Re: bitting or hitting when happy or excited

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On Dec 15, 6:20am, " sunnyklynne " wrote:

} My son has not be diagnosed with asoergers but I am looking into it. I=20

} was wondering if bitting or hitting when happy or excited is a symptom.=20

My son gets into a goofy place where he almost seems drunk. He has

poor impulse control in that state and sometimes bites or hits or

threatens people with a big smile on his face. It's very perturbing.

Willa

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Oh, my you are almost completely describing my son. He is 6.5 years and in first grade. He used to literally tackle kids to say hi etc. and he does hit, but usually only when his emotion level is high (which for anyone else would be very low as he doesnt know how to cope with emotion at all). Just my 2 cents.

( ) bitting or hitting when happy or excited

My son has not be diagnosed with asoergers but I am looking into it. I was wondering if bitting or hitting when happy or excited is a symptom. My son bit a little girl in class because he was happy she was going to be his freind, another time when his cousing came over he got so excited he threw his bookbag at him. And today we went to the zoo on a feild trip and he bit someone on the bus. The school asked me to take him home and not allow him to go to the zoo. When I asked him why he did this he said because he was excited. Then I asked him why he did this when he was happy he said because his brain doesn't work right. He said he has thoughts. I know this is impulsive, which he is very. I am looking into aspergers but I don't see that his has all the things. He does have a hard time socializing and he doesn't have any friends. He is 6 years old and in Kindergarten. We held him back last year. His brother is 5 and isn't like him. I just see that he is different. Not as mature as others his age. Thank you for your imput.

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I am almost in tears thinking that there really is a reason that my son

is the way he is. I don't know if this is what he has and won't know

till I get him tested but it is a start. I first thought he had ADD

and I'm still not sure that he doesn't seems AS is very similar to

ADD. The thing about AS that I'm not sure about is the major anger

issues. My son does have some but he doesn't go around breaking

furniture or anything like that. I do know that when he used to brake

his toys it was because he wanted to see what was inside. Once he did

this he didn't have an intrest in that toy again. He now is into Video

games which I'm not sure I like because he does get frustrated

sometimes and he is so intent on the game. He has lashed out at me and

hit me because I needed to use the computer and he has thrown a paddle

at me and hit me in the head but that was the only time that he has

ever don't something like that. I'm just not sure. Guess I do need to

do some more research.

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Sounds like my son who is also 6 and in kgarten. He's very impulsive and we had a hard time with his biting. He bit (and occassional still does) when someone gets into his 'space' or if he really looses control We've had him on Adderall for 6 months and attending a social skills group has helped tremendously with his impulsive behaviors and we've seen a huge decline with biting, throwing, banging things etc....

As far as the school, they do have to be protective of the other kids. Does your son have an IEP? If not you may want to look into it so he get support to help him through the diffucult times (e.g. field trips).

Hope this helps...

Rhonda

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My son has not be diagnosed with asoergers but I am looking into it. I was wondering if bitting or hitting when happy or excited is a symptom. My son bit a little girl in class because he was happy she was going to be his freind, another time when his cousing came over he got so excited he threw his bookbag at him. And today we went to the zoo on a feild trip and he bit someone on the bus. The school asked me to take him home and not allow him to go to the zoo. When I asked him why he did this he said because he was excited. Then I asked him why he did this when he was happy he said because his brain doesn't work right. He said he has thoughts. I know this is impulsive, which he is very. I am looking into aspergers but I don't see that his has all the things. He does have a hard time socializing and he doesn't have any friends. He is 6 years old and in Kindergarten. We held him back last year. His brother is 5 and isn't like hi

m. I just see that he is different. Not as mature as others his age. Thank you for your imput.

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From: sunnyklynne <sunnyklynne@...>

Date: 2007/04/17 Tue PM 06:36:33 CDT

Subject: Re: ( ) bitting or hitting when happy or excited

It would seem to me that the biting or hitting could be a sensory issue and that

would certainly tie into a spectrum disorder like Asperger's. Does he have any

other sensory issues like sensitivities to clothing or certain foods, sounds?

