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In a message dated 7/24/2006 4:36:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

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Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to everyone for " listening "

Any time do u know this neighbor if you do not I would have gone the next

day and not in front of her kids and asked her if you could speak with her and

then given her information and an article on Aspergers, she might be

understanding then again we have people all over that are ignorant and not

understanding. About the shoe issue my son always wanted to wear his Tevas

every where

even when playing basketball with the neighborhood kids they all told him he

was strange and he should put sneakers on he did not care now that he is

older he wears sneakers and is much more appropriate with the teens on our

block.

let us know how your neighbor reacted if u do go see her. Good Luck

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I think the proper thing to do is to ask the woman what the problem is

and see if you can educate her on the situation and on how people are

just different. Maybe she'll see the light, maybe not. Let her know how

much she hurt your son in her behavior. If she won't listen, then you

and your son, will have to write her off. Explain to your son how some

people just don't understand and are very short sighted on viewing

others. It's okay to be different and if someone doesn't think so then

they aren't worth your time. I know this is hard to deal with. We are

total pariahs in our neighborhood, but that's for more reason than me

just being weird. I am actually suing my last job for discrimination. I

deal with racist bigots in the other half of our duplex. I'll post my

story later, it's maddening. But on your situation I truly wish you and

your son the very best. It is very sad how some people let the outside

appearances dictate their thoughts. Don't get into an argument with her

by the way, if she gets nasty just turn and walk away. She isn't worth

your time.

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Aw - your story made me cry too - it's the type of stuff I worry about

every day with

my little guy (also named by the way). I saw a t-shirt online that I may

order for my

son (when and if he gets an official diagnosis) - it says " I'm autistic, and I

think you're

weird too! "

I think you are a better person than I, as I would have marched down the road

and popped

that mom right in the kisser! But what good would that do? I do think, though,

that you

would be smart to approach this woman in a non-confrontational way (if

possible). It may

not get you anyway with her - and she may continue to be the most obnoxious,

uncaring

bafoon in the world - but you will know where you stand with her. Give her the

benefit of

the doubt that she was concerned for her children's safety and doesn't

understand what

is all about. Talk to her about your son's situation and maybe you can get

her to see

that all people are different. Maybe she would be willing to have a little

neighborhood

get-together and let the kids play together in a somewhat supervised situation

so that she

could see what is really like.

Just maybe if she gets to know him, she will realize what a special guy he

really is and

hopefully she will realize just how much she and her own children could benefit

from

knowing .

Good luck whatever you decide.

Janna

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I'm new to the list but need some help or assurance on what happened

> to my 12 year old son this past week. I have an unfriendly neighbor,

> and this article just hit home for me this morning.

> is Aspergers. As we all know, there are many different symptoms

> of this disorder. I am lucky as usually wants to interact with

> children and make new friends. (although he flocks to younger kids as

> they don't " pick up " on his social issues as much) He is very

> loving, but takes things very literally.

> sometimes goes outside our yard, and walks around our block,

> talking to himself about whatever subject he is fixated on at the

> moment. (For the past 2 weeks its been American Indians and their

> part in US History) He usually has no shoes on, because he refuses

> to wear shoes except for school, but his feet never seem to bother

> him. Sometimes he " shadow-boxes " , punching at the air if he's

> fixating on becoming the next " HeavyWeight Champion of the World. "

> He never hurts anyone, just minds his own business, and walks around

> the neighborhood.

> A couple nights ago, he came home excited, asking to play " Yatzee "

> with the kids down the street. They live 3 doors down from us, so I

> said sure he could, excited for him that he had met some new

> friends. Of course he rattled off his new friends' names, and

> assured me he'd be back in a bit.

> About 15 min later, returned, looking puzzled and so sad. He

> explained to me that when he went back to the house, the kids had

> gone inside and never came back out. He waited for them, but they

> never showed. Then the mother came out and proceeded to yell at him,

> telling him she wanted him to stay away from her children, that he

> was " wierd " , and that if he didn't go home she was going to call the

> cops on him. (on what grounds, I don't know) He advised her he didn't

> do anything wrong, just wanted to play with her kids. As he was

> telling this to me, he was ok until he got to the part when he was

> telling me about her calling him wierd. The look I will never

> forget, the tone in his voice, " She called me wierd, Mom. " he

> sobbed. " I'm not wierd " . He began crying so hard, I just started

> crying with him. " I told her she was being rude, Mom " , " and she just

> said I was the rude one and kept on screaming. "

> Then the anger hit. Both with and with me. " You have to

> protect me, Mom " .

