Re: Sooo flippin' mad!!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi . Has your son been evaluated by the school district yet? I'm

in Florida too and it took alot of fighting to finally have an IEP

written for my son when he was in 6th grade (Jake, 16, AS), although

he did have a 504 plan since 3rd grade. He's always done well on the

FCAT (except last year) and it didn't have anything to do with whether

he was eligible for an IEP. Skip this teacher and go to straight to

the head of the team or school guidance counselor. Donna.

[Guest guest]

Yes and no... we moved from one school in the same district to

another. At the old school we had gotten things started but at the

new we would have to start from scratch--why..I dunno... The

Exceptional Student counselor is brand new and fresh out of college.

I think he's over his head. I am going to pay for formal tests and

give the results (at this point all I have had is opinion by dr's..)

My friend recommeded an advocate- anyone had experience with those?

Thanks!

>

> Hi . Has your son been evaluated by the school district yet?

I'm

> in Florida too and it took alot of fighting to finally have an IEP

> written for my son when he was in 6th grade (Jake, 16, AS), although

> he did have a 504 plan since 3rd grade. He's always done well on the

> FCAT (except last year) and it didn't have anything to do with

whether

> he was eligible for an IEP. Skip this teacher and go to straight to

> the head of the team or school guidance counselor. Donna.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Yes, we had an attorney help us through the process. We had to threaten

to file due process, but never actually did. They caved before we filed

and gave us the program we wanted. Hint: Let your advocate advise you

re who to go to for testing. There may be a list of what testers are

acceptible to the school district.

Liz

On Oct 14, 2005, at 7:35 PM, wrote:

> Yes and no... we moved from one school in the same district to

> another. At the old school we had gotten things started but at the

> new we would have to start from scratch--why..I dunno... The

> Exceptional Student counselor is brand new and fresh out of college.

> I think he's over his head. I am going to pay for formal tests and

> give the results (at this point all I have had is opinion by dr's..)

> My friend recommeded an advocate- anyone had experience with those?

> Thanks!

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/14/2005 11:11:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

bluefancy@... writes:

I think I will go out of school and get all of

his testing etc. done on my dime and come back with the results.

I was just at a slaw Conference (2-day Boot Camp) this weekend. Two

things I walked away with is definitely get private testing versus school

department testing and that you need to understand the tests and test results.

A

child can test with a FSIQ of 100 (average range) but when tests and

subtests are broken down, can test much lower or have significant scatter.

You, as a

parent need to be able to breakdown and read these findings.

[Guest guest]

On Oct 16, 2005, at 10:47 AM, ppanda65@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 10/14/2005 11:11:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> bluefancy@... writes:

>

> I think I will go out of school and get all of

> his testing etc. done on my dime and come back with the results.

>

>

> I was just at a slaw Conference (2-day Boot Camp) this weekend.

> Two

> things I walked away with is definitely get private testing versus

> school

> department testing and that you need to understand the tests and test

> results. A

> child can test with a FSIQ of 100 (average range) but when tests and

> subtests are broken down, can test much lower or have significant

> scatter. You, as a

> parent need to be able to breakdown and read these findings.

YES. This is one reason why our son was eligible for services. His

verbal IQ was 70 points higher than his performance IQ. A spread like

that automatically qualified him for services. Also, we had him

privately tested by an OT and an SP, and he tested eligible for

services in those areas, too. (He didn't when the school district

tested him. Surprise surprise.) Now that he's in the district's

special ed program, he's been treated very well. But it was a struggle

to get him there.

Liz

ps. We were threatening to go due process. As part of that, we made the

school district pay for all the testing we had done.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/17/2005 12:33:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lbohn@... writes:

ps. We were threatening to go due process. As part of that, we made the

school district pay for all the testing we had done.

The school district can refuse to pay for independant evaluations, but must

bring the parent to hearing to prove that their document is a superior

document.

[Guest guest]

do you have any support with you when you go into the school meetings. your

support team can help you, & your son. I know these meetings can get upsetting,

because all the teachers & cse team can't see anything wrong, or they all say

they have the same problems as your child, so this makes everything OK with your

child. (with them, of course). I still say they don't want to spend the money

on our children. there are parent support groups, family resource, Autism

support groups. maybe you can hook up with someone their that can go with you,

to be a support for you & your child. Best luck, don't give up...what state are

you in?

ppanda65@... wrote:

In a message dated 10/17/2005 12:33:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lbohn@... writes:

ps. We were threatening to go due process. As part of that, we made the

school district pay for all the testing we had done.

The school district can refuse to pay for independant evaluations, but must

bring the parent to hearing to prove that their document is a superior

document.

[Guest guest]

<bluefancy@...> wrote:Aggghh! I am right in the middle of

seeking an IEP for my 8 YO son

Max for AS. I met w/his teacher who said that they found that if the

FCAT was given today (the FCAT being the ONLY thing Florida schools

answer to)he was shown that he would pass (just barely though). Also,

Max is not a behaviour proplem (of course not--he thrives on rules and

regulations). Of course, I pointed out that the day the FCAT pre-test

was given was probably a good day. And what if we are out of pop

tarts or he is wearing long pants or Pokemon is a rerun on the real

test day? But no, his teacher said that the school was not not going

to " prioritize " the IEP. Am I wrong for wanting one if he can

function marginally in school? The teacher kind of made me feel like

I was this fretful mother who wants the attention of having

a " special " child! I think I will go out of school and get all of

his testing etc. done on my dime and come back with the results. Do

they have to give him an IEP then?