I am almost in tears thinking that there really is a reason that my son

is the way he is. I don't know if this is what he has and won't know

till I get him tested but it is a start. I first thought he had ADD

and I'm still not sure that he doesn't seems AS is very similar to

ADD. The thing about AS that I'm not sure about is the major anger

issues. My son does have some but he doesn't go around breaking

furniture or anything like that. I do know that when he used to brake

his toys it was because he wanted to see what was inside. Once he did

this he didn't have an intrest in that toy again. He now is into Video

games which I'm not sure I like because he does get frustrated

sometimes and he is so intent on the game. He has lashed out at me and

hit me because I needed to use the computer and he has thrown a paddle

at me and hit me in the head but that was the only time that he has

ever don't something like that. I'm just not sure. Guess I do need to

do some more research.

" I must have walked ten million miles

Must have walked ten million miles

Wore some shoes that weren't my style

Fell into the rank and file

So just say I was here a while

A fool in search of your sweet smile

Ten million miles "

~Patty ~

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On Dec 15, 8:27am, " sunnyklynne " wrote:

} I am almost in tears thinking that there really is a reason that my son=20

} is the way he is. I don't know if this is what he has and won't know=20

} till I get him tested but it is a start. I first thought he had ADD=20

} and I'm still not sure that he doesn't seems AS is very similar to=20

} ADD. The thing about AS that I'm not sure about is the major anger=20

} issues. My son does have some but he doesn't go around breaking=20

As someone wise once said, if you've met one person with autism,

you've met one person with autism. IIRC, anger issues aren't

in the DSM IV diagnostic criteria, but even if they are, every person

with AS won't necessarily have every issue.

Willa

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You definitley need to get an eval from an OT versed in sensory

integration. It will help and things will get better.

All my best,

Debbie

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I have to add that kids with AS have different personalities as well as

different AS traits. My son is very passive. He does get frustrated

and may not have the coping skills someone of his age should have, he

appears to transition well but I see subtle behaviors to the contrary.

The point is, if these kids have a sensory diet and a way of

understanding their body and what they can do to make themselves feel

better, that's pretty big. Also SI affects more than behavior. It

affects their ability to learn and attend and motor plan, etc

I am in the process of getting a sensory diet put into the Specially

Designed Instruction section of the IEP. They have already started to

implement it so I am thrilled they are being cooperative. My next step

is to try to get some simple equipment such as a therapy ball that he

can sit and bounce on. It has been very stressful nut my hard work is

paying off....till the next issue.

Debbie

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He sounds like he is in high arousal mode - overstimulated and seeking

oral sensory input. If he had a drink in his hand with a straw in it

that he could suck on, perhaps with a thick milkshake in it he could

suck and chew instead of biting. Read about SI and get some ideas.

Chewing gum is another one. Some things are alerting and some are

calming. Try some things at home and see what works, then you can let

the school know.

Good luck,

Debbie

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From: debramelamed <melamedj@...>

Date: 2007/04/17 Tue PM 10:17:23 CDT

Subject: Re: ( ) bitting or hitting when happy or excited

gum chewing is being used more and more even in schools.

He sounds like he is in high arousal mode - overstimulated and seeking

oral sensory input. If he had a drink in his hand with a straw in it

that he could suck on, perhaps with a thick milkshake in it he could

suck and chew instead of biting. Read about SI and get some ideas.

Chewing gum is another one. Some things are alerting and some are

calming. Try some things at home and see what works, then you can let

the school know.

Good luck,

Debbie

" I must have walked ten million miles

Must have walked ten million miles

Wore some shoes that weren't my style

Fell into the rank and file

So just say I was here a while

A fool in search of your sweet smile

Ten million miles "

~Patty ~

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My son is allowed to chew gum. It's obvious when you give a kid gum cause the "like it" and when you give a kid gum, cause it calms them.Robin Neylon <Lindee37@...> wrote: From: debramelamed <melamedjcomcast (DOT) net>Date: 2007/04/17 Tue PM 10:17:23 CDT Subject: Re: ( ) bitting or hitting when happy or excitedgum chewing

is being used more and more even in schools.He sounds like he is in high arousal mode - overstimulated and seeking oral sensory input. If he had a drink in his hand with a straw in it that he could suck on, perhaps with a thick milkshake in it he could suck and chew instead of biting. Read about SI and get some ideas. Chewing gum is another one. Some things are alerting and some are calming. Try some things at home and see what works, then you can let the school know.Good luck,Debbie"I must have walked ten million milesMust have walked ten million milesWore some shoes that weren't my styleFell into the rank and fileSo just say I was here a whileA fool in search of your sweet smileTen million miles"~Patty ~

