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O.K. Kathy, you' re hired to give a seminar to all of our children on why it is a waste of time to do all these little tricks to fool mom over the toothbrushing battle. I just can't believe YOU did all this as a child. You are being paid back now. But what about those of us who just brushed our teeth as kids????? I don't even remember disliking it. So what did I do to deserve these daily battles????

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:-)) My mom used to do this, and check the toothpaste tube for squeeze

marks, which she would smooth out for the next go round. Of course we kids

quickly learned to wet our brushes and squeeze the tube before coming out of

the bathroom claiming to have brushed. My younger sister even put a dab of

toothpaste on her tongue so she'd *smell* like she'd just brushed. We went

to a lot of effort to fake toothbrushing, it probably would have been

quicker just to go ahead and do it, but this logic was lost on us back then

:-) No, none of us had any disorders to interfere with brushing our teeth,

we just didn't wanna bother.

Kathy R. in Indiana

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> One thing that has worked in the past is to use a sticker chart to

keep

> track of when she brushes and then allow her to trade in a preset amount

of

> stickers for a tangible reward. Of course, I conduct " surprise "

inspection

> of both teeth and toothbrush to keep things honest.

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Kathy -- shame on you for tricking your parents!!!! hehehehehe (big smile)

Tamra

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> :-)) My mom used to do this, and check the toothpaste tube for squeeze

> marks, which she would smooth out for the next go round. Of course we

kids

> quickly learned to wet our brushes and squeeze the tube before coming out

of

> the bathroom claiming to have brushed. My younger sister even put a dab

of

> toothpaste on her tongue so she'd *smell* like she'd just brushed. We

went

> to a lot of effort to fake toothbrushing, it probably would have been

> quicker just to go ahead and do it, but this logic was lost on us back

then

> :-) No, none of us had any disorders to interfere with brushing our

teeth,

> we just didn't wanna bother.

>

> Kathy R. in Indiana

>

> ----- Original Message -----

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> > One thing that has worked in the past is to use a sticker chart to

> keep

> > track of when she brushes and then allow her to trade in a preset amount

> of

> > stickers for a tangible reward. Of course, I conduct " surprise "

> inspection

> > of both teeth and toothbrush to keep things honest.

>

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In a message dated 1/14/02 9:35:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,

p_houser37@... writes:

> Sometimes we hold her down and brush them. Which is not easy as you all know

> I'm sure. Any suggestions?? That I haven't tried yet??

>

>

It took, no kidding, years to get Rochelle to tolerate brushing. I use to lay

her down on her back. Straddle her so she wouldn't kick me away and hold arms

down till brushing was done. We still brush her teeth but no more kicking. We

also count each side to 10 and front/back to 10. Then stroke the inside

cheeks and tongue 3x. Then we let her do it hand over hand 3x each side.

Done! Much easier now. It's just like giving medicine until they know you

won't give up.

I use very little toothpaste since she can't spit in sink yet. (1/2 a pea)

We do this everynight but need to start morning routine now that she is in

Kindergarten. Her teeth look good so far but I think heredity has a lot to do

with teeth. Keep trying.

Diane {{{hugs}}}

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In a message dated 1/14/02 9:35:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,

p_houser37@... writes:

> absolutely refuses to brush her teeth or let anyone else do it! Her

> teeth are starting to look bad. Sometimes we hold her down and brush them.

> Which is not easy as you all know I'm sure. Any suggestions?? That I

> haven't tried yet??

Pam,

I make a game of it. I make funny sounds after one quick swoop and roll

backwards giggling. It takes longer that way, but she lets me do it, AND

she's not stressed before school or bed. I don't have to make that big

of a deal out of it as I used to, but we still have to make it fun!!

Does like Barney, or Blues Clues, or some other critter that you can

put glasses on?? We don't have to do glasses with Maddie, so I'm afraid

that's all I can offer. Good luck!!

Donna

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In a message dated 1/14/02 12:32:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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> I use very little toothpaste since she can't spit in sink yet. (1/2 a pea)

>

Me too Diane. The ped had told me this a real long time ago...back when my

almost 21 yo was a baby. Saying that up until kids are fully able to swirl

and spit, you should use very minimal amount because ingested toothpaste is

bad for the tummy!!

