Re: Boyscout Camp anne

July 14, 2006

Speaking as a former Scout Leader, I wouldn't take too kindly to having

parents staying on site. Unless of course, they were helping to run the

camp!

By being on site you will run the risk of your son loosing the respect that

he has gained from other members of his Patrol or the troop. If you are

actually staying with your son, this will disrupt the operation of his

Patrol which could be the cause of further resentment and possibly

embarressment for your son.

Camps are an opportunity to get away from parents and to have a good time

(within the rules of discipline of course).

You said that your son hasn't been in Scouts for very long and that it is

his first camp. As first camps go, he might or might not have much

difficulty. I bet though, any difficulty that he does have would be not much

different from others who haven't been camping before. The most common

problem is homesickness.

Visit by all means, at camps I've been involved in, parents were always

welcome for a visit.

( ) Boyscout Camp

> Hello everyone,

>

> I have a 13 year old boy with AS and we just joined the boy scouts.

> They are going camping for a week in Rhode Island. I am having

> anxieties but I thought we go and I stay with my son to see how it

> goes. I am afraid...I guess because we are knew and the scoutmaster it

> not very helpful. Does anyone have any suggestions. If I do go, I am

> hoping I don't destroy my son or make him stress or does anyone think

> this would be good for him. I will be staying with him. Would I be

> really causing him anxieties if I stayed a day and then leave him

> there? Other mothers are leaving but their husbands are with them. My

> husband doesn't want to go.

>

July 14, 2006

We finished up with day camp yesterday with ph. There are

activities today, but not Scout-oriented enough to make it worth our

while.

My son would not have lasted 20 minutes without me. He had 3 major

meltdowns--one when learning first aid, one when he

made it across the monkey bridge (!!!), and one during rafting. Two

of those led him to tell me that when someone is going to

do something scary and fake, the person actually doing the faking has

to tell him it's fake, preferably beforehand. That's big and the

fact HE told

me! Aside from the usual AS stuff, his anxiety is what really

affects him the most. So, he sat out of alot of stuff and watched.

BUT he did

play Train Wreck with 50 other kids during a rain delay. That is a

huge accomplishment for him. He also did a decent-enough

front stroke to get into the real pool instead of the wading pool.

Really cool. I was like glue to him all week, since

I was worried about some pushing issues he's acquired lately. No

one else we knew was there, either. But it was kinda

nice just having my sole responsibility be him and only him.

This is the first time we've been to this particular camp, and there

is no way I would have been able to tell anyone else

what to do with him in all these situations.

In other news, my 12 yo, , is also at Camp right now, with DH,

as always. He repelled 30' the other day, half of it with

a terrified look on his face. He has been finding his way to his

classes without getting lost, and he ate fish.

Big stuff going on here. DH reports he's really been hanging out

with the boys, although always with his spinning

thing in his hand. :-) He went to a presentation by the

international Scout at camp, and that Scout had some

sort of spinning thing, too. My son asked about it, and the Scout

said it helps calm him down when he's stressed.

Ah, two peas in a pod.

My kids really miss each other. Of course, they are really roughing

it down at week-long camp. So much so

that sometimes DH can't always get our email right when we send it.

LOL ph has been sending

information about the progress he's made in Animal Crossing. Very

cute.

Since ph is crossing over in Feb, both boys will go to camp

together next summer. Hopefully (oh please, oh please)

ph's anxiety will be much better. I suspect it will be a family

trip, though. I better get in shape, because this

week was hard enough with all the walking.

Jackie

ph (10, Asperger's/ADHD)

(12, PDD-NOS/ADHD)

July 14, 2006

I help as caregiver for my boyfriend who has a 12 year old with Aspbergers

disorder. This child has few friends, and could benefit from having a buddy to

play with once in a while. The neighbors aren't very nice to him because he is

" different " . if you could let me know more about social oppurtunities that are

available for my boyfriend's son, please E-mail me. Thanks

Jackie Geipel <jackie@...> wrote:

We finished up with day camp yesterday with ph. There are

activities today, but not Scout-oriented enough to make it worth our

while.

