Re: My son doesn't want to go to school

[Guest guest]

Has the school done a functional behavioral assessment? Does your son have

a sensory diet at school (breaks in his day)? Does he have any assistance in

the classroom? Pam

[Guest guest]

Here is an article about Functional Behavior Assessments. When a student's

behavior becomes hard to handle, an assessment needs to be conducted to

figure out why the behaviors are happening and how best to handle them in the

classroom. Does your son have an IEP? Has he been assessed by an occupational

therapist?

_slaw - Functional Behavioral Assessments: What? Why? How? Who? by

Starin, Ph.D._ (http://www.wrightslaw.com/info/discipl.fab.starin.htm)

[Guest guest]

Does he have an IEP? Regardless, you need to call a PPT. Request one in

writing.--

---- vonitabjn <vonita4@...> wrote:

[Guest guest]

I don't know what a functional behavioral assessment is actually. The

teachers, principal & I have met on several occassions to discuss his

behavior and what we can do to modify it. He doesn't have a sensory

diet. He doesn't have assistance in the classroom.

>

> Has the school done a functional behavioral assessment? Does your

son have

> a sensory diet at school (breaks in his day)? Does he have any

assistance in

> the classroom? Pam

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Vonita,

It's so nice to see that you and your husband are

united! Who ever diagnosed your son with Aspergers,

possibly a psychologist, neurologist...could be

consulted for advice. Depending on how far back your

son was evaluated your insurance may cover for a

thorough evalation to rule-out any co-existing

disorders. These psychologists are trained and have

access to multiple measurement tools and scales to

help identify other disorders. They can administer

tests that determine your child's strengths and

weaknesses, learning stlyes, social deficits,

cognitive deficits, you name it. Also, you may ask

the school if a Functional Behavioral assessment has

been done on your child. My 8 y.o. used to get under

the table, hide in the school closet, etc...many times

he did this when he had sensory overload (very common

occurrence among our children who are struggling to

adjust to their academic environment and the multiple

demands that are placed on them)!

Hardly any play time for our little ones, its work,

work, work!!

If you want to know all about Functional Behavioral

Assessments, just type it in the search web box. There

are many web sites to pick from. You will be amazed

at how you, along with the school team, can narrow the

" causes " of these behaviors down, ie...triggers that

cause your child to behave, react, respond the way he

does. Pinpointing is what these Functional

assessments do...Sometimes someone else is observing

the child in the classroom besides the teacher.

Interventions (believe me there are tons of simple,

yet creative interventions) that can be used at school

to help your child function optimally in a regular

classroom setting (of course their are the

exceptions). Many times there are school personnel

who drag their feet when it comes to trying new

innovative approaches, there is a very good likelihood

that many of our children's teachers don't even bother

to learn about Aspergers.

Mornings will unlikely improve much unless he has a

change in attitude about going to school. Riding the

bus for my son was horrible because the diesel smell

made him sick and the noise of the kids bothered him.

As a privledge we pick him up from school. Also,

sometimes schools will make special arrangements to

have a small van provide transportation for your

child.

I hope some of this is helpful.

S.

--- vonitabjn <vonita4@...> wrote:

> I have a 6 year old who has Aspergers. Since

> November of last year,

> he hasn't wanted to go to school. He's had behavior

> problems in

> school. He's the only child in his class with Autism

> so the other

> children do know that he's different. I've been

> communicating with

> the teachers as to modify his behavior within the

> class. He's taken

> his shoes off in class, thrown his pencils on the

> floor, refuse to do

> his work. He goes to the principal's office at least

> 3 times a week.

> I'm at my wit's end. We've modified his behavioral

> class. He does

> spend more time outside of the classroom now. I

> haven't had the daily

> complaints from school in about 3 weeks. That's a

> blessing because I

> was getting really frustrated at the discipline

> referrals that were

> coming home. His teachers can't pinpoint why he

> behaves that way. I'm

> having a difficult time trying to understand why his

> behavior has

> taken a turn for the worse within the past 2 months.

> There hasn't

> been any dramatic changes in his routine, that I'm

> aware of. My only

> issue now is that he cries whenever he has to go to

> school in the

> morning. It breaks my heart to leave him. Now I do

> drive him to

> school daily because he does not want to ride his

> school bus. He

> didn't mind riding the bus until about 2 weeks ago.