Ask for the refusal in writing. You are entitled to " prior written notice. "

Ask teachie to give you your prior written notice along with a copy of Florida's

special rule of excluding children who can pass the FCAT from special education.

Also, request an IEP in writing and send it to the director of student services

or special education and skip teachie entirely.

Roxanna

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Just Like Everyone Else

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[Guest guest]

GREAT ADVICE !! and to this I might add.. I would ask for another assessment

..

IT seems that our children have to sink in order to be sent out that life

preserver!! DISGUSTING!!

Wanna know what I DID?? it sounds terrible at first..

but I gave my poor boy a disruptive evening.. sent him to school without his

meds.. and gave him a wonderful breakfast of sugar corn pops on his

assessment day!! BAM he was in a self contained classroom as requested and

needed!! That was two years ago.. and he is now up to grade level in this

environment.. so.. if they ever try to take him out.. against my will.. I

will have a clear showing how his quiet room is just the kind of learning

environment he needed.. the proof is indeed in the education.

YUP my son is not aggressive either.. and is high functioning..so they seem

to get relegated to the back of the bus.. NOT fair ON either stand.

-- Re: ( ) Sooo flippin' mad!!!!

<bluefancy@...> wrote:Aggghh! I am right in the middle of

seeking an IEP for my 8 YO son

Max for AS. I met w/his teacher who said that they found that if the

FCAT was given today (the FCAT being the ONLY thing Florida schools

answer to)he was shown that he would pass (just barely though). Also,

Max is not a behaviour proplem (of course not--he thrives on rules and

regulations). Of course, I pointed out that the day the FCAT pre-test

was given was probably a good day. And what if we are out of pop

tarts or he is wearing long pants or Pokemon is a rerun on the real

test day? But no, his teacher said that the school was not not going

to " prioritize " the IEP. Am I wrong for wanting one if he can

function marginally in school? The teacher kind of made me feel like

I was this fretful mother who wants the attention of having

a " special " child! I think I will go out of school and get all of

his testing etc. done on my dime and come back with the results. Do

they have to give him an IEP then?

Ask for the refusal in writing. You are entitled to " prior written notice. "

Ask teachie to give you your prior written notice along with a copy of

Florida's special rule of excluding children who can pass the FCAT from

special education. Also, request an IEP in writing and send it to the

director of student services or special education and skip teachie entirely.

Roxanna

Always Remember You're Unique

Just Like Everyone Else

---------------------------------

FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

[Guest guest]

Hey

I know what you mean when you say what you did sounds terrible, but it sounds

like a successful strategy. I just might do it too, when it comes to my

children being evaluated!!

Dave

<cmcintosh5@...> wrote:

GREAT ADVICE !! and to this I might add.. I would ask for another assessment

..

IT seems that our children have to sink in order to be sent out that life

preserver!! DISGUSTING!!

Wanna know what I DID?? it sounds terrible at first..

but I gave my poor boy a disruptive evening.. sent him to school without his

meds.. and gave him a wonderful breakfast of sugar corn pops on his

assessment day!! BAM he was in a self contained classroom as requested and

needed!! That was two years ago.. and he is now up to grade level in this

environment.. so.. if they ever try to take him out.. against my will.. I

will have a clear showing how his quiet room is just the kind of learning

environment he needed.. the proof is indeed in the education.

YUP my son is not aggressive either.. and is high functioning..so they seem

to get relegated to the back of the bus.. NOT fair ON either stand.

-- Re: ( ) Sooo flippin' mad!!!!

<bluefancy@...> wrote:Aggghh! I am right in the middle of

seeking an IEP for my 8 YO son

Max for AS. I met w/his teacher who said that they found that if the

FCAT was given today (the FCAT being the ONLY thing Florida schools

answer to)he was shown that he would pass (just barely though). Also,

Max is not a behaviour proplem (of course not--he thrives on rules and

regulations). Of course, I pointed out that the day the FCAT pre-test

was given was probably a good day. And what if we are out of pop

tarts or he is wearing long pants or Pokemon is a rerun on the real

test day? But no, his teacher said that the school was not not going

to " prioritize " the IEP. Am I wrong for wanting one if he can

function marginally in school? The teacher kind of made me feel like

I was this fretful mother who wants the attention of having

a " special " child! I think I will go out of school and get all of

his testing etc. done on my dime and come back with the results. Do

they have to give him an IEP then?

Ask for the refusal in writing. You are entitled to " prior written notice. "

Ask teachie to give you your prior written notice along with a copy of

Florida's special rule of excluding children who can pass the FCAT from

special education. Also, request an IEP in writing and send it to the

director of student services or special education and skip teachie entirely.

Roxanna

Always Remember You're Unique

Just Like Everyone Else

---------------------------------

FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.