> wanted me to go down there and confront her. I wanted to go

> down there and confront her. In the past, I might have. I was caught

> between not wanting to cause a scene, and feeling like I was letting

> my son down by not causing one.

> If this mother didn't want her children playing with my son, she

> could of said they had gone in for the evening, or were having

> dinner, etc., instead of verbally abusing my son. I understand she

> might feel uncomfortable, but this was unexcusable.

> This is the first of I fear many encounters we may have with others

> that just don't know or care to know of my son's AS. Especially since

> he is starting 7th grade, is beginning to notice girls, and is

> socially " odd or eccentric " , these next 4-6 years I'm sure will be

> hard for him. Was I right in not confronting the other Mom? It

> broke my heart to not tear out the door and say " Hey, my " wierd " son

> is disabled. " And 1 in every 170 kids are now born with a type of

> his disability, so there is a chance you and your kids may come in

> contact with many more " wierdos " in the future. " I thought about

> leaving her a note about Autism/AS in her mailbox, etc. Believe

> me ,many ideas have crossed my mind.

> I want to help my son, but also don't want to cause a confrontation

> everytime. We need to learn how to deal with this as a family.

> cried himself to sleep that night.

> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> Thanks to everyone for " listening "

>

> Grantz

> AJ, AZ

>

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That is a sad story. It upset me. But you know, I have AS too and if

my son is anything like me he will be unable to tell most of the time

when people are giving him crap and when he can tell he won't give a

crap. But we probably won't get that lucky and nothing is sadder than

having a hurt child and not being able to help. I'm sorry.

Amber

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I'm new to the list but need some help or assurance on what happened

> > to my 12 year old son this past week. I have an unfriendly neighbor,

> > and this article just hit home for me this morning.

> > is Aspergers. As we all know, there are many different symptoms

> > of this disorder. I am lucky as usually wants to interact with

> > children and make new friends. (although he flocks to younger kids as

> > they don't " pick up " on his social issues as much) He is very

> > loving, but takes things very literally.

> > sometimes goes outside our yard, and walks around our block,

> > talking to himself about whatever subject he is fixated on at the

> > moment. (For the past 2 weeks its been American Indians and their

> > part in US History) He usually has no shoes on, because he refuses

> > to wear shoes except for school, but his feet never seem to bother

> > him. Sometimes he " shadow-boxes " , punching at the air if he's

> > fixating on becoming the next " HeavyWeight Champion of the World. "

> > He never hurts anyone, just minds his own business, and walks around

> > the neighborhood.

> > A couple nights ago, he came home excited, asking to play " Yatzee "

> > with the kids down the street. They live 3 doors down from us, so I

> > said sure he could, excited for him that he had met some new

> > friends. Of course he rattled off his new friends' names, and

> > assured me he'd be back in a bit.

> > About 15 min later, returned, looking puzzled and so sad. He

> > explained to me that when he went back to the house, the kids had

> > gone inside and never came back out. He waited for them, but they

> > never showed. Then the mother came out and proceeded to yell at him,

> > telling him she wanted him to stay away from her children, that he

> > was " wierd " , and that if he didn't go home she was going to call the

> > cops on him. (on what grounds, I don't know) He advised her he didn't

> > do anything wrong, just wanted to play with her kids. As he was

> > telling this to me, he was ok until he got to the part when he was

> > telling me about her calling him wierd. The look I will never

> > forget, the tone in his voice, " She called me wierd, Mom. " he

> > sobbed. " I'm not wierd " . He began crying so hard, I just started

> > crying with him. " I told her she was being rude, Mom " , " and she just

> > said I was the rude one and kept on screaming. "

> > Then the anger hit. Both with and with me. " You have to

> > protect me, Mom " .

> > wanted me to go down there and confront her. I wanted to go

> > down there and confront her. In the past, I might have. I was caught

> > between not wanting to cause a scene, and feeling like I was letting

> > my son down by not causing one.

> > If this mother didn't want her children playing with my son, she

> > could of said they had gone in for the evening, or were having

> > dinner, etc., instead of verbally abusing my son. I understand she

> > might feel uncomfortable, but this was unexcusable.

> > This is the first of I fear many encounters we may have with others

> > that just don't know or care to know of my son's AS. Especially since

> > he is starting 7th grade, is beginning to notice girls, and is

> > socially " odd or eccentric " , these next 4-6 years I'm sure will be

> > hard for him. Was I right in not confronting the other Mom? It

> > broke my heart to not tear out the door and say " Hey, my " wierd " son

> > is disabled. " And 1 in every 170 kids are now born with a type of

> > his disability, so there is a chance you and your kids may come in

> > contact with many more " wierdos " in the future. " I thought about

> > leaving her a note about Autism/AS in her mailbox, etc. Believe

> > me ,many ideas have crossed my mind.