> Now he cries

> whenever I drop him off at his bus stop. He does

> ride the bus with

> his older brother who's 13. Does anyone have any

> advice as to what I

> can do to make the mornings a little easier for us.

> Now my 3 year old

> is telling me that he doesn't want to go to school

> and he likes his

> school. He's just repeating what his brother says. I

> would like to

> homeschool but at the moment we need my income. My

> husband thinks

> that it will take at least 6 months before he will

> be secure in his

> job that will allow us to live off his salary. 6

> months seems like 6

> years. Any advice please?

>

>

> Thanks,

> Vonita

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Did you just join this list, Vonita? We JUST went through this!

My son was suspended last week due to escalating behavior

problems. He does want to go to school, but some days he

would have a problem from the moment he walked through the doors.

Unfortunately, it had to get as bad as it did before we came

up with a reasonable plan. I agree that behind every

behavior is a message.

Starting today, he has a " cool zone " where he can

go if he is sensory overloaded. It has a mini-tramp

in it. It has a desk and two chairs. He gets to school

right when the door opens and he is met and

taken to the cool zone to do sensory for 10 minutes.

He has a positive behavior intervention plan, with

the emphasis now being " positive. " We figured out

he had accumulated a heaping case of anxiety. Add that

to the sensory problems and you've got a meltdown brewing

at just about any time.

I bought the book _Asperger Syndrome and Difficult

Moments_ for the school and encouraged them to read it

over the weekend. It takes a lot of these Functional Behavior

Assessments and *really* looking for identifiable triggers.

The key is acknowledgment and then prevention.

His first day back on Friday was good. Today he said

he had a great day. We also added some meds to

the situation.

About six weeks ago, I started taking him to school

instead of riding the bus. He does take the bus home.

Email me privately if you want me to spew my story

at you....:-)

Jackie

jackie@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie,

That " cool Zone " is COOL. What a creative idea, and

the mini tramp is an awesome idea!

S.

--- Jackie Geipel <jackie@...> wrote:

>

> Did you just join this list, Vonita? We JUST went

> through this!

> My son was suspended last week due to escalating

> behavior

> problems. He does want to go to school, but some

> days he

> would have a problem from the moment he walked

> through the doors.

>

> Unfortunately, it had to get as bad as it did before

> we came

> up with a reasonable plan. I agree that behind

> every

> behavior is a message.

>

> Starting today, he has a " cool zone " where he can

> go if he is sensory overloaded. It has a

> mini-tramp

> in it. It has a desk and two chairs. He gets to

> school

> right when the door opens and he is met and

> taken to the cool zone to do sensory for 10 minutes.

> He has a positive behavior intervention plan, with

> the emphasis now being " positive. " We figured out

> he had accumulated a heaping case of anxiety. Add

> that

> to the sensory problems and you've got a meltdown

> brewing

> at just about any time.

>

> I bought the book _Asperger Syndrome and Difficult

> Moments_ for the school and encouraged them to read

> it

> over the weekend. It takes a lot of these

> Functional Behavior

> Assessments and *really* looking for identifiable

> triggers.

> The key is acknowledgment and then prevention.

>

> His first day back on Friday was good. Today he

> said

> he had a great day. We also added some meds to

> the situation.

>

> About six weeks ago, I started taking him to school

> instead of riding the bus. He does take the bus

> home.

>

> Email me privately if you want me to spew my story

> at you....:-)

>

> Jackie

> jackie@...

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Sherwood wrote:

> Hi Jackie,

>

> That " cool Zone " is COOL. What a creative idea, and

> the mini tramp is an awesome idea!

>

The funny thing is--the SLP already had the tramp in her closet at

school!

Basically, it came from me telling them he likes to be alone to calm

down and not

to be watched. They mentioned sensory breaks, which nearly made

me fall out of my chair. But it was " okay, this is what he does

at home. "

He can't do *that* at school, but how close can we come to it at school?

It's a matter of survival.

My older son is at the middle school. His resource teacher is just

for autism, emotional disabilities, and other mild disabilities.

They have a " Quiet Room " built within the resource

room. It's maybe 5' x 7' or so. There is a beanbag, there are

very limited decorations, a table and chair. There's some little

stuff. But it's for those times when the kids are just too overwhelmed

by everything going on. You can completely close the door and

turn off the lights. Some kids even take a little nap to calm

themselves

down. Or, they can go there to work very quietly on something.

