Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 I can tell you that that is unequivitably NOT TRUE. The national Education Association is dedicated to fostering the fact that every child has the right to a quality basic public education. The part about gays and other things that those that are against the NEA would like for you all to know is that we support those in government that support public also tend to support those causes. But please understand, the NEA only supports platform for public education. ( ) National Educators Association Priorities Please tell me it isn't so! This truly disturbed me: " before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " " http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AlanSears/2006/08/25/the_curious_ca se_of_nea_priorities Full article below: The curious case of NEA priorities By Alan Sears Friday, August 25, 2006 It is, arguably, the most powerful union and lobbying group in the country. And you cannot envy what its members are up against. Day after day, the National Education Association (NEA) sees the same statistics we do. Plunging test scores. Floods of incoming college freshman who can't read at even a sixth-grade level. Principals and school boards groping for incentives that will draw better teachers into lifelong service for high stress and infrequent appreciation. Instead of embracing the joys of books and learning, America's children are gorging junk food on the couch, dabbling with R-rated music videos and video games while their synapses run headlong down blind brain alleys. Teacher morale remains low, as many grapple daily with parents who are disengaged and apathetic, neurotic or demanding, angry or eager to move their child into alternative educational settings. Add to all that the professional pressures inherent in " No Child Left Behind, " and you can understand how the NEA leaders who gathered this summer in Orlando for their annual convention had their work cut out for them. The toughest question was undoubtedly the first one: where do we start, when it comes to fixing America's schools? Well, they figured it out. And, really, faced with so many incredible challenges, their priority makes sense. This is, after all, the NEA. They know the classroom. They know the teachers. They know the real challenges of education. Which is why their elected leaders decided that, before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " That's right. The all-knowing members of the NEA decided that what our kids need to know - more than math, geography, grammar, science, or computer skills - is what men and men see in each other, why women and women fall in love, and what our government and society " owes " those who practice homosexual behavior. You can see why that kind of information is critical to a third grader, can't you? Of course not. The NEA didn't think so. That's why they're taking the matter out of your hands. Listen, when the world's largest teacher's union elects to endorse same-sex " marriage, " they're not talking tacit support. They're talking posters and projects, classroom lectures and guest speakers, testimonials and textbooks - at every grade level, and in every public school, in every school district in America. Questions, of course, accumulate. Among them: What if a teacher or principal objects to same-sex unions, for reasons of personal faith or experience? What if said educator doesn't want his (often mandatory) NEA dues going to support those who promote homosexual behavior? What if parents don't want their children learning about sex (or sexual politics) at school? What if children are ill-equipped, mentally or emotionally, to handle the information presented by a zealous instructor? Either the NEA has considered, and dismissed, these questions - in which case the group that wants to exert the most significant impact on America's teachers, parents, and children turns out to have no real concern or compassion for our teachers, parents, or children... or else the union has not considered these crucial questions, in which case... ditto. Either way, the academic needs of children are no longer as much a priority for this organization as the political agenda of those who engage in homosexual behavior. Actually, that's not anything new for the teachers' union. The NEA has been working hand-in-glove for years with aggressive promoters of homosexual behavior. Indeed, former NEA president Bob Chase is a member of the board of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Educational Network), and once defended NEA's force-feeding of the homosexual agenda to children by warning that: " Some critics want the public schools to be an agent of moral doctrine, condemning children and adults when they are not in accord with Biblical precepts. " But if the NEA objects to teaching moral doctrines . how do they justify teaching immoral doctrines? If they're against teaching creationism, for example, for its spiritual implications, how can they favor sex education classes that indoctrinate even very young children with homosexual advocacy? How can they bar prayers, ministers and Christian clubs from campus, while organizing school assemblies, demonstrations, and classroom visits featuring homosexual and transgender " role models? " Clearly, the NEA has rejected its prima facie identity as the representative of America's teachers, in favor of a new raison d'etre: brainwashing schoolchildren into acceptance of, and even indulgence in, homosexual behavior. For the union's leaders, there will be no rest until families all over the country not only acknowledge, but embrace and endorse the homosexual agenda. It's as simple as A-B-C. What those pressing that agenda cannot win at the ballot box, they will win in the minds of the next generation... one vulnerable child at a time. Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor who held various posts in the departments of Justice and Interior during the Reagan Administration, is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation. Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. . 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Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 And after reading the full article I can tell you he really doesn't know what he is talking about because NO DUES MONEY goes to support a candidate. It is illegal for that to happen. The dues monies go to promote public education as well as to research those teaching programs that work and to help educate teachers on the programs that DO work. ( ) National Educators Association Priorities Please tell me it isn't so! This truly disturbed me: " before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " " http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AlanSears/2006/08/25/the_curious_ca se_of_nea_priorities Full article below: The curious case of NEA priorities By Alan Sears Friday, August 25, 2006 It is, arguably, the most powerful union and lobbying group in the country. And you cannot envy what its members are up against. Day after day, the National Education Association (NEA) sees the same statistics we do. Plunging test scores. Floods of incoming college freshman who can't read at even a sixth-grade level. Principals and school boards groping for incentives that will draw better teachers into lifelong service for high stress and infrequent appreciation. Instead of embracing the joys of books and learning, America's children are gorging junk food on the couch, dabbling with R-rated music videos and video games while their synapses run headlong down blind brain alleys. Teacher morale remains low, as many grapple daily with parents who are disengaged and apathetic, neurotic or demanding, angry or eager to move their child into alternative educational settings. Add to all that the professional pressures inherent in " No Child Left Behind, " and you can understand how the NEA leaders who gathered this summer in Orlando for their annual convention had their work cut out for them. The toughest question was undoubtedly the first one: where do we start, when it comes to fixing America's schools? Well, they figured it out. And, really, faced with so many incredible challenges, their priority makes sense. This is, after all, the NEA. They know the classroom. They know the teachers. They know the real challenges of education. Which is why their elected leaders decided that, before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " That's right. The all-knowing members of the NEA decided that what our kids need to know - more than math, geography, grammar, science, or computer skills - is what men and men see in each other, why women and women fall in love, and what our government and society " owes " those who practice homosexual behavior. You can see why that kind of information is critical to a third grader, can't you? Of course not. The NEA didn't think so. That's why they're taking the matter out of your hands. Listen, when the world's largest teacher's union elects to endorse same-sex " marriage, " they're not talking tacit support. They're talking posters and projects, classroom lectures and guest speakers, testimonials and textbooks - at every grade level, and in every public school, in every school district in America. Questions, of course, accumulate. Among them: What if a teacher or principal objects to same-sex unions, for reasons of personal faith or experience? What if said educator doesn't want his (often mandatory) NEA dues going to support those who promote homosexual behavior? What if parents don't want their children learning about sex (or sexual politics) at school? What if children are ill-equipped, mentally or emotionally, to handle the information presented by a zealous instructor? Either the NEA has considered, and dismissed, these questions - in which case the group that wants to exert the most significant impact on America's teachers, parents, and children turns out to have no real concern or compassion for our teachers, parents, or children... or else the union has not considered these crucial questions, in which case... ditto. Either way, the academic needs of children are no longer as much a priority for this organization