> > I want to help my son, but also don't want to cause a confrontation

> > everytime. We need to learn how to deal with this as a family.

> > cried himself to sleep that night.

> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> > Thanks to everyone for " listening "

> >

> > Grantz

> > AJ, AZ

> >

>

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Kids in junior high are just plain mean. They're mean whether you've

got Asperger's or whether you don't. My dd was gifted, and different,

and she got grief just the same. got some grief, too. Some of

you have heard this story before, so I beg your indulgence. When

was in high school, he was harrassed constantly by the kid who

sat next to him. One day, the kid said, " You're so ugly that no girl

will ever want to go out with you. " replied, " And you would

know this HOW? " Zing! The kids around him started to laugh, and the

poor kid didn't even know he'd been gotten. Role play some of these

situations with your kids. Sort of social stories for big kids. What

you can say if so and so teases you again. If you can help him come

up with a witty comeback, it helps a lot. Or any prepared response is

good. Just rehearse it. Good luck. Most of us with older kids have

been there.

Liz

On Jul 24, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Amber wrote:

>

>

> That is a sad story. It upset me. But you know, I have AS too and if

> my son is anything like me he will be unable to tell most of the time

> when people are giving him crap and when he can tell he won't give a

> crap. But we probably won't get that lucky and nothing is sadder than

> having a hurt child and not being able to help. I'm sorry.

>

> Amber

>

> > >

> > > Hello everyone,

> > >

> > > I'm new to the list but need some help or assurance on what

> happened

> > > to my 12 year old son this past week. I have an unfriendly

> neighbor,

> > > and this article just hit home for me this morning.

> > > is Aspergers. As we all know, there are many different

> symptoms

> > > of this disorder. I am lucky as usually wants to interact

> with

> > > children and make new friends. (although he flocks to younger

> kids as

> > > they don't " pick up " on his social issues as much) He is very

> > > loving, but takes things very literally.

> > > sometimes goes outside our yard, and walks around our block,

> > > talking to himself about whatever subject he is fixated on at the

> > > moment. (For the past 2 weeks its been American Indians and their

> > > part in US History) He usually has no shoes on, because he refuses

> > > to wear shoes except for school, but his feet never seem to bother

> > > him. Sometimes he " shadow-boxes " , punching at the air if he's

> > > fixating on becoming the next " HeavyWeight Champion of the World. "

> > > He never hurts anyone, just minds his own business, and walks

> around

> > > the neighborhood.

> > > A couple nights ago, he came home excited, asking to play " Yatzee "

> > > with the kids down the street. They live 3 doors down from us,

> so I

> > > said sure he could, excited for him that he had met some new

> > > friends. Of course he rattled off his new friends' names, and

> > > assured me he'd be back in a bit.

> > > About 15 min later, returned, looking puzzled and so sad. He

> > > explained to me that when he went back to the house, the kids had

> > > gone inside and never came back out. He waited for them, but they

> > > never showed. Then the mother came out and proceeded to yell at

> him,

> > > telling him she wanted him to stay away from her children, that he

> > > was " wierd " , and that if he didn't go home she was going to

> call the

> > > cops on him. (on what grounds, I don't know) He advised her he

> didn't

> > > do anything wrong, just wanted to play with her kids. As he was

> > > telling this to me, he was ok until he got to the part when he was

> > > telling me about her calling him wierd. The look I will never

> > > forget, the tone in his voice, " She called me wierd, Mom. " he

> > > sobbed. " I'm not wierd " . He began crying so hard, I just started

> > > crying with him. " I told her she was being rude, Mom " , " and she

> just

> > > said I was the rude one and kept on screaming. "

> > > Then the anger hit. Both with and with me. " You have to

> > > protect me, Mom " .

> > > wanted me to go down there and confront her. I wanted to go

> > > down there and confront her. In the past, I might have. I was

> caught

> > > between not wanting to cause a scene, and feeling like I was

> letting

> > > my son down by not causing one.

> > > If this mother didn't want her children playing with my son, she

> > > could of said they had gone in for the evening, or were having

> > > dinner, etc., instead of verbally abusing my son. I understand she

> > > might feel uncomfortable, but this was unexcusable.

> > > This is the first of I fear many encounters we may have with

> others

> > > that just don't know or care to know of my son's AS. Especially

> since

> > > he is starting 7th grade, is beginning to notice girls, and is

> > > socially " odd or eccentric " , these next 4-6 years I'm sure will be

> > > hard for him. Was I right in not confronting the other Mom? It

> > > broke my heart to not tear out the door and say " Hey, my

> " wierd " son

> > > is disabled. " And 1 in every 170 kids are now born with a type of

> > > his disability, so there is a chance you and your kids may come in

> > > contact with many more " wierdos " in the future. " I thought about

> > > leaving her a note about Autism/AS in her mailbox, etc. Believe

> > > me ,many ideas have crossed my mind.