It's not called a time out room or anything like that. Although

sometimes they can be sent there at the teacher's request. More

often, though,

the students can just give some sort of signal to any of their

teachers and

go there themselves.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

That sounds like a great idea. One teacher let me know that my son

doesn't co-operate when it's time to take a test or answer questions.

I let her know that he answer my questions at home. She proceeds to

tell me that he can read but he doesn't understand what he reads due

to his lack of answering the questions. He answers my questions at

home after he's read a story. I asked her if there was a lot of

background noise in the class, maybe he's too distracted. She says

that it's a school. " It's never quiet here " . What could I say, he's

easily distracted with background noise and the school is noisy all

day. Can a " quiet place " be requested in an IEP?

Vonita

Re: ( ) My son doesn't want to go to school

On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Sherwood wrote:

> Hi Jackie,

>

> That " cool Zone " is COOL. What a creative idea, and

> the mini tramp is an awesome idea!

>

The funny thing is--the SLP already had the tramp in her closet at

school!

Basically, it came from me telling them he likes to be alone to calm

down and not

to be watched. They mentioned sensory breaks, which nearly made

me fall out of my chair. But it was " okay, this is what he does

at home. "

He can't do *that* at school, but how close can we come to it at

school?

It's a matter of survival.

My older son is at the middle school. His resource teacher is just

for autism, emotional disabilities, and other mild disabilities.

They have a " Quiet Room " built within the resource

room. It's maybe 5' x 7' or so. There is a beanbag, there are

very limited decorations, a table and chair. There's some little

stuff. But it's for those times when the kids are just too

overwhelmed

by everything going on. You can completely close the door and

turn off the lights. Some kids even take a little nap to calm

themselves

down. Or, they can go there to work very quietly on something.

It's not called a time out room or anything like that. Although

sometimes they can be sent there at the teacher's request. More

often, though,

the students can just give some sort of signal to any of their

teachers and

go there themselves.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

You can request just about anything in an IEP... whatever will assist

your child. Has your son been tested for a Central Auditory

Processing Deficit (CAPD)? My son is unable to filter out background

noises so part of his IEP asks that his teachers use a FM headset

which allows their voices to be more pronounced over the rest of the

noises. A diagnois of CAPD can also open some additional doors for

funding... just a thought.

- Velvet (son, age 9)

>

> > Hi Jackie,

> >

> > That " cool Zone " is COOL. What a creative idea, and

> > the mini tramp is an awesome idea!

> >

>

> The funny thing is--the SLP already had the tramp in her closet at

> school!

> Basically, it came from me telling them he likes to be alone to

calm

> down and not

> to be watched. They mentioned sensory breaks, which nearly made

> me fall out of my chair. But it was " okay, this is what he

does

> at home. "

> He can't do *that* at school, but how close can we come to it at

> school?

> It's a matter of survival.

>

> My older son is at the middle school. His resource teacher is just

> for autism, emotional disabilities, and other mild disabilities.

> They have a " Quiet Room " built within the resource

> room. It's maybe 5' x 7' or so. There is a beanbag, there are

> very limited decorations, a table and chair. There's some little

> stuff. But it's for those times when the kids are just too

> overwhelmed

> by everything going on. You can completely close the door and

> turn off the lights. Some kids even take a little nap to calm

> themselves

> down. Or, they can go there to work very quietly on something.

>

> It's not called a time out room or anything like that. Although

> sometimes they can be sent there at the teacher's request. More

> often, though,

> the students can just give some sort of signal to any of their

> teachers and

> go there themselves.

>

> Jackie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

my son can't focus in class with alot of noise either. if you get an eip then

they will put him in a smaller classroom. my son is in a class of seven students

right now and he is in first grade doing second grade work and getting them all

right. so i would suggest an eip as soon as possible. also try giving your child

coffee. believe it or not our neurologist told us that it works well.if your

child isn't taking a stimulant already

vonitabjn <vonita4@...> wrote: That sounds like a great idea. One

teacher let me know that my son

doesn't co-operate when it's time to take a test or answer questions.

