Re: How do you deal with prejudice?

September 17, 2006

Those folks that judge whether you are good enough for the dog are a different

" breed " on their own. We tried to get a dog once. I can't remember why we

failed the test too. I think just because we had little kids at all and they

didn't think little kids would be acceptable for dogs. Either go alone if you

want to get a dog or just realize that they are that way to a lot of people.

As for her telling you that whole story - wow. That is pretty rude of her. If

I were her friend, I would have died to know she was telling everyone things

like that.

Roxanna

( ) How do you deal with prejudice?

Hi, I've posted on this board before but mostly lurk, soaking up

info! The past couple of weeks have been hard because I've been

smacked in the face with the reality of ignorance! It all started

when I went to a dog rescue to see about a dog I found on petfinder.

It's an outside rescue, I had (4 yo son with AS) with me.

He had his little red Wiggles guitar with him to keep him occupied.

We were outside, he was playing his guitar, dancing, singing and

*gently* tossing rocks with two other children that were there. He

was never aggressive towards any of the dogs there. We have two dogs

at home, one being 160 lb. My son is well aware of dog body language

(not so for human body language!) and the 'rules' of apporaching

dogs. I left and arranged to go back the following week. I went

back the next week with a friend, stayed home with DH. I

spent some time alone with the dog and decided to bring my dogs back

another day to meet him and 'seal the deal'. That night I received

an email from the rescue lady saying that she was reminded by a

volunteer that my 'little boy' was too hyper active and she didn't

believe that she could send this dog home with us. Was I ever mad!

I don't like to share my family's personal info with people but

thought if I told her, she might have a change of heart. I told her

that my son has AS and gets over stimulated in unfamiliar

situations. I assured her that he is good with dogs and that he's

not 'always' hyper (he wasn't even really hyper...just outside,

playing!). This is the reply I got from her:

I am sorry that your son has autism..I knew a woman whose daughter

had it

and at age 5 killed their family german shepard while MAry Ann

was in the yard hanging laundry,,,the kid beat the dog til its liver

ruptured...autism can be very hard to deal with and along with that

comes stress as it progresses...my friend Micheals daughter tried to

stab

him 2 years ago in one of her episodes so they put her away again

but

then she turned 18 and got out on her own and is now pregnant...very

sad... I was unaware of your situation

Howver my responsibility is for Homer to get into a situtation thats

best for him...and i dont think he deserves a home with a child that

gets hyper...and if he gets hit enough with things he may react

negatively... *end*

I don't see how 'hyper' translates into 'dog killer', I'm ready to

throttle this woman. It hurt me to my core to think that someone

could perceive my son that way. He's a four year old baby for God

Sakes!

Anyway, how do you deal with prejudice? I'm having a tough time with

this one!

Thanks,

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September 17, 2006

Is there any way you can go through another rescue agency?

She sounds like SUCH a nasty person! My goodness! I wouldn't use her

for pet rescue again if she's THAT judgmental about people. And WOW is

she misinformed. What? Every kid w/ autism is a dog killer? what about

those punks in Atlanta this week who BAKED a puppy?! What about

them??? I don't believe that kids w/ autism end up being abusive.

Maybe some do, but some " normal " kids do, too. She made a

generalization and she was WRONG to do that.

*HUG* That is so infuriating.

~

>

> Hi, I've posted on this board before but mostly lurk, soaking up

> info! The past couple of weeks have been hard because I've been

> smacked in the face with the reality of ignorance! It all started

> when I went to a dog rescue to see about a dog I found on petfinder.

> It's an outside rescue, I had (4 yo son with AS) with me.

> He had his little red Wiggles guitar with him to keep him occupied.

> We were outside, he was playing his guitar, dancing, singing and

> *gently* tossing rocks with two other children that were there. He

> was never aggressive towards any of the dogs there. We have two dogs

> at home, one being 160 lb. My son is well aware of dog body language

> (not so for human body language!) and the 'rules' of apporaching

> dogs. I left and arranged to go back the following week. I went

> back the next week with a friend, stayed home with DH. I

> spent some time alone with the dog and decided to bring my dogs back

> another day to meet him and 'seal the deal'. That night I received

> an email from the rescue lady saying that she was reminded by a

> volunteer that my 'little boy' was too hyper active and she didn't

> believe that she could send this dog home with us. Was I ever mad!