My son would not have lasted 20 minutes without me. He had 3 major

meltdowns--one when learning first aid, one when he

made it across the monkey bridge (!!!), and one during rafting. Two

of those led him to tell me that when someone is going to

do something scary and fake, the person actually doing the faking has

to tell him it's fake, preferably beforehand. That's big and the

fact HE told

me! Aside from the usual AS stuff, his anxiety is what really

affects him the most. So, he sat out of alot of stuff and watched.

BUT he did

play Train Wreck with 50 other kids during a rain delay. That is a

huge accomplishment for him. He also did a decent-enough

front stroke to get into the real pool instead of the wading pool.

Really cool. I was like glue to him all week, since

I was worried about some pushing issues he's acquired lately. No

one else we knew was there, either. But it was kinda

nice just having my sole responsibility be him and only him.

This is the first time we've been to this particular camp, and there

is no way I would have been able to tell anyone else

what to do with him in all these situations.

In other news, my 12 yo, , is also at Camp right now, with DH,

as always. He repelled 30' the other day, half of it with

a terrified look on his face. He has been finding his way to his

classes without getting lost, and he ate fish.

Big stuff going on here. DH reports he's really been hanging out

with the boys, although always with his spinning

thing in his hand. :-) He went to a presentation by the

international Scout at camp, and that Scout had some

sort of spinning thing, too. My son asked about it, and the Scout

said it helps calm him down when he's stressed.

Ah, two peas in a pod.

My kids really miss each other. Of course, they are really roughing

it down at week-long camp. So much so

that sometimes DH can't always get our email right when we send it.

LOL ph has been sending

information about the progress he's made in Animal Crossing. Very

cute.

Since ph is crossing over in Feb, both boys will go to camp

together next summer. Hopefully (oh please, oh please)

ph's anxiety will be much better. I suspect it will be a family

trip, though. I better get in shape, because this

week was hard enough with all the walking.

Jackie

ph (10, Asperger's/ADHD)

(12, PDD-NOS/ADHD)

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July 14, 2006

YEAH!! Sounds like things are falling into place with scouts!! Hopefully as time

passes some of the anxiety will lessen, especially when he gets a little more

used to the other kids. Plus it's nice that they have found others they can

relate to within their respective camps.

Our oldest was a Wolf Cub last year and just crossed to Bear a month ago.

joined just before the crossing ceremony and was recognized as our

Pack's only new Tiger. He got his Tiger book and has already started working

towards all of his badges. Since he is the only Tiger, his Pack leader voluntold

me as his Den Leader. This should be fun. I've never been in scouts before and

the only experience I have is being married to a former Boy Scout and being the

mom of 2 scouts!! seems excited that I'm going to be involved,

unfortunately he doesn't understand that all of the Den stuff for his book has

to wait until September when we get more people. He is taking this so

literally--I'm his den leader, he's the only Tiger in the den, so anything we do

that could be signed off in his book as a den activity he wants to sign off.

We've had to hide the book so he can't find it and finish it by the end of

summer.

Good luck with scouting this year and remember it's just another wonderful

adventure!! : )

8 anxiety

6 Asperger's/anxiety/epilepsy

Hunter 4

Dylan 1

Re: ( ) Boyscout Camp anne

We finished up with day camp yesterday with ph. There are

activities today, but not Scout-oriented enough to make it worth our

while.

My son would not have lasted 20 minutes without me. He had 3 major

meltdowns--one when learning first aid, one when he

made it across the monkey bridge (!!!), and one during rafting. Two

of those led him to tell me that when someone is going to

do something scary and fake, the person actually doing the faking has

to tell him it's fake, preferably beforehand. That's big and the

fact HE told

me! Aside from the usual AS stuff, his anxiety is what really

affects him the most. So, he sat out of alot of stuff and watched.