I let her know that he answer my questions at home. She proceeds to

tell me that he can read but he doesn't understand what he reads due

to his lack of answering the questions. He answers my questions at

home after he's read a story. I asked her if there was a lot of

background noise in the class, maybe he's too distracted. She says

that it's a school. " It's never quiet here " . What could I say, he's

easily distracted with background noise and the school is noisy all

day. Can a " quiet place " be requested in an IEP?

Vonita

Re: ( ) My son doesn't want to go to school

On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Sherwood wrote:

> Hi Jackie,

>

> That " cool Zone " is COOL. What a creative idea, and

> the mini tramp is an awesome idea!

>

The funny thing is--the SLP already had the tramp in her closet at

school!

Basically, it came from me telling them he likes to be alone to calm

down and not

to be watched. They mentioned sensory breaks, which nearly made

me fall out of my chair. But it was " okay, this is what he does

at home. "

He can't do *that* at school, but how close can we come to it at

school?

It's a matter of survival.

My older son is at the middle school. His resource teacher is just

for autism, emotional disabilities, and other mild disabilities.

They have a " Quiet Room " built within the resource

room. It's maybe 5' x 7' or so. There is a beanbag, there are

very limited decorations, a table and chair. There's some little

stuff. But it's for those times when the kids are just too

overwhelmed

by everything going on. You can completely close the door and

turn off the lights. Some kids even take a little nap to calm

themselves

down. Or, they can go there to work very quietly on something.

It's not called a time out room or anything like that. Although

sometimes they can be sent there at the teacher's request. More

often, though,

the students can just give some sort of signal to any of their

teachers and

go there themselves.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

I don't know where your son goes to school, but anything put into an IEP MUST

happen. My son took " breaks " whenever he was getting overstimulated.

Fortunately he had a quiet place to go to. He also had a one-on-one aid who

could see when he was getting overstimulated and get him to leave the classroom.

(In his school kids were always coming and going, so it wasn't too unusual). If

he needs " accomodations " for test taking, etc. those should be in the IEP.

Taking a test in a quiet place is a reasonable accomodation. By the way, my son

was included with the regular class pretty much all the time. He just went out

for special services (OT, speech) and when he needed breaks. Sometimes just

sending him on an errand to bring something to the office was enough - if he

went out before he got too overstimulated and overwhelmed!

Helena

shawna burns <shawnabrns@...> wrote:

my son can't focus in class with alot of noise either. if you get an eip then

they will put him in a smaller classroom. my son is in a class of seven students

right now and he is in first grade doing second grade work and getting them all

right. so i would suggest an eip as soon as possible. also try giving your child

coffee. believe it or not our neurologist told us that it works well.if your

child isn't taking a stimulant already

vonitabjn wrote: That sounds like a great idea. One teacher let me know that my

son

doesn't co-operate when it's time to take a test or answer questions.

I let her know that he answer my questions at home. She proceeds to

tell me that he can read but he doesn't understand what he reads due

to his lack of answering the questions. He answers my questions at

home after he's read a story. I asked her if there was a lot of

background noise in the class, maybe he's too distracted. She says

that it's a school. " It's never quiet here " . What could I say, he's

easily distracted with background noise and the school is noisy all

day. Can a " quiet place " be requested in an IEP?

Vonita

Re: ( ) My son doesn't want to go to school

On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Sherwood wrote:

> Hi Jackie,

>

> That " cool Zone " is COOL. What a creative idea, and

> the mini tramp is an awesome idea!

>

The funny thing is--the SLP already had the tramp in her closet at

school!

Basically, it came from me telling them he likes to be alone to calm

down and not

to be watched. They mentioned sensory breaks, which nearly made

me fall out of my chair. But it was " okay, this is what he does

at home. "

He can't do *that* at school, but how close can we come to it at

school?

It's a matter of survival.

My older son is at the middle school. His resource teacher is just

for autism, emotional disabilities, and other mild disabilities.

They have a " Quiet Room " built within the resource

room. It's maybe 5' x 7' or so. There is a beanbag, there are

very limited decorations, a table and chair. There's some little

stuff. But it's for those times when the kids are just too

overwhelmed

by everything going on. You can completely close the door and

turn off the lights. Some kids even take a little nap to calm

themselves

down. Or, they can go there to work very quietly on something.

