Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 In a message dated 2/11/2006 10:29:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, jett@... writes: ** Tell that to my son who has an " unspecified " allergy to the shots that they gave him going so far as to have hives. Also there is no safe dose for fermaldyhide which is found in most vaccines. There are various companies and they all have different things that they place into the vaccines (for the record I got this directly from my son's genetics team and his allergist). They pointed out that while the vaccines are not always " safe " the " alternative " is better then the actual catching of the disease in some cases. Perhaps it is you who should do the actual research or speak to a qualified professional? ** ** Please cool your jets. Obviously, you feel strongly about not using vaccines but others don't agree and that's fine too. If people want to check into it more, they certainly can. But not agreeing doesn't mean others are wrong. You do it your way, others can do it theres. My kids all were vaccinated and we never had a reaction to any of them. So what happened to you isn't true for us all. Roxanna ô¿ô Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 In a message dated 2/11/2006 10:49:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, kidsnme@... writes: Gosh girls I for one like to hear everyones thoughts and ideas on things.. Broad statements or not. As I can make my decisions and this leads me to research things... We are all here for support and to learn what we can . Maybe so. But we have long time members on here who really do a good job trying to keep statements within the factoid range. And I think that is really important and appreciate their help in doing this. If you just want grand statements whether they are true or not, this is not the list for it! Roxanna ô¿ö Autism Happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 In a message dated 2/11/2006 11:16:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, jett@... rg writes: ** As an aside, the reason that I lost my cool was she acted as if I was putting my " opinions " out there as facts when I had facts. *shrug* I do not like being told that I am giving false information when I am absolutely sure that I am correct. Actually, I agree with her. What is true for you isn't necessarily true for all of us. Like changing the entire system/way of doing it - you want it changed and feel it must be changed but some people don't agree. It could be it doesn't change because it works for the most part. Roxanna ô¿ô Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 In a message dated 2/11/2006 11:17:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, jett@... writes: ** I never said that I felt strongly against using them now did I? Yes you have said it and implied it and everyone knows how you feel about it. Now we need to find a new subject. Please. Roxanna ô¿ö Autism Happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 > > , since thimerosal-free versions of most vaccines are now > available, I > don't think people would be putting poison into their children's > systems by > vaccinating them. You have been making quite a few sweeping > statements > without the evidence to back them up. You are perfectly within your > rights > to avoid vaccinating your children if that's what you decide to do, > but I > don't think you should present your opinions about vaccination as > facts. > ** Tell that to my son who has an " unspecified " allergy to the shots that they gave him going so far as to have hives. Also there is no safe dose for fermaldyhide which is found in most vaccines. There are various companies and they all have different things that they place into the vaccines (for the record I got this directly from my son's genetics team and his allergist). They pointed out that while the vaccines are not always " safe " the " alternative " is better then the actual catching of the disease in some cases. Perhaps it is you who should do the actual research or speak to a qualified professional? ** ** > > ______________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Gosh girls I for one like to hear everyones thoughts and ideas on things.. Broad statements or not. As I can make my decisions and this leads me to research things... We are all here for support and to learn what we can . Jeannie with sendoutcards www.KidsNmeGreetings.com ¸...¸ __/ /\_\ ,·´º o`·,/__/ _/\_ \ ```)¨(´´´ | | | | | | | || | | | ¸,.-²°´ ¸,.-·~·~·-.,¸ `°·-. :º° As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord -- Re: ( ) To re vaccinations > > , since thimerosal-free versions of most vaccines are now > available, I > don't think people would be putting poison into their children's > systems by > vaccinating them. You have been making quite a few sweeping > statements > without the evidence to back them up. You are perfectly within your > rights > to avoid vaccinating your children if that's what you decide to do, > but I > don't think you should present your opinions about vaccination as > facts. > ** Tell that to my son who has an " unspecified " allergy to the shots that they gave him going so far as to have hives. Also there is no safe dose for fermaldyhide which is found in most vaccines. There are various companies and they all have different things that they place into the vaccines (for the record I got this directly from my son's genetics team and his allergist). They pointed out that while the vaccines are not always " safe " the " alternative " is better then the actual catching of the disease in some cases. Perhaps it is you who should do the actual research or speak to a qualified professional? ** ** > > ______________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 > > > Please cool your jets. Obviously, you feel strongly about not using > vaccines but others don't agree and that's fine too. If people want > to check into > it more, they certainly can. But not agreeing doesn't mean others > are wrong. > You do it your way, others can do it theres. My kids all were > vaccinated > and we never had a reaction to any of them. So what happened to you > isn't true > for us all. ** I never said that I felt strongly against using them now did I? I stated that I felt they should be monitered properly and that people should only get them after they are certain that their body is no longer immune to the illness. Not on a regular schedule based on some arbitrary number without any way of qualifying that the vaccine took. They should test MORE not less on the subject to make sure the population that they are vaccinating are actually immune. If we have the technology to test these things what is the excuse for not doing it? I just did not like her tone against me when I would point out the flaws in the logic that vaccines are the only route. ** ** > > ______________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 > > Please cool your jets. Obviously, you feel strongly about not using > vaccines but others don't agree and that's fine too. If people want > to check into > it more, they certainly can. But not agreeing doesn't mean others > are wrong. > You do it your way, others can do it theres. My kids all were > vaccinated > and we never had a reaction to any of them. So what happened to you > isn't true > for us all. > ** As an aside, the reason that I lost my cool was she acted as if I was putting my " opinions " out there as facts when I had facts. *shrug* I do not like being told that I am giving false information when I am absolutely sure that I am correct. My experience might not be the " norm " but it does not mean that my points were not valid. As I had thought I was saying previously, I believe that instead of vaccinating people on a vaccine schedule we should use some of the technology that we have to determine who needs the vaccines and who does not. If you go in regularly (every year or so) and get a blood titer count they can tailor the vaccine schedule to your actual need rather then by using a " general " model. No one fits the general model. Medicene really and truly is different person to person and instead of us tailoring the profession to meet the needs of various individuals we are trying to make it into a factory operation such as building a car. That doesn't seem to be working and the model is broken requiring changes. The American Medical Association and the government realize that the entire thing is a mess but no one has succeeded in changing it. No one has really even tried to tackle it. There needs to be a complete rethinking on the entire subject. Unfortunately that requires people to take time out and actually concentrate on the problem. There aren't enought think tanks that try to figure out the actual problems so the broken system continues to hobble along and eventually it will collapse. ** ** > > ______________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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