as the political agenda of those who engage in homosexual behavior. Actually, that's not anything new for the teachers' union. The NEA has been working hand-in-glove for years with aggressive promoters of homosexual behavior. Indeed, former NEA president Bob Chase is a member of the board of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Educational Network), and once defended NEA's force-feeding of the homosexual agenda to children by warning that: " Some critics want the public schools to be an agent of moral doctrine, condemning children and adults when they are not in accord with Biblical precepts. " But if the NEA objects to teaching moral doctrines . how do they justify teaching immoral doctrines? If they're against teaching creationism, for example, for its spiritual implications, how can they favor sex education classes that indoctrinate even very young children with homosexual advocacy? How can they bar prayers, ministers and Christian clubs from campus, while organizing school assemblies, demonstrations, and classroom visits featuring homosexual and transgender " role models? " Clearly, the NEA has rejected its prima facie identity as the representative of America's teachers, in favor of a new raison d'etre: brainwashing schoolchildren into acceptance of, and even indulgence in, homosexual behavior. For the union's leaders, there will be no rest until families all over the country not only acknowledge, but embrace and endorse the homosexual agenda. It's as simple as A-B-C. What those pressing that agenda cannot win at the ballot box, they will win in the minds of the next generation... one vulnerable child at a time. Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor who held various posts in the departments of Justice and Interior during the Reagan Administration, is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation. Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. . Please write the NEA and tell them if you disagree! http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/contact.html Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 After reading this I went to the NEA's website and found this...... NEA:National Education Association Great Public Schools for Every Child Back to Issues in Education NEA Reconfirms Stance Against Discrimination A smear campaign launched by the American Family Association asserted that the National Education Association was set to " endorse homosexual marriage " at the 2006 Representative Assembly. Either the group is intentionally misleading the public, or didn't bother to check their information, but NEA has no plans to endorse same sex marriage and never did. At the Representative Assembly in Orlando, FL, more than 9,000 educators tackled critical issues facing public schools, teachers and students. That included multiple proposals to clarify existing resolutions and address diversity, discrimination, and civil unions. " Religious conservatives are using misinformation and smear campaigning to attack two of their favorite targets at once: marriage rights and public education, " said Reg Weaver, NEA president. " But delegates came to Florida to take care of business, and advocate for the welfare of their students. Campaigns of misinformation didn't derail that. " > > Please tell me it isn't so! This truly disturbed me: > > > > " before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win > popular support for homosexual " marriage. " " > > http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AlanSears/2006/08/25/the_curious_c a > se_of_nea_priorities > > > > Full article below: > > > > The curious case of NEA priorities > By Alan Sears > Friday, August 25, 2006 > > > It is, arguably, the most powerful union and lobbying group in the > country. And you cannot envy what its members are up against. > > Day after day, the National Education Association (NEA) sees the same > statistics we do. > > > > Plunging test scores. Floods of incoming college freshman who can't > read at even a sixth-grade level. Principals and school boards > groping for incentives that will draw better teachers into lifelong > service for high stress and infrequent appreciation. > > Instead of embracing the joys of books and learning, America's > children are gorging junk food on the couch, dabbling with R-rated > music videos and video games while their synapses run headlong down > blind brain alleys. > > > > Teacher morale remains low, as many grapple daily with parents who > are disengaged and apathetic, neurotic or demanding, angry or eager > to move their child into alternative educational settings. > > > > Add to all that the professional pressures inherent in " No Child Left > Behind, " and you can understand how the NEA leaders who gathered this > summer in Orlando for their annual convention had their work cut out > for them. The toughest question was undoubtedly the first one: where > do we start, when it comes to fixing America's schools? > > > > Well, they figured it out. And, really, faced with so many incredible > challenges, their priority makes sense. This is, after all, the NEA. > They know the classroom. They know the teachers. They know the real > challenges of education. > > > > Which is why their elected leaders decided that, before anything > else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support > for homosexual " marriage. " > > > > That's right. The all-knowing members of the NEA decided that what > our kids need to know – more than math, geography, grammar, science, > or computer skills – is what men and men see in each other, why women > and women fall in love, and what our government and society " owes " > those who practice homosexual behavior. > > > > You can see why that kind of information is critical to a third > grader, can't you? > > Of course not. The NEA didn't think so. That's why they're taking the > matter out of your hands. Listen, when the world's largest teacher's > union elects to endorse same-sex " marriage, " they're not talking > tacit support. They're talking posters and projects, classroom > lectures and guest speakers, testimonials and textbooks – at every > grade level, and in every public school, in every school district in > America. > > > > Questions, of course, accumulate. Among them: > > What if a teacher or principal objects to same-sex unions, for > reasons of personal faith or experience? What if said educator > doesn't want his (often mandatory) NEA dues going to support those > who promote homosexual behavior? What if parents don't want their > children learning about sex (or sexual politics) at school? What if > children are ill-equipped, mentally or emotionally, to handle the > information presented by a zealous instructor? > > > > Either the NEA has considered, and dismissed, these questions – in > which case the group that wants to exert the most significant impact > on America's teachers, parents, and children turns out to have no > real concern or compassion for our teachers, parents, or children... > or else the union has not considered these crucial questions, in > which case... ditto. > > > > Either way, the academic needs of children are no longer as much a > priority for this organization as the political agenda of those who > engage in homosexual behavior. > > Actually, that's not anything new for the teachers' union. The NEA > has been working hand-in-glove for years with aggressive promoters of > homosexual behavior. Indeed, former NEA president Bob Chase is a > member of the board of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Educational > Network), and once defended NEA's force-feeding of the homosexual > agenda to children by warning that: > > > > " Some critics want the public schools to be an agent of moral > doctrine, condemning children and adults when they are not in accord > with Biblical precepts. " > > But if the NEA objects to teaching moral doctrines … how do they > justify teaching immoral doctrines? If they're against teaching > creationism, for example, for its spiritual implications, how can > they favor sex education classes that indoctrinate even very young > children with homosexual advocacy? > > > > How can they bar prayers, ministers and Christian clubs from campus, > while organizing school assemblies, demonstrations, and classroom > visits featuring homosexual and transgender " role models? " > > > > Clearly, the NEA has rejected its prima facie identity as the > representative of America's teachers, in favor of a new raison > d'etre: brainwashing schoolchildren into acceptance of, and even > indulgence in, homosexual behavior. For the union's leaders, there > will be no rest until families all over the country not only > acknowledge, but embrace and endorse the homosexual agenda. > > > > It's as simple as A-B-C. What those pressing that agenda cannot win > at the ballot box, they will win in the minds of the next > generation... one vulnerable child at a time. > > Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor who held various posts in the > departments of Justice and Interior during the Reagan Administration, > is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance > defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, > training, funding, and litigation. > > Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. . > > > Please write the NEA and tell them if you disagree! > > http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/contact.html > > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 After reading this I went to the NEA's website and found this...... NEA:National Education Association Great Public Schools for Every Child Back to Issues in Education NEA Reconfirms Stance Against Discrimination A smear campaign launched by the American Family Association asserted that the National Education Association was set to " endorse homosexual marriage " at the 2006 Representative Assembly. Either the group is intentionally misleading the public, or didn't bother to check their information, but NEA has no plans to endorse same sex marriage and never did. At the Representative Assembly in Orlando, FL, more than 9,000 educators tackled critical issues facing public schools, teachers and