It's not called a time out room or anything like that. Although

sometimes they can be sent there at the teacher's request. More

often, though,

the students can just give some sort of signal to any of their

teachers and

go there themselves.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

I can try the coffee, I don't know if it will work. My son has to smell

everything before he will eat or drink it. If he doesn't like the smell, he

won't put it in his mouth. He doesn't drink hot chocolate. Usually the IEP has

been changed due to the meetings called by the school. How can I request an IEP

meeting. Verbally or written?

Vonita

Re: ( ) My son doesn't want to go to school

On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Sherwood wrote:

> Hi Jackie,

>

> That " cool Zone " is COOL. What a creative idea, and

> the mini tramp is an awesome idea!

>

The funny thing is--the SLP already had the tramp in her closet at

school!

Basically, it came from me telling them he likes to be alone to calm

down and not

to be watched. They mentioned sensory breaks, which nearly made

me fall out of my chair. But it was " okay, this is what he does

at home. "

He can't do *that* at school, but how close can we come to it at

school?

It's a matter of survival.

My older son is at the middle school. His resource teacher is just

for autism, emotional disabilities, and other mild disabilities.

They have a " Quiet Room " built within the resource

room. It's maybe 5' x 7' or so. There is a beanbag, there are

very limited decorations, a table and chair. There's some little

stuff. But it's for those times when the kids are just too

overwhelmed

by everything going on. You can completely close the door and

turn off the lights. Some kids even take a little nap to calm

themselves

down. Or, they can go there to work very quietly on something.

It's not called a time out room or anything like that. Although

sometimes they can be sent there at the teacher's request. More

often, though,

the students can just give some sort of signal to any of their

teachers and

go there themselves.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/1/2006 11:13:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vonita4@... writes:

He does have an IEP in place at the moment. What process has to be done

in order for me to request changes to it? Usually the changes that have

occurred were requested by the school (teachers, principal & counselor).

You can request an IEP meeting anytime by informing the person who usually

handles that sort of thing - his sped teacher or the principal of the school.

If I request one verbally, I would write a follow up letter and send it in

to make sure they didn't forget.

Roxanna ô¿ô

Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.

[Guest guest]

we live in palm harbor florida. i think it all depends on the severity of the

child also. my son (kaydn) isn't finishing anything he starts because of the

noise and movements of other students. also he doesn't like for other kids to

look at him so a smaller classroom was perfect for him. another thing is that he

has both ADHD and aspergers so it is a double whammy on the focus and

concentration. at this point he gives me the answers to his work and i write it

for him if it is more than three words he needs to write becaue he can't stay

focused long enough to do it himself. there are alot of steps to be tken legally

before they will just give you an iep. kaydn had an IQ test done. a behavior

checklist kind of test. we have had several meetings with the teacher,

councelor, principal and school psychologist. It is a process.

Helena Donovan <fhdonovan@...> wrote: I don't know where your son goes to

school, but anything put into an IEP MUST happen. My son took " breaks " whenever

he was getting overstimulated. Fortunately he had a quiet place to go to. He

also had a one-on-one aid who could see when he was getting overstimulated and

get him to leave the classroom. (In his school kids were always coming and

going, so it wasn't too unusual). If he needs " accomodations " for test taking,

etc. those should be in the IEP. Taking a test in a quiet place is a reasonable

accomodation. By the way, my son was included with the regular class pretty

much all the time. He just went out for special services (OT, speech) and when

he needed breaks. Sometimes just sending him on an errand to bring something to

the office was enough - if he went out before he got too overstimulated and

overwhelmed!

Helena

shawna burns <shawnabrns@...> wrote:

my son can't focus in class with alot of noise either. if you get an eip then

they will put him in a smaller classroom. my son is in a class of seven students

right now and he is in first grade doing second grade work and getting them all

right. so i would suggest an eip as soon as possible. also try giving your child

coffee. believe it or not our neurologist told us that it works well.if your

child isn't taking a stimulant already

vonitabjn wrote: That sounds like a great idea. One teacher let me know that my

son

doesn't co-operate when it's time to take a test or answer questions.

I let her know that he answer my questions at home. She proceeds to

tell me that he can read but he doesn't understand what he reads due

to his lack of answering the questions. He answers my questions at

home after he's read a story. I asked her if there was a lot of

background noise in the class, maybe he's too distracted. She says

that it's a school. " It's never quiet here " . What could I say, he's

easily distracted with background noise and the school is noisy all

day. Can a " quiet place " be requested in an IEP?

