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Not now but at a younger stage yes.

Hey Sandy, we are not weird. No more negative labels for yourself.

Actually, I do it to myself all the time.hehehe.

Humor makes us survive amongst all these NT's I think

*grin*

>

> Do your kids hide themselves inside their shirts?...My boy always

puts

> his arms inside his shirt or he'll put his head inside too like a

> turtle. When he sits, he'll take the shirt and put it over his knees

> which stretches it and one time he put the neck hole all the way

down

> to his waist like a skirt. This kid is such a weirdo!!!...But so is

> his mom ;)

>

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Have you ever thought that our kids are the normal and the others are weird????

just a thought......(at least we know how to handle most of the

situations)....

and if we don't, we ask for help....

kim

Sandy <sandy1122@...> wrote:

Do your kids hide themselves inside their shirts?...My boy always puts

his arms inside his shirt or he'll put his head inside too like a

turtle. When he sits, he'll take the shirt and put it over his knees

which stretches it and one time he put the neck hole all the way down

to his waist like a skirt. This kid is such a weirdo!!!...But so is

his mom ;)

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Yup, does that too! Drives my husband crazy!

--- Sandy <sandy1122@...> wrote:

> Do your kids hide themselves inside their

> shirts?...My boy always puts

> his arms inside his shirt or he'll put his head

> inside too like a

> turtle. When he sits, he'll take the shirt and put

> it over his knees

> which stretches it and one time he put the neck hole

> all the way down

> to his waist like a skirt. This kid is such a

> weirdo!!!...But so is

> his mom ;)

>

>

>

>

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I have the opposite problem - my son looses his clothes during a good

meltdown. He will strip to his underwear in the timeout room at school. He

didn't used to do this when he was younger.. He just turned 13 in June.

Kathy K

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Not now but at a younger stage yes.

Hey Sandy, we are not weird. No more negative labels for yourself.

Actually, I do it to myself all the time.hehehe.

Humor makes us survive amongst all these NT's I think

*grin*

>

> Do your kids hide themselves inside their shirts?...My boy always

puts

> his arms inside his shirt or he'll put his head inside too like a

> turtle. When he sits, he'll take the shirt and put it over his knees

> which stretches it and one time he put the neck hole all the way

down

> to his waist like a skirt. This kid is such a weirdo!!!...But so is

> his mom ;)

>

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Absolutley! I think that we parents of AS kids also end up doing a better

parenting job because we learn and read about how to parent better where as many

parents who have " normal " kids don't do any of the learning that's now days

required to do a good parenting job. -

kim hibbs <seanhibbs0112@...> wrote: Have you ever thought that

our kids are the normal and the others are weird????

just a thought......(at least we know how to handle most of the situations)....

and if we don't, we ask for help....

kim

Sandy <sandy1122@...> wrote:

Do your kids hide themselves inside their shirts?...My boy always puts

his arms inside his shirt or he'll put his head inside too like a

turtle. When he sits, he'll take the shirt and put it over his knees

which stretches it and one time he put the neck hole all the way down

to his waist like a skirt. This kid is such a weirdo!!!...But so is

his mom ;)

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ROFL

I have to admit, I have often caught myself thinking that very

thought.

There was an NT boy that just wasn't nice to my Aspie son. He had

absolutely ZERO tolerance for my sons behaviors, and he was just

plain rude!

That made me think,,,, wierdo... of course, I felt guilty

afterwards, and that was just a thought in my head!

*giggles*

lisa B

> Do your kids hide themselves inside their shirts?...My

boy always puts

> his arms inside his shirt or he'll put his head inside too like a

> turtle. When he sits, he'll take the shirt and put it over his

knees

> which stretches it and one time he put the neck hole all the way

down

> to his waist like a skirt. This kid is such a weirdo!!!...But so

is

> his mom ;)

>

>

>

>

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Oh, my gosh! Seth does that all the time. About 400 times a day I'm

saying, " Don't stretch you r shirt. " It's like he's compelled.