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Hi everyone,

I hope you don’t mind me jumping in

like this…I just joined this group and this is the first time I see

someone mention anger tissues related to AS. That’s very interesting…My

11 yo daughter is often very angry and ‘explosive’. Ever since she

was born I have been trying to figure out what was going on with her. She is

very different from her twin brother and her 1 ½ year older sister. When she

was 3 yo I thought it was Asperger but everybody around me (school,

psychologists, husband) do not believe that’s what it is. Asperger runs

in my family. My dd is so good at playing different roles at different places

that I do understand why outside people do not see it. She can act so social,

yet she can’t read body language from humans or animals.

We moved from the Netherlands 4

years ago, despite the fact that she didn’t agree with it (she was afraid

of the changes). It took her a long time to pick up the English language,

although she is tested gifted. She did not want to learn it in the first place

and she can not read between the lines and takes everything literally. Now her

Dutch is not good anymore either. Well…I could write a long email about

everything we went through with her.

For now I just wanted to let you know I

was glad I read about anger issues, possibly being a part of AS.

Thanks for listening,

Chiara

On Dec

15, 8:27am, " sunnyklynne " wrote:

} I am almost in tears thinking that there really is a reason that my son=20

} is the way he is. I don't know if this is what he has and won't know=20

} till I get him tested but it is a start. I first thought he had ADD=20

} and I'm still not sure that he doesn't seems AS is very similar to=20

} ADD. The thing about AS that I'm not sure about is the major anger=20

} issues. My son does have some but he doesn't go around breaking=20

As someone wise once said, if you've met one person with autism,

you've met one person with autism. IIRC, anger issues aren't

in the DSM IV diagnostic criteria, but even if they are, every person

with AS won't necessarily have every issue.

Willa

[Guest guest]

Hello , that is so awesome you are able to talk to him and he can explain to you his feelings, (on why he does that - hitting & biting). If he says he does it because he is excited??, can you explain another appropriate way for him to show his excitement? some children with aspergers don't know how to replace a bad habit unless shown a good habit to replace it with. example, when excited that he has a new friend - instead of biting - teach him to do a 'hi - five'. or clap his hands, or just say yeah!!! but make it very clear that biting is not allowed. hope this was helpful? *smile*sunnyklynne <sunnyklynne@...> wrote: My son has not be diagnosed with asoergers but I am looking into it. I was wondering if bitting or hitting when happy or excited is a symptom. My son bit a little girl in class because he was happy she was going to be his freind, another time when his cousing came over he got so excited he threw his bookbag at him. And today we went to the zoo on a feild trip and he bit someone on the bus. The school asked me to take him home and not allow him to go to the zoo. When I asked him why he did this he said because he was excited. Then I asked him why he did this when he was happy he said because his brain doesn't work right. He said he has thoughts. I know this is impulsive, which he is very. I am

looking into aspergers but I don't see that his has all the things. He does have a hard time socializing and he doesn't have any friends. He is 6 years old and in Kindergarten. We held him back last year. His brother is 5 and isn't like him. I just see that he is different. Not as mature as others his age. Thank you for your imput.

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Hello Robin, that is something that you posted this about the gum. My therapist said to give my son gum or something to chew on because it calms him down. Also, if he is over stimulated, gum works for that too. And for some reason, it works. when he is chewing gum, he seems more focused. AMAZING???. our therapist is trying to teach him to recognize when he is anxious, hyper, overstimulated, for 'him' to ask for gum to calm down. *great idea*... and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...> wrote: My son is allowed to chew gum. It's obvious when you give a kid gum cause the "like it" and when you give a kid gum, cause it calms them.Robin Neylon <Lindee37verizon (DOT) net> wrote: From: debramelamed <melamedjcomcast (DOT) net>Date: 2007/04/17 Tue PM 10:17:23 CDT Subject: Re: ( ) bitting or hitting when happy or excitedgum chewing is being used more and more even in schools.He sounds like he is in high arousal mode - overstimulated and seeking oral sensory input. If he had a drink in his hand with a straw in it that he could suck on, perhaps

with a thick milkshake in it he could suck and chew instead of biting. Read about SI and get some ideas. Chewing gum is another one. Some things are alerting and some are calming. Try some things at home and see what works, then you can let the school know.Good luck,Debbie"I must have walked ten million milesMust have walked ten million milesWore some shoes that weren't my styleFell into the rank and fileSo just say I was here a whileA fool in search of your sweet smileTen million miles"~Patty ~ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos.