> > > I want to help my son, but also don't want to cause a

> confrontation

> > > everytime. We need to learn how to deal with this as a family.

>

> > > cried himself to sleep that night.

> > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> > > Thanks to everyone for " listening "

> > >

> > > Grantz

> > > AJ, AZ

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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,

I can really empithize with you and and you " neighbor "

I know your first response is to want to go down and throw rocks at

her until you 'rock her to sleep'

I been there, I have confronted may a neighbor,teacher,stranger

and the only thing that did was make me feel better

Did nothing to change the way the others behaved tword DD

(ugh I am not a good speller hope you can understand what I am saying)

So I tried a new tactict, I tell everyone who comes into contact with

her that Annie has " As, and Schizophrenia "

She is not a danger to anyone so forget what Hollywood tells you about

these ailments and you would not how attitudes have changed DD now has

kids (younger than her of course)who come and ask her to come out and

demostrate her Gymnastics

When we go to the park she draws a croud not because of her odd

behavior but because she is VERY good at Gymnastics (mostly self

tought because she can't take the type of coaching in this sport)

The biggest thing I could offfer you to help is to not embarassed

by 's behavor but to educate your neigbors (and family in some

places) about AS and as we have seen over the past 6 years sense DX

people understand (or pretend to )that they are special needs kids NOT

BAD or " Wierd " !

hope this helps

Robyn &

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I don't know! I am by no means an expert of any kind but I too am fed up with

society and it's lack of understanding for our kids. I think it is really time

to bring this disorder into the limelight. If your son had been visually

impaired I think her attitude would have been different. I personally would

have taken her round some information on aspergers. Your son has a disability

that might impair his social interactions with others, what is her excuse?

Beck

Re: ( ) Re: Unfriendly Neighborhood-My local

story-HELP!!

Kids in junior high are just plain mean. They're mean whether you've

got Asperger's or whether you don't. My dd was gifted, and different,

and she got grief just the same. got some grief, too. Some of

you have heard this story before, so I beg your indulgence. When

was in high school, he was harrassed constantly by the kid who

sat next to him. One day, the kid said, " You're so ugly that no girl

will ever want to go out with you. " replied, " And you would

know this HOW? " Zing! The kids around him started to laugh, and the

poor kid didn't even know he'd been gotten. Role play some of these

situations with your kids. Sort of social stories for big kids. What

you can say if so and so teases you again. If you can help him come

up with a witty comeback, it helps a lot. Or any prepared response is

good. Just rehearse it. Good luck. Most of us with older kids have

been there.

Liz

On Jul 24, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Amber wrote:

>

>

> That is a sad story. It upset me. But you know, I have AS too and if

> my son is anything like me he will be unable to tell most of the time

> when people are giving him crap and when he can tell he won't give a

> crap. But we probably won't get that lucky and nothing is sadder than

> having a hurt child and not being able to help. I'm sorry.

>

> Amber

>

> > >

> > > Hello everyone,

> > >

> > > I'm new to the list but need some help or assurance on what

> happened

> > > to my 12 year old son this past week. I have an unfriendly

> neighbor,

> > > and this article just hit home for me this morning.

> > > is Aspergers. As we all know, there are many different

> symptoms

> > > of this disorder. I am lucky as usually wants to interact

> with

> > > children and make new friends. (although he flocks to younger

> kids as

> > > they don't " pick up " on his social issues as much) He is very

> > > loving, but takes things very literally.

> > > sometimes goes outside our yard, and walks around our block,

> > > talking to himself about whatever subject he is fixated on at the

> > > moment. (For the past 2 weeks its been American Indians and their

> > > part in US History) He usually has no shoes on, because he refuses

> > > to wear shoes except for school, but his feet never seem to bother

> > > him. Sometimes he " shadow-boxes " , punching at the air if he's

> > > fixating on becoming the next " HeavyWeight Champion of the World. "

> > > He never hurts anyone, just minds his own business, and walks

> around

> > > the neighborhood.

> > > A couple nights ago, he came home excited, asking to play " Yatzee "

> > > with the kids down the street. They live 3 doors down from us,

> so I

> > > said sure he could, excited for him that he had met some new

> > > friends. Of course he rattled off his new friends' names, and

> > > assured me he'd be back in a bit.