Amber

>

> Do your kids hide themselves inside their shirts?...My boy always puts

> his arms inside his shirt or he'll put his head inside too like a

> turtle. When he sits, he'll take the shirt and put it over his knees

> which stretches it and one time he put the neck hole all the way down

> to his waist like a skirt. This kid is such a weirdo!!!...But so is

> his mom ;)

>

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Toni, my son sits " turkey buzzard " style while on a chair and using

the computer! Usually his t-shirt is pulled over his knees, too. Liz

On Aug 12, 2006, at 2:27 PM, kbtoni@... wrote:

>

>

> When my boys were in 6 th and 7th grade one of them wore a

> hooded jacket to school and kept the hood up when he was

> walking to and from the car and I'm sure he would have left

> it up if the teachers would let him. Both of my boys sit on

> the floor 'turkey buzzard' style with the shirts stretched

> over the legs. I noticed at home they hardly ever sit in a

> chair unless it is to eat or play computer, the rest of the

> time they are squatting down with the feet on the floor thus

> turkey buzzard... Toni

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WOW! That's amazing. Wonder why they sit like that? Toni

> Toni, my son sits " turkey buzzard " style while on a chair

> and using the computer! Usually his t-shirt is pulled

> over his knees, too. Liz On Aug 12, 2006, at 2:27 PM,

> kbtoni@... wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > When my boys were in 6 th and 7th grade one of them wore

> > a hooded jacket to school and kept the hood up when he

> > was walking to and from the car and I'm sure he would

> > have left it up if the teachers would let him. Both of

> > my boys sit on the floor 'turkey buzzard' style with the

> > shirts stretched over the legs. I noticed at home they

> > hardly ever sit in a chair unless it is to eat or play

> > computer, the rest of the time they are squatting down

> > with the feet on the floor thus turkey buzzard... Toni

>

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I bet it has something to do with the deep pressure in the feet, knees, and

hips. Another thing it might be is because it couble be like w-sitting.

W-sitting is when their legs look like a W. Their butt is on the floor and the

legs/feet go to either side. I had a PT give me an article on it and it said

that w-sitting isn't good because you don't use your upper body muscles. I

wonder since a lot of Aspie kids have weak upper body muscles if the buzzard

sitting has the same effect as w-sitting making it easier on their upper body.

Just a thought.

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WOW! That's amazing. Wonder why they sit like that? Toni

> Toni, my son sits " turkey buzzard " style while on a chair

> and using the computer! Usually his t-shirt is pulled

> over his knees, too. Liz On Aug 12, 2006, at 2:27 PM,

> kbtoni@... wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > When my boys were in 6 th and 7th grade one of them wore

> > a hooded jacket to school and kept the hood up when he

> > was walking to and from the car and I'm sure he would

> > have left it up if the teachers would let him. Both of

> > my boys sit on the floor 'turkey buzzard' style with the

> > shirts stretched over the legs. I noticed at home they

> > hardly ever sit in a chair unless it is to eat or play

> > computer, the rest of the time they are squatting down

> > with the feet on the floor thus turkey buzzard... Toni

>

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Interesting,although I don't quite understand how just

sitting on the floor uses upper body muscles? Not trying to

be picky, I just don't understand... Toni , Mama to two

turkey buzzards

> I bet it has something to do with the deep pressure in the

> feet, knees, and hips. Another thing it might be is

> because it couble be like w-sitting. W-sitting is when

> their legs look like a W. Their butt is on the floor and

> the legs/feet go to either side. I had a PT give me an

> article on it and it said that w-sitting isn't good

> because you don't use your upper body muscles. I wonder

> since a lot of Aspie kids have weak upper body muscles if

> the buzzard sitting has the same effect as w-sitting

> making it easier on their upper body. Just a thought.

