Re: Asperger Teen Interventions?

[Guest guest]

Yeah, we unschool our aspie teen. He is very happy with this method of

schooling. See book: The teenage liberation handbook.

I wouldn't send any child to a boot camp....never...

[Guest guest]

, we aren't considering a wilderness program, but *are*

considering a program called The Learning Clinic in Connecticut as a

bridge between high school and college. They also have elementary and

high school programs. For the college aged kids, they focus on

developing independence - they all have jobs, go to college, learn to

balance a checkbook, cook nutritious meals, and generally take care of

themselves. They have psychiatrists and therapists on staff. Student

IQs range from approximately 90 to 140, so they're a little higher than

some of the other programs around. Here's the url if anyone's

interested: www.thelearningclinic.org/ We're going to visit this

place and a couple of colleges in a week or two. Hope this is helpful.

Liz

On Apr 2, 2006, at 8:37 AM, TERESA PARKER wrote:

> I need to ask if any one out there has an older Aspie teen who because

> of the inappropriate treatment from school staff through the years and

> having gone through all the fights to try to get his right to be

> educated has become depressed, frustrated, lost self-esteem and has

> become very angry?

> I would like to know if any of you have had to place you kid into any

> type of intervention program for teen's headed for trouble. And what

> was the outcome? I am not talking about counseling. We have been doing

> this. I am talking about boot camp style or wilderness camp types of

> programs?

>

> Thanks for any info you can give me.

>

>

> TERESA PARKER

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[Guest guest]

I am not sure how much a boot camp style program will help.. I am afraid it

would hurt just as the other programs have.. Unfortunately specialists in

aspergers are hard to find.

What about a daily thing.. Like Cadets ( we have that here in Canada.. Not

sure about the USA..) or another type of life skills team building

experience.. Like the older boy scout type thing?

It sounds like you are afraid your teen will be on the other side of the law

soon.. Is this part of the issue too for you?

I don't have an older aspie teen.. My child is younger.. Who is on the

spectrum.. But his sister is 15 and.. I am right there with you on the teen

issue.

We also have Katimavick.. Which is a teen type of thing that does what

habitat for humanity does . But for communities. A great self esteem

builder.

What state are you in?? Maybe I can do some searches for you?

-- ( ) Asperger Teen Interventions?

I need to ask if any one out there has an older Aspie teen who because of

the inappropriate treatment from school staff through the years and having

gone through all the fights to try to get his right to be educated has

become depressed, frustrated, lost self-esteem and has become very angry?

I would like to know if any of you have had to place you kid into any type

of intervention program for teen's headed for trouble. And what was the

outcome? I am not talking about counseling. We have been doing this. I am

talking about boot camp style or wilderness camp types of programs?

Thanks for any info you can give me.

TERESA PARKER

tbone11758@...

EarthLink Revolves Around You.

[Guest guest]

,

I have a son now 19yrs. in college (mainstream) who was dx'ed AS when

he was 9yrs. I believe. We were alittle more fortunate, with our

schools (tho he was one of the very first with AS in his school). Yes

many a time I was at the schools, with issues not so much with

teachers as with kids (until he wouldn't allow me to help anymore).

We had extreme times with depression, suicide feelings, very low self

esteem problems, because he didn't feel he fitted in, now this wasn't

all the time, just periods thru the yrs.He was mainstreamed thru

school, so he came up against many issues with kids (they didn't know

he was AS). He didn't for along time realize he had many friends, and

social life, but he worked hard on this, because he wanted it. It

didn't come over night tho. We stayed in therphy until freshman yr.

and then couple of times after. Stayed on meds. thru high school,

anger issues great, BUT the one thing we were consistant with was

keeping him and us involved with his interests thru the yrs. first

was karate, then flying airplanes (self taught), then learning to

build and fly remote airplanes, found a club with many adults in it,

then teaching him to drive (then he thought he was Andrei?), of

course his interest, as most boys in teens, was cars. Working on them

with his buddies, learning from other fathers about cars, because my

husband doesn't know that much about them, BUT he stayed involved

with our son learning about them.

Placing your son in a boot camp or the likes won't help a child with

AS (or young adult), it can have the opposite effects, and bring out

more anger...find his interests, be involved (which you probably

are), find the clubs, groups in your area.

At one point our son wanted to hunt (we are fishing people know

nothing about guns). We signed him up for gun lessons, and took him

to the gun ranges so he could shoot his gun. He used pellet guns in

the woods around our house.