> > > About 15 min later, returned, looking puzzled and so sad. He

> > > explained to me that when he went back to the house, the kids had

> > > gone inside and never came back out. He waited for them, but they

> > > never showed. Then the mother came out and proceeded to yell at

> him,

> > > telling him she wanted him to stay away from her children, that he

> > > was " wierd " , and that if he didn't go home she was going to

> call the

> > > cops on him. (on what grounds, I don't know) He advised her he

> didn't

> > > do anything wrong, just wanted to play with her kids. As he was

> > > telling this to me, he was ok until he got to the part when he was

> > > telling me about her calling him wierd. The look I will never

> > > forget, the tone in his voice, " She called me wierd, Mom. " he

> > > sobbed. " I'm not wierd " . He began crying so hard, I just started

> > > crying with him. " I told her she was being rude, Mom " , " and she

> just

> > > said I was the rude one and kept on screaming. "

> > > Then the anger hit. Both with and with me. " You have to

> > > protect me, Mom " .

> > > wanted me to go down there and confront her. I wanted to go

> > > down there and confront her. In the past, I might have. I was

> caught

> > > between not wanting to cause a scene, and feeling like I was

> letting

> > > my son down by not causing one.

> > > If this mother didn't want her children playing with my son, she

> > > could of said they had gone in for the evening, or were having

> > > dinner, etc., instead of verbally abusing my son. I understand she

> > > might feel uncomfortable, but this was unexcusable.

> > > This is the first of I fear many encounters we may have with

> others

> > > that just don't know or care to know of my son's AS. Especially

> since

> > > he is starting 7th grade, is beginning to notice girls, and is

> > > socially " odd or eccentric " , these next 4-6 years I'm sure will be

> > > hard for him. Was I right in not confronting the other Mom? It

> > > broke my heart to not tear out the door and say " Hey, my

> " wierd " son

> > > is disabled. " And 1 in every 170 kids are now born with a type of

> > > his disability, so there is a chance you and your kids may come in

> > > contact with many more " wierdos " in the future. " I thought about

> > > leaving her a note about Autism/AS in her mailbox, etc. Believe

> > > me ,many ideas have crossed my mind.

> > > I want to help my son, but also don't want to cause a

> confrontation

> > > everytime. We need to learn how to deal with this as a family.

>

> > > cried himself to sleep that night.

> > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> > > Thanks to everyone for " listening "

> > >

> > > Grantz

> > > AJ, AZ

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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I must live in your neighborhood!

Here is what happened about one month ago. My ds (9 yo, HFA) wanted to go next

door and play with the little girl who lives there. She is one of the few who

are " allowed " to play with my ds. So he goes over and then comes back crying

and upset. Seems another neighbor kid was there already and told my ds that he

can't play with them because her mother doesn't allow them to play with him.

This is the first year that any of this has ever registered with my ds. Before

that, he would just shrug and leave and not realize he was being put down or

teased or made to feel inferior in some way. So now he gets it and he was upset

and I was trying to calm him down. We get this every year so I am used to it.

It does no good to talk to any of them, which I know from years of doing that.

Well, then my 14 yo dd comes out and says, " What's wrong? " I tell her what

happened and she totally goes crazy on me. She says, " This is just not going to

happen again this year! This is the year it stops! " and off she marches. Now,

what one should know is that my dd is a quiet girl, very Aspie-on-the-edges. So

this was way unlike her. I just shrugged and figured she would give up before

she got to their front door. But she did not give up. And she asked the mother

just what was so wrong with her brother that she won't let her kids play with

him.

Well, the mother had no idea that the kids were saying that to our son. She ran

down to our house and apologized and had her dd come over and apologize to our

son. Turns out she is a speech therapist and works with kids just like this. I

guess the neighbor kids just all do this to my son and don't even think about

why they are doing it -it's just the way it is done.

Well, anyway, things are not magically better here. But they are better.

Nobody is outright rude to him and a few kids are actually playing with him

sometimes that were not before. So I would have to say it went well.

I've had it go not so well before too. Some people just can't get over their

high opinion of themselves and they don't care why your kid is weird. But I

would go talk to the mom and tell her that if she has any problems, she should

come to you and not scream at a little kid. I'm sure she would want the same if

her kids are doing something and need to be talked to.

Roxanna

( ) Unfriendly Neighborhood-My local story-HELP!!