> I don't like to share my family's personal info with people but

> thought if I told her, she might have a change of heart. I told her

> that my son has AS and gets over stimulated in unfamiliar

> situations. I assured her that he is good with dogs and that he's

> not 'always' hyper (he wasn't even really hyper...just outside,

> playing!). This is the reply I got from her:

>

> I am sorry that your son has autism..I knew a woman whose daughter

> had it

> and at age 5 killed their family german shepard while MAry Ann

> was in the yard hanging laundry,,,the kid beat the dog til its liver

> ruptured...autism can be very hard to deal with and along with that

> comes stress as it progresses...my friend Micheals daughter tried to

> stab

> him 2 years ago in one of her episodes so they put her away again

> but

> then she turned 18 and got out on her own and is now pregnant...very

> sad... I was unaware of your situation

> Howver my responsibility is for Homer to get into a situtation thats

> best for him...and i dont think he deserves a home with a child that

> gets hyper...and if he gets hit enough with things he may react

> negatively... *end*

>

> I don't see how 'hyper' translates into 'dog killer', I'm ready to

> throttle this woman. It hurt me to my core to think that someone

> could perceive my son that way. He's a four year old baby for God

> Sakes!

>

> Anyway, how do you deal with prejudice? I'm having a tough time with

> this one!

>

> Thanks,

>

September 17, 2006

> >

> > Hi, I've posted on this board before but mostly lurk, soaking up

> > info! The past couple of weeks have been hard because I've been

> > smacked in the face with the reality of ignorance! It all

started

> > when I went to a dog rescue to see about a dog I found on

petfinder.

> > It's an outside rescue, I had (4 yo son with AS) with

me.

> > He had his little red Wiggles guitar with him to keep him

occupied.

> > We were outside, he was playing his guitar, dancing, singing and

> > *gently* tossing rocks with two other children that were there.

He

> > was never aggressive towards any of the dogs there. We have two

dogs

> > at home, one being 160 lb. My son is well aware of dog body

language

> > (not so for human body language!) and the 'rules' of apporaching

> > dogs. I left and arranged to go back the following week. I went

> > back the next week with a friend, stayed home with DH.

I

> > spent some time alone with the dog and decided to bring my dogs

back

> > another day to meet him and 'seal the deal'. That night I

received

> > an email from the rescue lady saying that she was reminded by a

> > volunteer that my 'little boy' was too hyper active and she

didn't

> > believe that she could send this dog home with us. Was I ever

mad!

> > I don't like to share my family's personal info with people but

> > thought if I told her, she might have a change of heart. I told

her

> > that my son has AS and gets over stimulated in unfamiliar

> > situations. I assured her that he is good with dogs and that

he's

> > not 'always' hyper (he wasn't even really hyper...just outside,

> > playing!). This is the reply I got from her:

> >

> > I am sorry that your son has autism..I knew a woman whose

daughter

> > had it

> > and at age 5 killed their family german shepard while

MAry Ann

> > was in the yard hanging laundry,,,the kid beat the dog til its

liver

> > ruptured...autism can be very hard to deal with and along with

that

> > comes stress as it progresses...my friend Micheals daughter tried

to

> > stab

> > him 2 years ago in one of her episodes so they put her away

again

> > but

> > then she turned 18 and got out on her own and is now

pregnant...very

> > sad... I was unaware of your situation

> > Howver my responsibility is for Homer to get into a situtation

thats

> > best for him...and i dont think he deserves a home with a child

that

> > gets hyper...and if he gets hit enough with things he may react

> > negatively... *end*

> >

> > I don't see how 'hyper' translates into 'dog killer', I'm ready

to

> > throttle this woman. It hurt me to my core to think that someone

> > could perceive my son that way. He's a four year old baby for

God

> > Sakes!