>

>

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>

>

>

> WOW! That's amazing. Wonder why they sit like that? Toni

>

> > Toni, my son sits " turkey buzzard " style while on a

> chair

> > and using the computer! Usually his t-shirt is pulled

> > over his knees, too. Liz On Aug 12, 2006, at 2:27 PM,

> > kbtoni@... wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > When my boys were in 6 th and 7th grade one of them

> wore

> > > a hooded jacket to school and kept the hood up when

> he

> > > was walking to and from the car and I'm sure he

> would

> > > have left it up if the teachers would let him. Both

> of

> > > my boys sit on the floor 'turkey buzzard' style with

> the

> > > shirts stretched over the legs. I noticed at home

> they

> > > hardly ever sit in a chair unless it is to eat or

> play

> > > computer, the rest of the time they are squatting

> down

> > > with the feet on the floor thus turkey buzzard...

> Toni

> >

>

> I, not events, have the power to make me happy or

> unhappy

> today. I can CHOOSE which it shall be. Groucho Marx

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My son used to W sit all the time, but the OT said not to,

it can hurt your joints. Now he tucks his legs all the way under

his feet.

Jackie

>> Another thing it might be is

>> because it couble be like w-sitting. W-sitting is when

>> their legs look like a W. Their butt is on the floor and

>> the legs/feet go to either side. I had a PT give me an

>> article on it and it said that w-sitting isn't good

>> because you don't use your upper body muscles.

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Just sitting doesn't but usually they are playing. So sitting that way causes

them to use less upper body muscles when they play.

This isn't the article that she gave me but it is the same author and makes the

same points. It talks about keeping balance and crossing the midpoint. It

http://www.pediatricservices.com/parents/pc-22.htm

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>

>

>

> WOW! That's amazing. Wonder why they sit like that? Toni

>

> > Toni, my son sits " turkey buzzard " style while on a

> chair

> > and using the computer! Usually his t-shirt is pulled

> > over his knees, too. Liz On Aug 12, 2006, at 2:27 PM,

> > kbtoni@... wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > When my boys were in 6 th and 7th grade one of them

> wore

> > > a hooded jacket to school and kept the hood up when

> he

> > > was walking to and from the car and I'm sure he

> would

> > > have left it up if the teachers would let him. Both

> of

> > > my boys sit on the floor 'turkey buzzard' style with

> the

> > > shirts stretched over the legs. I noticed at home

> they

> > > hardly ever sit in a chair unless it is to eat or

> play

> > > computer, the rest of the time they are squatting

> down

> > > with the feet on the floor thus turkey buzzard...

> Toni

> >

>

> I, not events, have the power to make me happy or

> unhappy

> today. I can CHOOSE which it shall be. Groucho Marx

>

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Thanks, Beth, that makes sense to me now! Appreciate the

reply.... Toni

> Just sitting doesn't but usually they are playing. So

> sitting that way causes them to use less upper body

> muscles when they play.

>

> This isn't the article that she gave me but it is the same

> author and makes the same points. It talks about keeping

> balance and crossing the midpoint. It

> http://www.pediatricservices.com/parents/pc-22.htm

>

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> >

> >

> >

> > WOW! That's amazing. Wonder why they sit like that?

> Toni

> >

> > > Toni, my son sits " turkey buzzard " style while on a

> > chair

> > > and using the computer! Usually his t-shirt is

> pulled

> > > over his knees, too. Liz On Aug 12, 2006, at 2:27 PM

> ,

> > > kbtoni@... wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When my boys were in 6 th and 7th grade one of

> them

> > wore

> > > > a hooded jacket to school and kept the hood up

> when

> > he

> > > > was walking to and from the car and I'm sure he

> > would

> > > > have left it up if the teachers would let him.

> Both

> > of

> > > > my boys sit on the floor 'turkey buzzard' style

> with

> > the

> > > > shirts stretched over the legs. I noticed at home

> > they

> > > > hardly ever sit in a chair unless it is to eat or

> > play

> > > > computer, the rest of the time they are squatting

> > down

> > > > with the feet on the floor thus turkey buzzard...