BUT he did

play Train Wreck with 50 other kids during a rain delay. That is a

huge accomplishment for him. He also did a decent-enough

front stroke to get into the real pool instead of the wading pool.

Really cool. I was like glue to him all week, since

I was worried about some pushing issues he's acquired lately. No

one else we knew was there, either. But it was kinda

nice just having my sole responsibility be him and only him.

This is the first time we've been to this particular camp, and there

is no way I would have been able to tell anyone else

what to do with him in all these situations.

In other news, my 12 yo, , is also at Camp right now, with DH,

as always. He repelled 30' the other day, half of it with

a terrified look on his face. He has been finding his way to his

classes without getting lost, and he ate fish.

Big stuff going on here. DH reports he's really been hanging out

with the boys, although always with his spinning

thing in his hand. :-) He went to a presentation by the

international Scout at camp, and that Scout had some

sort of spinning thing, too. My son asked about it, and the Scout

said it helps calm him down when he's stressed.

Ah, two peas in a pod.

My kids really miss each other. Of course, they are really roughing

it down at week-long camp. So much so

that sometimes DH can't always get our email right when we send it.

LOL ph has been sending

information about the progress he's made in Animal Crossing. Very

cute.

Since ph is crossing over in Feb, both boys will go to camp

together next summer. Hopefully (oh please, oh please)

ph's anxiety will be much better. I suspect it will be a family

trip, though. I better get in shape, because this

week was hard enough with all the walking.

Jackie

ph (10, Asperger's/ADHD)

(12, PDD-NOS/ADHD)

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July 14, 2006

Like I said, we skipped day camp today and found a public pool.

Nice one I never knew existed (not in my town.) He practiced

and practiced and got the back float down by the end of the day!

He couldn't do it at all yesterday. I went in the pool, too, can't

remember the last time I did that--at a hotel somewhere, so a year ago?

He also went into water where he couldn't stand up--first time, I think.

There was a small-ish water slide there, but one that twists. He wanted

to go down it, which surprised me. But it's pretty brisk and dumps you

pretty hard into the water. I told him if he could take two steps

off the

side off the pool and seriously JUMP into the water, and recover, I

would let him go on the slide. He made it just standing on the side,

and semi-sliding/jumping. So no slide today, but I told him we would

go back before the end of the summer. Meanwhile, we are going

on vacation and every hotel we're staying at has a pool, so he'll get in

some more practice.

Now I need to clean up the house before the other guys get home

tomorrow, lest they think all we've done all week was day camp and

watch TV and eat at 's.

Jackie

On Jul 14, 2006, at 3:36 PM, & wrote:

> YEAH!! Sounds like things are falling into place with scouts!!

July 14, 2006

On Jul 14, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Shackleton cindy wrote:

> I help as caregiver for my boyfriend who has a 12 year old with

> Aspbergers disorder. This child has few friends, and could benefit

> from having a buddy to play with once in a while. The neighbors

> aren't very nice to him because he is " different " . if you could

> let me know more about social oppurtunities that are available for

> my boyfriend's son,

What are his interests? The best place I found to start is with his

interests. It's hard enough to find friends when you have AS, it's

even harder to break into

an activity that is uninteresting or confusing. My 11 yo had a

social skill class at school this year, and met a few boys. They

have been coming

over this summer, one more than the other. Okay, so they go into

the basement to play video games. But it's something. I try to fit

in lunch out, too.

It's been a growth experience for my son to be calling and be called.

And he wasn't very good on the phone. Before now, no one ever

called. Friends were either at school or Scouts.

It's probably also a good goal for to start small--one or two

people. Probably pretty hard to throw him into a group situation

and hope everything works out.

My kids never play with anyone in our neighborhood, either. It's

nice they're there, but they mostly roller blade or bike around, or

do other sports. My kids don't.