Hello everyone,

I'm new to the list but need some help or assurance on what happened

to my 12 year old son this past week. I have an unfriendly neighbor,

and this article just hit home for me this morning.

is Aspergers. As we all know, there are many different symptoms

of this disorder. I am lucky as usually wants to interact with

children and make new friends. (although he flocks to younger kids as

they don't " pick up " on his social issues as much) He is very

loving, but takes things very literally.

sometimes goes outside our yard, and walks around our block,

talking to himself about whatever subject he is fixated on at the

moment. (For the past 2 weeks its been American Indians and their

part in US History) He usually has no shoes on, because he refuses

to wear shoes except for school, but his feet never seem to bother

him. Sometimes he " shadow-boxes " , punching at the air if he's

fixating on becoming the next " HeavyWeight Champion of the World. "

He never hurts anyone, just minds his own business, and walks around

the neighborhood.

A couple nights ago, he came home excited, asking to play " Yatzee "

with the kids down the street. They live 3 doors down from us, so I

said sure he could, excited for him that he had met some new

friends. Of course he rattled off his new friends' names, and

assured me he'd be back in a bit.

About 15 min later, returned, looking puzzled and so sad. He

explained to me that when he went back to the house, the kids had

gone inside and never came back out. He waited for them, but they

never showed. Then the mother came out and proceeded to yell at him,

telling him she wanted him to stay away from her children, that he

was " wierd " , and that if he didn't go home she was going to call the

cops on him. (on what grounds, I don't know) He advised her he didn't

do anything wrong, just wanted to play with her kids. As he was

telling this to me, he was ok until he got to the part when he was

telling me about her calling him wierd. The look I will never

forget, the tone in his voice, " She called me wierd, Mom. " he

sobbed. " I'm not wierd " . He began crying so hard, I just started

crying with him. " I told her she was being rude, Mom " , " and she just

said I was the rude one and kept on screaming. "

Then the anger hit. Both with and with me. " You have to

protect me, Mom " .

wanted me to go down there and confront her. I wanted to go

down there and confront her. In the past, I might have. I was caught

between not wanting to cause a scene, and feeling like I was letting

my son down by not causing one.

If this mother didn't want her children playing with my son, she

could of said they had gone in for the evening, or were having

dinner, etc., instead of verbally abusing my son. I understand she

might feel uncomfortable, but this was unexcusable.

This is the first of I fear many encounters we may have with others

that just don't know or care to know of my son's AS. Especially since

he is starting 7th grade, is beginning to notice girls, and is

socially " odd or eccentric " , these next 4-6 years I'm sure will be

hard for him. Was I right in not confronting the other Mom? It

broke my heart to not tear out the door and say " Hey, my " wierd " son

is disabled. " And 1 in every 170 kids are now born with a type of

his disability, so there is a chance you and your kids may come in

contact with many more " wierdos " in the future. " I thought about

leaving her a note about Autism/AS in her mailbox, etc. Believe

me ,many ideas have crossed my mind.

I want to help my son, but also don't want to cause a confrontation

everytime. We need to learn how to deal with this as a family.

cried himself to sleep that night.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to everyone for " listening "

Grantz

AJ, AZ

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Totally awesome! WAY TO GO! Somebody has been taking lessons from her

kick-@$$ mother. I am touched that she felt so irate on her brother's

behalf. That's wonderful when that happens. My daughter has become a

fierce advocate for my son, too. Usually it is against me. Liz

On Jul 26, 2006, at 8:30 AM, Roxanna wrote:

> I must live in your neighborhood!

> Here is what happened about one month ago. My ds (9 yo, HFA) wanted

> to go next door and play with the little girl who lives there. She

> is one of the few who are " allowed " to play with my ds. So he goes

> over and then comes back crying and upset. Seems another neighbor

> kid was there already and told my ds that he can't play with them

> because her mother doesn't allow them to play with him.

>

> This is the first year that any of this has ever registered with my

> ds. Before that, he would just shrug and leave and not realize he

> was being put down or teased or made to feel inferior in some way.

> So now he gets it and he was upset and I was trying to calm him

> down. We get this every year so I am used to it. It does no good to

> talk to any of them, which I know from years of doing that.

>

> Well, then my 14 yo dd comes out and says, " What's wrong? " I tell

> her what happened and she totally goes crazy on me. She says, " This

> is just not going to happen again this year! This is the year it

> stops! " and off she marches. Now, what one should know is that my

> dd is a quiet girl, very Aspie-on-the-edges. So this was way unlike

> her. I just shrugged and figured she would give up before she got

> to their front door. But she did not give up. And she asked the

> mother just what was so wrong with her brother that she won't let

> her kids play with him.

>

> Well, the mother had no idea that the kids were saying that to our

> son. She ran down to our house and apologized and had her dd come

> over and apologize to our son. Turns out she is a speech therapist

> and works with kids just like this. I guess the neighbor kids just

> all do this to my son and don't even think about why they are doing

> it -it's just the way it is done.

