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That sounds exactly like at 3. It also sounds EXACTLY like Dylan right

now--he's 20 months. used to throw things during his tantrums and is a

GREAT aim!! There was one night at bowling that he got mad about something and

threw a bowling shoe at me, ending up hitting Dylan (who was a couple months old

at the time), me, and then Hunter, who happened to be sitting on a chair behind

me. But once he threw the shoe and hit me, he was over his mad. He couldn't

understand why I handed Dyl off to a friend and escorted him to the restroom for

a stern talking to. never really screamed during his fits--he was more

violent and aggressive. His favorite thing to do was beat his head against a

brick wall. We had the wall covered with sheet rock and padding!! : ) Dylan, on

the other hand, SCREAMS bloody murder every time he gets even just a little

upset over anything. He throws toys, cups, food, ANYTHING he gets his hands on

when he's mad. We're seeing so much of the behaviors had before he

started his Lexapro in Dylan, so we're wondering if he might be AS as well.

Everything you mentioned are the behaviors that we've dealt with with our

diagnosed AS and with our suspected AS. You are not alone!!!

mother of /8/anxiety, GERD, asthma

/6/AS, anxiety, epilepsy, asthma

Hunter/4/asthma

Dylan/1/NT (so far)

( ) 3yr old w/ AS

Would anyone be willing to share the things they have or are

experiencing w/ their toddler that has AS? My son has just been

diagnosed and I can't seem to find anything that gives me an idea of

what we are dealing w/ is typical for kids w/ AS. Isaiah has tantrums

that are out of this world, he hits us, pinches me, slaps me, throws

things, clears off a table w/ one hand.. screams for long periods of

time when he doesn't get his way.... some I guess would say, oh he's

just spoiled or he's naughty. We have never allowed this behavior from

our other 3 kids, and have done everything under the son to show Isaiah

that this isn't acceptable. It doesn't matter. Then when his episode is

done, it's done, that's it. It's like the switch flipped back to off.

Any of this sound familiar?? Thanks,

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I have a 3 yr old daughter with AS. She does all the things you mention. I am

constantly being told oh she is spoiled. I have three older daughters and a son.

They never acted like her and if they ever had their moments where they acted

out the behavior was corrected. They seem to get the idea it was wrong and that

was it. I feel like I am the one hitting my head on the brick wall. Hitting

seems to be her main thing right now. Also asking the same thing over and over!

It's like she thinks the answer will change. She also will repeat the last 4

words said to her. It used to be aloud but now she whispers it to herself. The

last big thing now is transition. She had a friend playing today at our house.

When her friends Mom came to pick her up it was a total meltdown. No amt. of

talking explaining to her did any good. Then its as if she turns her head and

she is over it.

Good Luck,

Tammie

( ) 3yr old w/ AS

Would anyone be willing to share the things they have or are

experiencing w/ their toddler that has AS? My son has just been

diagnosed and I can't seem to find anything that gives me an idea of

what we are dealing w/ is typical for kids w/ AS. Isaiah has tantrums

that are out of this world, he hits us, pinches me, slaps me, throws

things, clears off a table w/ one hand.. screams for long periods of

time when he doesn't get his way.... some I guess would say, oh he's

just spoiled or he's naughty. We have never allowed this behavior from

our other 3 kids, and have done everything under the son to show Isaiah

that this isn't acceptable. It doesn't matter. Then when his episode is

done, it's done, that's it. It's like the switch flipped back to off.

Any of this sound familiar?? Thanks,

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It's so nice to hear that what we are experiencing isn't just us. I'm

sorry we all have to deal w/ it, but at least we aren't alone!! We

have 3 other kids that are older and when they would act up like

normal toddlers we would discipline them appropriately and it would

be done. W/ Isaiah, it's like he could care less. When he started

smacking me across the face i was like, that's it, I'm done.