Later this summer, my 11 yo is going to GenCon, a convention for roll

playing games, miniatures, board and electronic games. Think Nerdvana.

He looks " normal " in that environment.

Jackie

July 14, 2006

Hi,

I too have a 13 year old boy with AS as well. The neighborhood kids are not

nice at all. There were problems. I would like my son to have a friend to come

over every now and then and just be themselves without any judging them. Where

do you live?

Jackie Geipel <jackie@...> wrote:

On Jul 14, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Shackleton cindy wrote:

> I help as caregiver for my boyfriend who has a 12 year old with

> Aspbergers disorder. This child has few friends, and could benefit

> from having a buddy to play with once in a while. The neighbors

> aren't very nice to him because he is " different " . if you could

> let me know more about social oppurtunities that are available for

> my boyfriend's son,

What are his interests? The best place I found to start is with his

interests. It's hard enough to find friends when you have AS, it's

even harder to break into

an activity that is uninteresting or confusing. My 11 yo had a

social skill class at school this year, and met a few boys. They

have been coming

over this summer, one more than the other. Okay, so they go into

the basement to play video games. But it's something. I try to fit

in lunch out, too.

It's been a growth experience for my son to be calling and be called.

And he wasn't very good on the phone. Before now, no one ever

called. Friends were either at school or Scouts.

It's probably also a good goal for to start small--one or two

people. Probably pretty hard to throw him into a group situation

and hope everything works out.

My kids never play with anyone in our neighborhood, either. It's

nice they're there, but they mostly roller blade or bike around, or

do other sports. My kids don't.

Later this summer, my 11 yo is going to GenCon, a convention for roll

playing games, miniatures, board and electronic games. Think Nerdvana.

He looks " normal " in that environment.

Jackie

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July 15, 2006

Later this summer, my 11 yo is going to GenCon, a convention

for roll

playing games, miniatures, board and electronic games. Think

Nerdvana.

He looks " normal " in that environment.

My kids would absolutely LOVE that. Nerdvana- too cute

Toni

> On Jul 14, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Shackleton cindy wrote:

>

> > I help as caregiver for my boyfriend who has a 12 year

> > old with Aspbergers disorder. This child has few

> > friends, and could benefit from having a buddy to play

> > with once in a while. The neighbors aren't very nice

> > to him because he is " different " . if you could let me

> know more about social oppurtunities that are available

> > for my boyfriend's son,

>

> What are his interests? The best place I found to start

> is with his interests. It's hard enough to find

> friends when you have AS, it's even harder to break into

> an activity that is uninteresting or confusing. My 11

> yo had a social skill class at school this year, and met

> a few boys. They have been coming

> over this summer, one more than the other. Okay, so they

> go into the basement to play video games. But it's

> something. I try to fit in lunch out, too.

> It's been a growth experience for my son to be calling and

> be called. And he wasn't very good on the phone. Before

> now, no one ever called. Friends were either at school

> or Scouts.

>

> It's probably also a good goal for to start small--one or

> two people. Probably pretty hard to throw him into a

> group situation and hope everything works out.

>

> My kids never play with anyone in our neighborhood,

> either. It's nice they're there, but they mostly

> roller blade or bike around, or do other sports. My

> kids don't.

>

> Later this summer, my 11 yo is going to GenCon, a

> convention for roll playing games, miniatures, board and

> electronic games. Think Nerdvana. He looks " normal " in

> that environment.

>

> Jackie

>

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July 15, 2006

My son is on his way to scout camp in 15 minutes LOL he's going for the

weekend this time only.

I was a leader too.. And I agree. Children and parents need time apart ..

However if you wish to become a leader I couldn't recommend it more! Its a

great way to become involved. As a leader I always make sure that I don't

take care of my son. He knows that I am BUBBLES not mommy when its camp

time!

And if he has any problems or concerns to go through the chain of command.

I whole heartedly recommend becoming a leader!

-- Re: ( ) Boyscout Camp anne