Re: Why is it that does things at home but not at other places?

[Guest guest]

i'm not sure how you organize your home life but i was having similar

problems when andrew was in ppcd. i ended up putting him on a schedule,

doing the same thing at the same time everyday. i noticed improvement very

quickly. i think the reason that he did better at school was because, at

school his day was much more organized and he always knew what to expect.

hth

bernadette

On 2/14/06, Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...> wrote:

>

> There are some things that does here at home and around family that

> he hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school. For instance, he

> flaps his hands a lot when he's really excited about things. He walks on his

> toes sometimes, not all that often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at

> school they say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory issues at home but

> doesn't seem to have them at school. At the eval for the PPCD program, they

> put on there that seperated from mother without any problems, but yet

> when I'm dropping him off at school it's like a huge ordeal complete with

> screaming, crying, and clutching onto me for dear life like I'm never coming

> back. They also put on there that mother reported child shakes head and

> flaps hands but neither of these were observed during the eval. So why is he

> doing these things at home? I'm just wondering if anyone else has had any

> simular experiences with their child or children. Is this going to hinder my

> results with the child

> study people? I'm so confused again guys.

>

>

> Leighanne

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Oh yes, My DD is with very few exceptions the perfect child.

At home I have her hit, slap, do things over and over after being told NO! She

toe walks, repeats my speech that I have just said to her. Won't transition to

other things, yet at school they see none of this or very little. I am beginning

to think they don't think her issues are as severe as I think.

Good Luck,

Tammie

Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...> wrote:

There are some things that does here at home and around family that he

hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school. For instance, he flaps his

hands a lot when he's really excited about things. He walks on his toes

sometimes, not all that often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at school they

say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory issues at home but doesn't seem to

have them at school. At the eval for the PPCD program, they put on there that

seperated from mother without any problems, but yet when I'm dropping him

off at school it's like a huge ordeal complete with screaming, crying, and

clutching onto me for dear life like I'm never coming back. They also put on

there that mother reported child shakes head and flaps hands but neither of

these were observed during the eval. So why is he doing these things at home?

I'm just wondering if anyone else has had any simular experiences with their

child or children. Is this going to hinder my results with the child

study people? I'm so confused again guys.

Leighanne

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Leighanne,

My son is 9 years old and when he was 3, I started telling everyone there is

something wrong with him. He didn't discipline like other kids we had, he

was angry for no reason. He would head butt us for no apparent reason. He

walked on his toes had muscle tone issues, didn't play well with others, etc

He would have anger outbursts at home and although they saw some of this at

pre school most of it happened at home. Finally at about age 5 I told the

psychiatrist I took my kids to for ADD that I needed some help or it was

going to be a failed adoption. I thought he hated me and that was the whole

problem. Didn't know he had Asperger's.

The doctor said he felt safe at home and that was why we were seeing it more

at home, unconditional love, you know.

Well this fall the transitioning times started to get worse and now he was

acting out at school and his principle finally asked me if he had ever been

evaluated for AS. Well geez.....No.

Since he has been evaluated and is getting more appropriate interventions

things are a bit better but I can not believe how bad things got before I

was able to get the right answers. It seems a lot of the diagnosis is based

on what you and others report. When we go to the doctors, they don't see

this behavior. My son sits there like a perfect gentleman and you would

never guess there is anything wrong. It took us 6 years of hell to get the

right answers but I feel so much more hope now, so don't give up. You live

him and know how he is so keep after it.

Suzanne

-- ( ) Why is it that does things at home but

not at other places?

There are some things that does here at home and around family that

he hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school. For instance, he

flaps his hands a lot when he's really excited about things. He walks on his

toes sometimes, not all that often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at

school they say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory issues at home but

doesn't seem to have them at school. At the eval for the PPCD program, they

put on there that seperated from mother without any problems, but yet

when I'm dropping him off at school it's like a huge ordeal complete with

screaming, crying, and clutching onto me for dear life like I'm never coming

back. They also put on there that mother reported child shakes head and

flaps hands but neither of these were observed during the eval. So why is he

doing these things at home? I'm just wondering if anyone else has had any

simular experiences with their child or children. Is this going to hinder my

results with the child

study people? I'm so confused again guys.