> >

> > Anyway, how do you deal with prejudice? I'm having a tough time

with

> > this one!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

>

September 17, 2006

**Hugs** back to you!

I could get a different dog...but there was 'something' about this

one...he reminded me of a dog I had growing up, he has deformed front

legs and is living in filth at this crazy woman's place (I called

animal control b/c of the conditions there)

She's just evil.

Thank you guys for validating the fact that she was off base with her

comments!

> >

> > Hi, I've posted on this board before but mostly lurk, soaking up

> > info! The past couple of weeks have been hard because I've been

> > smacked in the face with the reality of ignorance! It all

started

> > when I went to a dog rescue to see about a dog I found on

petfinder.

> > It's an outside rescue, I had (4 yo son with AS) with

me.

> > He had his little red Wiggles guitar with him to keep him

occupied.

> > We were outside, he was playing his guitar, dancing, singing and

> > *gently* tossing rocks with two other children that were there.

He

> > was never aggressive towards any of the dogs there. We have two

dogs

> > at home, one being 160 lb. My son is well aware of dog body

language

> > (not so for human body language!) and the 'rules' of apporaching

> > dogs. I left and arranged to go back the following week. I went

> > back the next week with a friend, stayed home with DH.

I

> > spent some time alone with the dog and decided to bring my dogs

back

> > another day to meet him and 'seal the deal'. That night I

received

> > an email from the rescue lady saying that she was reminded by a

> > volunteer that my 'little boy' was too hyper active and she

didn't

> > believe that she could send this dog home with us. Was I ever

mad!

> > I don't like to share my family's personal info with people but

> > thought if I told her, she might have a change of heart. I told

her

> > that my son has AS and gets over stimulated in unfamiliar

> > situations. I assured her that he is good with dogs and that

he's

> > not 'always' hyper (he wasn't even really hyper...just outside,

> > playing!). This is the reply I got from her:

> >

> > I am sorry that your son has autism..I knew a woman whose

daughter

> > had it

> > and at age 5 killed their family german shepard while

MAry Ann

> > was in the yard hanging laundry,,,the kid beat the dog til its

liver

> > ruptured...autism can be very hard to deal with and along with

that

> > comes stress as it progresses...my friend Micheals daughter tried

to

> > stab

> > him 2 years ago in one of her episodes so they put her away

again

> > but

> > then she turned 18 and got out on her own and is now

pregnant...very

> > sad... I was unaware of your situation

> > Howver my responsibility is for Homer to get into a situtation

thats

> > best for him...and i dont think he deserves a home with a child

that

> > gets hyper...and if he gets hit enough with things he may react

> > negatively... *end*

> >

> > I don't see how 'hyper' translates into 'dog killer', I'm ready

to

> > throttle this woman. It hurt me to my core to think that someone

> > could perceive my son that way. He's a four year old baby for

God

> > Sakes!

> >

> > Anyway, how do you deal with prejudice? I'm having a tough time

with

> > this one!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

>

September 18, 2006

, I am ABSOLUTELY disgusted with this. I can't even imagine, but

I have met so many ignorant people. The ones I can't stand are the

ones that refuse to learn. That makes them more ignorant than ever!

I would have to say (I am behind, but hopefully can catch up to other

responses!)

That this is a CLEAR CUT CASE to take to the papers, or maybe even a

local news channel. Time to straighten that idea about some child with

Autism KIlling DOGS. Granted a lot of Autistic kids any where on the

spectrum, that don't have dogs may (MAY) have to get used to dogs.

THey are, after all unpredictable. But many (MANY) kids on the

spectrum (I'd even dare say more!) that have contact with dogs love

them more, and understand these dogs better than people!

You can spread this word out.

I would do it today if you can!

Just my idea, but this is absolutely rediculous. Lucky you , you have

a letter you can show them. I am glad she wrote you. Proof is hard to

get with words not written down!

Keep us updated. I think your son deserves some action!

*smiles*

B

> > throttle this woman. It hurt me to my core to think that someone

> > could perceive my son that way. He's a four year old baby for God

> > Sakes!

