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-first of all, my sympathies.

our son at that age was walking out the front door in

the middle of the night. we had to install an

(inexpensive) alarm that sounded when the hallway door

opened. it startled him so much that first night, he

never did it again.

i wonder if that could help in your situation?

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Hi Dave,

When was 3, we moved into our current house and he would go explore

while everyone was asleep. I don't know how many mornings we woke up that

had rearranged the living room or taken food out of the refrigerator

and hid it in his room or would fall asleep in the toy room (which is now his

bedroom). We ended up stacking those wooden toddler doorway gates 3 high in

order to keep him in his room at night. We started out with 1, but he climbed

over that too easily. When we went to 2, we thought we had him, but after 1/2 a

night he was over them with no problems. With the 3rd one, there was no hole big

enough for him to fit through and he couldn't fit between the top one and the

top of the doorway. He tried--rather hard he tried--to get out, but after a

month or so we were finally able to take them down without him escaping anymore.

He's now 6 and seems to have outgrown the behavior.

Hope this helps some!!

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( ) Please help with suggestions, I'm beggin here.

My name's Dave and I have Aspergers,Bipolar and PTSD. My 4 year old son

has Aspergers with the insensitivity to pain. He gets up without fail

at 3 am and usually comes in to lay with us. Last night, he got up and

took our living room apart, climbed up on top of the refrigerator by

building himself a staircase out of household objects. There aren't

enough places to put everything that he can use. We would have to lock

up our chairs and tables. We can't sleep for worry of him hurting

himself or the household pets that he lets out every night. How do we

stop this? How do we get him to stay in bed short of druggin the poor

kid? Please help....

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First of all sweetie.. You aren't alone! My son was very much the night

time wanderer I can only say that time does help very much.. As he becomes

more verbal and the concept of.. " grounded " LOL gets firmly implanted in his

brain LOL

In the meantime.. I choose to have my son in my room with me.. And we had

several latch locks on my bedroom door.. It did mean I was often awakened

with him climbing on my forehead but.. Safety is an issue here.. And you

said it.. Drugs aren't always an option..

HOWEVER check into it with your doctor as well.. I have heard good results

with..cloneazepam ( sp?) be careful of over the counter stuff as well as

herbal remedies.. Just make sure your doctor is aware of everything you try.

The controls on Herbals aren't as fine.. And can vary in doses.. Etc..

These are still medicines..

Take care and huggs for your family.

Relish in the thought that you have a very bright and inquisitive boy there.

And hope he learns to hone his skills as well as you have!

-- ( ) Please help with suggestions, I'm beggin here.

My name's Dave and I have Aspergers,Bipolar and PTSD. My 4 year old son

has Aspergers with the insensitivity to pain. He gets up without fail

at 3 am and usually comes in to lay with us. Last night, he got up and

took our living room apart, climbed up on top of the refrigerator by

building himself a staircase out of household objects. There aren't

enough places to put everything that he can use. We would have to lock

up our chairs and tables. We can't sleep for worry of him hurting

himself or the household pets that he lets out every night. How do we

stop this? How do we get him to stay in bed short of druggin the poor

kid? Please help....

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OH MAN That's a great idea!!

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here.

-first of all, my sympathies.

our son at that age was walking out the front door in

the middle of the night. we had to install an

(inexpensive) alarm that sounded when the hallway door

opened. it startled him so much that first night, he

never did it again.

i wonder if that could help in your situation?

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Hi Dave,

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned as I'm a little behind on emails. I

read your post and had flashbacks of my son! I feel for you! I understand

you can't have an empty house to live in. It's not much, but we had to tie

our chairs (the legs with maybe a 8 inch span, enough to swing the chair out

to sit on) to the table legs. That way our son would have to drag the table

and six chairs over if he wanted to try the " easy " route to the top of the

fridge. Of course he still found other ways to get up there, but that gave us

time to hear what he was up to. We did have very sparse common living areas

for a few years to keep him safe. :o)

Miranda (13)

ny (11)

R.J. (7)

Beth (6)

Trying to control children by yelling is as utterly futile

as attempting to steer a car by honking the horn.