Leighanne

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[Guest guest]

From what I've been told and have experienced, home is the worst

place for our kiddo's to addapt. Think about it...constant

inturruptions, little or no structured schedule, (or at least in my

house - I have three boys all born within 2 1/2 years) and there may

be other factors that play into your childs environment that cause

these type of reactions. The triggers are there for these kids. In

my situation, I control what I can and try in every way possible to

keep some things routine for my DS. When things get to be too much

for my DS, I put his bearhug vest on (not weighted) and it calms him

down.

> There are some things that does here at home and around

family that he hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school.

For instance, he flaps his hands a lot when he's really excited about

things. He walks on his toes sometimes, not all that often. He has

aggresive behaviour, but at school they say he is a wonderful kid. He

has sensory issues at home but doesn't seem to have them at school.

At the eval for the PPCD program, they put on there that

seperated from mother without any problems, but yet when I'm dropping

him off at school it's like a huge ordeal complete with screaming,

crying, and clutching onto me for dear life like I'm never coming

back. They also put on there that mother reported child shakes head

and flaps hands but neither of these were observed during the eval.

So why is he doing these things at home? I'm just wondering if anyone

else has had any simular experiences with their child or children. Is

this going to hinder my results with the child

> study people? I'm so confused again guys.

>

>

> Leighanne

>

>

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[Guest guest]

My aspie is now 18. She even tells me that she is sorry, but she can't help

herself at times. She also said its because I'm safe. Hang in there. In a way

it's a blessing that she was never aggressive at school. It's on her record.

When she goes to get a job they won't be worried about her losing control. I am

still hoping that will happen some day.

Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...> wrote:

There are some things that does here at home and around family that he

hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school. For instance, he flaps his

hands a lot when he's really excited about things. He walks on his toes

sometimes, not all that often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at school they

say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory issues at home but doesn't seem to

have them at school. At the eval for the PPCD program, they put on there that

seperated from mother without any problems, but yet when I'm dropping him

off at school it's like a huge ordeal complete with screaming, crying, and

clutching onto me for dear life like I'm never coming back. They also put on

there that mother reported child shakes head and flaps hands but neither of

these were observed during the eval. So why is he doing these things at home?

I'm just wondering if anyone else has had any simular experiences with their

child or children. Is this going to hinder my results with the child

study people? I'm so confused again guys.

Leighanne

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

when my son was very young, approx 2 years old. He used to flap his hands

when excited. make loud noises. walk on toes (sometimes) but no one at school

has seen him do this. I said he does the hand flapping when excited. they

still said they didn't see this at school. So, I video taped him at the park,

at the fun rides, beach. I let them see the tape. that helped him get more

services at school. including O.T. He no longer flaps his hands when excited.

but rolls his hands together near his mouth to hide his laugh. much better than

flapping his hands. I think he did do it at school, just no one noticed it,

cause they were not looking for it. hummm.

Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...> wrote:

There are some things that does here at home and around family that he

hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school. For instance, he flaps his

hands a lot when he's really excited about things. He walks on his toes

sometimes, not all that often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at school they

say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory issues at home but doesn't seem to

have them at school. At the eval for the PPCD program, they put on there that

seperated from mother without any problems, but yet when I'm dropping him

off at school it's like a huge ordeal complete with screaming, crying, and

clutching onto me for dear life like I'm never coming back. They also put on

there that mother reported child shakes head and flaps hands but neither of

these were observed during the eval. So why is he doing these things at home?

I'm just wondering if anyone else has had any simular experiences with their

child or children. Is this going to hinder my results with the child

study people? I'm so confused again guys.