> >

> > Anyway, how do you deal with prejudice? I'm having a tough time

with

> > this one!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

>

September 18, 2006

Well I hope by some chance that you get that animal! And good for you

for claling animal control. Rescue isn't really a rescue if they live

in filth.

>

> **Hugs** back to you!

> I could get a different dog...but there was 'something' about this

> one...he reminded me of a dog I had growing up, he has deformed front

> legs and is living in filth at this crazy woman's place (I called

> animal control b/c of the conditions there)

> She's just evil.

>

> Thank you guys for validating the fact that she was off base with her

> comments!

>

September 18, 2006

We have a 4 mo old puppy that we got from a friend 2 weeks ago. My

aspie is a bit indifferent to her, but when he is in ocntact with her

he is just as loving as anyone could be. My in laws also have dogs and

my son plays with them, too.

It is infuriating that anyone could assume that an autistic child

would abuse the animal. Infuriating.

>

> , I am ABSOLUTELY disgusted with this. I can't even imagine, but

> I have met so many ignorant people. The ones I can't stand are the

> ones that refuse to learn. That makes them more ignorant than ever!

>

> I would have to say (I am behind, but hopefully can catch up to other

> responses!)

> That this is a CLEAR CUT CASE to take to the papers, or maybe even a

> local news channel. Time to straighten that idea about some child with

> Autism KIlling DOGS. Granted a lot of Autistic kids any where on the

> spectrum, that don't have dogs may (MAY) have to get used to dogs.

> THey are, after all unpredictable. But many (MANY) kids on the

> spectrum (I'd even dare say more!) that have contact with dogs love

> them more, and understand these dogs better than people!

>

> You can spread this word out.

> I would do it today if you can!

> Just my idea, but this is absolutely rediculous. Lucky you , you have

> a letter you can show them. I am glad she wrote you. Proof is hard to

> get with words not written down!

>

> Keep us updated. I think your son deserves some action!

>

> *smiles*

> B

>

September 18, 2006

This is very upsetting. I volunteer with a dog rescue group. Please

realize that not all are this prejudice and neurotic. (I deal with double

prejudice, I help rescue Rottweilers and have a son with AS) :-)

If she is that closed minded, I don't know what your chances are in getting

the dog. And if they are not living in good conditions, I am very glad you

called the AC.

However, you can try to educate by letting people know that dogs are more

frequently being used as service dogs to the autistic and Aspies because of

the calm they provide.

I have considered trying to get my son a service AS dog, as he can't handle

contact from a person when he starts a meltdown, but there is a good chance

he will from a dog. My problem is the breed we have has it's own prejudice

out there, so double whammy. Another thing is (our group is picky - we do

home checks but it lets us observe the dog interacting with the people in

the setting it would live in :-)) possibly suggest that the person observe

your child at home, in the setting the dog would be in, and where your child

is comfortable. However, I am not sure I would want this woman at my house.

Some rescue people that take on too many animals, I think are a bit AS/OCD

in a way - they identify with the animals better than humans, the animals

are their 'thing' that they obsess over, and they don't deal with people as

well. This does NOT mean I am sticking up for this lady.

If you would like I would be happy to talk to someone as a rescuer that has

a child with AS. But again - it doesn't sound like this woman wants to be

educated.

I would write her back and tell her that what she said to you is no

different than BSL - breed specific legislation - judging a dog by the breed

NOT the temperament. And that you would expect more from someone that is

claiming to help the dogs.

Kathy K

toozie@...

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of heres2pyrs

Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:41 AM

Subject: ( ) How do you deal with prejudice?

Hi, I've posted on this board before but mostly lurk, soaking up

info! The past couple of weeks have been hard because I've been

smacked in the face with the reality of ignorance! It all started

when I went to a dog rescue to see about a dog I found on petfinder.

It's an outside rescue, I had (4 yo son with AS) with me.

He had his little red Wiggles guitar with him to keep him occupied.