Something isn't right. I still feel like i'm in shock. We are going

to have him evulated further thru our school system so see if he will

qualify for the early childhood program. Im almost afraid they'll

say, oh he's fine, he's just naughty or something. I guess i'm still

adjusting to this. We already have a daughter that was born w/ a

physical disability-her bladder was on the outside of her body. She's

had 12 surgeries and we've been thru hell w/ all of that. Now I feel

like here we go again just in a different realm. Does that make

sense? I hear that kids w/ AS fall under being diagnosed w/ Autism

which is a recognized disabiltiy.. all of that is still a mystery to

me as well. Again I have rambled. Thanks for replying and listening!

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-- In , " Tammie " <trloe06@...> wrote:

>

> I have a 3 yr old daughter with AS. She does all the things you

mention. I am constantly being told oh she is spoiled. I have three

older daughters and a son. They never acted like her and if they ever

had their moments where they acted out the behavior was corrected.

They seem to get the idea it was wrong and that was it. I feel like I

am the one hitting my head on the brick wall. Hitting seems to be her

main thing right now. Also asking the same thing over and over! It's

like she thinks the answer will change. She also will repeat the last

4 words said to her. It used to be aloud but now she whispers it to

herself. The last big thing now is transition. She had a friend

playing today at our house. When her friends Mom came to pick her up

it was a total meltdown. No amt. of talking explaining to her did any

good. Then its as if she turns her head and she is over it.

> Good Luck,

> Tammie

> ( ) 3yr old w/ AS

>

>

> Would anyone be willing to share the things they have or are

> experiencing w/ their toddler that has AS? My son has just been

> diagnosed and I can't seem to find anything that gives me an idea

of

> what we are dealing w/ is typical for kids w/ AS. Isaiah has

tantrums

> that are out of this world, he hits us, pinches me, slaps me,

throws

> things, clears off a table w/ one hand.. screams for long periods

of

> time when he doesn't get his way.... some I guess would say, oh

he's

> just spoiled or he's naughty. We have never allowed this behavior

from

> our other 3 kids, and have done everything under the son to show

Isaiah

> that this isn't acceptable. It doesn't matter. Then when his

episode is

> done, it's done, that's it. It's like the switch flipped back to

off.

> Any of this sound familiar?? Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

I wish I'd known that my son had Asperger's at 3. He scratched, bit,

punched, pulled hair, screamed etc, and from the age of 2 every

doctor etc I took him to said that it was just parenting issues (I

was single mum to 4 kids at the time - 5 now). It took my parents to

take for a while (about 6 months), partly out of desperation

at the time, to get any kind of answers. He was 6 at the time. Even

now I find it difficult to get health proffesionals to take me

seriously (even though he was diagnosed by Dr Tony Attwood). I

pretty much don't bother any more with " help " for (apart from

what I arrange for myself - he gets 4 hours a week with a respite

worker who takes him fishing or to the footy). Once I got the

diagnosis, doctor's just wanted to have him on medication and over

the next 4 years we tried heaps (ritalin - disastorous-like on

speed, anti-depresants and anti-psycotic - like respiridal-used for

schizophrenia). I finally realised that medication was not the

answer (for anyway - I'm not dissing what works for other

families), so the last 2 years has been about trying to find other

things to help . We are only just starting diet now, as every

doctor I have asked about diet has told me that it wouldn't make any

differece and that my time would be better spent working on

parenting issues! Incidentally, my other kids don't have major

behavioural problems. Something else you might find interesting is

that my 10 year old son (who was diagnosed at 2 as Autistic but

after an intensive therapy program was considered 'normal' at 3),

chucked such huge tantrums at 2 that I was bewildered as to what to

do for him. He rocked and banged his head (so much that he had to

wear a helmet to protect his forehead). His tantrums involved

screaming for hours at a time. He would not be comforted. He would

go rigid and arch his back when I picked him up, and just scream and

scream. The tantrums stopped when he was about 3 and a half, but

were replaced by night terrors, sleep walking and restless sleep.