As far as therapy sessions I would keep him in them. If his therapy

sessions aren't working find another therapist. We went thru many

before we found one, that would go to the store with him buy rockets,

come back to the session, and they would be out in the parking lot

firing off the rockets, and figuring where they would land...we were

blessed this Dr. was a ex pilot......we went all the way to Mayo

Clinic couldn't find anyone there that knew anything about AS...so

yes you have to shop around abit, but if you want to save your son,

then it's worth it.

I hope many on the this messageboard can help with your questions,

and frustrations. They are a pretty good bunch of Moms and Dads here,

with different levels of AS children.

God Bless

Connie T.

>

> I need to ask if any one out there has an older Aspie teen who

because of the inappropriate treatment from school staff through the

years and having gone through all the fights to try to get his right

to be educated has become depressed, frustrated, lost self-esteem and

has become very angry?

> I would like to know if any of you have had to place you kid into

any type of intervention program for teen's headed for trouble. And

what was the outcome? I am not talking about counseling. We have been

doing this. I am talking about boot camp style or wilderness camp

types of programs?

>

> Thanks for any info you can give me.

>

>

> TERESA PARKER

> tbone11758@...

> EarthLink Revolves Around You.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My organization aspires to have an " outward bound " type progam for

AS teens someday. Until we do, I think this is your best bet for

finding that type of program:

http://www.focusas.com/OutdoorEducation.html

Please let us know what you find out. Your instinct that you need to

go beyond therapy is a good one, but I also agree with the other

responders about the importance of therapy. Remember that

adolescence is a disastrous time for many neurotypical children, and

therapy during this period often doesn't have easily visible

rewards, but that doesn't mean it isn't helping.

Good luck to you and your son,

Mayshar

http://www.aspergersociety.com

jmayshar@...

>

> I need to ask if any one out there has an older Aspie teen who

because of the inappropriate treatment from school staff through the

years and having gone through all the fights to try to get his right

to be educated has become depressed, frustrated, lost self-esteem

and has become very angry?

> I would like to know if any of you have had to place you kid into

any type of intervention program for teen's headed for trouble. And

what was the outcome? I am not talking about counseling. We have

been doing this. I am talking about boot camp style or wilderness

camp types of programs?

>

> Thanks for any info you can give me.

>

>

> TERESA PARKER

> tbone11758@...

> EarthLink Revolves Around You.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Subject: ( ) Asperger Teen Interventions?

I need to ask if any one out there has an older Aspie teen who because of

the inappropriate treatment from school staff through the years and having

gone through all the fights to try to get his right to be educated has

become depressed, frustrated, lost self-esteem and has become very angry?

I would like to know if any of you have had to place you kid into any type

of intervention program for teen's headed for trouble. And what was the

outcome? I am not talking about counseling. We have been doing this. I am

talking about boot camp style or wilderness camp types of programs?

Thanks for any info you can give me.

TERESA PARKER

It might be a better idea to find a better learning program for him - get

him out of the school environment where he fails all the time and into a

place where he learns and that is a positive experience. I know my ds could

never make it in a boot camp style place. But everyone is different.

Roxanna

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My name is also. Yes, my teenage girl has had the problem a couple of

times. Including the fact she was never properly diagnosed all the way through

school.

At 12 she ran into problems, she was attending a parochial school. It turns

out at that time she was also severely anemic, but I was even forbidden to take

her out of school to take her to the doctor. Consequently she got really bad

before she finally got help.

When I moved her to the public school I never mentioned to them the problems

she was having. All the way through 8th, 9th and 10th grades she had no problems

with her teachers. She went completely off her meds for depression and ADD and

no one could tell the difference except for me. I could tell she was actually

better off than before.

During her 11th grade she had surgery in the spring. That seemed to start all

the symptoms again. Or perhaps it was because I pushed her to join the choir. In

any case she started in again about not wanting to be in school. She didn't get

to go on the choir trip. She got severely depressed and still is.

She finished high school by attending the alternative high school. That is

what our schools in Cedar Rapids, IA have in answer to the no child left behind

act. She attended two classes at a time. One class was independent study and the

other was a classroom. She blossomed. It didn't cure the depression but she

finished high school and is now interested in attending the local community

college.

I don't know if this answers your question as to what you should do, but it is

what we did.

Girard

Subject: ( ) Asperger Teen Interventions?

I need to ask if any one out there has an older Aspie teen who because of

the inappropriate treatment from school staff through the years and having

gone through all the fights to try to get his right to be educated has

become depressed, frustrated, lost self-esteem and has become very angry?