We were outside, he was playing his guitar, dancing, singing and

*gently* tossing rocks with two other children that were there. He

was never aggressive towards any of the dogs there. We have two dogs

at home, one being 160 lb. My son is well aware of dog body language

(not so for human body language!) and the 'rules' of apporaching

dogs. I left and arranged to go back the following week. I went

back the next week with a friend, stayed home with DH. I

spent some time alone with the dog and decided to bring my dogs back

another day to meet him and 'seal the deal'. That night I received

an email from the rescue lady saying that she was reminded by a

volunteer that my 'little boy' was too hyper active and she didn't

believe that she could send this dog home with us. Was I ever mad!

I don't like to share my family's personal info with people but

thought if I told her, she might have a change of heart. I told her

that my son has AS and gets over stimulated in unfamiliar

situations. I assured her that he is good with dogs and that he's

not 'always' hyper (he wasn't even really hyper...just outside,

playing!). This is the reply I got from her:

I am sorry that your son has autism..I knew a woman whose daughter

had it

and at age 5 killed their family german shepard while MAry Ann

was in the yard hanging laundry,,,the kid beat the dog til its liver

ruptured...autism can be very hard to deal with and along with that

comes stress as it progresses...my friend Micheals daughter tried to

stab

him 2 years ago in one of her episodes so they put her away again

but

then she turned 18 and got out on her own and is now pregnant...very

sad... I was unaware of your situation

Howver my responsibility is for Homer to get into a situtation thats

best for him...and i dont think he deserves a home with a child that

gets hyper...and if he gets hit enough with things he may react

negatively... *end*

I don't see how 'hyper' translates into 'dog killer', I'm ready to

throttle this woman. It hurt me to my core to think that someone

could perceive my son that way. He's a four year old baby for God

Sakes!

Anyway, how do you deal with prejudice? I'm having a tough time with

this one!

Thanks,

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September 18, 2006

I respect and admire anybody who does rescue, esp. those who

rescue " scary " dogs like rotties, pits, etc. I personally don't

think they're scary, but you know what I mean. I have two great

pyrenees dogs, one weighs in at 160 lb so my son knows the boundries

of playing and interacting with dogs. He 'wrestles' with them but

doesn't particularly want to do so with other kids!

This idiot certainly doesn't want to be educated. She has a dog at

her place that is neurologically impaired. She had a coccydia

outbreak and this poor dog was just leaking diarrhea out of her while

walking, laying down, whenever. She lives outside so she was

infested with maggots which the woman promptly treated but continued

to leave the dog outside. A friend and I are on a dog message board

(dogaddicts.com) and one of the members offered to send the $ to have

the dog euthed. and this woman wouldn't go for it. This was her

response:

" Girl is doing wonderful after her meds this week,,,the dog was born

crippled and she shouldnt be judged for it either just as you dont

want

your son judged...

See? it's like banging your head against the wall!

>

> This is very upsetting. I volunteer with a dog rescue group.

Please

> realize that not all are this prejudice and neurotic. (I deal with

double

> prejudice, I help rescue Rottweilers and have a son with AS) :-)

>

> If she is that closed minded, I don't know what your chances are in

getting

> the dog. And if they are not living in good conditions, I am very

glad you

> called the AC.

>

> However, you can try to educate by letting people know that dogs

are more

> frequently being used as service dogs to the autistic and Aspies

because of

> the calm they provide.

>

> I have considered trying to get my son a service AS dog, as he

can't handle

> contact from a person when he starts a meltdown, but there is a

good chance

> he will from a dog. My problem is the breed we have has it's own

prejudice

> out there, so double whammy. Another thing is (our group is

picky - we do

> home checks but it lets us observe the dog interacting with the

people in

> the setting it would live in :-)) possibly suggest that the person

observe

> your child at home, in the setting the dog would be in, and where

your child

> is comfortable. However, I am not sure I would want this woman at

my house.

>

> Some rescue people that take on too many animals, I think are a bit

AS/OCD

> in a way - they identify with the animals better than humans, the

animals

> are their 'thing' that they obsess over, and they don't deal with

people as

> well. This does NOT mean I am sticking up for this lady.