Donna

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In a message dated 1/14/02 12:50:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rickvargas1@... writes:

> OH I'm brushing my teeth on

> the bottom, cause I wouldn't want to think that I forgot them

LOLOL Sandy. Yep, and *While I'm brushing my teeth and having so much fun, I

never let the water run, NO, I never let the water run*....LOLOL BTW, we

also brush Barney's teeth. Maddie thinks that just a hoot!!!!

Donna

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Yep , its a sensitivity issue , this one you have to start slowly

introducing it as she does not want anything to do with it . Reading

or showing a picture story of brushing teeth , have a step by step of

pictures where she is to have teeth brushed . There might be an

example of it on our bookmark or files , if not someone would be glad

to share one with you . If she does not mind holding her own

tootbrush and slowly place your hand to help guide the main areas to

be brushed . If she throws a fit , stop . Try again after meal time ,

just to get the hang of it . is doing good with an electric

tootbrush , he likes the feel of the vibration . This was also an

issue , the same for wearing glasses . When the outburst happens ,

just stop and let them cool down and keep trying and reward or praise

when even if its for 5 minutes , they'll understand it as a routine &

how important the purpose of it . This was part of my journey with

. I know we all deal with this is issue .

Irma, 13,DS/ASD

>

> Hi all,

>

> I know you ahve probably talked about this before. I have brought

up this issue before on my Multiples- DS group. I am still open to

new ideas.

>

> absolutely refuses to brush her teeth or let anyone else do

it! Her teeth are starting to look bad. Sometimes we hold her down

and brush them. Which is not easy as you all know I'm sure. Any

suggestions?? That I haven't tried yet??

>

> We have the same problem with her wearing her glasses as well.

>

> Thanks so much.

>

> Pam mom to Hannah DS and DS and possible ASD age 6

>

>

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Sometimes we hold her down and brush them. Which is not easy as you all

know

> > I'm sure. Any suggestions?? That I haven't tried yet??

> >

I'm sure you all think I'm nuts by now with as many times that i talk about

Barney but what I do w Gabby is sing her that brushing song. Do you know the

one I'm thinking about? Goes something like.... " OH I'm brushing my teeth on

the bottom, cause I wouldn't want to think that I forgot them "

I'm such a nerd, this I know :-) But I suppose this would only work if your

child likes Barney.

Sandy

mom to Gabby (5, ds-asd) and Adam (2)

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In a message dated 1/14/02 12:50:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rickvargas1@... writes:

> OH I'm brushing my teeth on

> the bottom, cause I wouldn't want to think that I forgot them "

>

> I'm such a nerd, this I know :-) But I suppose this would only work if your

> child likes Barney.

>

> Sandy

>

As soon as I read the words I was singing it to myself. Now, to get that

Barney song out of my head. There is a Raffi song about brushing too. " Wake

up in the morning and it's quarter to two. You want to find something to do.

You brush your teeth chchchchchch You brush your teeth chchchchchchch.

Diane (mom to a Barney addicted daughter Rochelle)

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sorry I don't know any techniques to get kids to brush

their teeth. Besides telling them, and showing them

pecs pictures of brushing their teeth.

>

> > OH I'm brushing my teeth on

> > the bottom, cause I wouldn't want to think that I

> forgot them

>

> LOLOL Sandy. Yep, and *While I'm brushing my teeth

> and having so much fun, I

> never let the water run, NO, I never let the water

> run*....LOLOL BTW, we

> also brush Barney's teeth. Maddie thinks that just

> a hoot!!!!

> Donna

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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another thing, they have the cool toothbrushes now in

shape of cars, barbies, etc. to make toothbrushes look

cooler to children in order for them to make it a

habit to brush their teeth.

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Hulda recommends keeping your toothbrush steralized,and doing a

collodial silver rinse.Collodial Silver is said to kill 650 different kinds

of bacteria,viruses, ect. I know quite a few people who swear by the stuff.

>From: Trudy Newman <tnewman@...>

>Reply-

> " " < >

>Subject: [ ] Brushing Teeth

>Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 10:59:25 -0700

>

>Hi everyone,

>

>When talking to this lady who informed me about the importance of

>washing veggies, she also told me that when I brush my teeth I should

>only use distilled or reverse osmosis water. Again, I just use tap

>water. She said that if you just use tap water you would be brushing

>bacteria up into your gums. What are you people doing?

>

>Kind regards,

>Trudy

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

Thanks for sharing this tip! I didn't realize that I was to sterilize

my toothbrush. What does Hulda recommend to use?