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I know what you mean by not fitting all the symptoms for a specific diagnosis. Have you read about PPD-NOS? Alot of our kids fall into that catagory. I didnt think my son had all the symptoms to be diagnosed either, but when a pprofessional did his eval, he pointed out things to me I had never concitered. my son was diagnosed as early infantile autism, but i htink if re evaled now, hed have hfa or aspergers. My son also bites and throws stuff etc when he's excited. KNowing he does this because hes happy makes dicipline hard for me to do. I pull him aside and explain as best as I can.. sense he's three to do what Rose said, to high five. that has worked really well for him because he gets the deep pressure of the hand slap, its a big full body movement (at least the way alex does it.. ha ha) and he gets to shout "high five". it kind of gets some of that "big feeling" out in a approiriate way. i would tell those teachers that told you

to remove him from the zoo altogether to read about the new laws in place that not only advocate for inclusion, but make exclusion illegal. If you get him diagnosed anywhere on the spectrum, id ask he remain in a typical classroom with an aid to be with him at all times to help him replace those negative ways of showing joy with habbits that draw friends in, not scare them off! As for hte Zoo, or any field trip from here on out, go with him as a chaperone. then if the situation gets out of hand again because the teachers are unqualified to recognise the child has chalanges beyond his control, you will be there to advocate for his best interest, and remind them of the laws regarding the treatment of ASD students. Sorrry, but that part about the zoo kinda bothered me.. how mean to make him leave! Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote: Hello , that is so awesome you are able to talk to him and he can explain to you his feelings, (on why he does that - hitting & biting). If he says he does it because he is excited??, can you explain another appropriate way for him to show his excitement? some children with aspergers don't know how to replace a bad habit unless shown a good habit to replace it with. example, when excited that he has a new friend - instead of biting - teach him to do a 'hi - five'. or clap his hands, or just say yeah!!! but make it very clear

that biting is not allowed. hope this was helpful? *smile*sunnyklynne <sunnyklynne > wrote: My son has not be diagnosed with asoergers but I am looking into it. I was wondering if bitting or hitting when happy or excited is a symptom. My son bit a little girl in class because he was happy she was going to be his freind, another time when his cousing came over he got so excited he threw his bookbag at him. And today we went to the zoo on a feild trip and he bit someone on the bus. The school asked me to take him home and not allow him to go to the zoo. When I asked him why he did this he said because he was excited. Then I asked him why he did this when he was happy he said because his brain doesn't work right. He said he has thoughts. I know this is impulsive,

which he is very. I am looking into aspergers but I don't see that his has all the things. He does have a hard time socializing and he doesn't have any friends. He is 6 years old and in Kindergarten. We held him back last year. His brother is 5 and isn't like him. I just see that he is different. Not as mature as others his age. Thank you for your imput. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos.

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I know what you mean by not fitting all the symptoms for a specific diagnosis. Have you read about PPD-NOS? Alot of our kids fall into that catagory. I didnt think my son had all the symptoms to be diagnosed either, but when a pprofessional did his eval, he pointed out things to me I had never concitered. my son was diagnosed as early infantile autism, but i htink if re evaled now, hed have hfa or aspergers. My son also bites and throws stuff etc when he's excited. KNowing he does this because hes happy makes dicipline hard for me to do. I pull him aside and explain as best as I can.. sense he's three to do what Rose said, to high five. that has worked really well for him because he gets the deep pressure of the hand slap, its a big full body movement (at least the way alex does it.. ha ha) and he gets to shout "high five". it kind of gets some of that "big feeling" out in a approiriate way. i would tell those teachers that told you

to remove him from the zoo altogether to read about the new laws in place that not only advocate for inclusion, but make exclusion illegal. If you get him diagnosed anywhere on the spectrum, id ask he remain in a typical classroom with an aid to be with him at all times to help him replace those negative ways of showing joy with habbits that draw friends in, not scare them off! As for hte Zoo, or any field trip from here on out, go with him as a chaperone. then if the situation gets out of hand again because the teachers are unqualified to recognise the child has chalanges beyond his control, you will be there to advocate for his best interest, and remind them of the laws regarding the treatment of ASD students. Sorrry, but that part about the zoo kinda bothered me.. how mean to make him leave! Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote: Hello , that is so awesome you are able to talk to him and he can explain to you his feelings, (on why he does that - hitting & biting). If he says he does it because he is excited??, can you explain another appropriate way for him to show his excitement? some children with aspergers don't know how to replace a bad habit unless shown a good habit to replace it with. example, when excited that he has a new friend - instead of biting - teach him to do a 'hi - five'. or clap his hands, or just say yeah!!! but make it very clear