>

> If you would like I would be happy to talk to someone as a rescuer

that has

> a child with AS. But again - it doesn't sound like this woman

wants to be

> educated.

>

> I would write her back and tell her that what she said to you is no

> different than BSL - breed specific legislation - judging a dog by

the breed

> NOT the temperament. And that you would expect more from someone

that is

> claiming to help the dogs.

>

> Kathy K

> toozie@...

>

> _____

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of heres2pyrs

> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:41 AM

>

> Subject: ( ) How do you deal with prejudice?

>

> Hi, I've posted on this board before but mostly lurk, soaking up

> info! The past couple of weeks have been hard because I've been

> smacked in the face with the reality of ignorance! It all started

> when I went to a dog rescue to see about a dog I found on

petfinder.

> It's an outside rescue, I had (4 yo son with AS) with me.

> He had his little red Wiggles guitar with him to keep him occupied.

> We were outside, he was playing his guitar, dancing, singing and

> *gently* tossing rocks with two other children that were there. He

> was never aggressive towards any of the dogs there. We have two

dogs

> at home, one being 160 lb. My son is well aware of dog body

language

> (not so for human body language!) and the 'rules' of apporaching

> dogs. I left and arranged to go back the following week. I went

> back the next week with a friend, stayed home with DH. I

> spent some time alone with the dog and decided to bring my dogs

back

> another day to meet him and 'seal the deal'. That night I received

> an email from the rescue lady saying that she was reminded by a

> volunteer that my 'little boy' was too hyper active and she didn't

> believe that she could send this dog home with us. Was I ever mad!

> I don't like to share my family's personal info with people but

> thought if I told her, she might have a change of heart. I told her

> that my son has AS and gets over stimulated in unfamiliar

> situations. I assured her that he is good with dogs and that he's

> not 'always' hyper (he wasn't even really hyper...just outside,

> playing!). This is the reply I got from her:

>

> I am sorry that your son has autism..I knew a woman whose daughter

> had it

> and at age 5 killed their family german shepard while MAry

Ann

> was in the yard hanging laundry,,,the kid beat the dog til its liver

> ruptured...autism can be very hard to deal with and along with that

> comes stress as it progresses...my friend Micheals daughter tried

to

> stab

> him 2 years ago in one of her episodes so they put her away again

> but

> then she turned 18 and got out on her own and is now pregnant...very

> sad... I was unaware of your situation

> Howver my responsibility is for Homer to get into a situtation thats

> best for him...and i dont think he deserves a home with a child that

> gets hyper...and if he gets hit enough with things he may react

> negatively... *end*

>

> I don't see how 'hyper' translates into 'dog killer', I'm ready to

> throttle this woman. It hurt me to my core to think that someone

> could perceive my son that way. He's a four year old baby for God

> Sakes!

>

> Anyway, how do you deal with prejudice? I'm having a tough time

with

> this one!

>

> Thanks,

>

> _____

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September 19, 2006

> >

> > This is very upsetting. I volunteer with a dog rescue group.

> Please

> > realize that not all are this prejudice and neurotic. (I deal

with

> double

> > prejudice, I help rescue Rottweilers and have a son with AS) :-)

> >

> > If she is that closed minded, I don't know what your chances are

in

> getting

> > the dog. And if they are not living in good conditions, I am very

> glad you

> > called the AC.

> >

> > However, you can try to educate by letting people know that dogs

> are more

> > frequently being used as service dogs to the autistic and Aspies

> because of

> > the calm they provide.

> >

> > I have considered trying to get my son a service AS dog, as he

> can't handle

> > contact from a person when he starts a meltdown, but there is a

> good chance

> > he will from a dog. My problem is the breed we have has it's own

> prejudice

> > out there, so double whammy. Another thing is (our group is

> picky - we do

> > home checks but it lets us observe the dog interacting with the

> people in

> > the setting it would live in :-)) possibly suggest that the

person

> observe

> > your child at home, in the setting the dog would be in, and where

> your child

> > is comfortable. However, I am not sure I would want this woman

at

> my house.