Leighanne

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Tammie,

That's what's worrying me about his SI Dysfunction. At home, the sound of the

vaccumm has him on the couch crunched up into a corner in tears, but the OT said

that during the eval there was a floor buffing machine going and that it was

really really loud and that it never seemed to bother andrew that he simply

asked what's that. I know that the can't get a full and complete eval in one

session. I've discussed these concerns with his ST and she said that once he

gets comfortable going there that his real personality will show through because

she has seen him be agressive with me and the yelling and screaming and anger

outbursts that go on. They also put that he had no oral motor issues but he very

much so does. She also thinks that once they get to working with him on his

speech that they will see this and we can then work on this also. I'm just

soooooo worried that there is something like HFA or PDD-NOS going on but that

they won't diagnose him because my report and his PPCD

Teachers report will look completely opposite. Is there anyway to get my

concerns across so that she will take them into account when making a diagnoses?

Leighanne

Tammie <kjsa3612@...> wrote:

Oh yes, My DD is with very few exceptions the perfect child.

At home I have her hit, slap, do things over and over after being told NO! She

toe walks, repeats my speech that I have just said to her. Won't transition to

other things, yet at school they see none of this or very little. I am beginning

to think they don't think her issues are as severe as I think.

Good Luck,

Tammie

Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...> wrote:

There are some things that does here at home and around family that he

hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school. For instance, he flaps his

hands a lot when he's really excited about things. He walks on his toes

sometimes, not all that often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at school they

say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory issues at home but doesn't seem to

have them at school. At the eval for the PPCD program, they put on there that

seperated from mother without any problems, but yet when I'm dropping him

off at school it's like a huge ordeal complete with screaming, crying, and

clutching onto me for dear life like I'm never coming back. They also put on

there that mother reported child shakes head and flaps hands but neither of

these were observed during the eval. So why is he doing these things at home?

I'm just wondering if anyone else has had any simular experiences with their

child or children. Is this going to hinder my results with the child

study people? I'm so confused again guys.

Leighanne

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When he was younger, my stepson acted out at school, but not at home.

My husband and his ex-wife were absolutely shocked when he was thrown

out of private school for unacceptable behavior (threatening to blow

other children away, physical altracations, etc.)

With my husband's guidance, my stepson learned to behave more

appropriately at school. UNFORTUNATELY, his behavior at home

deteriorated.

Now, my stepson is a model student, the teachers say he's their

favorite.

My regret is not nanny-camming the meltdowns, the rages, the cursing,

the threats, etc., before he went to live with his mother.

He told horrific stories about the things his mother did to him. Now

he's living with her again, and I'm sure telling her horrific stories

about how we supposedly abused him, etc.

My stepson is ADHD, AS, and schizo-affective; therefore, perhaps the

moodswings and paranoia make him more volatile.

The counselor said that he could only maintain for a period of time.

If he maintained at home, he could not maintain his composure at

school. If he behaved at school, he could not hold it together at

home.

Meltdowns, in his case, are inevitable (which is sad when you consider

that maintaining on a job and as a potential spouse and a parent will

be difficult if not impossible for him to accomplish).

[Guest guest]

Hi Leighanne,

>>There are some things that does here at home and around family that

>>he hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school. For instance, he

>>flaps his hands a lot when he's really excited about things. He walks on

>>his toes sometimes, not all that often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at

>>school they say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory issues at home but

>>doesn't seem to have them at school. At the eval for the PPCD program,

>>they put on there that seperated from mother without any problems,

>>but yet when I'm dropping him off at school it's like a huge ordeal

>>complete with screaming, crying, and clutching onto me for dear life like

>>I'm never coming back. They also put on there that mother reported child

>>shakes head and flaps hands but neither of these were observed during the

>>eval. So why is he doing these things at home? <<

It is not at all uncommon for an ASD child to show lots of 'autistic'

behaviours, like hand flapping and 'aggression' at home, which is his safe

place, but not elsewhere.

in England

[Guest guest]

My son does much the same thing - apart from the crying - the child

psychologist and paediatrician both said it is normal. Often it is because

they try harder to be 'normal' at school, etc, then they 'recover' at home.

I know I put a lot less effort into being normal when I am around people I

trust - almost none at all when I am alone . If the people doing the

evaluation are familiar with ADHD or ASD kids they will pay attention to

what you say about how he is at home.