Vonita

Re: ( ) My son doesn't want to go to school

On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Sherwood wrote:

> Hi Jackie,

>

> That " cool Zone " is COOL. What a creative idea, and

> the mini tramp is an awesome idea!

>

The funny thing is--the SLP already had the tramp in her closet at

school!

Basically, it came from me telling them he likes to be alone to calm

down and not

to be watched. They mentioned sensory breaks, which nearly made

me fall out of my chair. But it was " okay, this is what he does

at home. "

He can't do *that* at school, but how close can we come to it at

school?

It's a matter of survival.

My older son is at the middle school. His resource teacher is just

for autism, emotional disabilities, and other mild disabilities.

They have a " Quiet Room " built within the resource

room. It's maybe 5' x 7' or so. There is a beanbag, there are

very limited decorations, a table and chair. There's some little

stuff. But it's for those times when the kids are just too

overwhelmed

by everything going on. You can completely close the door and

turn off the lights. Some kids even take a little nap to calm

themselves

down. Or, they can go there to work very quietly on something.

It's not called a time out room or anything like that. Although

sometimes they can be sent there at the teacher's request. More

often, though,

the students can just give some sort of signal to any of their

teachers and

go there themselves.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

we live in palm harbor florida. i think it all depends on the severity of the

child also. my son (kaydn) isn't finishing anything he starts because of the

noise and movements of other students. also he doesn't like for other kids to

look at him so a smaller classroom was perfect for him. another thing is that he

has both ADHD and aspergers so it is a double whammy on the focus and

concentration. at this point he gives me the answers to his work and i write it

for him if it is more than three words he needs to write becaue he can't stay

focused long enough to do it himself. there are alot of steps to be tken legally

before they will just give you an iep. kaydn had an IQ test done. a behavior

checklist kind of test. we have had several meetings with the teacher,

councelor, principal and school psychologist. It is a process.

Helena Donovan <fhdonovan@...> wrote: I don't know where your son goes to

school, but anything put into an IEP MUST happen. My son took " breaks " whenever

he was getting overstimulated. Fortunately he had a quiet place to go to. He

also had a one-on-one aid who could see when he was getting overstimulated and

get him to leave the classroom. (In his school kids were always coming and

going, so it wasn't too unusual). If he needs " accomodations " for test taking,

etc. those should be in the IEP. Taking a test in a quiet place is a reasonable

accomodation. By the way, my son was included with the regular class pretty

much all the time. He just went out for special services (OT, speech) and when

he needed breaks. Sometimes just sending him on an errand to bring something to

the office was enough - if he went out before he got too overstimulated and

overwhelmed!

Helena

shawna burns <shawnabrns@...> wrote:

my son can't focus in class with alot of noise either. if you get an eip then

they will put him in a smaller classroom. my son is in a class of seven students

right now and he is in first grade doing second grade work and getting them all

right. so i would suggest an eip as soon as possible. also try giving your child

coffee. believe it or not our neurologist told us that it works well.if your

child isn't taking a stimulant already

vonitabjn wrote: That sounds like a great idea. One teacher let me know that my

son

doesn't co-operate when it's time to take a test or answer questions.

I let her know that he answer my questions at home. She proceeds to

tell me that he can read but he doesn't understand what he reads due

to his lack of answering the questions. He answers my questions at

home after he's read a story. I asked her if there was a lot of

background noise in the class, maybe he's too distracted. She says

that it's a school. " It's never quiet here " . What could I say, he's

easily distracted with background noise and the school is noisy all

day. Can a " quiet place " be requested in an IEP?

Vonita

Re: ( ) My son doesn't want to go to school

On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Sherwood wrote:

> Hi Jackie,

>

> That " cool Zone " is COOL. What a creative idea, and

> the mini tramp is an awesome idea!

>

The funny thing is--the SLP already had the tramp in her closet at

school!

Basically, it came from me telling them he likes to be alone to calm

down and not

to be watched. They mentioned sensory breaks, which nearly made

me fall out of my chair. But it was " okay, this is what he does

at home. "

He can't do *that* at school, but how close can we come to it at

school?

It's a matter of survival.