> >

> > Some rescue people that take on too many animals, I think are a

bit

> AS/OCD

> > in a way - they identify with the animals better than humans, the

> animals

> > are their 'thing' that they obsess over, and they don't deal with

> people as

> > well. This does NOT mean I am sticking up for this lady.

> >

> > If you would like I would be happy to talk to someone as a

rescuer

> that has

> > a child with AS. But again - it doesn't sound like this woman

> wants to be

> > educated.

> >

> > I would write her back and tell her that what she said to you is

no

> > different than BSL - breed specific legislation - judging a dog

by

> the breed

> > NOT the temperament. And that you would expect more from someone

> that is

> > claiming to help the dogs.

> >

> > Kathy K

> > toozie@

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From:

> > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of heres2pyrs

> > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:41 AM

> >

> > Subject: ( ) How do you deal with prejudice?

> >

> > Hi, I've posted on this board before but mostly lurk, soaking up

> > info! The past couple of weeks have been hard because I've been

> > smacked in the face with the reality of ignorance! It all started

> > when I went to a dog rescue to see about a dog I found on

> petfinder.

> > It's an outside rescue, I had (4 yo son with AS) with

me.

> > He had his little red Wiggles guitar with him to keep him

occupied.

> > We were outside, he was playing his guitar, dancing, singing and

> > *gently* tossing rocks with two other children that were there.

He

> > was never aggressive towards any of the dogs there. We have two

> dogs

> > at home, one being 160 lb. My son is well aware of dog body

> language

> > (not so for human body language!) and the 'rules' of apporaching

> > dogs. I left and arranged to go back the following week. I went

> > back the next week with a friend, stayed home with DH. I

> > spent some time alone with the dog and decided to bring my dogs

> back

> > another day to meet him and 'seal the deal'. That night I

received

> > an email from the rescue lady saying that she was reminded by a

> > volunteer that my 'little boy' was too hyper active and she

didn't

> > believe that she could send this dog home with us. Was I ever

mad!

> > I don't like to share my family's personal info with people but

> > thought if I told her, she might have a change of heart. I told

her

> > that my son has AS and gets over stimulated in unfamiliar

> > situations. I assured her that he is good with dogs and that he's

> > not 'always' hyper (he wasn't even really hyper...just outside,

> > playing!). This is the reply I got from her:

> >

> > I am sorry that your son has autism..I knew a woman whose

daughter

> > had it

> > and at age 5 killed their family german shepard while

MAry

> Ann

> > was in the yard hanging laundry,,,the kid beat the dog til its

liver

> > ruptured...autism can be very hard to deal with and along with

that

> > comes stress as it progresses...my friend Micheals daughter tried

> to

> > stab

> > him 2 years ago in one of her episodes so they put her away again

> > but

> > then she turned 18 and got out on her own and is now

pregnant...very

> > sad... I was unaware of your situation

> > Howver my responsibility is for Homer to get into a situtation

thats

> > best for him...and i dont think he deserves a home with a child

that

> > gets hyper...and if he gets hit enough with things he may react

> > negatively... *end*

> >

> > I don't see how 'hyper' translates into 'dog killer', I'm ready

to

> > throttle this woman. It hurt me to my core to think that someone

> > could perceive my son that way. He's a four year old baby for God

> > Sakes!

> >

> > Anyway, how do you deal with prejudice? I'm having a tough time

> with

> > this one!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > _____

> >

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> >

September 19, 2006

Yea, I was kinda figuring she would not listen, we have a few like that

where I live even. Frustrating, but we are limited in what we can do.

I have a friend here that rescues pyrs. Unfortunately most that she gets in

are unsocialized, so she can't bring them to the adopted events, too

stressful.

I hope the AC is able to make a difference, maybe if they wind up pulling

some of the dogs, you can still get the one you were looking at, sounds like

he would be much better off with you.

Kathy K

toozie@...

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of heres2pyrs

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:41 PM

Subject: Re: ( ) How do you deal with prejudice?