-------Original Message-------

From: Leighanne Ratliff

Date: 02/15/06 16:13:49

There are some things that does here at home and around family that

he hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school. For instance, he

flaps his hands a lot when he's really excited about things. He walks on his

toes sometimes, not all that often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at

school they say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory issues at home but

doesn't seem to have them at school. At the eval for the PPCD program, they

put on there that seperated from mother without any problems, but yet

when I'm dropping him off at school it's like a huge ordeal complete with

screaming, crying, and clutching onto me for dear life like I'm never coming

back. They also put on there that mother reported child shakes head and

flaps hands but neither of these were observed during the eval. So why is he

doing these things at home? I'm just wondering if anyone else has had any

simular experiences with their child or children. Is this going to hinder my

results with the child study people? I'm so confused again guys.

Leighanne

[Guest guest]

Rowell wrote:

It is not at all uncommon for an ASD child to show lots

of 'autistic'

behaviours, like hand flapping and 'aggression' at home, which is his safe place, but not elsewhere.

I did not know that this was also a sign of aspergers as my son had

done that alot when he was younger but he still flapps his hand when he

is excited, do they grow out of this or does it just continue to get

less common? My son also used to be very aggessive but that too has

calmed down. What I have to deal with is inapporperate behavior. He is

11 years old and for example he asked his principal if he is gay,(which

he is) I could not believe that my son asked him that!!It's not like he

wasnt taught manners, and at this age, I would have expected more,

there are more things, like always always bothering his sister, not

inapproperatly ways but always huggnig her, teasing her etc, I know

some of that is normal sibling behavior but this is like to an extream.

My son, which I would like to know if this is "normal" he is LOUD, if

he is not talking he is making noises, laughing, which by the way he

says that he doesnt know what his laugh is, Has anyone every had a

child who does not feel comfortable in knowing what their own laugh is?

Im just now exploring aspergers and would like any and all information

Thanks

Aletha

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[Guest guest]

My daughter does this too. I feel in her case it is

partially that her meds are totally kicked in at

school but I also think they are able to respond and

behave as they have observed is correct for short

periods of time if they are not unduly stressed. After

all, these kids are not unintelligent. They do not

have the understanding of why one acts a certain way

in a certain situation, but they can observe that

others do and try to " act normal " . Also they feel

safer around their homes/families so they are more

expressive (for them anyway). These are just my

opinions but Elissa does this too and has since she

was old enough to pay attention to these types of

things, she sometimes forgets herself but ABSOLUTELY

NEVER around drs, psychologists, psychiatrists etc,

she sees them as an enemy no matter how it is

presented to her.

Good luck and God Bless.

Dee

--- Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...>

wrote:

> There are some things that does here at home

> and around family that he hasn't done, or no one has

> told me he does at school. For instance, he flaps

> his hands a lot when he's really excited about

> things. He walks on his toes sometimes, not all that

> often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at school

> they say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory

> issues at home but doesn't seem to have them at

> school. At the eval for the PPCD program, they put

> on there that seperated from mother without

> any problems, but yet when I'm dropping him off at

> school it's like a huge ordeal complete with

> screaming, crying, and clutching onto me for dear

> life like I'm never coming back. They also put on

> there that mother reported child shakes head and

> flaps hands but neither of these were observed

> during the eval. So why is he doing these things at

> home? I'm just wondering if anyone else has had any

> simular experiences with their child or children. Is

> this going to hinder my results with the child

> study people? I'm so confused again guys.

>

>

> Leighanne

>

>

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[Guest guest]

My son is also 11 and very similar. He is now able to stay up extra 30

minutes at night, but still insists on going in and hugging his little

sister goodnight - even if she is asleep. I hope he will grow out of some

of this.

-------Original Message-------

From: Aletha Moody

Date: 02/17/06 09:50:35

Rowell wrote:

It is not at all uncommon for an ASD child to show lots of 'autistic'

behaviours, like hand flapping and 'aggression' at home, which is his safe

place, but not elsewhere.

I did not know that this was also a sign of aspergers as my son had done

that alot when he was younger but he still flapps his hand when he is

excited, do they grow out of this or does it just continue to get less

common? My son also used to be very aggessive but that too has calmed down.