What I want to say to you is that it will get better. Also you have

the benefit of knowledge (about Asperger's) and some very

experienced parents to communicate with in this support group (I'm a

newie to the group too). is 13 now and has temper problems,

anxiety and anger/aggression, etc. I have had an email from another

mum who has told me that there are 2 kinds of AS kids - quiet and

placid (doctor's seem to be under the impression that all AS kids

are like this) and the kind my son is (active, loud, behaviour

issues, etc). Lots of mums in this group have reminded me that they

call it Autism spectrum for a reason - that all kids on the spectrum

from Autistic to high functioning to Asperger's and everything in

between are individual and no 2 are exactly the same. My own take on

this has always been that Asperger's does not mean that

doesn't have a unique personality. I have literally been told by

some doctors/ psycologists that that is exactly what they think it

is!

Anyway, LOL

Jenner (from Queensland, Australia)

>

> Would anyone be willing to share the things they have or are

> experiencing w/ their toddler that has AS? My son has just been

> diagnosed and I can't seem to find anything that gives me an idea

of

> what we are dealing w/ is typical for kids w/ AS. Isaiah has

tantrums

> that are out of this world, he hits us, pinches me, slaps me,

throws

> things, clears off a table w/ one hand.. screams for long periods

of

> time when he doesn't get his way.... some I guess would say, oh

he's

> just spoiled or he's naughty. We have never allowed this behavior

from

> our other 3 kids, and have done everything under the son to show

Isaiah

> that this isn't acceptable. It doesn't matter. Then when his

episode is

> done, it's done, that's it. It's like the switch flipped back to

off.

> Any of this sound familiar?? Thanks,

>

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What state are you in? I am not sure about other states but I am in Texas. Here

the schools give our kids the PDD-NOS diagnosis. It's where they get their

funding from (I was told) Did your Dr that diagnosed him give any things in

his/her report about therapies he will need or any type of schooling? Ours did

so I took that to the school with me. A trained psychologist will be able to see

his problems that will qualify him for the school program.

Yes, it makes sense my 15 yr old has a physical disability (OI) and I have

battled the school for services for her since she was 5.

Tammie

( ) 3yr old w/ AS

>

>

> Would anyone be willing to share the things they have or are

> experiencing w/ their toddler that has AS? My son has just been

> diagnosed and I can't seem to find anything that gives me an idea

of

> what we are dealing w/ is typical for kids w/ AS. Isaiah has

tantrums

> that are out of this world, he hits us, pinches me, slaps me,

throws

> things, clears off a table w/ one hand.. screams for long periods

of

> time when he doesn't get his way.... some I guess would say, oh

he's

> just spoiled or he's naughty. We have never allowed this behavior

from

> our other 3 kids, and have done everything under the son to show

Isaiah

> that this isn't acceptable. It doesn't matter. Then when his

episode is

> done, it's done, that's it. It's like the switch flipped back to

off.

> Any of this sound familiar?? Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Well my AS son is not throwing tantrums yet. He has always been the

quiet and placid type but I just wanted to tell you that I can relate

to having two children with special needs. My first child was born

with Down Syndrome and had 4 open heart surgeries and 2 abdominal

surgeries and then we lost her at 13 months to a brain hemmhorage. I

am pregnant with my third and just praying that I might get to

experience an NT child although I love my special kids so much and

will take what God gives me. When did Isaiah start the angry

outbursts? I just wonder because my AS son is only two but he has

started getting a tad more agressive lately which isn't like him.

Take Care-

Heidi

>

> It's so nice to hear that what we are experiencing isn't just us.

I'm

> sorry we all have to deal w/ it, but at least we aren't alone!! We

> have 3 other kids that are older and when they would act up like

> normal toddlers we would discipline them appropriately and it would

> be done. W/ Isaiah, it's like he could care less. When he started

> smacking me across the face i was like, that's it, I'm done.