students. That included multiple proposals to clarify existing resolutions and address diversity, discrimination, and civil unions. " Religious conservatives are using misinformation and smear campaigning to attack two of their favorite targets at once: marriage rights and public education, " said Reg Weaver, NEA president. " But delegates came to Florida to take care of business, and advocate for the welfare of their students. Campaigns of misinformation didn't derail that. " > > Please tell me it isn't so! This truly disturbed me: > > > > " before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win > popular support for homosexual " marriage. " " > > http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AlanSears/2006/08/25/the_curious_c a > se_of_nea_priorities > > > > Full article below: > > > > The curious case of NEA priorities > By Alan Sears > Friday, August 25, 2006 > > > It is, arguably, the most powerful union and lobbying group in the > country. And you cannot envy what its members are up against. > > Day after day, the National Education Association (NEA) sees the same > statistics we do. > > > > Plunging test scores. Floods of incoming college freshman who can't > read at even a sixth-grade level. Principals and school boards > groping for incentives that will draw better teachers into lifelong > service for high stress and infrequent appreciation. > > Instead of embracing the joys of books and learning, America's > children are gorging junk food on the couch, dabbling with R-rated > music videos and video games while their synapses run headlong down > blind brain alleys. > > > > Teacher morale remains low, as many grapple daily with parents who > are disengaged and apathetic, neurotic or demanding, angry or eager > to move their child into alternative educational settings. > > > > Add to all that the professional pressures inherent in " No Child Left > Behind, " and you can understand how the NEA leaders who gathered this > summer in Orlando for their annual convention had their work cut out > for them. The toughest question was undoubtedly the first one: where > do we start, when it comes to fixing America's schools? > > > > Well, they figured it out. And, really, faced with so many incredible > challenges, their priority makes sense. This is, after all, the NEA. > They know the classroom. They know the teachers. They know the real > challenges of education. > > > > Which is why their elected leaders decided that, before anything > else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support > for homosexual " marriage. " > > > > That's right. The all-knowing members of the NEA decided that what > our kids need to know – more than math, geography, grammar, science, > or computer skills – is what men and men see in each other, why women > and women fall in love, and what our government and society " owes " > those who practice homosexual behavior. > > > > You can see why that kind of information is critical to a third > grader, can't you? > > Of course not. The NEA didn't think so. That's why they're taking the > matter out of your hands. Listen, when the world's largest teacher's > union elects to endorse same-sex " marriage, " they're not talking > tacit support. They're talking posters and projects, classroom > lectures and guest speakers, testimonials and textbooks – at every > grade level, and in every public school, in every school district in > America. > > > > Questions, of course, accumulate. Among them: > > What if a teacher or principal objects to same-sex unions, for > reasons of personal faith or experience? What if said educator > doesn't want his (often mandatory) NEA dues going to support those > who promote homosexual behavior? What if parents don't want their > children learning about sex (or sexual politics) at school? What if > children are ill-equipped, mentally or emotionally, to handle the > information presented by a zealous instructor? > > > > Either the NEA has considered, and dismissed, these questions – in > which case the group that wants to exert the most significant impact > on America's teachers, parents, and children turns out to have no > real concern or compassion for our teachers, parents, or children... > or else the union has not considered these crucial questions, in > which case... ditto. > > > > Either way, the academic needs of children are no longer as much a > priority for this organization as the political agenda of those who > engage in homosexual behavior. > > Actually, that's not anything new for the teachers' union. The NEA > has been working hand-in-glove for years with aggressive promoters of > homosexual behavior. Indeed, former NEA president Bob Chase is a > member of the board of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Educational > Network), and once defended NEA's force-feeding of the homosexual > agenda to children by warning that: > > > > " Some critics want the public schools to be an agent of moral > doctrine, condemning children and adults when they are not in accord > with Biblical precepts. " > > But if the NEA objects to teaching moral doctrines … how do they > justify teaching immoral doctrines? If they're against teaching > creationism, for example, for its spiritual implications, how can > they favor sex education classes that indoctrinate even very young > children with homosexual advocacy? > > > > How can they bar prayers, ministers and Christian clubs from campus, > while organizing school assemblies, demonstrations, and classroom > visits featuring homosexual and transgender " role models? " > > > > Clearly, the NEA has rejected its prima facie identity as the > representative of America's teachers, in favor of a new raison > d'etre: brainwashing schoolchildren into acceptance of, and even > indulgence in, homosexual behavior. For the union's leaders, there > will be no rest until families all over the country not only > acknowledge, but embrace and endorse the homosexual agenda. > > > > It's as simple as A-B-C. What those pressing that agenda cannot win > at the ballot box, they will win in the minds of the next > generation... one vulnerable child at a time. > > Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor who held various posts in the > departments of Justice and Interior during the Reagan Administration, > is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance > defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, > training, funding, and litigation. > > Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. . > > > Please write the NEA and tell them if you disagree! > > http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/contact.html > > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 This is exactally right. Some would equivicate a stand against discrimination as a stand for an endorsement of this issue. Please try to keep them seperate. ( ) Re: National Educators Association Priorities After reading this I went to the NEA's website and found this...... NEA:National Education Association Great Public Schools for Every Child Back to Issues in Education NEA Reconfirms Stance Against Discrimination A smear campaign launched by the American Family Association asserted that the National Education Association was set to " endorse homosexual marriage " at the 2006 Representative Assembly. Either the group is intentionally misleading the public, or didn't bother to check their information, but NEA has no plans to endorse same sex marriage and never did. At the Representative Assembly in Orlando, FL, more than 9,000 educators tackled critical issues facing public schools, teachers and students. That included multiple proposals to clarify existing resolutions and address diversity, discrimination, and civil unions. " Religious conservatives are using misinformation and smear campaigning to attack two of their favorite targets at once: marriage rights and public education, " said Reg Weaver, NEA president. " But delegates came to Florida to take care of business, and advocate for the welfare of their students. Campaigns of misinformation didn't derail that. " > > Please tell me it isn't so! This truly disturbed me: > > > > " before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win > popular support for homosexual " marriage. " " > > http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AlanSears/2006/08/25/the_curious_c a > se_of_nea_priorities > > > > Full article below: > > > > The curious case of NEA priorities > By Alan Sears > Friday, August 25, 2006 > > > It is, arguably, the most powerful union and lobbying group in the > country. And you cannot envy what its members are up against. > > Day after day, the National Education Association (NEA) sees the same > statistics we do. > > > > Plunging test scores. Floods of incoming college freshman who can't > read at even a sixth-grade level. Principals and school boards > groping for incentives that will draw better teachers into lifelong > service for high stress and infrequent appreciation. > > Instead of embracing the joys of books and learning, America's > children are gorging junk food on the couch, dabbling with R-rated > music videos and video games while their synapses run headlong down > blind brain alleys. > > > > Teacher morale remains low, as many grapple daily with parents who > are disengaged and apathetic, neurotic or demanding, angry or eager > to move their child into alternative educational settings. > > > > Add to all that the professional pressures inherent in " No Child Left > Behind, " and you can understand how the NEA leaders who gathered this > summer in Orlando for their annual convention had their work cut out > for them. The toughest question was undoubtedly the first one: where > do we start, when it comes to fixing America's schools? > > > > Well, they figured it out. And, really, faced with so many incredible > challenges, their priority makes sense. This is, after all, the NEA. > They know the classroom. They know the teachers. They know the real > challenges of education. > > > > Which is why their elected leaders decided that, before anything > else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support > for homosexual " marriage. " > > > > That's