What I have to deal with is inapporperate behavior. He is 11 years old and

for example he asked his principal if he is gay,(which he is) I could not

believe that my son asked him that!!It's not like he wasnt taught manners,

and at this age, I would have expected more, there are more things, like

always always bothering his sister, not inapproperatly ways but always

huggnig her, teasing her etc, I know some of that is normal sibling behavior

but this is like to an extream. My son, which I would like to know if this

is " normal " he is LOUD, if he is not talking he is making noises, laughing,

which by the way he says that he doesnt know what his laugh is, Has anyone

every had a child who does not feel comfortable in knowing what their own

laugh is? Im just now exploring aspergers and would like any and all

information

Thanks

Aletha

[Guest guest]

Same thing with peter but only since we have moved to another district and he is in a new school. he was at his previous school from the age of 2 . he is 9 now. he was like the mayor of his private school greeting everyone knowing everything about the routines etc...and would carry on at his old school the same or almost the same as he did at home. he felt very comfortable at his old school and knew everyone there. Now, he is mainstreamed somewhat in a public school system and all of his behaviors are NOT carrying over from home to school and vice verse like it used to. He is very much in control at school now....all the time although some of his 'red flag' behaviors are coming to the surface now at school and the staff aren't picking them up at all.. But anyway, peter behaves well in the new school situation but comes home and melts down. I feel that he knows he needs to keep himself in check at school and the outlet for his

behaviors has become exclusively the home enviroment and it's killing the rest of us...LOL. I spoke to the teachers and they just tell me that everything is fine which I believe it is. The teachers can;t seem to grasp the idea that he's good in school and that he is "" at home.They have never experienced "" in all his glory and are just dismissing me and my "tall tales". It is very difficult to say the least . yet i have gotten notes home saying that was so hyper today" or something similar and they questioned as to whether he had gotten his meds or not,,,,Blah!!!!d corbin <jdcorbin_2000@...> wrote: My daughter does this too. I feel in her case it ispartially that her meds are totally kicked in atschool but I also think they are able to respond andbehave as they have observed is

correct for shortperiods of time if they are not unduly stressed. Afterall, these kids are not unintelligent. They do nothave the understanding of why one acts a certain wayin a certain situation, but they can observe thatothers do and try to "act normal". Also they feelsafer around their homes/families so they are moreexpressive (for them anyway). These are just myopinions but Elissa does this too and has since shewas old enough to pay attention to these types ofthings, she sometimes forgets herself but ABSOLUTELYNEVER around drs, psychologists, psychiatrists etc,she sees them as an enemy no matter how it ispresented to her. Good luck and God Bless. Dee--- Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...>wrote:> There are some things that does here at home> and around family that he hasn't done, or no one has> told me he does at school. For instance, he flaps> his

hands a lot when he's really excited about> things. He walks on his toes sometimes, not all that> often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at school> they say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory> issues at home but doesn't seem to have them at> school. At the eval for the PPCD program, they put> on there that seperated from mother without> any problems, but yet when I'm dropping him off at> school it's like a huge ordeal complete with> screaming, crying, and clutching onto me for dear> life like I'm never coming back. They also put on> there that mother reported child shakes head and> flaps hands but neither of these were observed> during the eval. So why is he doing these things at> home? I'm just wondering if anyone else has had any> simular experiences with their child or children. Is> this going to hinder my results with the child> study people? I'm

so confused again guys. > > > Leighanne> > > ---------------------------------> Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get> pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars.__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

You knw - that sounds a LOT like .

THe psychologists have said that he has "autistic behaviour" but are reluctant to diagnos actual autism.

seems to be "perfect" at school - well behavied and so on.

But it's to the point that if someone bugs him or hits him he won't retaliate.

Now............... i don't want my son to be a thug or think he ca get away with bad behaviour. BUT............................ i get really annoyed when others "get" to him a nd he doesn't retaliate. Maybe my "don't hit 1st" talks have got thru, but he doesn't retaliate AT ALL.

THen comes home and tells me.