Kind regards,

Trudy

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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:38:03 -0500

From: " Parks " <kickseywinsey@...>

Subject: Re: Brushing Teeth

Hulda recommends keeping your toothbrush steralized,and doing a

collodial silver rinse.Collodial Silver is said to kill 650 different

kinds of bacteria,viruses, ect. I know quite a few people who swear by

the stuff.

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Hi Trudy, Hulda says to start with a fresh brush,and keep it in dental

bleach,collodial silver or salt water when not in use.Once I thought about

it it really makes sense for everyone to do this. Since so much is airborne

leaving your toothbrush out in the open seems to me that it would catch

everything in contact with it. Gross!!

>From: Trudy Newman <tnewman@...>

>Reply-

> " " < >

>Subject: [ ] Re: Brushing Teeth

>Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 22:42:44 -0700

>

>Hi ,

>

>Thanks for sharing this tip! I didn't realize that I was to sterilize

>my toothbrush. What does Hulda recommend to use?

>

>Kind regards,

>Trudy

>

>Message: 5

> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:38:03 -0500

> From: " Parks " <kickseywinsey@...>

>Subject: Re: Brushing Teeth

>

>Hulda recommends keeping your toothbrush steralized,and doing a

>collodial silver rinse.Collodial Silver is said to kill 650 different

>kinds of bacteria,viruses, ect. I know quite a few people who swear by

>the stuff.

>

>

>

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Hi ,

I was hoping you would get back to me on this, as I usually just put

my tooth brush in a plastic container after use. On another list that

I am on they recommended storing your tooth brush in hydrogen peroxide

when not in use. What do you think of that?

Kind regards,

Trudy

From: " Parks " <kickseywinsey@h...>

Date: Tue Mar 12, 2002 9:52 am

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Brushing Teeth

Hi Trudy, Hulda says to start with a fresh brush,and keep it in dental

bleach, collodial silver or salt water when not in use. Once I

thought about it it really makes sense for

everyone to do this. Since so much is airborne leaving your toothbrush

out in the open seems to me that it would catch everything in contact

with it. Gross!!

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Yes, I think anything that would kill bacteria and germs would be fine.Just

make sure you keep your plastic container sterile.

>From: Trudy Newman <tnewman@...>

>Reply-

> " " < >

>Subject: [ ] Re: Brushing Teeth

>Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:54:05 -0700

>

>Hi ,

>

>I was hoping you would get back to me on this, as I usually just put

>my tooth brush in a plastic container after use. On another list that

>I am on they recommended storing your tooth brush in hydrogen peroxide

>when not in use. What do you think of that?

>

>Kind regards,

>Trudy

>

>From: " Parks " <kickseywinsey@h...>

>Date: Tue Mar 12, 2002 9:52 am

>Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Brushing Teeth

>

>Hi Trudy, Hulda says to start with a fresh brush,and keep it in dental

>bleach, collodial silver or salt water when not in use. Once I

>thought about it it really makes sense for

>everyone to do this. Since so much is airborne leaving your toothbrush

>out in the open seems to me that it would catch everything in contact

>with it.

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Does he like any of the flavored toothpastes? My younger son will only use

Crest Sparkle Fun flavor. Oral stimulation before brushing might help, like

chewing gum or eating something crunchy. We also used to use a little hard

plastic device that my son could chew on before brushing. I'm forgetting

exactly what it was called. It was made by Nuk. Also a small timer (like the

ones used in board games) might work as an incentive for him. He can " see " how

much time he needs to brush. My younger son is very similar to your son in

that he has to have me interact with him in order for him to complete

brushing. I usually say " 10 brushes on the top front, bottom front, back-top

and

bottom, tongue and then repeat " ...I know exactly what you are going through.

Pam :)

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Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get my 6 year old to brush his

teeth. He throws a tantrum if I even mention brushing his teeth. When

he was younger I had to hold him to brush his teeth. Now he's stronger

and I just don't want to wrestle with him. He will let me brush his

teeth with a washcloth & only water. He doesn't like the taste or the

smell of toothpaste and I've tried even the children's toothpaste. I

know he doesn't like the feel of the toothbrush bristles on his teeth

neither. When I do (wash his teeth) he will only co-operate if I count

to 10. After I reach 10 he's done.

Any suggestions?