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we got that alarm at tone (a mall store). but

that was years ago. there are prbably way more choices

for alarms nowadays.

--- <cmcintosh5@...> wrote:

> OH MAN That's a great idea!!

>

> -- Re: ( ) Please help with

> suggestions, I'm beggin

> here.

>

>

> -first of all, my sympathies.

>

> our son at that age was walking out the front door

> in

> the middle of the night. we had to install an

> (inexpensive) alarm that sounded when the hallway

> door

> opened. it startled him so much that first night, he

> never did it again.

> i wonder if that could help in your situation?

>

>

> __________________________________________________

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Hi I am laughing here because I had forgotten that we tied our chairs to our

table. My AS daughter is only 3 1/2 and we had to do that. The looks we got when

company tried to sit and saw all the chairs tied. lol But as all things with

these kids that passed and she was on to other things.

Tammie

Re: ( ) Please help with suggestions, I'm beggin here.

Hi Dave,

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned as I'm a little behind on emails. I

read your post and had flashbacks of my son! I feel for you! I understand

you can't have an empty house to live in. It's not much, but we had to tie

our chairs (the legs with maybe a 8 inch span, enough to swing the chair out

to sit on) to the table legs. That way our son would have to drag the table

and six chairs over if he wanted to try the " easy " route to the top of the

fridge. Of course he still found other ways to get up there, but that gave us

time to hear what he was up to. We did have very sparse common living areas

for a few years to keep him safe. :o)

Miranda (13)

ny (11)

R.J. (7)

Beth (6)

Trying to control children by yelling is as utterly futile

as attempting to steer a car by honking the horn.

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http://www.autism-ally.com/products/products.htm

Here are some alarms.

Roxanna

Re: ( ) Please help with

> suggestions, I'm beggin

> here.

>

>

> -first of all, my sympathies.

>

> our son at that age was walking out the front door

> in

> the middle of the night. we had to install an

> (inexpensive) alarm that sounded when the hallway

> door

> opened. it startled him so much that first night, he

> never did it again.

> i wonder if that could help in your situation?

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Oh man, I am so far behind on checking on things. Thank you all for the

great input and moral support. Yes, this kid is quite the dynamo when it

comes to getting what he wants. We recently discovered that he now likes

to steal and hide sharp objects so he can cut things up when he gets the

chance. A whole new range of (put it out of reach) happened for that.

Scary! Child proof locks are NOT child proof to him. He can dismantle or

figure out the best of them. So all our knives and scissors require US

to get on a stool. Oh, I will totally earn my grey hairs with this one.

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Hi Dave...I am interested to see what sort of feedback you get on this one b/c

my DS who is 3 is also guilty of getting out of bed and " sneaking " around the

house in the middle of the night. He gets up on the counters and digs around

ontop of the fridge, colors on the walls, eats, you name it. I swear if one

more person says to me, " where were you when he was doing...fill in the blank " I

might go crazy! I put up gates, doorknob locks, lock doors, child locks, you

name it! I just wanted to say that you are definitely not alone in this

behavior, and it is so exasperating! I hope that we can both find the solution

to this problem ASAP, for our children's safety, as well as our familys sanity!

Good luck!

Dave <thewildeman2@...> wrote:

My name's Dave and I have Aspergers,Bipolar and PTSD. My 4 year old

son

has Aspergers with the insensitivity to pain. He gets up without fail

at 3 am and usually comes in to lay with us. Last night, he got up and

took our living room apart, climbed up on top of the refrigerator by

building himself a staircase out of household objects. There aren't

enough places to put everything that he can use. We would have to lock

up our chairs and tables. We can't sleep for worry of him hurting

himself or the household pets that he lets out every night. How do we

stop this? How do we get him to stay in bed short of druggin the poor

kid? Please help....

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