I have told school, but they think that's ok - as long as he behaves there that's fine.

And i get left to deal with it.

I keep thinking that his time will come - he'll smack someone HARD and tro be honest, while i won't condone it, i CAN'T condem it either.

Re: Why is it that does things at home but not at other places?

Hi Leighanne,>>There are some things that does here at home and around family that >>he hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school. For instance, he >>flaps his hands a lot when he's really excited about things. He walks on >>his toes sometimes, not all that often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at >>school they say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory issues at home but >>doesn't seem to have them at school. At the eval for the PPCD program, >>they put on there that seperated from mother without any problems, >>but yet when I'm dropping him off at school it's like a huge ordeal >>complete with screaming, crying, and clutching onto me for dear life like >>I'm never coming back. They also put on there that mother reported child >>shakes head and flaps hands but neither of these were observed during the >>eval. So why is he doing these things at home? <<It is not at all uncommon for an ASD child to show lots of 'autistic' behaviours, like hand flapping and 'aggression' at home, which is his safe place, but not elsewhere. in England

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I would talk to the Head of your school district! Go down there and demand to speak to him. Tell him your child is being bullied because of a disability and the school doesn't want to do anything about it! Tell him that you have NO PROBLEM working your way up the ladder until you get what you want - your child to be safe at school. Our school encourages people to report bullies and there are always consequences. You could also call your local news paper, tv station and do a "human interest" story on the problems you are having with your district- LET THEM KNOW YOU WILL DO IT!!! Remember to be a BITCH- Babe, In, Total, Control, of Herself . I would also call your local ARC and get an advocate to go with you to your next IEP. Take Dr.s notes him saying that "if provoked he is likely to retaliate" so when he does hit back they can not do anything to him since they did nothing to prevent the behavior. Get a lawyer if you have the

money. Just remember you are his only advocate, don't let him down! Best Wishes, Deb C.JULIE JOHNSTON <julie.johnston12@...> wrote: You knw - that sounds a LOT like . THe psychologists have said that he has "autistic behaviour" but are reluctant to diagnos actual autism. seems to be "perfect" at school - well behavied and so on. But it's to the point that if someone bugs him or hits him he won't retaliate. Now............... i don't want my son to be a thug or think he ca get away with bad behaviour. BUT............................ i get really annoyed when others "get" to him a nd he doesn't retaliate. Maybe my "don't hit 1st" talks have got thru, but he doesn't retaliate AT ALL. THen comes home and tells me. I have told school, but they think that's ok - as long as he behaves there that's fine. And i get left to deal with it. I keep thinking that his time will come - he'll smack someone HARD and tro be honest, while i won't condone it, i CAN'T condem it either. Re: Why is it that does things at home but not at other places? Hi Leighanne,>>There are some things that does here at home and around family that >>he hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school. For instance, he >>flaps his hands a lot

when he's really excited about things. He walks on >>his toes sometimes, not all that often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at >>school they say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory issues at home but >>doesn't seem to have them at school. At the eval for the PPCD program, >>they put on there that seperated from mother without any problems, >>but yet when I'm dropping him off at school it's like a huge ordeal >>complete with screaming, crying, and clutching onto me for dear life like >>I'm never coming back. They also put on there that mother reported child >>shakes head and flaps hands but neither of these were observed during the >>eval. So why is he doing these things at home? <<It is not at all uncommon for an ASD child to show lots of 'autistic' behaviours, like hand flapping and 'aggression' at home, which is his safe place, but not elsewhere.

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child shakes head and flaps hands- This is called a STIM (self regulating behavior) Many autistic children do this. It happens when they are over stimulated to calm themselves. Like a favorite blanket or stuffed animal. It is a definite Autistic behavior. Deb C. <daisygoogles@...> wrote: Same thing with peter but only since we have moved to another district and he is in a new school. he was at his previous school from the age of 2 . he is 9 now. he was like the mayor of his private school greeting everyone knowing everything about the routines etc...and would carry on at his old school the same or almost the same as he did at home. he felt

