked him

if he can change to another animal. I can't believe that a teacher

could get so angry over this, that she needs to make it as hard as

possible for him. that she also needs to feel that much control of the

situation that she has to take away the animal of his choice that she

told him in the first place he can pick. he already picked library

books to read more on that animal. asked for information on the

computer, and now, today, was told he has to change that animal to

another animal. WOW. I tell myself, We only have the month of

April, May, & June Then its summer. I can't wait.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello Group,

> I just wanted to let all who responded to my post, Who read about

my

> son doing an animal report, that the teacher was so angry because

he

> did more than he was suppose to... I wanted to share this....

> I guess the teacher felt she needed to do more.... What she now

did

> is tell my son to change his animal because another child in the

class

> picked the same animal as him. even though my son submitted his

> chart with the animal that he already worked so hard on, she asked

him

> if he can change to another animal.

You've got to be kidding me! I'm pretty much a hothead myself, but I

would tell that woman he is going to CONTINUE the project he already

started! Does she have any idea how devastated he was to begin with?

Some of these teachers leave me wondering how in the world they ever

got into this line of work! And they're supposed to be professionals?

Mature adults? PLEASE! Do you have any kind of liason? A good

relationship with any of the administration? Even though school is

only

a couple months more, she can't be allowed to continue treating your

son this way. What a *^ & ^%!!! Sorry, but I have been dealing with too

many school officials with their heads up their & ^%* & ^ these last two

weeks that I just get infuriated now. How DARE they make our kids

lives

harder than it already is! I'd like to see them go through ONE week

of

the crap our AS kids go through and see how they feel about them

then,

maybe then they would have a little more respect for our kids'

triumphs

in life! My heart and prayers to you and your son

Theresa Harding

[Guest guest]

>

> What she now did

> is tell my son to change his animal because another child in the

class

> picked the same animal as him.

You may need to get clarifiaction as to the goal of the project. Is it

learning or claasroom animal diversification? As any teacher should

know that it so often is not the product that makes the learning but

the process. As a public school teacher I am too often equally proud

and embarrased by my collegues.

[Guest guest]

Roxanna,

She did hand out specific rules on how to do this but my son never gave this

to me. Its on his IEP that he has processing difficulty and poor origination

skills which the school is aware of and is working on this with him. But the

teacher thinks I'm holding him back because she feels he can do this.

communicate with no problems and doesn't need any help. Well, I took my son for

a CAP test and it showed up that he has trouble with " decoding " & with

background noise, when there is noise in the room he can't focus on things he

needs too understand or learn. has short term memory issues. When learning

something new for the first time. He needs it explained to him " one on one

first " , & make sure he understands it, before he can do the assignment. It

also shows why he has a hard time with spelling words, reading, & writing.

also, some sounds in letters he does not hear so they want to see him again in

another year to retest him. So, you can imagine how hard he worked on

this animal chart And how he felt when she said " You did it wrong " ! But still,

she thinks he can do everything independently, " but I'M holding him back " .

Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote:

Subject: ( ) just want to vent, vent & more vent

I just got back from a team meeting. the teacher complained and was

very upset about::: for homework my son had to do an assisment on

an animal. " of his choice " (making long story short). my son told

me which animal he was interested in. gave me a name to look up on

the computer and I printed out all the info. He glued photos &

story on the subject to a large construction paper. he enjoyed

talking about it and all the info he learned. he was even excited

that he thought of the " site name " to look up the info on the

computer. " His teacher wasn't " . She was so upset, yelled at him

for having too much information. she just wanted little bits of

info. To him & myself it looked awesome. She told me that was

too much for a 3rd grade to do. My venting part is I was so shocked

at her remark. I could just imagine how my son must of felt because

he was so proud of himself for doing this and coming up with the

idea. All I did was print out the information. She told me she later

apolized to him for getting that upset with him for doing it that

way, but I feel she already did the damage (hurt)to my son.

Sometimes she gives him so much homework I can't believe she expects

him to do that much. And yet, she complains about this. something

he enjoyed and was so proud doing. Outch!!!

How awful of her! She should start handing out specific rules for each

assignment if she intends to be that picky. Without having specifics, how

could anyone know? Instead, she should have praised him for doing the extra

work. Incredible how they hate anyone who excels! Augh!

Roxanna

[Guest guest]

Sounds like the teacher might be a little OCD This is crazy!

Glenna

Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: ( ) just want to vent, vent & more vent

Dear Pat,

I was still upset about this, And with the way the teacher was speaking

to me again today. (outch again) I mentioned it to the CSE chairperson

and she is going to set up a meeting so we can all discuss this. (all of us

together) the teacher was still " venting " on me, about the homework

assignment and wouldn't let me speak about my feelings. Now we are going to

discuss this at a meeting. I'm still in shock. what about the children

that don't even turn in a homework assignment?

Well, I am glad you are having a meeting about it. I would NOT apologize

that your kid did his assignment and did a really good job as well. Tell

her to knock it off!

Roxanna