that biting is not allowed. hope this was helpful? *smile*sunnyklynne <sunnyklynne > wrote: My son has not be diagnosed with asoergers but I am looking into it. I was wondering if bitting or hitting when happy or excited is a symptom. My son bit a little girl in class because he was happy she was going to be his freind, another time when his cousing came over he got so excited he threw his bookbag at him. And today we went to the zoo on a feild trip and he bit someone on the bus. The school asked me to take him home and not allow him to go to the zoo. When I asked him why he did this he said because he was excited. Then I asked him why he did this when he was happy he said because his brain doesn't work right. He said he has thoughts. I know this is impulsive,

which he is very. I am looking into aspergers but I don't see that his has all the things. He does have a hard time socializing and he doesn't have any friends. He is 6 years old and in Kindergarten. We held him back last year. His brother is 5 and isn't like him. I just see that he is different. Not as mature as others his age. Thank you for your imput. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos.

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chews his hands.. fist and all when he's upset, the way a 6month old does. ill be glad when he's old enough for gum!! Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote: Hello Robin, that is something that you posted this about the gum. My therapist said to give my son gum or something to chew on because it calms him down. Also, if he is over stimulated, gum works for that too. And for some reason, it works. when he is chewing gum, he seems more

focused. AMAZING???. our therapist is trying to teach him to recognize when he is anxious, hyper, overstimulated, for 'him' to ask for gum to calm down. *great idea*... and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs > wrote: My son is allowed to chew gum. It's obvious when you give a kid gum cause the "like it" and when you give a kid gum, cause it calms them.Robin Neylon <Lindee37verizon (DOT) net> wrote: From: debramelamed <melamedjcomcast (DOT) net>Date: 2007/04/17 Tue PM 10:17:23 CDT Subject: Re: ( ) bitting or hitting when happy or excitedgum chewing is being used more and more even in schools.He sounds like he is in high arousal mode - overstimulated and seeking oral sensory input. If he had a drink in his hand with a straw in it that he could suck on, perhaps with a thick milkshake in it he could suck and chew instead of biting. Read about SI and get some ideas. Chewing gum is another one. Some things are alerting and some are calming. Try some things at home and see what works, then you can let the school know.Good luck,Debbie"I must have walked ten million milesMust have walked ten million milesWore some shoes that weren't my styleFell into the rank and fileSo just say I was here a whileA fool in search of your sweet smileTen million

miles"~Patty ~ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos.

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--- Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

> Hello Robin,

> that is something that you posted this about the

> gum. My therapist said to give my son gum or

> something to chew on because it calms him down.

> Also, if he is over stimulated, gum works for that

> too. And for some reason, it works. when he is

> chewing gum, he seems more focused. AMAZING???.

> our therapist is trying to teach him to recognize

> when he is anxious, hyper, overstimulated, for

> 'him' to ask for gum to calm down. *great idea*...

That really is interesting because my son loves to

chew gum. I've never noticed why, but he is always

asking if he can have packs of gum and now I can

understand why he loves to chew gum so much. He has

great OCD issues, so it sounds as if the gum may be a

great thing for anxiety! Thanks for the " insight " on

the gum! That is very interesting and I won't be so

opt to say " no " about gum in the future. Now I'll want

to buy him gum.