right. The all-knowing members of the NEA decided that what > our kids need to know - more than math, geography, grammar, science, > or computer skills - is what men and men see in each other, why women > and women fall in love, and what our government and society " owes " > those who practice homosexual behavior. > > > > You can see why that kind of information is critical to a third > grader, can't you? > > Of course not. The NEA didn't think so. That's why they're taking the > matter out of your hands. Listen, when the world's largest teacher's > union elects to endorse same-sex " marriage, " they're not talking > tacit support. They're talking posters and projects, classroom > lectures and guest speakers, testimonials and textbooks - at every > grade level, and in every public school, in every school district in > America. > > > > Questions, of course, accumulate. Among them: > > What if a teacher or principal objects to same-sex unions, for > reasons of personal faith or experience? What if said educator > doesn't want his (often mandatory) NEA dues going to support those > who promote homosexual behavior? What if parents don't want their > children learning about sex (or sexual politics) at school? What if > children are ill-equipped, mentally or emotionally, to handle the > information presented by a zealous instructor? > > > > Either the NEA has considered, and dismissed, these questions - in > which case the group that wants to exert the most significant impact > on America's teachers, parents, and children turns out to have no > real concern or compassion for our teachers, parents, or children... > or else the union has not considered these crucial questions, in > which case... ditto. > > > > Either way, the academic needs of children are no longer as much a > priority for this organization as the political agenda of those who > engage in homosexual behavior. > > Actually, that's not anything new for the teachers' union. The NEA > has been working hand-in-glove for years with aggressive promoters of > homosexual behavior. Indeed, former NEA president Bob Chase is a > member of the board of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Educational > Network), and once defended NEA's force-feeding of the homosexual > agenda to children by warning that: > > > > " Some critics want the public schools to be an agent of moral > doctrine, condemning children and adults when they are not in accord > with Biblical precepts. " > > But if the NEA objects to teaching moral doctrines . how do they > justify teaching immoral doctrines? If they're against teaching > creationism, for example, for its spiritual implications, how can > they favor sex education classes that indoctrinate even very young > children with homosexual advocacy? > > > > How can they bar prayers, ministers and Christian clubs from campus, > while organizing school assemblies, demonstrations, and classroom > visits featuring homosexual and transgender " role models? " > > > > Clearly, the NEA has rejected its prima facie identity as the > representative of America's teachers, in favor of a new raison > d'etre: brainwashing schoolchildren into acceptance of, and even > indulgence in, homosexual behavior. For the union's leaders, there > will be no rest until families all over the country not only > acknowledge, but embrace and endorse the homosexual agenda. > > > > It's as simple as A-B-C. What those pressing that agenda cannot win > at the ballot box, they will win in the minds of the next > generation... one vulnerable child at a time. > > Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor who held various posts in the > departments of Justice and Interior during the Reagan Administration, > is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance > defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, > training, funding, and litigation. > > Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. . > > > Please write the NEA and tell them if you disagree! > > http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/contact.html > > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Well, I went to the NEA to take a look. They are doing something about gay marriage but they never do exactly specify what they concluded. They apparently did have a conference to discuss it and discuss the problems of kids and teachers who are gay, lesbian, cross dressers etc. I can't remember the list of all the " names " they are discussing. Then they said they are making resolutions from that but don't specify what. Then they have a statement saying that the conservative " Christian right " is doing a smear campaign against them and that the gay marriage thing is not true. So I am not sure what is true since they never did say what WAS true instead. Maybe when they come out with what they discussed and decided at their conference, we will understand it better. If it is there, I couldn't find it but I honestly did not spend A LOT of time looking since who has the time to wade through all the bureaucracy? I also found, lol, a whole article dedicated to Wal-Mart. The NEA doesn't like Wal-Mart! I wonder what that really has to do with public education? Nada. It has to do with unions and that Wal-Mart is thriving without unions. Not about kids learning math. I wasn't even looking for that either. Roxanna ( ) National Educators Association Priorities Please tell me it isn't so! This truly disturbed me: " before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " " http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AlanSears/2006/08/25/the_curious_ca se_of_nea_priorities Full article below: The curious case of NEA priorities By Alan Sears Friday, August 25, 2006 It is, arguably, the most powerful union and lobbying group in the country. And you cannot envy what its members are up against. Day after day, the National Education Association (NEA) sees the same statistics we do. Plunging test scores. Floods of incoming college freshman who can't read at even a sixth-grade level. Principals and school boards groping for incentives that will draw better teachers into lifelong service for high stress and infrequent appreciation. Instead of embracing the joys of books and learning, America's children are gorging junk food on the couch, dabbling with R-rated music videos and video games while their synapses run headlong down blind brain alleys. Teacher morale remains low, as many grapple daily with parents who are disengaged and apathetic, neurotic or demanding, angry or eager to move their child into alternative educational settings. Add to all that the professional pressures inherent in " No Child Left Behind, " and you can understand how the NEA leaders who gathered this summer in Orlando for their annual convention had their work cut out for them. The toughest question was undoubtedly the first one: where do we start, when it comes to fixing America's schools? Well, they figured it out. And, really, faced with so many incredible challenges, their priority makes sense. This is, after all, the NEA. They know the classroom. They know the teachers. They know the real challenges of education. Which is why their elected leaders decided that, before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " That's right. The all-knowing members of the NEA decided that what our kids need to know - more than math, geography, grammar, science, or computer skills - is what men and men see in each other, why women and women fall in love, and what our government and society " owes " those who practice homosexual behavior. You can see why that kind of information is critical to a third grader, can't you? Of course not. The NEA didn't think so. That's why they're taking the matter out of your hands. Listen, when the world's largest teacher's union elects to endorse same-sex " marriage, " they're not talking tacit support. They're talking posters and projects, classroom lectures and guest speakers, testimonials and textbooks - at every grade level, and in every public school, in every school district in America. Questions, of course, accumulate. Among them: What if a teacher or principal objects to same-sex unions, for reasons of personal faith or experience? What if said educator doesn't want his (often mandatory) NEA dues going to support those who promote homosexual behavior? What if parents don't want their children learning about sex (or sexual politics) at school? What if children are ill-equipped, mentally or emotionally, to handle the information presented by a zealous instructor? Either the NEA has considered, and dismissed, these questions - in which case the group that wants to exert the most significant impact on America's teachers, parents, and children turns out to have no real concern or compassion for our teachers, parents, or children... or else the union has not considered these crucial questions, in which case... ditto. Either way, the academic needs of children are no longer as much a priority for this organization as the political agenda of those who engage in homosexual behavior. Actually, that's not anything new for the teachers' union. The NEA has been working hand-in-glove for years with aggressive promoters of homosexual behavior. Indeed, former NEA president Bob Chase is a member of the board of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Educational Network), and once defended NEA's force-feeding of the homosexual agenda to children by warning that: " Some critics want the public schools to be an agent of moral doctrine, condemning children and adults when they are not in accord with Biblical precepts. " But if the NEA objects to teaching moral doctrines . how do they justify teaching immoral doctrines? If they're against teaching creationism, for example, for its spiritual implications, how can they favor sex education classes that indoctrinate even very young children with homosexual advocacy? How can they bar prayers, ministers and Christian clubs from campus, while organizing school assemblies, demonstrations, and classroom visits featuring homosexual and transgender " role models? " Clearly, the NEA has rejected its prima facie identity as the representative of America's teachers, in favor of a new raison d'etre: brainwashing schoolchildren into acceptance of, and even indulgence in, homosexual behavior. For the union's leaders, there will be no rest until families all over the country not only acknowledge, but embrace and endorse the homosexual agenda. It's as simple as A-B-C. What those pressing that agenda cannot win at the ballot box, they will win in the minds of the next generation... one vulnerable child at a time. Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor who held various posts in the departments of Justice and Interior during the Reagan Administration, is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation. Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. . 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Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 The NEA has a PAC and they DO contribute to candidates. That might be what is being referred to in this article? Roxanna ( ) National Educators Association Priorities Please tell me it isn't so! This truly disturbed me: " before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " " http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AlanSears/2006/08/25/the_curious_ca se_of_nea_priorities Full article below: The curious case of NEA priorities By Alan Sears Friday, August 25, 2006 It is, arguably, the most powerful union and lobbying group in the country. And you cannot envy what its members are up against. Day after day, the National Education Association (NEA) sees the same statistics we do. Plunging test scores. Floods of incoming college freshman who can't read at even a sixth-grade level. Principals and school boards groping for incentives that will draw better teachers into lifelong service for high stress and infrequent appreciation. Instead of embracing the joys of books and learning, America's children are gorging junk food on the couch, dabbling with R-rated music videos and video games while their synapses run headlong down blind brain alleys. Teacher morale remains low, as many grapple daily with parents who are disengaged and apathetic, neurotic or demanding, angry or eager to move their child into alternative educational settings. Add to all that the professional pressures inherent in " No Child Left Behind, " and you can understand how the NEA leaders who gathered this summer in Orlando for their annual convention had their work cut out for them. The toughest question was undoubtedly the first one: where do we start, when it comes to fixing America's schools? Well, they figured it out. And, really, faced with so many incredible challenges, their priority makes sense. This is, after all, the NEA. They know the classroom. They know the teachers. They know the real challenges of education. Which is why their elected leaders decided that, before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " That's right. The all-knowing members of the NEA decided that what our kids need to know - more than math, geography, grammar, science, or computer skills - is what men and men see in each other, why women and women fall in love, and what our government and society " owes " those who practice homosexual behavior. You can see why that kind of information is critical to a third grader, can't you? Of course not. The NEA didn't think so. That's why they're taking the matter out of your hands. Listen, when the world's largest teacher's union elects to endorse same-sex " marriage, " they're not talking tacit support. They're talking posters and projects, classroom lectures and guest speakers, testimonials and textbooks - at every grade level, and in every public school, in every school district in America. Questions, of course, accumulate. Among them: What if a teacher or principal objects to same-sex unions, for reasons of personal faith or experience? What if said educator doesn't want his (often mandatory) NEA dues going to support those who promote homosexual behavior? What if parents don't want their children learning about sex (or sexual politics) at school? What if children are ill-equipped, mentally or emotionally, to handle the information presented by a zealous instructor? Either the NEA has considered, and dismissed, these questions - in which case the group that wants to exert the most significant impact on America's teachers, parents, and children turns out to have no real concern or compassion for our teachers, parents, or children... or else the union has not considered these crucial questions, in which case... ditto. Either way, the academic needs of children are no longer as much a priority for this organization as the political agenda of those who engage in homosexual behavior. Actually, that's not anything new for the teachers' union. The NEA has been working hand-in-glove for years with aggressive promoters of homosexual behavior. Indeed, former NEA president Bob Chase is a member of the board of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Educational Network), and once defended NEA's force-feeding of the homosexual agenda to children by warning that: " Some critics want the public schools to be an agent of moral doctrine, condemning children and adults when they are not in accord with Biblical precepts. " But if the NEA objects to teaching moral doctrines . how do they justify teaching immoral doctrines? If they're against teaching creationism, for example, for its spiritual implications, how can they favor sex education classes that indoctrinate even very young children with homosexual advocacy? How can they bar prayers, ministers and Christian clubs from campus, while organizing school assemblies, demonstrations, and classroom visits featuring homosexual and transgender " role models? " Clearly, the NEA has rejected its prima facie identity as the representative of America's teachers, in favor of a new raison d'etre: brainwashing schoolchildren into acceptance of, and even indulgence in, homosexual behavior. For the union's leaders, there will be no rest until families all over the country not only acknowledge, but embrace and endorse the homosexual agenda. It's as simple as A-B-C. What those pressing that agenda cannot win at the ballot box, they will win in the minds of the next generation... one vulnerable child at a time. Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor who held various posts in the departments of Justice and Interior during the Reagan Administration, is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation. Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. . 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Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 They do have a PAC but he specifically said dues. The PAC is NOT dues and not every member takes part in the PAC. This is just part of getting the story wrong that puts a bad name for the NEA. I'm going to kind of go back to the Wal Mart deal you stated in another email. The " problem " the NEA has with Wal Mart is how they use their non union sentiments to blast unions, including the teacher's union. Let's face it. Every group has to spend some time on self preservation. I will also say that the NEA is learning from some of Wal mart's example especially that of loyalty. Also what many people don't realize about wal mart is there are many of their employees don't get a living wage and still pay out the nose for their benefits. I saw a recent Time magazine article that addressed the living wage and how Wal mart was blasting that. What it said at the end is that one of the best wal marts in the country was around Phoenix where the wage was up to a living wage by law. They are planning on expanding...just opposite of what wal mart was saying would happen with rising the minimum wage. as to the discrimination..sorry combining emails here... many groups place the NEA's nondiscrimination stand as accepting gay rights to marriage. The basic stand is that we treat no one different because of race, color or creed, ability or lifestyle. Some of the conferences may have been based on how these students and teachers are treated in schools. I am just guessing there because I have not seen the report from the Orlando house of delegates. Based on what I heard at other state gatherings that is pretty much what might have been worked on. Mostly because our membership is so diverse in conservative vs liberal, democrat vs republican vs green vs independent, the NEA takes a stand on how issues pertain to education. If a person is being discriminated or set apart because of any of these, it effects their education or ability to give a quality education. I will stand on what I posted earlier.. Every child has a right to a quality basic public education. Sorry about the length of the off topic item but I really think it is important to get the story straight. I am proud to say I am a teacher that holds the same moral values as many of you. I am also proud to say that I am a member of our local and state organizations making me a member of NEA. ( ) National Educators Association Priorities Please tell me it isn't so! This truly disturbed me: " before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " " http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AlanSears/2006/08/25/the_curious_ca se_of_nea_priorities Full article below: The curious case of NEA priorities By Alan Sears Friday, August 25, 2006 It is, arguably, the most powerful union and lobbying group in the country. And you cannot envy what its members are up against. Day after day, the National Education Association (NEA) sees the same statistics we do. Plunging test scores. Floods of incoming college freshman who can't read at even a sixth-grade level. Principals and school boards groping for incentives that will draw better teachers into lifelong service for high stress and infrequent appreciation. Instead of embracing the joys of books and learning, America's children are gorging junk food on the couch, dabbling with R-rated music videos and video games while their synapses run headlong down blind brain alleys. Teacher morale remains low, as many grapple daily with parents who are disengaged and apathetic, neurotic or demanding, angry or eager to move their child into alternative educational