Vonita

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The only thing that worked after holding him down when he was younger-

which was awful- but- we had to brush...I hated doing that- but

sometimes- you have to get in there and clean the teeth...

We did not use toothpaste for the longest time- but- eventually- the

drs and the dentist said it was time for just a teeeeeeeeeeensy

ineeeeeeesy bit- and now we use the electric toothbrush daily with

toothpaste- jeremy is 9 now- and it took a long long long time.

The oral motor difficulties are so so so hard!!! I do know what you

are going thru...electric toothbrush of favorite character- then

eventually toothpaste- just a tiny tiny tiny amount...I have found

baby steps work the best around here- and at school. School also works

on these particular things too- which helps.

Good luck!!!!

Gail

> >

> > Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get my 6 year old to brush

> his

> > teeth.

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My daughter bought my grandson a toothbrush that you push on the end

and it flashes for one minute. I get to brush his teeth until the

light quits flashing. Conner is very number aware, so we usually

brush his teeth on all sides(top and bottom) and in front 10 times

each. It helps when I count. I use a tiny amount of tooth paste

because he doesn't like the flavor either. He is also a picky

eater. He used to eat everything when he was vewry young but eats

less and less. Now he has picked up eating a couple of new foods.

catchup helps. He will eat a couple of more things now if you give

him catchup.

At school he often only eats a doughnut for breakfast and bread and

butter and milk for lunch. He eats more when he gets home.

Grandma Anne

>

> Does he like any of the flavored toothpastes? My younger son will

only use

> Crest Sparkle Fun flavor. Oral stimulation before brushing might

help, like

> chewing gum or eating something crunchy. We also used to use a

little hard

> plastic device that my son could chew on before brushing. I'm

forgetting

> exactly what it was called. It was made by Nuk. Also a small

timer (like the

> ones used in board games) might work as an incentive for him. He

can " see " how

> much time he needs to brush. My younger son is very similar to

your son in

> that he has to have me interact with him in order for him to

complete

> brushing. I usually say " 10 brushes on the top front, bottom

front, back-top and

> bottom, tongue and then repeat " ...I know exactly what you are

going through.

> Pam :)

>

>

>

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Neither of my boys is very big on brushing teeth. When I do get them to do

it I find that if I brush my teeth with them they are much more apt to brush

them too. Lucky for me they just had a dentist appointment in December and

they both had no cavities.

Mommy to - 9 - Aspie

- 8 - ADHD

Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get my 6 year old to brush his

teeth. He throws a tantrum if I even mention brushing his teeth. When

he was younger I had to hold him to brush his teeth. Now he's stronger

and I just don't want to wrestle with him. He will let me brush his

teeth with a washcloth & only water. He doesn't like the taste or the

smell of toothpaste and I've tried even the children's toothpaste. I

know he doesn't like the feel of the toothbrush bristles on his teeth

neither. When I do (wash his teeth) he will only co-operate if I count

to 10. After I reach 10 he's done.

Any suggestions?

Vonita

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Tunes playing tooth brushes, patients, and showing them the consequences of NOT brushing; my six year old just has aspergers (not depression and all the other stuff my 14 year old has) so he is the type that once it is a routine and pattern, he does it----so, he will try to make everyone else brush 'cuz all the teeth look gross, rot, fall out, etc.; the 14 year old still won't brush his regularly----we don't even ask the six year old---so, I would TRY pictures and explain and show (since soooo young) why soooo important to brush......and the tune and electric toothbrushes are great---buying new toothbrushes often works great, too---they love new ones for sure----who does not---whatever will work, do it---(my motto)-----Ruthie Dolezal

From: debkrush@...Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:46:12 +0000Subject: ( ) Brushing Teeth

Does anyone have any advice/tips?The child is 4 yrs old.Thanks, Debby.

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I recently read Born on a Blue Day written by Tammet (an adult with aspergers.) He talks about being a child and hating to brush his teeth because the individual bristles made a scratching noise in his brain. He could not control them individually and refused to brush until his parents introduced an electric toothbrush. The humming is consistent in his mouth, which translates to the same in his skull and jaw, which was both soothing and expected for him because all the bristles worked together.

We switched about a year ago to electric and I hold his chin gently and work in "sessions." Occasionally he will only tolerate 1 or 2 sessions but usually we can brush his whole mouth in 6.

Good Luck Katy

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Does anyone have any advice/tips?

The child is 4 yrs old.

Thanks,

Debby.

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