> > Toni

> > >

> >

> > I, not events, have the power to make me happy or

> > unhappy

> > today. I can CHOOSE which it shall be. Groucho Marx

> >

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> > Check your Email accounts at MyEmail.com

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My youngest does this all the time. He wears his shirts inside out and

backwards on purpose. Then he hides his arms and sometimes his head inside the

shirt. A lady at a Japenese restaurant came over laughing to our table - she

had thought, " poor boy, crippled...with no arms... " And then she saw he did

have arms after all.

One reason I know he does it sometimes is warmth. He likes to be warm and

because he is so skinny and tiny, she doesn't keep too warm on his own. So he

is always pulling his clothes up to feel the body heat.

Roxanna

( ) My Turtleboy

Do your kids hide themselves inside their shirts?...My boy always puts

his arms inside his shirt or he'll put his head inside too like a

turtle. When he sits, he'll take the shirt and put it over his knees

which stretches it and one time he put the neck hole all the way down

to his waist like a skirt. This kid is such a weirdo!!!...But so is

his mom ;)

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LOL! How cute. :) Mine (age 6) hid aorund a corner and closed his eyes. :D

~ :)

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> My daughter, with special needs (not AS) will close her eyes AT me!

> She does this when scolded or asked to stop doing a behavior that

> she is enjoying, but others find annoying, such as licking a toy. I

> call it the " Ostrich Effect " - LOL - if she can't see me, I guess

> she figures I will go away!

> Velvet

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Roxanna, you said your boy likes to be warm. Max, while he doesn't

hide inside his clothes much, he doe sinsist on wearing long pants,

long socks, and sneakers. When I asked him why, he told me, " So I can

be warmy warmy warmmmmm. "

He's 6, about 4ft tall, and about 60 lbs. He's a solid chunk of kid.

But he wnats more warmth.

>

> My youngest does this all the time. He wears his shirts inside out

and backwards on purpose. Then he hides his arms and sometimes his

head inside the shirt. A lady at a Japenese restaurant came over

laughing to our table - she had thought, " poor boy, crippled...with no

arms... " And then she saw he did have arms after all.

>

> One reason I know he does it sometimes is warmth. He likes to be

warm and because he is so skinny and tiny, she doesn't keep too warm

on his own. So he is always pulling his clothes up to feel the body heat.

>

>

> Roxanna

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You just described my son who is 5 and he is exactly the same size (with an

adult size head)......but he seems to never feel the cold.....but he will wear

things backwards or inside out.... and the more i tell him to change...well you

know...now I pick my battles and am not worried about his underwear being

backward....

kim

<carriebeary77@...> wrote:

Roxanna, you said your boy likes to be warm. Max, while he doesn't

hide inside his clothes much, he doe sinsist on wearing long pants,

long socks, and sneakers. When I asked him why, he told me, " So I can

be warmy warmy warmmmmm. "

He's 6, about 4ft tall, and about 60 lbs. He's a solid chunk of kid.

But he wnats more warmth.

>

> My youngest does this all the time. He wears his shirts inside out

and backwards on purpose. Then he hides his arms and sometimes his

head inside the shirt. A lady at a Japenese restaurant came over

laughing to our table - she had thought, " poor boy, crippled...with no

arms... " And then she saw he did have arms after all.

>

> One reason I know he does it sometimes is warmth. He likes to be

warm and because he is so skinny and tiny, she doesn't keep too warm

on his own. So he is always pulling his clothes up to feel the body heat.

>

>

> Roxanna

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What gets me is that w elive in TEXAS! It's already over 100 most of

the year. I get hot just looking at his clothes. lol!!