-Melinda

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This is a great article...long but lots of ideas for home and school. I read a bit about oral motor defensiveness and there can by hypo or hyper defensiveness. Some people suggested using a battery operative toothbrush, chewing gum, sucking on a straw or sport bottle, etc. I would definitely consult with an OT before instituting any "sensory diet" on your own. Pam

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Just a thought... This sounds lots like my son. when he will go to say hello to another child, he would grab them and give them a 'bear hug'. he is big for his size, so you can picture the other child wanting to get away. but, my baby is just trying to be affectionate. LOL He craves strong hugs as well. he does things to the extreme. like - a 'hi five' from him will hurt your hand. even a kiss, you will feel like your going to lose your cheek. at home, I have one of those *large exercises balls*, when needed, he will sit on it and bounce, roll on it, squeeze it, fall onto it, then, by standing straight and falling towards the ball landing on it tummy first. He loves his Hugh exorcise ball. another is the mini trampoline. He can jump on that for a whole DVD movie instead of being annoying. (which he can't help). I try not to punish him for things he does. with him, rewards works much better. or I try teaching him over and over until it connects. yes, it would be very hard to punish a child for something he/she enjoys!!! instead work with his/her strengths, and direct it into a positive thought. (this get creative) but when we are a parent with a child with autism/aspergers, us parents develop that creative side. Best luck, once you both work real hard to get through an obstacle, "its rewarding", then we get stuck with another. *smile*.HEATHER BEEM <gypsys_girl_beem@...> wrote: I know what you mean by not fitting all the symptoms for a specific diagnosis. Have you read about PPD-NOS? Alot of our kids fall into that catagory. I didnt think my son had all the symptoms to be diagnosed either, but when a pprofessional did his eval, he pointed out things to me I had never concitered. my son was diagnosed as early infantile autism, but i htink if re evaled now, hed have hfa or aspergers. My son also bites and throws stuff etc when he's excited. KNowing he does this because hes happy makes dicipline hard for me to do. I pull him aside and explain as best as I can.. sense he's three to do what Rose said, to high five. that has worked really well for him because he gets the deep pressure of the hand slap, its a big full body movement (at least the way alex does it.. ha ha)

and he gets to shout "high five". it kind of gets some of that "big feeling" out in a approiriate way. i would tell those teachers that told you to remove him from the zoo altogether to read about the new laws in place that not only advocate for inclusion, but make exclusion illegal. If you get him diagnosed anywhere on the spectrum, id ask he remain in a typical classroom with an aid to be with him at all times to help him replace those negative ways of showing joy with habbits that draw friends in, not scare them off! As for hte Zoo, or any field trip from here on out, go with him as a chaperone. then if the situation gets out of hand again because the teachers are unqualified to recognise the child has chalanges beyond his control, you will be there to advocate for his best interest, and remind them of the laws regarding the treatment of ASD students. Sorrry, but that part about the zoo kinda bothered me.. how mean to make him leave! Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote: Hello , that is so awesome you are able to talk to him and he can explain to you his feelings, (on why he does that - hitting & biting). If he says he does it because he is excited??, can you explain another appropriate way for him to show his excitement? some children with aspergers don't know how to replace a bad habit unless shown a good habit to replace it with. example, when excited that he has a new friend - instead of biting - teach him to do a 'hi - five'. or clap his hands, or just say yeah!!! but make it very clear that biting is not allowed. hope this was helpful? *smile*sunnyklynne

<sunnyklynne > wrote: My son has not be diagnosed with asoergers but I am looking into it. I was wondering if bitting or hitting when happy or excited is a symptom. My son bit a little girl in class because he was happy she was going to be his freind, another time when his cousing came over he got so excited he threw his bookbag at him. And today we went to the zoo on a feild trip and he bit someone on the bus. The school asked me to take him home and not allow him to go to the zoo. When I asked him why he did this he said because he was excited. Then I asked him why he did this when he was happy he said because his brain doesn't work right. He said he has thoughts. I know this is impulsive, which he is very. I am looking into aspergers but I don't see that his has all the things.

He does have a hard time socializing and he doesn't have any friends. He is 6 years old and in Kindergarten. We held him back last year. His brother is 5 and isn't like him. I just see that he is different. Not as mature as others his age. Thank you for your imput. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos.