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Yikes! I didn't think of that - she could turn her evil powers against me!

LOL. I have to say I was proud/am proud of her. She is usually not so

outgoing! But it did work well this time.

Roxanna

Re: ( ) Unfriendly Neighborhood-My local story-HELP!!

Totally awesome! WAY TO GO! Somebody has been taking lessons from her

kick-@$$ mother. I am touched that she felt so irate on her brother's

behalf. That's wonderful when that happens. My daughter has become a

fierce advocate for my son, too. Usually it is against me. Liz

On Jul 26, 2006, at 8:30 AM, Roxanna wrote:

> I must live in your neighborhood!

> Here is what happened about one month ago. My ds (9 yo, HFA) wanted

> to go next door and play with the little girl who lives there. She

> is one of the few who are " allowed " to play with my ds. So he goes

> over and then comes back crying and upset. Seems another neighbor

> kid was there already and told my ds that he can't play with them

> because her mother doesn't allow them to play with him.

>

> This is the first year that any of this has ever registered with my

> ds. Before that, he would just shrug and leave and not realize he

> was being put down or teased or made to feel inferior in some way.

> So now he gets it and he was upset and I was trying to calm him

> down. We get this every year so I am used to it. It does no good to

> talk to any of them, which I know from years of doing that.

>

> Well, then my 14 yo dd comes out and says, " What's wrong? " I tell

> her what happened and she totally goes crazy on me. She says, " This

> is just not going to happen again this year! This is the year it

> stops! " and off she marches. Now, what one should know is that my

> dd is a quiet girl, very Aspie-on-the-edges. So this was way unlike

> her. I just shrugged and figured she would give up before she got

> to their front door. But she did not give up. And she asked the

> mother just what was so wrong with her brother that she won't let

> her kids play with him.

>

> Well, the mother had no idea that the kids were saying that to our

> son. She ran down to our house and apologized and had her dd come

> over and apologize to our son. Turns out she is a speech therapist

> and works with kids just like this. I guess the neighbor kids just

> all do this to my son and don't even think about why they are doing

> it -it's just the way it is done.

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This made me cry. I'm so sorry this happened to your son. sounds like a

resilient kid, though, if he wanted to confront that woman. I guess I think you

should go ahead and do so! I respect you for waiting, for cooling down first,

and for trying to control the impulse, but what's the down side? I guess I

would let her know that your son has AS and that what she said was extremely

hurtful to him. I don't know if you'll change that woman, but maybe you'll feel

better?

maryberryrls2 <maryberryrls@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm new to the list but need some help or assurance on what happened

to my 12 year old son this past week. I have an unfriendly neighbor,

and this article just hit home for me this morning.

is Aspergers. As we all know, there are many different symptoms

of this disorder. I am lucky as usually wants to interact with

children and make new friends. (although he flocks to younger kids as

they don't " pick up " on his social issues as much) He is very

loving, but takes things very literally.

sometimes goes outside our yard, and walks around our block,

talking to himself about whatever subject he is fixated on at the

moment. (For the past 2 weeks its been American Indians and their

part in US History) He usually has no shoes on, because he refuses

to wear shoes except for school, but his feet never seem to bother

him. Sometimes he " shadow-boxes " , punching at the air if he's

fixating on becoming the next " HeavyWeight Champion of the World. "

He never hurts anyone, just minds his own business, and walks around

the neighborhood.

A couple nights ago, he came home excited, asking to play " Yatzee "

with the kids down the street. They live 3 doors down from us, so I

said sure he could, excited for him that he had met some new

friends. Of course he rattled off his new friends' names, and

assured me he'd be back in a bit.

About 15 min later, returned, looking puzzled and so sad. He

explained to me that when he went back to the house, the kids had

gone inside and never came back out. He waited for them, but they

never showed. Then the mother came out and proceeded to yell at him,

telling him she wanted him to stay away from her children, that he

was " wierd " , and that if he didn't go home she was going to call the

cops on him. (on what grounds, I don't know) He advised her he didn't

do anything wrong, just wanted to play with her kids. As he was

telling this to me, he was ok until he got to the part when he was

telling me about her calling him wierd. The look I will never

forget, the tone in his voice, " She called me wierd, Mom. " he

sobbed. " I'm not wierd " . He began crying so hard, I just started

crying with him. " I told her she was being rude, Mom " , " and she just

said I was the rude one and kept on screaming. "

Then the anger hit. Both with and with me. " You have to

protect me, Mom " .

wanted me to go down there and confront her. I wanted to go

down there and confront her. In the past, I might have. I was caught

between not wanting to cause a scene, and feeling like I was letting

my son down by not causing one.

