Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 You can do colloidal silver as natural antibiotic: http://chetday.com/colloidalsilvergenerator.htm then probiotics for stomach candida: http://www.cfsn.com/yavenge.html then Rife and Zappers. The best/cheapest way is to buy Frequency generator to use on its own as Zapper/pad device, then upgrade to magnetic pulser, rife tube: http://atelierrobin.tripod.com/#Mailing%20list http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/em7c.htm Also learn some Yoga. Good excersise is good for recovery. > Hi All, > I'm not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the begining. > I have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well " feels > like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been going > down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then and > ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a ton of > antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I never > recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in > 1985 when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and it > came back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for Chronic > Candida and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked my > Doc about the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely. But > the more I read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So, How do > I start and where to begin trying to over come these beasties? Any > help would be great. > KIm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Do as much reading and research on the subject, treatment, diet ect... before you start so you can make educated decisions. Diet is probably the easiest to start with but for a lot of people the hardest to maintain. > Hi All, > I'm not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the begining. > I have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well " feels > like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been going > down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then and > ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a ton of > antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I never > recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in > 1985 when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and it > came back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for Chronic > Candida and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked my > Doc about the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely. But > the more I read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So, How do > I start and where to begin trying to over come these beasties? Any > help would be great. > KIm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 diet is good, but hardly cures candida, but check nutrition like green grass drink and greens in general, balance, minerals T.J. , calcium/magnesium, avoid tap water, if you get heartburns and stomach gets acidic (happens to people under stress a lot), kill it with baking soda and lots of calcium, but you need probiotics to restore natural flora. ********************************************************** > > Hi All, > > I'm not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the > begining. > > I have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well " > feels > > like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been > going > > down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then and > > ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a ton > of > > antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I > never > > recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in > > 1985 when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and > it > > came back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for Chronic > > Candida and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked > my > > Doc about the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely. > But > > the more I read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So, How > do > > I start and where to begin trying to over come these beasties? Any > > help would be great. > > KIm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 Hi Kim, Candida is the toughest parasite to get. We use 3Lac http://www.ghtdirect.com/dolphindeb and a strict diet free of sugars and yeast and their products. My wife is an NMT Practitioner http://www.neuromodulationtechnique.com/ this has been very helpful in treating Candida. We have experienced large clearings, but this is still not enough even though she has not found any other microorganism she cannot eliminate through NMT including SARS! In order to get answers from her client’s autonomic nervous system she can use MRT (muscle response testing). We have refined this testing system for years to the point where it is now very reliable. Blessings, Murray Kim H <kdharts@...> wrote: Hi All, I'm not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the begining. I have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well " feels like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been going down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then and ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a ton of antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I never recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in 1985 when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and it came back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for Chronic Candida and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked my Doc about the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely. But the more I read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So, How do I start and where to begin trying to over come these beasties? Any help would be great. KIm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 Fibro , EBV , mono , and candida all are symptoms of thyroid disease . The lowered defenses in hypothyroidism probably make one an easy victim for candida , and also the repeated antibiotic treatments one gets/needs when hypothyroid . In fact the symptom list of candida is in many ways identical to the symptom list of thyroid . ne in France http://www.geocities.com/thyroide > Hi All, > I'm not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the begining. > I have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well " feels > like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been going > down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then and > ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a ton of > antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I never > recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in > 1985 when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and it > came back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for Chronic > Candida and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked my > Doc about the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely. But > the more I read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So, How do > I start and where to begin trying to over come these beasties? Any > help would be great. > KIm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 And what causes Hypothyroidism: Mercury toxicity. Ou bodies were perfect @ birth. Medicine and dentistry ruined them. Stay positive (despite my negative comment). -P Please visit the Animal Resuce Site(http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/home) every day to give a bowl of food -- at no cost to you -- to an animal so that they may enjoy their time on this planet. Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood. -- Marie Curie >From: " susanne_75 " >Reply-candidiasis >To: >candidiasis >Subject: Re: new to all of this > >Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:41:19 -0000 > >Fibro , EBV , mono , and candida >all are symptoms of thyroid >disease . The lowered defenses in >hypothyroidism probably make one an >easy victim for candida , and also the >repeated antibiotic treatments >one gets/needs when hypothyroid . In fact >the symptom list of candida >is in many ways identical to the symptom list >of thyroid . > >ne in France > >http://www.geocities.com/thyroide > > > > > Hi All, > > I'm >not sure where to start, but I feel this should be the >begining. > > I >have been sick for ever so long that I'm not sure what " well " >feels > > >like. I have been Dx with Fibro a few years back and have been >going > > >down hill since 2000. I had a gall bladder operation back then and > > >ended up with a yeast infection in my bladder. I was put on a ton >of > > >antibiotics and some duflican (sp) to help fight the yeast. I >never > > >recovered from that time. I have chronic EBV. I had mono back in > > 1985 >when my kids were young, again in 2000 after the surgery and >it > > came >back again just this last Oct. I read the symtoms for Chronic > > Candida >and I seem to score up in the severe range. When I asked >my > > Doc about >the yeast being a problem, he told me it was unlikely. >But > > the more I >read, the more I am convinced I have a problem. So, How >do > > I start and >where to begin trying to over come these beasties? Any > > help would be >great. > > KIm > _________________________________________________________________ Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Therese- My daughter was diagnosed with pauci at 17 mos -- one knee affected. She started on Naprosyn. It didn't do much. We got her into remission with a joint injection. She was symptom-free for a year. It came back in the original knee, an ankle, wrist and elbow. She was diagnosed with iritis at the same time. We got all of that under control. Methotrexate did the trick that time. We just took her off all meds in December. She's been symptom-free for nearly two years. She is currently having a bout of iritis again despite the remission of the arthritis. So I'd agree pauci is the "best" you can have. We've been lucky to have two remissions. But you can't be sure that this is as bad as it'll ever be. It's very unpredictable. Right now I'm just thankful that we've managed to get it under control each time so far. I don't delude myself that it won't come back or expect that it won't get worse. I try to keep myself mentally prepared. But of course I keep hoping this is it -- no more arthritis. I know of others with pauci who see 's doctor who have been symptom-free for five or six years and have it come back. Hope this helps. Diane (, 4, pauci) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Hi, Therese. My son also is pauci. It is a good thing that your daughter was diagnosed quickly. Your daughter is young, so the possibility of remission is there. However, if she cannot straighten her leg and limps, her disease is obviously not well controlled yet. She may at some point need a DMARD to prevent joint damage. Each child is different. Being ANA positive (my son is also) and being a girl she is statistically at a higher risk for eye complications. Uveitis, iritis being those. Our eye dr said you should be checked at least twice a year with a slit lamp test for seven years after diagnosis. Yes, with pauci it is true you do not have the fever or rash complications. Yet, pauci is life changing in its own way. You still can have the joint pain and problems. My son also had spondylitis added to his diagnosis as his tendons and back have become involved. So your daughter will need to be seen by a rheumy in order to control the disease. Different meds may be added or taken away as the disease goes along. I do know of a girl who had pauci as a young baby and now at 13 is symptom free. She takes no meds. Her mom is thankful and watches for any triggers, but so far she is doing well. But as some adults here with JRA have said, they believe you never quite outgrow it and need to be mindful that something could trigger symptoms. I would reccommend you read as much as you can, and stay in touch here. It is a treasure trove of information. Keep a journal of your daughters symptoms so when you see the dr you know how she felt. Learning about this disease has been such a help to me. Good luck and keep us informed. Hope some of this info helped, Michele (16,pauci & spondy) -----Original Message-----From: and Therese Z. [mailto:maryfield@...] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:13 PM Subject: New to all of this Hi- I am new to all of this. Our 15 month old has been diagnosed with pauciarticular JRA. The only symptom she has is that one of her knees will not straighten all of the way and the other is slightly swollen. She does not walk yet but crawls and cruises (with a slight limp) around the furniture. She was just diagnosed and has been on naproxen for 1 1/2 weeks which seems to help with the pain, at least. We have been told that this is the best type of JRA to have, if you have to have it and to me it does seem like nothing compared to the other posts I have read here. She is ANA positive so we have been told she is at higher risk for eye disease. What I am wondering is if it would be realistic to think that this is as bad as it will get or are we likely to have more problems? Any chance she could go into remission and stay there? Will she have a hard time now learning to walk? The doctors keep saying each case is different. Is there anyone out there that has had a pretty easy time with a similar dignosis or has had a similar beginning with all sorts or twists, turns and complications? It would help me to mentally prepare if I could hear any stories from "real people" that may prepare me either way for what is (or isn't) to come... Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Hi Therese, My daughter Meaghan was diagnosed with pauci JRA at 19 months old. I know exactly how you feel. Right now she is in remission, but has begun to have a flare. However nothing is as bad as it was in the beginning. She started on naproxen too with no help. She was then put on 2 other medications and put in physical therapy. After physical therapy and getting an injection in her knee the swelling went down and she was able to move her knee better. She goes to the eye doctor every 6 months. (so far so good). She just saw her rheumy before Christmas and we were told she was in remission and we do not have to go back until December 2004. She was put on Bextra, Sulfasalazine, and Solaraze Gel. She is now off all medication but the Solarze Gel. Please feel free to write anytime you may have questions. New to all of this Hi- I am new to all of this. Our 15 month old has been diagnosed with pauciarticular JRA. The only symptom she has is that one of her knees will not straighten all of the way and the other is slightly swollen. She does not walk yet but crawls and cruises (with a slight limp) around the furniture. She was just diagnosed and has been on naproxen for 1 1/2 weeks which seems to help with the pain, at least. We have been told that this is the best type of JRA to have, if you have to have it and to me it does seem like nothing compared to the other posts I have read here. She is ANA positive so we have been told she is at higher risk for eye disease. What I am wondering is if it would be realistic to think that this is as bad as it will get or are we likely to have more problems? Any chance she could go into remission and stay there? Will she have a hard time now learning to walk? The doctors keep saying each case is different. Is there anyone out there that has had a pretty easy time with a similar dignosis or has had a similar beginning with all sorts or twists, turns and complications? It would help me to mentally prepare if I could hear any stories from "real people" that may prepare me either way for what is (or isn't) to come... Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Dear Therese, Hi, my daughter (now six) has pauci-articular JRA, and it has been very, very mild (especially compared to what so many other parents have to deal with). The way you describe your 15-month-old sound SO much like at 15 months. is also ANA+, and unfortunately, she developed the uveitis about a year and a half after being diagnosed with JRA. Her uveitis is also relatively mild-- able to be controlled rather well. I've come to the point where I can " roll with the punches " pretty much, but to be honest, there are things that will still throw you! After 's diagnosis, she responded so well to medication (she was taking ibuprofen)--and I convinced myself we had seen the worst, and that the rest of the journey of this disease would not be all that bad. For me, I soon came to realize that there are many, many ups and downs along the way. has been on a variety of medications, and we recently discovered that her arthritis has spread (four years after her diagnosis). We still sometimes deal with reactions to medications (just last week, even!)--usually stomach-related. I am in contact with many parents whose children have pauci-articular JRA, and many, many of them have done so very well! The prognosis is good. However, I'm a realist, and reality is that your daughter may do very well and respond well to medication, and go into remission within a relatively short time. It's also true, though, that this disease can be very individualistic, and even pauci-articular JRA can be a challenge to get under control and into remission. I don't know if I'm saying all of this very well. I really need to go start supper, so part of my mind is already in the kitchen and looking at the clock, even as I sit here typing! I created a web page, called 's JRA Page--it gives some information, and there's also some pages that give the " Cliff Notes " version of 's JRA journey. You can find it at http://www.geocities.com/tlzeigler/sJRA.html . I don't know if you will find that information helpful or not. I know when was first diagnosed, I wanted to find others who had traveled a similar path, to get a small picture of what the future might hold. Please feel free to e-mail me. Tammy > > Hi- > > I am new to all of this. Our 15 month old has been diagnosed with pauciarticular JRA. The only symptom she has is that one of her knees will not straighten all of the way and the other is slightly swollen. She does not walk yet but crawls and cruises (with a slight limp) around the furniture. She was just diagnosed and has been on naproxen for 1 1/2 weeks which seems to help with the pain, at least. We have been told that this is the best type of JRA to have, if you have to have it and to me it does seem like nothing compared to the other posts I have read here. She is ANA positive so we have been told she is at higher risk for eye disease. What I am wondering is if it would be realistic to think that this is as bad as it will get or are we likely to have more problems? Any chance she could go into remission and stay there? Will she have a hard time now learning to walk? The doctors keep saying each case is different. Is there anyone out there that has had a pretty easy time with a similar dignosis or has had a similar beginning with all sorts or twists, turns and complications? It would help me to mentally prepare if I could hear any stories from " real people " that may prepare me either way for what is (or isn't) to come... > > Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Hello to Therese. I'm writing just to echo what Michele Tepper said, and to hope that the arthritis will be kind to your daughter. Our daughter is also pauci. She was diagnosed at 2 and a half, but had had symptoms before. She also can't straighten her leg. Her first attack lasted almost 6 months. During this time, the medics steadily increased her medication, up to 10mg piroxicam (feldene) daily, the maximum for her weight, as she is small for her age. The condition then began to ease somewhat. her knee stopped feeling hot and looking reddish, and she seemed not at all bothered about her limp, but her knee was still 30 degrees out of true, and slightly bent sideways. The medics then decided to move up a stage, to steroid/splint treatment. But while we were waiting for them to fix the appointment, the improvement speeded up, and they decided to wait and see. She has since had almost 5 months of partial remission. Her medication is experimentally being reduced to 5mg, and the doctors hope that physiotherapy will straighten her knee, which at present is bent (now 10 degrees out) mainly through wasted muscles. We don't know what lies ahead, but somehow arthritis has become an accepted part of our lives. Ottilie - who at first wouldn't co-operate with the doctors, is now a model patient, even submitting without complaint to the eye tests. She talks openly about her knee problem (but terrifies me every time she mentions a sore wrist or back). We've discovered that many people leading active and purposeful lives are lifelong arthritis