My older son is at the middle school. His resource teacher is just

for autism, emotional disabilities, and other mild disabilities.

They have a " Quiet Room " built within the resource

room. It's maybe 5' x 7' or so. There is a beanbag, there are

very limited decorations, a table and chair. There's some little

stuff. But it's for those times when the kids are just too

overwhelmed

by everything going on. You can completely close the door and

turn off the lights. Some kids even take a little nap to calm

themselves

down. Or, they can go there to work very quietly on something.

It's not called a time out room or anything like that. Although

sometimes they can be sent there at the teacher's request. More

often, though,

the students can just give some sort of signal to any of their

teachers and

go there themselves.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

there is a process. you have to get the diagnosis from your doctor take it to

the school have a meeting with the teacher and the councelor,principal and

school psychologist and explain to them that you would like to start an iep and

they should tell you all the staeps from there.

vonita4@... wrote: I can try the coffee, I don't know if it will work.

My son has to smell everything before he will eat or drink it. If he doesn't

like the smell, he won't put it in his mouth. He doesn't drink hot chocolate.

Usually the IEP has been changed due to the meetings called by the school. How

can I request an IEP meeting. Verbally or written?

Vonita

Re: ( ) My son doesn't want to go to school

On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Sherwood wrote:

> Hi Jackie,

>

> That " cool Zone " is COOL. What a creative idea, and

> the mini tramp is an awesome idea!

>

The funny thing is--the SLP already had the tramp in her closet at

school!

Basically, it came from me telling them he likes to be alone to calm

down and not

to be watched. They mentioned sensory breaks, which nearly made

me fall out of my chair. But it was " okay, this is what he does

at home. "

He can't do *that* at school, but how close can we come to it at

school?

It's a matter of survival.

My older son is at the middle school. His resource teacher is just

for autism, emotional disabilities, and other mild disabilities.

They have a " Quiet Room " built within the resource

room. It's maybe 5' x 7' or so. There is a beanbag, there are

very limited decorations, a table and chair. There's some little

stuff. But it's for those times when the kids are just too

overwhelmed

by everything going on. You can completely close the door and

turn off the lights. Some kids even take a little nap to calm

themselves

down. Or, they can go there to work very quietly on something.

It's not called a time out room or anything like that. Although

sometimes they can be sent there at the teacher's request. More

often, though,

the students can just give some sort of signal to any of their

teachers and

go there themselves.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

He does have an IEP in place at the moment. What process has to be done

in order for me to request changes to it? Usually the changes that have

occurred were requested by the school (teachers, principal & counselor).

-- In , shawna burns <shawnabrns@...>

wrote:

>

> there is a process. you have to get the diagnosis from your doctor

take it to the school have a meeting with the teacher and the

councelor,principal and school psychologist and explain to them that

you would like to start an iep and they should tell you all the staeps

from there.

[Guest guest]

You can request an IEP review at any time. I highly recommend doing it in

writing and keeping copies of all correspondence and document phone/in person

conversations. Here is a template for a letter that might help. Pam

_Requesting an IEP Review_

(http://www.ldadvocates.com/requesting-an-iep-review.htm)

[Guest guest]

Just request an IEP in writing. We have had iep meetings on the spot

with 's team, but they were all in the same area and didn't need

prior

notice. I'd walk in with a concern, and they'd say, " Let's have an IEP

meeting! " and we would.

Liz

On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:52 AM, vonitabjn wrote:

> He does have an IEP in place at the moment. What process has to be done

> in order for me to request changes to it? Usually the changes that have

> occurred were requested by the school (teachers, principal &

> counselor).

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -- In , shawna burns <shawnabrns@...>

> wrote:

>>

>> there is a process. you have to get the diagnosis from your doctor

> take it to the school have a meeting with the teacher and the

> councelor,principal and school psychologist and explain to them that

> you would like to start an iep and they should tell you all the staeps

> from there.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

One other thing to try - earplugs. We got some small, soft ones

that my son keeps in his desk. They don't completely block out all

the noise (like the teacher talking) but alot of that background,

soft, buzzy, annoying stuff is eliminated.

>

> > Hi Jackie,

> >

> > That " cool Zone " is COOL. What a creative idea, and

> > the mini tramp is an awesome idea!

> >

>

> The funny thing is--the SLP already had the tramp in her closet

at

> school!