> Something isn't right. I still feel like i'm in shock. We are

going

> to have him evulated further thru our school system so see if he

will

> qualify for the early childhood program. Im almost afraid they'll

> say, oh he's fine, he's just naughty or something. I guess i'm

still

> adjusting to this. We already have a daughter that was born w/ a

> physical disability-her bladder was on the outside of her body.

She's

> had 12 surgeries and we've been thru hell w/ all of that. Now I

feel

> like here we go again just in a different realm. Does that make

> sense? I hear that kids w/ AS fall under being diagnosed w/ Autism

> which is a recognized disabiltiy.. all of that is still a mystery

to

> me as well. Again I have rambled. Thanks for replying and

listening!

> -

>

>

>

>

>

> -- In , " Tammie " <trloe06@> wrote:

> >

> > I have a 3 yr old daughter with AS. She does all the things you

> mention. I am constantly being told oh she is spoiled. I have three

> older daughters and a son. They never acted like her and if they

ever

> had their moments where they acted out the behavior was corrected.

> They seem to get the idea it was wrong and that was it. I feel like

I

> am the one hitting my head on the brick wall. Hitting seems to be

her

> main thing right now. Also asking the same thing over and over!

It's

> like she thinks the answer will change. She also will repeat the

last

> 4 words said to her. It used to be aloud but now she whispers it to

> herself. The last big thing now is transition. She had a friend

> playing today at our house. When her friends Mom came to pick her

up

> it was a total meltdown. No amt. of talking explaining to her did

any

> good. Then its as if she turns her head and she is over it.

> > Good Luck,

> > Tammie

> > ( ) 3yr old w/ AS

> >

> >

> > Would anyone be willing to share the things they have or are

> > experiencing w/ their toddler that has AS? My son has just been

> > diagnosed and I can't seem to find anything that gives me an

idea

> of

> > what we are dealing w/ is typical for kids w/ AS. Isaiah has

> tantrums

> > that are out of this world, he hits us, pinches me, slaps me,

> throws

> > things, clears off a table w/ one hand.. screams for long

periods

> of

> > time when he doesn't get his way.... some I guess would say, oh

> he's

> > just spoiled or he's naughty. We have never allowed this

behavior

> from

> > our other 3 kids, and have done everything under the son to

show

> Isaiah

> > that this isn't acceptable. It doesn't matter. Then when his

> episode is

> > done, it's done, that's it. It's like the switch flipped back

to

> off.

> > Any of this sound familiar?? Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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This sounds very familiar. One thing I have to remember with the

behavior is that its is not the problem, it is the symptom. Now that

Devin is almost six the tantrums have gotten less frequent but more

explosive. Usually if I watch and figure out the triggers I can stop

the situation completly avoiding the meltdown. Sometimes I miss it

and I can't stop it. I can not be with him all of the time now that

he is in school so the teachers are having to learn to watch for

these things. It is a process and I won't say a fun process. But I

have found that if we tackle it one meltdown at a time we can get

through it. Hope that helps. Lenore

>

> Would anyone be willing to share the things they have or are

> experiencing w/ their toddler that has AS? My son has just been

> diagnosed and I can't seem to find anything that gives me an idea

of

> what we are dealing w/ is typical for kids w/ AS. Isaiah has

tantrums

> that are out of this world, he hits us, pinches me, slaps me,

throws

> things, clears off a table w/ one hand.. screams for long periods

of

> time when he doesn't get his way.... some I guess would say, oh

he's

> just spoiled or he's naughty. We have never allowed this behavior

from

> our other 3 kids, and have done everything under the son to show

Isaiah

> that this isn't acceptable. It doesn't matter. Then when his

episode is

> done, it's done, that's it. It's like the switch flipped back to

off.

> Any of this sound familiar?? Thanks,

>

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