sufferers - in some cases these are people we know, but didn't realise had this background. I don't dare to say 'it gets easier', because Ottilie is 3 and we are only at the start of our journey and don't know what lies ahead for her. Also, we may now be in a honeymoon period - every time I say 'better' our doctor corrects this to 'arthritis inactive at present' or 'in remission'. But I think - or at least I hope - that, after a few knocks, you do get to take the condition on board. Meanwhile, we take her swimming as often as we can, intend (but don't always succeed) in getting her through her daily exercise regime from the physio, and hope, when she is older, to get her riding lessons (she is wild about horses). Ottilie's younger sister is physically very well developed, so we have been trying to nurture a 'big sister' role which doesn't depend on physical superiority. We encourage her to enjoy books, songs and mentally-stretching pursuits, and do believe that we have a little girl with real strength of character. But, of course, we don't yet know how far this strength will be tested. I hope things go well for your family. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Hi Therese... My son has a very similar story.... ’s symptoms began with a swollen right thumb at eight months of age. Initially, we were told it was nothing to worry about and that he must “suck†his thumb. But after a couple weeks without any signs of improvement, we were persistent about him having further testing, upon which the pediatrician ordered blood work and x-rays. We were then referred to an orthopedic specialist, who performed a MRI and diagnosed with tenosynovitis and therefore recommended surgery. Uncomfortable with the findings, we went for a second opinion with another orthopedic specialist, and found he was not in agreement with the diagnosis, but at the same time could not explain what was wrong with our son. He then referred us to Shriner’s Hospital and Boston Children’s Hospital in Massachusetts. On May 23, 2001, just a few days after ’s first birthday, we left for Massachusetts. had two appointments with specialists that day, one at Shriner’s Hospital in Springfield and the other at Boston Children’s Hospital in Boston. We only made it to the first one. It was at Shriner’s, that the orthopedic doctor examined our son and he too could not explain what was wrong with his thumb. However, before we left, the pediatric rheumatologist was asked to take a brief look at . In a matter of seconds, Dr. Deborah Rothman examined ’s entire body, not just his thumb, and discovered swelling in two other joints, his right knee and left ankle. This was the first time that anyone looked at our son’s entire body, and it was then that we knew he was in a more dire situation. She told us would need a complete evaluation to confirm what she believed to be Pauciarticular Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis (JRA). Later tests confirmed that our son , just twelve months old, had Pauciarticular Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis and was ANA positive. was immediately prescribed anti-inflammatory medication which he receives twice daily. In August of 2001, was given steroid joint injections in his right knee and left ankle, which dramatically reduced his joint swelling and increased his range of motion. Currently, ’s right knee has begun to swell again, which often seems to cause morning stiffness, his right thumb has shown little change, but his left ankle has shown improvement. has follow-up appointments in Springfield, Massachusetts with the rheumatologist and ophthalmologist every three months to monitor his joints and to ensure that his eyes are not being affected by the JRA. It took us a long time to come to terms with the diagnosis. We did not know that children, or even babies could get arthritis, but we now know through our own child’s experience, as many as 300,000 children suffer with this disease today. It is not an “old person’s†disease as we once thought......Kids get arthritis too. Will is now 3 1/2 yrs old and in another flair...we are going to back in for jt imjections next week......I would love to try to help you/ talk etc......you can email me directly if you want.....where do you live? we are in Upstate NY...... hope this helps.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Hi , Just wanted to wish you well, as you prepare for 's joint injections next week. Will they be doing just his knee or other joints, as well? I hope he'll have a very good response and will be feeling lots better afterwards. Take Care, Georgina laocme12@... wrote: > Hi Therese... > > My son has a very similar story.... > > ’s symptoms began with a swollen right thumb at eight months of age. > Initially, we were told it was nothing to worry about and that he must “suck†> his thumb. But after a couple weeks without any signs of improvement, we were > persistent about him having further testing, upon which the pediatrician > ordered blood work and x-rays. We were then referred to an orthopedic specialist, > who performed a MRI and diagnosed with tenosynovitis and therefore > recommended surgery. Uncomfortable with the findings, we went for a second > opinion with another orthopedic specialist, and found he was not in agreement with > the diagnosis, but at the same time could not explain what was wrong with our > son. He then referred us to Shriner’s Hospital and Boston Children’s > Hospital in Massachusetts. > > On May 23, 2001, just a few days after ’s first birthday, we left > for Massachusetts. had two appointments with specialists that day, > one at Shriner’s Hospital in Springfield and the other at Boston Children’s > Hospital in Boston. We only made it to the first one. It was at Shriner’s, that > the orthopedic doctor examined our son and he too could not explain what was > wrong with his thumb. However, before we left, the pediatric rheumatologist > was asked to take a brief look at . In a matter of seconds, Dr. Deborah > Rothman examined ’s entire body, not just his thumb, and discovered > swelling in two other joints, his right knee and left ankle. This was the first > time that anyone looked at our son’s entire body, and it was then that we knew > he was in a more dire situation. She told us would need a complete > evaluation to confirm what she believed to be Pauciarticular Juvenile > Rheumatoid Arthritis (JRA). Later tests confirmed that our son , just twelve > months old, had Pauciarticular Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis and was ANA > positive. > > was immediately prescribed anti-inflammatory medication which he > receives twice daily. In August of 2001, was given steroid joint > injections in his right knee and left ankle, which dramatically reduced his joint > swelling and increased his range of motion. Currently, ’s right knee > has begun to swell again, which often seems to cause morning stiffness, his > right thumb has shown little change, but his left ankle has shown improvement. > has follow-up appointments in Springfield, Massachusetts with the > rheumatologist and ophthalmologist every three months to monitor his joints and to > ensure that his eyes are not being affected by the JRA. > > It took us a long time to come to terms with the diagnosis. We did not > know that children, or even babies could get arthritis, but we now know through > our own child’s experience, as many as 300,000 children suffer with this > disease today. It is not an “old person’s†disease as we once thought......Kids > get arthritis too. > > Will is now 3 1/2 yrs old and in another flair...we are going to back in for > jt imjections next week......I would love to try to help you/ talk > etc......you can email me directly if you want.....where do you live? we are in Upstate > NY...... > > hope this helps.