> Basically, it came from me telling them he likes to be alone to

calm

> down and not

> to be watched. They mentioned sensory breaks, which nearly made

> me fall out of my chair. But it was " okay, this is what he

does

> at home. "

> He can't do *that* at school, but how close can we come to it at

> school?

> It's a matter of survival.

>

> My older son is at the middle school. His resource teacher is just

> for autism, emotional disabilities, and other mild disabilities.

> They have a " Quiet Room " built within the resource

> room. It's maybe 5' x 7' or so. There is a beanbag, there are

> very limited decorations, a table and chair. There's some little

> stuff. But it's for those times when the kids are just too

> overwhelmed

> by everything going on. You can completely close the door and

> turn off the lights. Some kids even take a little nap to calm

> themselves

> down. Or, they can go there to work very quietly on something.

>

> It's not called a time out room or anything like that. Although

> sometimes they can be sent there at the teacher's request. More

> often, though,

> the students can just give some sort of signal to any of their

> teachers and

> go there themselves.

>

> Jackie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

well at my school i just tell the principal my concerns and they change it

vonitabjn <vonita4@...> wrote: He does have an IEP in place at the

moment. What process has to be done

in order for me to request changes to it? Usually the changes that have

occurred were requested by the school (teachers, principal & counselor).

-- In , shawna burns <shawnabrns@...>

wrote:

>

> there is a process. you have to get the diagnosis from your doctor

take it to the school have a meeting with the teacher and the

councelor,principal and school psychologist and explain to them that

you would like to start an iep and they should tell you all the staeps

from there.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/28/2006 2:59:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

vonita4@... writes:

That sounds like a great idea. One teacher let me know that my son

doesn't co-operate when it's time to take a test or answer questions.

I let her know that he answer my questions at home. She proceeds to

tell me that he can read but he doesn't understand what he reads due

to his lack of answering the questions. He answers my questions at

home after he's read a story. I asked her if there was a lot of

background noise in the class, maybe he's too distracted. She says

that it's a school. " It's never quiet here " . What could I say, he's

easily distracted with background noise and the school is noisy all

day. Can a " quiet place " be requested in an IEP?

Vonita

Yes, it can be requested. He could take all his tests in another room.

Roxanna ô¿ô

Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/1/2006 5:05:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

shawnabrns@... writes:

well at my school i just tell the principal my concerns and they change it

That would not be the norm, how lucky for you!

Roxanna ô¿ô

Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.

[Guest guest]

, if you request an Assessment or anything else please do so in writing to the Principal & to the school District's Special Educational Directer. Also make a copy for yourself. They have so many days to get back to you about it. I believe they are responsible for the cost of that test too. Good Luck,Betty <sjuliesmom@...> wrote: HI,I am so upset here, I really am. I feel so overwhelemed with my son's issues. I want him to be happy but that isn't so easy.My son loves school, he always loved school. He never ever gave me a hard time separating. Well 1st grade hit and it is so different now.Jonah has a hearing loss too that is not related to his aspergers. Well, they realized because of the hearing loss he missed a few things like sounds when he was younger. So he gets pulled out for language arts every morning. Being pulled out has never been an issue for him, before the hearing loss and the asperger's dx he was being pulled out at age 3 at a special preschool thru the state for services. He has the same teacher this year as last year (she looped) and he loves her and she loves him. He says he doesn't want to go to the language arts class and he

doesn't want to do the homework, he is pretty resistant but he goes eventually and he eventually does his homework. HERE is the thing, would he be picking on anything and saying he doesn't want to go and do the work, or is he really not liking something and I have to try to change it. I am at a loss here. I have a call into the CST and I am not sure what to push for. The class he gets pulled into is a special ed class. This is not for his AS stuff, ,they don't even agree with me that he has aspergers. He gets 100's on the tests, she said he reads the best, writes the best and now I don't even think he should be in there. I mean the smaller class helps him but i don't know if he should be in there. I think he should just have an aid in the regular class, but they don't starts aids until 2nd grade.I spoke with a person who works with Autistic kids and she said he needs an educational assessment and then the

school should fit the necessary changes into his IEP. Ofcourse her assoc. can do it for $200, i can't afford that. I will talk to the teachers today and see if I can make sense of this.Please anyone going thru or has been thru this, reply!thanksmelissa

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