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Willa, this is why when I'm reading books about autism/aspergers it was too confusing for me. nothing relates. then maybe after reading a whole book only one thing would relate. then I would think, maybe it's not autism/aspergers. then we would have days that I 'know' its correct. but, this site is better than all the books I've read. so many parents post so many different topics/things from their experience with their child that "I can relate", and learn from. I guess that's why it's so hard for the school/teachers to understand our situation. They are taught from books, not a child with autism/aspergers living it 24/7 like us. being though each AS child is so very different. books help, but not as much as another parent that lives it, that can help. from what I understand, you don't have to have every symptom on the list to say, that person has

aspergers. I think if you answer 'yes' to approx 10 question on that list, you might want to get evaluated for autism/aspergers.Willa Hunt <willaful@...> wrote: On Dec 15, 8:27am, "sunnyklynne" wrote:} I am almost in tears thinking that there really is a reason that my son=20} is the way he is. I don't know if this is what he has and won't know=20} till I get him tested but it is a start. I first thought he had ADD=20} and I'm still not sure that he doesn't seems AS is very similar

to=20} ADD. The thing about AS that I'm not sure about is the major anger=20} issues. My son does have some but he doesn't go around breaking=20As someone wise once said, if you've met one person with autism,you've met one person with autism. IIRC, anger issues aren'tin the DSM IV diagnostic criteria, but even if they are, every personwith AS won't necessarily have every issue. Willa

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Not all O.T. specialize in sensory. I found that out???? at first I went through an OT and asked if they specialize in sensory and was told yes. When I got a person that specialized in sensory. I got a ton of information, recommendations for home and school. lots of explaining on why my son did things he did. like biting on his sleeves, fist, or trying to fit his whole fist into his mouth. she said he was trying to get more information/input. but that was only one little example. another little example is why my son likes to give/get bear hugs. He needs that much more pressure to feel it. He has hi tolerance to pain, So, a little hug doesn't feel as good as a tight bear hug. And if he doesn't feel it "neither can anyone else" so, he'll do it that much stronger to them as well. (so they can feel it). debramelamed

<melamedj@...> wrote: You definitley need to get an eval from an OT versed in sensory integration. It will help and things will get better.All my best,Debbie

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Maybe gum will be the new "med" of the future. I better get some stock in Hubba Bubba right now. RobinRose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote: Hello Robin, that is something that you posted this about the gum. My therapist said to give my son gum or something to chew on because it calms him down. Also, if he is over stimulated, gum works for that too. And for some reason, it works. when he is chewing gum, he seems more focused.

AMAZING???. our therapist is trying to teach him to recognize when he is anxious, hyper, overstimulated, for 'him' to ask for gum to calm down. *great idea*... and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs > wrote: My son is allowed to chew gum. It's obvious when you give a kid gum cause the "like it" and when you give a kid gum, cause it calms them.Robin Neylon <Lindee37verizon (DOT) net> wrote: From: debramelamed <melamedjcomcast (DOT) net>Date: 2007/04/17 Tue PM 10:17:23 CDT Subject: Re: ( ) bitting or hitting when happy or excitedgum chewing is being used more and more even in schools.He sounds like he is in high arousal mode - overstimulated and seeking oral sensory input. If he had a drink in his hand with a straw in it that he could suck on, perhaps with a thick milkshake in it he could suck and chew instead of biting. Read about SI and get some ideas. Chewing gum is another one. Some things are alerting and some are calming. Try some things at home and see what works, then you can let the school know.Good luck,Debbie"I must have walked ten million milesMust have walked ten million milesWore some shoes that weren't my styleFell into the rank and fileSo just say I was here a whileA fool in search of your sweet smileTen million

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We did OT for sensory and had great results. They trained me to

carry on at home and it's worked out really well.

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On Dec 15, 9:10pm, Rose wrote:

} this is why when I'm reading books about autism/aspergers it was too

confusing for me. nothing relates. then maybe after reading a whole book only

one thing would relate. then I would think, maybe it's not autism/aspergers.

then we would have days that I 'know' its correct. but, this site is better

than all the books I've read. so many parents post so many different

topics/things from their experience with their child that " I can relate " , and

learn from. I guess that's why it's so hard for the school/teachers to

understand our situation. They are taught from books, not a child with

autism/aspergers living it 24/7 like us. being though each AS child is so very

different. books help, but not as much as another parent that lives it, that can

help.

I hear you, Rose - when I was first concerned about Bam, I would read site

after site and just get more confused than ever. Sometimes it sounded

like him, but then there were things that were so different... the

first time I found a book that really did relate (The Parents Guide

to High Functioning Autism and Asperger Syndrome) it was such a relief!

Especially since all the autism sites were so gloom and doomy.

It can be really hard to find the right information, especially when

you're not entirely sure what you're looking for. I honestly think

the Internet can hurt more than it helps in this stage, though it

is tremendously helpful once you know what you're actually dealing with.

But for diagnosis, I really think you need professional help.

Willa