I would like to know if any of you have had to place you kid into any type

of intervention program for teen's headed for trouble. And what was the

outcome? I am not talking about counseling. We have been doing this. I am

talking about boot camp style or wilderness camp types of programs?

Thanks for any info you can give me.

TERESA PARKER

[Guest guest]

One of my 17 yo old twins with aspergers was very aggressive towards me

and his twin.He also suffers from depression which I *think* I read

somewhere (correct me if I'm wrong) comes out as aggression/anger in

teens. someone whose sister is a doctor and her son has aggression

problems and tremendous meltdowns suggested risperdall. My son has only

been on it a since 28th of March and he is either going through one of

his good phases or the meds have helped. The dr put him on .25 mg 3

times a day. Which he says is a baby dose. I have SERIOUSLY thought

about a wilderness camp but I figured since he only goes outside to get

in the car that it may place alot more stress on him. He is not athletic

at all. I wish I did have some answers I could certainly use some

myself! Well, back to the rollercoaster ride that has become my life... Toni

jmayshar wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> My organization aspires to have an " outward bound " type progam for

> AS teens someday. Until we do, I think this is your best bet for

> finding that type of program:

>

> http://www.focusas.com/OutdoorEducation.html

>

> Please let us know what you find out. Your instinct that you need to

> go beyond therapy is a good one, but I also agree with the other

> responders about the importance of therapy. Remember that

> adolescence is a disastrous time for many neurotypical children, and

> therapy during this period often doesn't have easily visible

> rewards, but that doesn't mean it isn't helping.

>

> Good luck to you and your son,

>

> Mayshar

> http://www.aspergersociety.com

> jmayshar@...

>

>

>

> >

> > I need to ask if any one out there has an older Aspie teen who

> because of the inappropriate treatment from school staff through the

> years and having gone through all the fights to try to get his right

> to be educated has become depressed, frustrated, lost self-esteem

> and has become very angry?

> > I would like to know if any of you have had to place you kid into

> any type of intervention program for teen's headed for trouble. And

> what was the outcome? I am not talking about counseling. We have

> been doing this. I am talking about boot camp style or wilderness

> camp types of programs?

> >

> > Thanks for any info you can give me.

> >

> >

> > TERESA PARKER

> > tbone11758@...

> > EarthLink Revolves Around You.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I know of a place where I sent my AS child (12 at that time). No special

physical activities, just regular. Combination of education and therapy. 13

months

there helped a lot. Today she is 15, a very bright AS going to regular HS. I

see she is happy, with ups and downs but the progress during this last year

has been incredible. The school she is at is wonderful (teachers and students

included). I keep praying everyday. I know the road will never finish.

[Guest guest]

do you mind telling us about it? What ages do they take? Thanks, Toni

ACuitino@... wrote:

> I know of a place where I sent my AS child (12 at that time). No special

> physical activities, just regular. Combination of education and

> therapy. 13 months

> there helped a lot. Today she is 15, a very bright AS going to regular

> HS. I

> see she is happy, with ups and downs but the progress during this last

> year

> has been incredible. The school she is at is wonderful (teachers and

> students

> included). I keep praying everyday. I know the road will never finish.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WHAT AN AWESOME SITE!! ( snuck a peek johnathon..; are you an aspie too??

Do you do mentoring?? I have sent this info off to friends of mine in the

area.. I am in Canada )

-- ( ) Re: Asperger Teen Interventions?

Hi ,

My organization aspires to have an " outward bound " type progam for

AS teens someday. Until we do, I think this is your best bet for

finding that type of program:

http://www.focusas.com/OutdoorEducation.html

Please let us know what you find out. Your instinct that you need to

go beyond therapy is a good one, but I also agree with the other

responders about the importance of therapy. Remember that

adolescence is a disastrous time for many neurotypical children, and

therapy during this period often doesn't have easily visible

rewards, but that doesn't mean it isn't helping.

Good luck to you and your son,

Mayshar

http://www.aspergersociety.com

jmayshar@...

>

> I need to ask if any one out there has an older Aspie teen who

because of the inappropriate treatment from school staff through the

years and having gone through all the fights to try to get his right

to be educated has become depressed, frustrated, lost self-esteem

and has become very angry?

> I would like to know if any of you have had to place you kid into

any type of intervention program for teen's headed for trouble. And

what was the outcome? I am not talking about counseling. We have

been doing this. I am talking about boot camp style or wilderness

camp types of programs?

>

> Thanks for any info you can give me.

>

>

> TERESA PARKER

> tbone11758@...

> EarthLink Revolves Around You.

>

>