>

> You just described my son who is 5 and he is exactly the same

size (with an adult size head)......but he seems to never feel the

cold.....but he will wear things backwards or inside out.... and the

more i tell him to change...well you know...now I pick my battles and

am not worried about his underwear being backward....

>

> kim

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LOL, well there goes the " skinny " theory! Ryder is 6 also but he is fairly

short and maybe 35 pounds. I'm not sure of his height off hand. He also likes

wearing " long sleeve pants " all summer so he could stay warm. I have to beg to

get him to wear shorts.

Roxanna

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Roxanna, you said your boy likes to be warm. Max, while he doesn't

hide inside his clothes much, he doe sinsist on wearing long pants,

long socks, and sneakers. When I asked him why, he told me, " So I can

be warmy warmy warmmmmm. "

He's 6, about 4ft tall, and about 60 lbs. He's a solid chunk of kid.

But he wnats more warmth.

>

> My youngest does this all the time. He wears his shirts inside out

and backwards on purpose. Then he hides his arms and sometimes his

head inside the shirt. A lady at a Japenese restaurant came over

laughing to our table - she had thought, " poor boy, crippled...with no

arms... " And then she saw he did have arms after all.

>

> One reason I know he does it sometimes is warmth. He likes to be

warm and because he is so skinny and tiny, she doesn't keep too warm

on his own. So he is always pulling his clothes up to feel the body heat.

>

>

> Roxanna

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Long sleeve pants! Lol! We hear that same phrase at our house, too!

Max has a few pair of shorts and even helped me pick some

athletic-style satiny ones for himself this summer. He hasn't worn

them once. And it's a struggle getting the denim shorts on him! I

finally gave up and just let him wear his good school jeans. I had to

let it go because who am I to say whether he's too hot or not? It's

not my body.

I can't fathom wearing jeans and long socks in TX all summer when the

weather hits 105 regularly, but hey, I wasn't raised here, what do I

know? lol!

>

> LOL, well there goes the " skinny " theory! Ryder is 6 also but he is

fairly short and maybe 35 pounds. I'm not sure of his height off

hand. He also likes wearing " long sleeve pants " all summer so he

could stay warm. I have to beg to get him to wear shorts.

>

> Roxanna

>

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LOL sounds like our --he's 6, weighs 42 pounds and is 45 1/2 inches tall

(as of last Friday). He looks like a little twig!! He wants to constantly wear

jeans/sweats, long sleeve shirts/sweaters, and freaks out if I make him wear

shorts on the few warm days we get here in the Great Northwest (we've hit 90 5

times this summer here on the island). It's been really weird, though, because

he started sweating when the sun and temperature started going down on those

warm days. Does anyone else have that issue? Of course, his dad (who we suspect

has AS) is the same way--he wears blue jeans year round, even when we're

visiting family in Kansas and it's over 100 outside. Dad only wears shorts to

bed or to the golf course (but complains because his jeans would be more

comfortable).

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Roxanna, you said your boy likes to be warm. Max, while he doesn't

hide inside his clothes much, he doe sinsist on wearing long pants,

long socks, and sneakers. When I asked him why, he told me, " So I can

be warmy warmy warmmmmm. "

He's 6, about 4ft tall, and about 60 lbs. He's a solid chunk of kid.

But he wnats more warmth.

>

> My youngest does this all the time. He wears his shirts inside out

and backwards on purpose. Then he hides his arms and sometimes his

head inside the shirt. A lady at a Japenese restaurant came over

laughing to our table - she had thought, " poor boy, crippled...with no

arms... " And then she saw he did have arms after all.

>

> One reason I know he does it sometimes is warmth. He likes to be

warm and because he is so skinny and tiny, she doesn't keep too warm

on his own. So he is always pulling his clothes up to feel the body heat.

>

>

> Roxanna

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Seth always wants to wear " long-sleeved pants " as well. And long

sleeve shirts. He hates summer. And church clothes but that a whole

nother post.