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Thanks Georgina.... they are doing his knee and ankle.....we were hoping to use aristospan like we did before, but it is still off the market....the company told me they expect to have it available mid 2004. We can't wait any longer, so I hope this works. thanks again.... (Mom to Will, Pauci, 3 1/2yrs. old) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Hi. I'm not an expert. But I might say that: - it's probably not good to take prescription medications for this - it requires lots of lifestyle changes - it is a doggedly persistent problem, without an easy fix - also, there is a lot of talk on this list about " liver cleanses " . It might be a good thing, or maybe not. But don't just go with the flow on that one, read and decide. In a message dated 9/18/04 1:10:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, archerkd@... writes: > Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to figure it out. I have > changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a prescripiton for > Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me. I therefore got a > yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My question is, will this > work the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 In the files section, check out the success stories. very very valuable info there from people who have been there and done it, and came out on the other side. check it out. johng > Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to figure it out. I have > changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a prescripiton for > Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me. I therefore got a > yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My question is, will this > work the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Hi: I don't know what reason your doctor had for not giving you Diflucan, but he was doing you a big favour. Diflucan is a temporary fix - it will work for awhile but eventually your Candida will come back with a vengeance. (Diflucan is also hard on the liver - an organ that is usually already compromised if you have Candida) The yeast cleanse that you got at the health food store might help to some degree - they usually contain anti-fungals of some type - but you'd probably end up spending a lot of money over a long period of time and end up no better off. Bottom line is you have to clean up your diet (which you said you are doing, good for you) - no sugar, no flour, etc. This will keep the Candida in check as long as you watch what you eat. But if you want to permanently rid yourself of Candida, then think about doing some cleanses. I know this concept is difficult to grasp at first but do some reading in the archives of this site and also check out www.curezone.com. You'll find many success stories. A growing number of people are also of the opinion that Candida has proliferated for a reason - as a " helper " , if you will, to rid your body of an overload of toxins. (A couple of the reasons for that toxicity are mercury fillings in your mouth and/or an overburdened liver). The bad news is that there aren't any quick fixes for Candida - but the good news is that with diligence and the right approach, you can rid yourself of it. To your good health - p New to all of this > > Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to figure it out. I have > changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a prescripiton for > Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me. I therefore got a > yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My question is, will this > work the same? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 One of the best things for you to do to help you forst off... if your problem is vaginal yeast infections or external type yeast rashes... purchase a bottle of Boric Acid. It usually only costs about $5 and has saved me many times when I have gotten a yeast flare up. Also if you have vaginal problems with burning, itching, paper cut like tears, painful intercourse... boric acid will help relieve all of that (atleast it did for me) Also buy some empty gel capsules. You can get them from the local health store or vitimin store (size 0 or 00) fill them with boric acid and you can use them as a convienient vaginal supporitory. Insert one 2x a day (usually I do before bed and when I get up) for 1-2 weeks depending on how bad your infection is. This is just a crutch though, as the others said, you have to really change your lifestyle to fix this kind of problem... just using the boric acid, the problem will eventually come back. If your yeast is external (like eczema or a rash) You can just mix a little water with the boric acid and apply it topically ( I have never tried it but I don't see why it wouldn't work... it works so well vaginally!) Hope this helps *8-) --- penny martin <penelopea@...> wrote: > Hi: > > I don't know what reason your doctor had for not > giving you Diflucan, but he > was doing you a big favour. Diflucan is a temporary > fix - it will work for > awhile but eventually your Candida will come back > with a vengeance. > (Diflucan is also hard on the liver - an organ that > is usually already > compromised if you have Candida) > > The yeast cleanse that you got at the health food > store might help to some > degree - they usually contain anti-fungals of some > type - but you'd probably > end up spending a lot of money over a long period of > time and end up no > better off. > > Bottom line is you have to clean up your diet (which > you said you are doing, > good for you) - no sugar, no flour, etc. This will > keep the Candida in > check as long as you watch what you eat. But if you > want to permanently rid > yourself of Candida, then think about doing some > cleanses. I know this > concept is difficult to grasp at first but do some > reading in the archives > of this site and also check out www.curezone.com. > You'll find many success > stories. > > A growing number of people are also of the opinion > that Candida has > proliferated for a reason - as a " helper " , if you > will, to rid your body of > an overload of toxins. (A couple of the reasons for > that toxicity are > mercury fillings in your mouth and/or an > overburdened liver). > > The bad news is that there aren't any quick fixes > for Candida - but the good > news is that with diligence and the right approach, > you can rid yourself of > it. > > To your good health - p > > > New to all of this > > > > > > Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to > figure it out. I have > > changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a > prescripiton for > > Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me. > I therefore got a > > yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My > question is, will this > > work the same? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 I often use boric acid mixed with water on my eczema and it does work, very well. No burning either, it's surprisingly mild. I don't know what I would do without it. " M. " <puhutes@...> wrote:One of the best things for you to do to help you forst off... if your problem is vaginal yeast infections or external type yeast rashes... purchase a bottle of Boric Acid. It usually only costs about $5 and has saved me many times when I have gotten a yeast flare up. Also if you have vaginal problems with burning, itching, paper cut like tears, painful intercourse... boric acid will help relieve all of that (atleast it did for me) Also buy some empty gel capsules. You can get them from the local health store or vitimin store (size 0 or 00) fill them with boric acid and you can use them as a convienient vaginal supporitory. Insert one 2x a day (usually I do before bed and when I get up) for 1-2 weeks depending on how bad your infection is. This is just a crutch though, as the others said, you have to really change your lifestyle to fix this kind of problem... just using the boric acid, the problem will eventually come back. If your yeast is external (like eczema or a rash) You can just mix a little water with the boric acid and apply it topically ( I have never tried it but I don't see why it wouldn't work... it works so well vaginally!) Hope this helps *8-) --- penny martin <penelopea@...> wrote: > Hi: > > I don't know what reason your doctor had for not > giving you Diflucan, but he > was doing you a big favour. Diflucan is a temporary > fix - it will work for > awhile but eventually your Candida will come back > with a vengeance. > (Diflucan is also hard on the liver - an organ that > is usually already > compromised if you have Candida) > > The yeast cleanse that you got at the health food > store might help to some > degree - they usually contain anti-fungals of some > type - but you'd probably > end up spending a lot of money over a long period of > time and end up no > better off. > > Bottom line is you have to clean up your diet (which > you said you are doing, > good for you) - no sugar, no flour, etc. This will > keep the Candida in > check as long as you watch what you eat. But if you > want to permanently rid > yourself of Candida, then think about doing some > cleanses. I know this > concept is difficult to grasp at first but do some > reading in the archives > of this site and also check out www.curezone.com. > You'll find many success > stories. > > A growing number of people are also of the opinion > that Candida has > proliferated for a reason - as a " helper " , if you > will, to rid your body of > an overload of toxins. (A couple of the reasons for > that toxicity are > mercury fillings in your mouth and/or an > overburdened liver). > > The bad news is that there aren't any quick fixes > for Candida - but the good > news is that with diligence and the right approach, > you can rid yourself of > it. > > To your good health - p > > > New to all of this > > > > > > Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to > figure it out. I have > > changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a > prescripiton for > > Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me. > I therefore got a > > yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My > question is, will this > > work the same? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Thanks for the feedback - I think I've figured out that I am in for the long haul!!! > > > Hi: > > > > I don't know what reason your doctor had for not > > giving you Diflucan, but he > > was doing you a big favour. Diflucan is a temporary > > fix - it will work for > > awhile but eventually your Candida will come back > > with a vengeance. > > (Diflucan is also hard on the liver - an organ that > > is usually already > > compromised if you have Candida) > > > > The yeast cleanse that you got at the health food > > store might help to some > > degree - they usually contain anti-fungals of some > > type - but you'd probably > > end up spending a lot of money over a long period of > > time and end up no > > better off. > > > > Bottom line is you have to clean up your diet (which > > you said you are doing, > > good for you) - no sugar, no flour, etc. This will > > keep the Candida in > > check as long as you watch what you eat. But if you > > want to permanently rid > > yourself of Candida, then think about doing some > > cleanses. I know this > > concept is difficult to grasp at first but do some > > reading in the archives > > of this site and also check out www.curezone.com. > > You'll find many success > > stories. > > > > A growing number of people are also of the opinion > > that Candida has > > proliferated for a reason - as a " helper " , if you > > will, to rid your body of > > an overload of toxins. (A couple of the reasons for > > that toxicity are > > mercury fillings in your mouth and/or an > > overburdened liver). > > > > The bad news is that there aren't any quick fixes > > for Candida - but the good > > news is that with diligence and the right approach, > > you can rid yourself of > > it. > > > > To your good health - p > > > > > > New to all of this > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, I am new to all of this and trying to > > figure it out. I have > > > changed my diet, but went to the doctor to get a > > prescripiton for > > > Diflucan or such and he refused to give it to me. > > I therefore got a > > > yeast cleanse from the healthfood store. My > > question is, will this > > > work the same? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Hi, My name is Gail and my husband and I just recently lead a group on a missions trip to Mexico. One of our team members is a spec. ed. teacher and works with children with autism and asperger's syndrome. She asked me if my son (age 10) was autistic. I told her no and then through more conversation, I was thinking that maybe he was. When we got home, I looked up some sites on the Internet and after looking at the characteristics (he was at the minimum or more on every one of them), my husband and I are convinced that he has Asperger's Syndrome. It is funny because we have always said that he was a kid that danced to the beat of a different drum. We have always known he was different and with four kids, we have a few to compare to. He has always been more of a loner and he does not like making eye contact. Now that we have looked this information up, all his little quirky things make sense, things like flapping his hands, walking in circles, making motions like cracking his fingers over and over again, not looking you in the eyes, etc. While we were at the movie store yesterday, he was pacing forward one step and backward one step over and over while choosing his game. We always thought he had to go to the bathroom all the time. Recently, before having any of this information, I was thinking that all of these things he does were getting more pronounced and my husband read on a wed site that things can get worse from ages 10 - 14 as they entire the teenage years. Wow, my head is spinning but it is good because all of these things he does are now making sense. We did call our pediatrician and we have an appointment to talk to him about it on October 17. Anyway, I am totally new to all of this and found this site. Thank you for letting me share. I look forward to reading the posts here to gain more understanding. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Hello, I have a child with AS age 8. I have just one question to ask, If O.k. with you? No one (teachers) at your childs school brought up concerns to you about your son? scrapbookingmomof4 <scrapbookingmomof4@...> wrote: Hi, My name is Gail and my husband and I just recently lead a group on a missions trip to Mexico. One of our team members is a spec. ed. teacher and works with children with autism and asperger's syndrome. She asked me if my son (age 10) was autistic. I told her no and then through more conversation, I was thinking that maybe he was. When we got home, I looked up some sites on the Internet and after looking at the characteristics (he was at the minimum or more on every one of them), my husband and I are convinced that he has Asperger's Syndrome. It is funny because we have always said that he was a kid that danced to the beat of a different drum. We have always known he was different and with four kids, we have a few to compare to. He has always been more of a loner and he does not like making eye contact. Now that we have looked this information up, all his little quirky things make sense, things like flapping his hands, walking in circles, making motions like cracking his fingers over and over again, not looking you in the eyes, etc. While we were at the movie store yesterday, he was pacing forward one step and backward one step over and over while choosing his game. We always thought he had to go to the bathroom all the time. Recently, before having any of this information, I was thinking that all of these things he does were getting more pronounced and my husband read on a wed site that things can get worse from ages 10 - 14 as they entire the teenage years. Wow, my head is spinning but it is good because all of these things he does are now making sense. We did call our pediatrician and we have an appointment to talk to him about it on October 17. Anyway, I am totally new to all of this and found this site. Thank you for letting me share. I look forward to reading the posts here to gain more understanding. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Hi, When I talked to the teachers about it after we looked into it, they said that things were starting to make sense. We were homeschooling until January of last year and then my son went into the class room for the rest of the year. We had always thought he was ADD but never tested it. I talked to his teacher from last year and told her what we were doing and if she could remember back to anything that would be helpful for the doctor. After speaking to her, she said that a lot of things about him would make sense. His teacher from this year, who has only had him for a month said that she had seen some things she was watching. When he gets nervous, he would start to flap his hands and such. He will also zone out more then normal but he is very bright. Some of his achievement tests last year put his reading at high school level or beyond. There have been others who have been irritated with some of his actions but we always said, it was just who he was. He also gets very involved in subjects at school, especially science, where he will obsesively talk about what he is learning and give way more information than a kid his age would normally do. I don't know if that answers some of that. Gail Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote: Hello, I have a child with AS age 8. I have just one question to ask, If O.k. with you? No one (teachers) at your childs school brought up concerns to you about your son? scrapbookingmomof4 <scrapbookingmomof4@...> wrote: Hi, My name is Gail and my husband and I just recently lead a group on a missions trip to Mexico. One of our team members is a spec. ed. teacher and works with children with autism and asperger's syndrome. She asked me if my son (age 10) was autistic. I told her no and then through more conversation, I was thinking that maybe he was. When we got home, I looked up some sites on the Internet and after looking at the characteristics (he was at the minimum or more on every one of them), my husband and I are convinced that he has Asperger's Syndrome. It is funny because we have always said that he was a kid that danced to the beat of a different drum. We have always known he was different and with four kids, we have a few to compare to. He has always been more of a loner and he does not like making eye contact. Now that we have looked this information up, all his little quirky things make sense, things like flapping his hands, walking in circles, making motions like cracking his fingers over and over again, not looking you in the eyes, etc. While we were at the movie store yesterday, he was pacing forward one step and backward one step over and over while choosing his game. We always thought he had to go to the bathroom all the time. Recently, before having any of this information, I was thinking that all of these things he does were getting more pronounced and my husband read on a wed site that things can get worse from ages 10 - 14 as they entire the teenage years. Wow, my head is spinning but it is good because all of these things he does are now making sense. We did call our pediatrician and we have an appointment to talk to him about it on October 17. Anyway, I am totally new to all of this and found this site. Thank you for letting me share. I look forward to reading the posts here to gain more understanding. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Hi, When I talked to the teachers about it after we looked into it, they said that things were starting to make sense. We were homeschooling until January of last year and then my son went into the class room for the rest of the year. We had always thought he was ADD but never tested it. I talked to his teacher from last year and told her what we were doing and if she could remember back to anything that would be helpful for the doctor. After speaking to her, she said that a lot of things about him would make sense. His teacher from this year, who has only had him for a month said that she had seen some things she was watching. When he gets nervous, he would start to flap his hands and such. He will also zone out more then normal but he is very bright. Some of his achievement tests last year put his reading at high school level or beyond. There have been others who have been irritated with some of his actions but we always said, it was just who he was. He also gets very involved in subjects at school, especially science, where he will obsesively talk about what he is learning and give way more information than a kid his age would normally do. I don't know if that answers some of that. Gail > Hi, > My name is Gail and my husband and I just recently lead a group on a > missions trip to Mexico. One of our team members is a spec. ed. > teacher and works with children with autism and asperger's > syndrome. She asked me if my son (age 10) was autistic. I told her > no and then through more conversation, I was thinking that maybe he > was. When we got home, I looked up some sites on the Internet and > after looking at the characteristics (he was at the minimum or more > on every one of them), my husband and I are convinced that he has > Asperger's Syndrome. It is funny because we have always said that > he was a kid that danced to the beat of a different drum. We have > always known he was different and with four kids, we have a few to > compare to. He has always been more of a loner and he does not like > making eye contact. Now that we have looked this information up, > all his little quirky things make sense, things like flapping his > hands, walking in circles, making motions like cracking his fingers > over and over again, not looking you in the eyes, etc. While we > were at the movie store yesterday, he was pacing forward one step > and backward one step over and over while choosing his game. We > always thought he had to go to the bathroom all the time. Recently, > before having any of this information, I was thinking that all of > these things he does were getting more pronounced and my husband > read on a wed site that things can get worse from ages 10 - 14 as > they entire the teenage years. Wow, my head is spinning but it is > good because all of these things he does are now making sense. We > did call our pediatrician and we have an appointment to talk to him > about it on October 17. > Anyway, I am totally new to all of this and found this site. > Thank you for letting me share. I look forward to reading the posts > here to gain more understanding. > > Gail > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Yes, I didn't know you home school him. that answered alot. Some teachers don't want to see any concerns, that's why I asked. My son too, likes science. He will ask questions that the teacher said she will have to find that out for him. There are people in this group that know " alot " about autism and things you need to know at the CSE meetings. I read alot on this site. some even post information that is very helpful. alot of parents have concerns that I can relate too and any questions I have asked, everybody that answered were very nice and explained very clear, (their answers). this is a great group... Gail Carlson <scrapbookingmomof4@...> wrote:Hi, When I talked to the teachers about it after we looked into it, they said that things were starting to make sense. We were homeschooling until January of last year and then my son went into the class room for the rest of the year. We had always thought he was ADD but never tested it. I talked to his teacher from last year and told her what we were doing and if she could remember back to anything that would be helpful for the doctor. After speaking to her, she said that a lot of things about him would make sense. His teacher from this year, who has only had him for a month said that she had seen some things she was watching. When he gets nervous, he would start to flap his hands and such. He will also zone out more then normal but he is very bright. Some of his achievement tests last year put his reading at high school level or beyond. There have been others who have been irritated with some of his actions but we always said, it was just who he was. He also gets very involved in subjects at school, especially science, where he will obsesively talk about what he is learning and give way more information than a kid his age would normally do. I don't know if that answers some of that. Gail Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote: Hello, I have a child with AS age 8. I have just one question to ask, If O.k. with you? No one (teachers) at your childs school brought up concerns to you about your son? scrapbookingmomof4 <scrapbookingmomof4@...> wrote: Hi, My name is Gail and my husband and I just recently lead a group on a missions trip to Mexico. One of our team members is a spec. ed. teacher and works with children with autism and asperger's syndrome. She asked me if my son (age 10) was autistic. I told her no and then through more conversation, I was thinking that maybe he was. When we got home, I looked up some sites on the Internet and after looking at the characteristics (he was at the minimum or more on every one of them), my husband and I are convinced that he has Asperger's Syndrome. It is funny because we have always said that he was a kid that danced to the beat of a different drum. We have always known he was different and with four kids, we have a few to compare to. He has always been more of a loner and he does not like making eye contact. Now that we have looked this information up, all his little quirky things make sense, things like flapping his hands, walking in circles, making motions like cracking his fingers over and over again, not looking you in the eyes, etc. While we were at the movie store yesterday, he was pacing forward one step and backward one step over and over while choosing his game. We always thought he had to go to the bathroom all the time. Recently, before having any of this information, I was thinking that all of these things he does were getting more pronounced and my husband read on a wed site that things can get worse from ages 10 - 14 as they entire the teenage years. Wow, my head is spinning but it is good because all of these things he does are now making sense. We did call our pediatrician and we have an appointment to talk to him about it on October 17. Anyway, I am totally new to all of this and found this site. Thank you for letting me share. I look forward to reading the posts here to gain more understanding. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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