settings. Add to all that the professional pressures inherent in " No Child Left Behind, " and you can understand how the NEA leaders who gathered this summer in Orlando for their annual convention had their work cut out for them. The toughest question was undoubtedly the first one: where do we start, when it comes to fixing America's schools? Well, they figured it out. And, really, faced with so many incredible challenges, their priority makes sense. This is, after all, the NEA. They know the classroom. They know the teachers. They know the real challenges of education. Which is why their elected leaders decided that, before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " That's right. The all-knowing members of the NEA decided that what our kids need to know - more than math, geography, grammar, science, or computer skills - is what men and men see in each other, why women and women fall in love, and what our government and society " owes " those who practice homosexual behavior. You can see why that kind of information is critical to a third grader, can't you? Of course not. The NEA didn't think so. That's why they're taking the matter out of your hands. Listen, when the world's largest teacher's union elects to endorse same-sex " marriage, " they're not talking tacit support. They're talking posters and projects, classroom lectures and guest speakers, testimonials and textbooks - at every grade level, and in every public school, in every school district in America. Questions, of course, accumulate. Among them: What if a teacher or principal objects to same-sex unions, for reasons of personal faith or experience? What if said educator doesn't want his (often mandatory) NEA dues going to support those who promote homosexual behavior? What if parents don't want their children learning about sex (or sexual politics) at school? What if children are ill-equipped, mentally or emotionally, to handle the information presented by a zealous instructor? Either the NEA has considered, and dismissed, these questions - in which case the group that wants to exert the most significant impact on America's teachers, parents, and children turns out to have no real concern or compassion for our teachers, parents, or children... or else the union has not considered these crucial questions, in which case... ditto. Either way, the academic needs of children are no longer as much a priority for this organization as the political agenda of those who engage in homosexual behavior. Actually, that's not anything new for the teachers' union. The NEA has been working hand-in-glove for years with aggressive promoters of homosexual behavior. Indeed, former NEA president Bob Chase is a member of the board of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Educational Network), and once defended NEA's force-feeding of the homosexual agenda to children by warning that: " Some critics want the public schools to be an agent of moral doctrine, condemning children and adults when they are not in accord with Biblical precepts. " But if the NEA objects to teaching moral doctrines . how do they justify teaching immoral doctrines? If they're against teaching creationism, for example, for its spiritual implications, how can they favor sex education classes that indoctrinate even very young children with homosexual advocacy? How can they bar prayers, ministers and Christian clubs from campus, while organizing school assemblies, demonstrations, and classroom visits featuring homosexual and transgender " role models? " Clearly, the NEA has rejected its prima facie identity as the representative of America's teachers, in favor of a new raison d'etre: brainwashing schoolchildren into acceptance of, and even indulgence in, homosexual behavior. For the union's leaders, there will be no rest until families all over the country not only acknowledge, but embrace and endorse the homosexual agenda. It's as simple as A-B-C. What those pressing that agenda cannot win at the ballot box, they will win in the minds of the next generation... one vulnerable child at a time. Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor who held various posts in the departments of Justice and Interior during the Reagan Administration, is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation. Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. . 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Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 And blasting unions means what to education? I don't care if a person likes walmart or not. That isn't really what we discuss here. I just thought it was interesting that not everything on the NEA agenda is about educating children. As for the gay marriage stuff - we don't know what they decided because it wasn't on the website. So it's hard to tell what was discussed and how it relates to education. I guess we will have to wait and see. I have no clue what the writer meant as far as dues. For all I know, there are dues to be in the PAC - whether they are voluntarily paid or not. I'm not in the NEA. But if your PAC takes a position, it is pretty much assumed that this is the position for the NEA. If you are in the NEA, it's assumed you agree with the basic ideas being put forth by the NEA. So I don't think it's like a separate thing at all. It's just a nice way to have a PAC and still be the NEA, that's all. Roxanna ( ) National Educators Association Priorities Please tell me it isn't so! This truly disturbed me: " before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " " http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AlanSears/2006/08/25/the_curious_ca se_of_nea_priorities Full article below: The curious case of NEA priorities By Alan Sears Friday, August 25, 2006 It is, arguably, the most powerful union and lobbying group in the country. And you cannot envy what its members are up against. Day after day, the National Education Association (NEA) sees the same statistics we do. Plunging test scores. Floods of incoming college freshman who can't read at even a sixth-grade level. Principals and school boards groping for incentives that will draw better teachers into lifelong service for high stress and infrequent appreciation. Instead of embracing the joys of books and learning, America's children are gorging junk food on the couch, dabbling with R-rated music videos and video games while their synapses run headlong down blind brain alleys. Teacher morale remains low, as many grapple daily with parents who are disengaged and apathetic, neurotic or demanding, angry or eager to move their child into alternative educational settings. Add to all that the professional pressures inherent in " No Child Left Behind, " and you can understand how the NEA leaders who gathered this summer in Orlando for their annual convention had their work cut out for them. The toughest question was undoubtedly the first one: where do we start, when it comes to fixing America's schools? Well, they figured it out. And, really, faced with so many incredible challenges, their priority makes sense. This is, after all, the NEA. They know the classroom. They know the teachers. They know the real challenges of education. Which is why their elected leaders decided that, before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support for homosexual " marriage. " That's right. The all-knowing members of the NEA decided that what our kids need to know - more than math, geography, grammar, science, or computer skills - is what men and men see in each other, why women and women fall in love, and what our government and society " owes " those who practice homosexual behavior. You can see why that kind of information is critical to a third grader, can't you? Of course not. The NEA didn't think so. That's why they're taking the matter out of your hands. Listen, when the world's largest teacher's union elects to endorse same-sex " marriage, " they're not talking tacit support. They're talking posters and projects, classroom lectures and guest speakers, testimonials and textbooks - at every grade level, and in every public school, in every school district in America. Questions, of course, accumulate. Among them: What if a teacher or principal objects to same-sex unions, for reasons of personal faith or experience? What if said educator doesn't want his (often mandatory) NEA dues going to support those who promote homosexual behavior? What if parents don't want their children learning about sex (or sexual politics) at school? What if children are ill-equipped, mentally or emotionally, to handle the information presented by a zealous instructor? Either the NEA has considered, and dismissed, these questions - in which case the group that wants to exert the most significant impact on America's teachers, parents, and children turns out to have no real concern or compassion for our teachers, parents, or children... or else the union has not considered these crucial questions, in which case... ditto. Either way, the academic needs of children are no longer as much a priority for this organization as the political agenda of those who engage in homosexual behavior. Actually, that's not anything new for the teachers' union. The NEA has been working hand-in-glove for years with aggressive promoters of homosexual behavior. Indeed, former NEA president Bob Chase is a member of the board of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Educational Network), and once defended NEA's force-feeding of the homosexual agenda to children by warning that: " Some critics want the public schools to be an agent of moral doctrine, condemning children and adults when they are not in accord with Biblical precepts. " But if the NEA objects to teaching moral doctrines . how do they justify teaching immoral doctrines? If they're against teaching creationism, for example, for its spiritual implications, how can they favor sex education classes that indoctrinate even very young children with homosexual advocacy? How can they bar prayers, ministers and Christian clubs from campus, while organizing school assemblies, demonstrations, and classroom visits featuring homosexual and transgender " role models? " Clearly, the NEA has rejected its prima facie identity as the representative of America's teachers, in favor of a new raison d'etre: brainwashing schoolchildren into acceptance of, and even indulgence in, homosexual behavior. For the union's leaders, there will be no rest until families all over the country not only acknowledge, but embrace and endorse the homosexual agenda. It's as simple as A-B-C. What those pressing that agenda cannot win at the ballot box, they will win in the minds of the next generation... one vulnerable child at a time. Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor who held various posts in the departments of Justice and Interior during the Reagan Administration, is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation. Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. . Please write the NEA and tell them if you disagree! http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/contact.html Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 My brother is a teacher. It is mandatory (before he gets his check) that dues are taken out. One due is for PSEA who negotiates contracts for ALL teachers. He wanted to be an independent and wasn't allowed to negotiate his own contract. There are also dues for NEA to support PSEA and national interests. He doesn't have a choice, this is mandatory. Maybe it's a union school district. Stef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 What you have there is called collective bargaining. The teacher's union in that school is the bargaining agent for all teachers in that district. The reason for this is so that an administrator can't hire 2 teachers at the same time with the same credits and credentials and decide to pay the other more than the other just because he or she may like their looks. In the old days men got paid more than marred women because the women were told their pay was not important to their household. If he chose not to join the union but as you say still has dues taken out, that means that association was able to have what is called fair share put into the contract and he has a prorated amount taken out for what it costs the local to negotiate that contract. I don't know what the formula for that prorating is or what they use to calculate that cost. RE: ( ) National Educators Association Priorities My brother is a teacher. It is mandatory (before he gets his check) that dues are taken out. One due is for PSEA who negotiates contracts for ALL teachers. He wanted to be an independent and wasn't allowed to negotiate his own contract. There are also dues for NEA to support PSEA and national interests. He doesn't have a choice, this is mandatory. Maybe it's a union school district. Stef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 And blasting unions means what to education? Absolutely nothing. But as I stated before it may have been something to do " housekeeping " details like self preservation. Other organizations do campaigns that help with their preservation and image that don't necessarily focus on their specific agenda. As for the PAC....the PAC is not a membership thing. I carry no card that says I'm a member of a PAC. Whether I contribute to the PAC or not I still have my PSEA card. And with agreeing the basic ideas of the NEA..I stated that position before..... A quality basic public education for all children. That is the stand of NEA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Apparently, the stand of the NEA is a little bit more than just that. Roxanna Re: ( ) National Educators Association Priorities And blasting unions means what to education? Absolutely nothing. But as I stated before it may have been something to do " housekeeping " details like self preservation. Other organizations do campaigns that help with their preservation and image that don't necessarily focus on their specific agenda. As for the PAC....the PAC is not a membership thing. I carry no card that says I'm a member of a PAC. Whether I contribute to the PAC or not I still have my PSEA card. And with agreeing the basic ideas of the NEA..I stated that position before..... A quality basic public education for all children. That is the stand of NEA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 No, unfortunately that is what other groups who have something against the NEA want you to believe. Those who are especially pro voucher want you to believe it is more than that. Re: ( ) National Educators Association Priorities > > > And blasting unions means what to education? > > Absolutely nothing. But as I stated before it may have been something to > do " housekeeping " details like self preservation. Other organizations do > campaigns that help with their preservation and image that don't > necessarily focus on their specific agenda. > > As for the PAC....the PAC is not a membership thing. I carry no card that > says I'm a member of a PAC. Whether I contribute to the PAC or not I still > have my PSEA card. And with agreeing the basic ideas of the NEA..I stated > that position before..... A quality basic public education for all > children. That is the stand of NEA. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 That's too bad he can't work at his job without being forced to comply with whatever these other people want from him. Roxanna RE: ( ) National Educators Association Priorities My brother is a teacher. It is mandatory (before he gets his check) that dues are taken out. One due is for PSEA who negotiates contracts for ALL teachers. He wanted to be an independent and wasn't allowed to negotiate his own contract. There are also dues for NEA to support PSEA and national interests. He doesn't have a choice, this is mandatory. Maybe it's a union school district. Stef ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I am not involved with another group that is pushing anything. I just went to the NEA website and got all the information I have been discussing. Maybe you should go there and read more about what you support. No more excuses! Wouldn't that be nice? Roxanna Re: ( ) National Educators Association Priorities > > > And blasting unions means what to education? > > Absolutely nothing. But as I stated before it may have been something to > do " housekeeping " details like self preservation. Other organizations do > campaigns that help with their preservation and image that don't > necessarily focus on their specific agenda. > > As for the PAC....the PAC is not a membership thing. I carry no card that > says I'm a member of a PAC. Whether I contribute to the PAC or not I still > have my PSEA card. And with agreeing the basic ideas of the NEA..I stated > that position before..... A quality basic public education for all > children. That is the stand of NEA. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 As I had explained to the email from this person is that Pennsylvania has what is called collective bargaining. One group bargains for the whole professional staff. That way it eliminates discrimination from administrators who might give someone a higher wage than someone of equal time and education just because of how they look or if a spouse is employed. The reason for the dues is what they call fair shair. Since the association bargains contracts, researches teaching strategies and has people who give inservices on these strategies all for the benefit of ALL professional employees, a formula is given to those who choose not to join to pay for what is done for them. Fair Share must be negotiated into a contract. From the sounds this school district did. They don't " want " anything from him. Collective bargaining is the law and benefits all professional employees. Fair share is something that was fought long and hard for because non members were able to benefit from the association's work at no cost before the fair share law came into being. He might think he could do better on his own in bargaining his own contract but most likely not. Therre is research out there but I do not have that at my fingertips at the moment. RE: ( ) National Educators Association Priorities > > > My brother is a teacher. It is mandatory (before he gets his check) that > dues are taken out. One due is for PSEA who negotiates contracts for ALL > teachers. He wanted to be an independent and wasn't allowed to negotiate > his own contract. There are also dues for NEA to support PSEA and > national > interests. He doesn't have a choice, this is mandatory. Maybe it's a > union > school district. > > Stef > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I did not mean that you were involved and I'm sorry if I gave you that idea. What I meant was that there are other organizations that are very anti public education that want you to believe the NEA has more on their plate than just a Quality Basic Public Education. I did look at the website just as a refresher and saw only one thing that made me want to think that they needed to re focus like the wal mart issue. As I read the whole article, I know folks like you all don't want to hear about the ability to organize and I think that really didn't need to be made a public argument. But the rest is what I call the domino effect. The Anti Public education stand of the Waltons is well known and that needed to be said. Any tax monies put into private institutions takes away that much for the public schools. The poverty level of the workers there is easy to document. Poverty and education come hand in hand otherwise those on free and reduced lunches would not be a sub group for our PSSA's. Poor families can't afford health care or child care. Sometimes the children go hungry. One needs food and good food to think and learn. Failure of one sub group puts a whole school district on the warning list for no child left behind. One nice thing about belonging to the NEA. I don't have to agree with everything they take a stand on. I believe in Public Education but I also believe in the rights of those who want to go elsewhere or to home school to do just that. I also know that for some of you I will not change your minds, I can only report on what is told to me and my interpretation on what I read. That is where it becomes hard because we all look at things from different perspectives. Excuses? No but what would be nice is if lawmakers and yes even some educators would realize as we do (we meaning you folks in here) that all children do not learn at the same rate or in the same fashion. No one way or test works for all kids. Now wouldn't that be nice? Now, I think I have been OT long enough on the NEA. I have been enjoying some of the posts that you all have had. I burn inside when I hear about a colleague (another teacher) being absolutely uncooperative with you all as parents. Sometimes they think they know everything! I too went through that with some of the people I worked with when my son went through school! I also hope that some of the advice I give from an educators perspective has been useful to you all. I also smile when you talk about your children because I can say been there done that to many of the things you write about. I will tell you it doesn't end. But I do want to wish for all of you a happy, safe and successful school year for your children AND to you! Re: ( ) National Educators Association Priorities >I am not involved with another group that is pushing anything. I just went >to the NEA website and got all the information I have been discussing. >Maybe you should go there and read more about what you support. No more >excuses! Wouldn't that be nice? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I saw your post the first time. No need to keep repeating. Roxanna RE: ( ) National Educators Association Priorities > > > My brother is a teacher. It is mandatory (before he gets his check) that > dues are taken out. One due is for PSEA who negotiates contracts for ALL > teachers. He wanted to be an independent and wasn't allowed to negotiate > his own contract. There are also dues for NEA to support PSEA and > national > interests. He doesn't have a choice, this is mandatory. Maybe it's a > union > school district. > > Stef > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I find this post to be very homophobic and I am dumbfounded as to why you would post something like this on this listserv. It's a fact of life that kids with gay parents go to public school and they probably get teased about it. You may not agree with the 'lifestyle' but the teachers can't ignore ANY child being bullied. They need to know how to handle the situation constructively. And to throw walmart and the union debate into it? What are we trying to start a fire here? Sheesh!!! I don't come here to hear someone start a political debate & then get mad because someone chimes in with a dissenting opinion. I come here to find out how to help my child and get support. > > Please tell me it isn't so! This truly disturbed me: > > > > " before anything else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win > popular support for homosexual " marriage. " " > > http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AlanSears/2006/08/25/the_curious_c a > se_of_nea_priorities > > > > Full article below: > > > > The curious case of NEA priorities > By Alan Sears > Friday, August 25, 2006 > > > It is, arguably, the most powerful union and lobbying group in the > country. And you cannot envy what its members are up against. > > Day after day, the National Education Association (NEA) sees the same > statistics we do. > > > > Plunging test scores. Floods of incoming college freshman who can't > read at even a sixth-grade level. Principals and school boards > groping for incentives that will draw better teachers into lifelong > service for high stress and infrequent appreciation. > > Instead of embracing the joys of books and learning, America's > children are gorging junk food on the couch, dabbling with R-rated > music videos and video games while their synapses run headlong down > blind brain alleys. > > > > Teacher morale remains low, as many grapple daily with parents who > are disengaged and apathetic, neurotic or demanding, angry or eager > to move their child into alternative educational settings. > > > > Add to all that the professional pressures inherent in " No Child Left > Behind, " and you can understand how the NEA leaders who gathered this > summer in Orlando for their annual convention had their work cut out > for them. The toughest question was undoubtedly the first one: where > do we start, when it comes to fixing America's schools? > > > > Well, they figured it out. And, really, faced with so many incredible > challenges, their priority makes sense. This is, after all, the NEA. > They know the classroom. They know the teachers. They know the real > challenges of education. > > > > Which is why their elected leaders decided that, before anything > else, the first thing our teachers have to do is win popular support > for homosexual " marriage. " > > > > That's right. The all-knowing members of the NEA decided that what > our kids need to know – more than math, geography, grammar, science, > or computer skills – is what men and men see in each other, why women > and women fall in love, and what our government and society " owes " > those who practice homosexual behavior. > > > > You can see why that kind of information is critical to a third > grader, can't you? > > Of course not. The NEA didn't think so. That's why they're taking the > matter out of your hands. Listen, when the world's largest teacher's > union elects to endorse same-sex " marriage, " they're not talking > tacit support. They're talking posters and projects, classroom > lectures and guest speakers, testimonials and textbooks – at every > grade level, and in every public school, in every school district in > America. > > > > Questions, of course, accumulate. Among them: > > What if a teacher or principal objects to same-sex unions, for > reasons of personal faith or experience? What if said educator > doesn't want his (often mandatory) NEA dues going to support those > who promote homosexual behavior? What if parents don't want their > children learning about sex (or sexual politics) at school? What if > children are ill-equipped, mentally or emotionally, to handle the > information presented by a zealous instructor? > > > > Either the NEA has considered, and dismissed, these questions – in > which case the group that wants to exert the most significant impact > on America's teachers, parents, and children turns out to have no > real concern or compassion for our teachers, parents, or children... > or else the union has not considered these crucial questions, in > which case... ditto. > > > > Either way, the academic needs of children are no longer as much a > priority for this organization as the political agenda of those who > engage in homosexual behavior. > > Actually, that's not anything new for the teachers' union. The NEA > has been working hand-in-glove for years with aggressive promoters of > homosexual behavior. Indeed, former NEA president Bob Chase is a > member of the board of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Educational > Network), and once defended NEA's force-feeding of the homosexual > agenda to children by warning that: > > > > " Some critics want the public schools to be an agent of moral > doctrine, condemning children and adults when they are not in accord > with Biblical precepts. " > > But if the NEA objects to teaching moral doctrines … how do they > justify teaching immoral doctrines? If they're against teaching > creationism, for example, for its spiritual implications, how can > they favor sex education classes that indoctrinate even very young > children with homosexual advocacy? > > > > How can they bar prayers, ministers and Christian clubs from campus, > while organizing school assemblies, demonstrations, and classroom > visits featuring homosexual and transgender " role models? " > > > > Clearly, the NEA has rejected its prima facie identity as the > representative of America's teachers, in favor of a new raison > d'etre: brainwashing schoolchildren into acceptance of, and even > indulgence in, homosexual behavior. For the union's leaders, there > will be no rest until families all over the country not only > acknowledge, but embrace and endorse the homosexual agenda. > > > > It's as simple as A-B-C. What those pressing that agenda cannot win > at the ballot box, they will win in the minds of the next > generation... one vulnerable child at a time. > > Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor who held various posts in the > departments of Justice and Interior during the Reagan Administration, > is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance > defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, > training, funding, and litigation. > > Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. . > > > Please write the NEA and tell them if you disagree! > > http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/contact.html > > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 WOW did you guys watch that 20/20 show last Friday about the schools in the USA? ( very compareable to the ones in Canada too if you ask me..) without competition.. I believe our school system will continue to fail our children -- Re: ( ) National Educators Association Priorities I am not involved with another group that is pushing anything. I just went to the NEA website and got all the information I have been discussing. Maybe you should go there and read more about what you support. No more excuses! Wouldn't that be nice? Roxanna Re: ( ) National Educators Association Priorities > > > And blasting unions means what to education? > > Absolutely nothing. But as I stated before it may have been something to > do " housekeeping " details like self preservation. Other organizations do > campaigns that help with their preservation and image that don't > necessarily focus on their specific agenda. > > As for the PAC....the PAC is not a membership thing. I carry no card that > says I'm a member of a PAC. Whether I contribute to the PAC or not I still > have my PSEA card. And with agreeing the basic ideas of the NEA..I stated > that position before..... A quality basic public education for all > children. That is the stand of NEA. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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