Amber

- In , " Roxanna " <madideas@...> wrote:

>

> LOL, well there goes the " skinny " theory! Ryder is 6 also but he is

fairly short and maybe 35 pounds. I'm not sure of his height off

hand. He also likes wearing " long sleeve pants " all summer so he

could stay warm. I have to beg to get him to wear shorts.

>

> Roxanna

> Re: ( ) My Turtleboy

>

>

> Roxanna, you said your boy likes to be warm. Max, while he doesn't

> hide inside his clothes much, he doe sinsist on wearing long pants,

> long socks, and sneakers. When I asked him why, he told me, " So I can

> be warmy warmy warmmmmm. "

>

> He's 6, about 4ft tall, and about 60 lbs. He's a solid chunk of kid.

> But he wnats more warmth.

>

>

> >

> > My youngest does this all the time. He wears his shirts inside out

> and backwards on purpose. Then he hides his arms and sometimes his

> head inside the shirt. A lady at a Japenese restaurant came over

> laughing to our table - she had thought, " poor boy, crippled...with no

> arms... " And then she saw he did have arms after all.

> >

> > One reason I know he does it sometimes is warmth. He likes to be

> warm and because he is so skinny and tiny, she doesn't keep too warm

> on his own. So he is always pulling his clothes up to feel the

body heat.

> >

> >

> > Roxanna

>

>

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My son too. Long sleeves with long pants, he told me because long

pants and short sleeved shirts don't match.

-- In , " Amber " <tootsanderson@...>

wrote:

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> Seth always wants to wear " long-sleeved pants " as well. And long

> sleeve shirts. He hates summer. And church clothes but that a

whole

> nother post.

>

> Amber

>

>

>

>

>

>

> - In , " Roxanna " <madideas@> wrote:

> >

> > LOL, well there goes the " skinny " theory! Ryder is 6 also but

he is

> fairly short and maybe 35 pounds. I'm not sure of his height off

> hand. He also likes wearing " long sleeve pants " all summer so he

> could stay warm. I have to beg to get him to wear shorts.

> >

> > Roxanna

> > Re: ( ) My Turtleboy

> >

> >

> > Roxanna, you said your boy likes to be warm. Max, while he

doesn't

> > hide inside his clothes much, he doe sinsist on wearing long

pants,

> > long socks, and sneakers. When I asked him why, he told

me, " So I can

> > be warmy warmy warmmmmm. "

> >

> > He's 6, about 4ft tall, and about 60 lbs. He's a solid chunk

of kid.

> > But he wnats more warmth.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > My youngest does this all the time. He wears his shirts

inside out

> > and backwards on purpose. Then he hides his arms and sometimes

his

> > head inside the shirt. A lady at a Japenese restaurant came

over

> > laughing to our table - she had thought, " poor boy,

crippled...with no

> > arms... " And then she saw he did have arms after all.

> > >

> > > One reason I know he does it sometimes is warmth. He likes

to be

> > warm and because he is so skinny and tiny, she doesn't keep

too warm

> > on his own. So he is always pulling his clothes up to feel the

> body heat.

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Same here! He does NOT like to wear his dress clothes, let me tell ya!

And we don't go just once a week. We have a 1-hr Bible study, a 2-hr

ministry school & service meeting, and then Sunday is the public

discourse & a study of a Bible-based magazine publication. So we're

dressing him up a minimum of 3 times a week. And it is a minimum of 3

battles per week. I just dress him because asking him to please put on

his dress pants, then shirt, etc. is not useful. It doens't happen.

But when he dresses w/o complaint (help form me or on his own) we

praise him. Power of positive reinforcement, we hope.

What I've noticed is that it's not so much changing into dress clothes

for him as it is just changing what he's doing.

Anyway, you're not alone!!!

~ :)

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> Seth always wants to wear " long-sleeved pants " as well. And long

> sleeve shirts. He hates summer. And church clothes but that a whole

> nother post.

>

> Amber

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