very comfortable at his old school and knew everyone there. Now, he is mainstreamed somewhat in a public school system and all of his behaviors are NOT carrying over from home to school and vice verse like it used to. He is very much in control at school now....all the time although some of his 'red flag' behaviors are coming to the surface now at school and the staff aren't picking them up at all.. But anyway, peter behaves well in the new school situation but comes home and melts down. I feel that he knows he needs to keep himself in check at school and the outlet for his behaviors has become exclusively the home enviroment and it's killing the rest of us...LOL. I spoke to the teachers and they just tell me that everything is fine which I believe it is. The teachers can;t seem to grasp the idea that he's good in school and that he is "" at home.They have never experienced "" in all his glory and are just dismissing me and my

"tall tales". It is very difficult to say the least . yet i have gotten notes home saying that was so hyper today" or something similar and they questioned as to whether he had gotten his meds or not,,,,Blah!!!!d corbin <jdcorbin_2000@...> wrote: My daughter does this too. I feel in her case it ispartially that her meds are totally kicked in atschool but I also think they are able to respond andbehave as they have observed is correct for shortperiods of time if they are not unduly stressed. Afterall, these kids are not unintelligent. They do nothave the understanding of why one acts a certain wayin a certain situation, but they can observe thatothers do and try to "act normal". Also they feelsafer around their homes/families so they are moreexpressive (for them anyway). These

are just myopinions but Elissa does this too and has since shewas old enough to pay attention to these types ofthings, she sometimes forgets herself but ABSOLUTELYNEVER around drs, psychologists, psychiatrists etc,she sees them as an enemy no matter how it ispresented to her. Good luck and God Bless. Dee--- Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...>wrote:> There are some things that does here at home> and around family that he hasn't done, or no one has> told me he does at school. For instance, he flaps> his hands a lot when he's really excited about> things. He walks on his toes sometimes, not all that> often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at school> they say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory> issues at home but doesn't seem to have them at> school. At the eval for the PPCD program, they put> on there that seperated from mother

without> any problems, but yet when I'm dropping him off at> school it's like a huge ordeal complete with> screaming, crying, and clutching onto me for dear> life like I'm never coming back. They also put on> there that mother reported child shakes head and> flaps hands but neither of these were observed> during the eval. So why is he doing these things at> home? I'm just wondering if anyone else has had any> simular experiences with their child or children. Is> this going to hinder my results with the child> study people? I'm so confused again guys. > > > Leighanne> > > ---------------------------------> Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get> pricing, reviews, & more on new and used

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My Elissa is 13 as of a few weeks ago and doing the

same thing! She is " fine " at school, holds herself in

and then also has meltdowns at home which are " killing

us too! " I think it is a combination of the

unfamiliarlity of middle school, changing classrooms,

new classes, new expectations, new bldg, staff etc.

and that her meds are not in her system in the am and

are wearing off in the pm. I explained it to her

principal and teachers that when " mistakes " are made

with her at school or they miss flags and she doesn't

feel she can talk to them about things she is upset

about, we " pay " for it at home with meltdowns and

violence. At this point I also pointed out that Elissa

is pretty heavily medicated when they are dealing with

her and it has not kicked in in the am and is wearing

off in the pm, so whatever she is most upset about

comes out then...... Other than that, we are living

with it. It is slowly improving so I have hope. Don't

lose yours!!!

God Bless!

Dee

--- <daisygoogles@...> wrote:

> Same thing with peter but only since we have moved

> to another district and he is in a new school. he

> was at his previous school from the age of 2 . he is

> 9 now. he was like the mayor of his private school

> greeting everyone knowing everything about the

> routines etc...and would carry on at his old school

> the same or almost the same as he did at home.

> he felt very comfortable at his old school and

> knew everyone there.

> Now, he is mainstreamed somewhat in a public

> school system and all of his behaviors are NOT

> carrying over from home to school and vice verse

> like it used to. He is very much in control at

> school now....all the time although some of his 'red

> flag' behaviors are coming to the surface now at

> school and the staff aren't picking them up at all..

> But anyway, peter behaves well in the new school

> situation but comes home and melts down.

> I feel that he knows he needs to keep himself in

> check at school and the outlet for his behaviors has

> become exclusively the home enviroment and it's

> killing the rest of us...LOL.

> I spoke to the teachers and they just tell me that

> everything is fine which I believe it is. The

> teachers can;t seem to grasp the idea that he's good

> in school and that he is " " at home.They have

> never experienced " " in all his glory and are

> just dismissing me and my " tall tales " .

> It is very difficult to say the least . yet i have

> gotten notes home saying that

> was so hyper today " or something similar and

> they questioned as to whether he had gotten his meds

> or not,,,,Blah!!!!

>

> d corbin <jdcorbin_2000@...> wrote:

> My daughter does this too. I feel in her case it

> is

> partially that her meds are totally kicked in at

> school but I also think they are able to respond and

> behave as they have observed is correct for short

> periods of time if they are not unduly stressed.

> After

> all, these kids are not unintelligent. They do not

> have the understanding of why one acts a certain way

> in a certain situation, but they can observe that

> others do and try to " act normal " . Also they feel

> safer around their homes/families so they are more

> expressive (for them anyway). These are just my

> opinions but Elissa does this too and has since she

> was old enough to pay attention to these types of

> things, she sometimes forgets herself but ABSOLUTELY

> NEVER around drs, psychologists, psychiatrists etc,

> she sees them as an enemy no matter how it is

> presented to her.

>

> Good luck and God Bless.

> Dee

>

> --- Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...>

> wrote:

>

> > There are some things that does here at

> home

> > and around family that he hasn't done, or no one

> has

> > told me he does at school. For instance, he flaps

> > his hands a lot when he's really excited about

> > things. He walks on his toes sometimes, not all

> that

> > often. He has aggresive behaviour, but at school

> > they say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory

> > issues at home but doesn't seem to have them at

> > school. At the eval for the PPCD program, they put

> > on there that seperated from mother without

> > any problems, but yet when I'm dropping him off at

> > school it's like a huge ordeal complete with

> > screaming, crying, and clutching onto me for dear

> > life like I'm never coming back. They also put on

> > there that mother reported child shakes head and

> > flaps hands but neither of these were observed

> > during the eval. So why is he doing these things

> at

> > home? I'm just wondering if anyone else has had

> any

> > simular experiences with their child or children.

> Is

> > this going to hinder my results with the child

> > study people? I'm so confused again guys.

> >

> >

> > Leighanne

> >

> >

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I just went through the same thing, I hope you have better result

then I did. The pychologist said that he did not show any of the

things that I mention in the testing. So now I am off for a second

oppionion. The school says the same thing that they haven't notice

anything other than that he is shy and doesn't seem to socialize

with the kids. Yet at home it's the same things day in and day out.

Tiara

>

> My son does much the same thing - apart from the crying - the

child

> psychologist and paediatrician both said it is normal. Often it

is because

> they try harder to be 'normal' at school, etc, then they 'recover'

at home.

> I know I put a lot less effort into being normal when I am around

people I

> trust - almost none at all when I am alone . If the people

doing the

> evaluation are familiar with ADHD or ASD kids they will pay

attention to

> what you say about how he is at home.

>

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: Leighanne Ratliff

> Date: 02/15/06 16:13:49

>

> There are some things that does here at home and around

family that

> he hasn't done, or no one has told me he does at school. For

instance, he

> flaps his hands a lot when he's really excited about things. He

walks on his

> toes sometimes, not all that often. He has aggresive behaviour,

but at

> school they say he is a wonderful kid. He has sensory issues at

home but

> doesn't seem to have them at school. At the eval for the PPCD

program, they

> put on there that seperated from mother without any

problems, but yet

> when I'm dropping him off at school it's like a huge ordeal

complete with

> screaming, crying, and clutching onto me for dear life like I'm

never coming

> back. They also put on there that mother reported child shakes

head and

> flaps hands but neither of these were observed during the eval. So

why is he

> doing these things at home? I'm just wondering if anyone else has

had any

> simular experiences with their child or children. Is this going to

hinder my

> results with the child study people? I'm so confused again guys.

>

>

> Leighanne

>