If this mother didn't want her children playing with my son, she

could of said they had gone in for the evening, or were having

dinner, etc., instead of verbally abusing my son. I understand she

might feel uncomfortable, but this was unexcusable.

This is the first of I fear many encounters we may have with others

that just don't know or care to know of my son's AS. Especially since

he is starting 7th grade, is beginning to notice girls, and is

socially " odd or eccentric " , these next 4-6 years I'm sure will be

hard for him. Was I right in not confronting the other Mom? It

broke my heart to not tear out the door and say " Hey, my " wierd " son

is disabled. " And 1 in every 170 kids are now born with a type of

his disability, so there is a chance you and your kids may come in

contact with many more " wierdos " in the future. " I thought about

leaving her a note about Autism/AS in her mailbox, etc. Believe

me ,many ideas have crossed my mind.

I want to help my son, but also don't want to cause a confrontation

everytime. We need to learn how to deal with this as a family.

cried himself to sleep that night.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to everyone for " listening "

Grantz

AJ, AZ

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In a message dated 8/11/2006 7:07:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

cathrob@... writes:

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to everyone for " listening "

We went though the same thing when my son was younger, he was always being

called weird, I tried to explain to him that, everyone is different so just

ignore these comments, kids down the block would not play with him, he cried

most of the time he was shunned by the neighborhood kids I know what you are

going though. Talking to the parents was useless they did not care what my son

had nor did they want their kids playing with him, I have to tell you he is

now 16 and all that happened to him when he was 11 or 12 he forgot about yes I

remembered but he did not. He is friendly with all the kids now, he is not

called weird anymore he has grown up and learned how to act more " NL " . He

understands he has AS and accepts his differences but he states he had to change

and that took him time to understand what the social norms was, but he

learned, he is still that different teen but not shunned anymore and very much

respected now. Hope this helps.

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My first inclination would have been to confront that woman and rip

her a new one. She behaved extremely inappropriately and abusively in

calling your son a name; this dysfunctional twit doesn't seem to grasp

that she is an adult and your son is a child, and that such

name-calling, done without any real provocation, can be very damaging.

But the problem of course, is that this woman is more or less about as

mature, maybe less so, than her own children, which is why she can

feel so threatened by other children to the point of lashing out at

them.

Still, for the sake of your son's sense of well-being and self-esteem,

I believe you should confront this woman. Your son needs to know that

he has a mother who will stand up and defend him. By doing so he will

eventually be inclined to stand up for himself, and have a healthy

sense of his own boundaries, rather than becoming someone who will

wind up in an abusive relationship simply because the abuser is kind

to him for about five minutes every three months.

Rick

> maryberryrls2 <maryberryrls@...> wrote:

> Hello everyone,

>

> I'm new to the list but need some help or assurance on what happened

> to my 12 year old son this past week. I have an unfriendly neighbor,

> and this article just hit home for me this morning.

> is Aspergers. As we all know, there are many different symptoms

> of this disorder. I am lucky as usually wants to interact with

> children and make new friends. (although he flocks to younger kids as

> they don't " pick up " on his social issues as much) He is very

> loving, but takes things very literally.

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DITTO DITTO!

(Oh great<:[ I agree with you!! I am just kidding when I say that.

I am being silly, ok?);)

yes I do agree with what you just told her IN ENTIRETY (That doesn't

look right?!)

*grin*

lisa b

>

> My first inclination would have been to confront that woman and rip

> her a new one. She behaved extremely inappropriately and abusively

in

> calling your son a name; this dysfunctional twit doesn't seem to

grasp

> that she is an adult and your son is a child, and that such

> name-calling, done without any real provocation, can be very

damaging.

> But the problem of course, is that this woman is more or less

about as

> mature, maybe less so, than her own children, which is why she can

> feel so threatened by other children to the point of lashing out at

> them.

>

> Still, for the sake of your son's sense of well-being and self-

esteem,

> I believe you should confront this woman. Your son needs to know

that

> he has a mother who will stand up and defend him. By doing so he

will

> eventually be inclined to stand up for himself, and have a healthy

> sense of his own boundaries, rather than becoming someone who will

> wind up in an abusive relationship simply because the abuser is

kind

> to him for about five minutes every three months.

>

> Rick

>

>

> >

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This just breaks my heart!! No child should have to cry themselves

to sleep :(

We are really lucky that all the kids in our neighborhood are nice

kids.

Except one. He is a nasty bully right next door. He seems to only

pick on my Aspie son. I think he has problems of his own. But I am

not sure what. My son seems to shrug it off and ignore him for now,

but I don't know how much longer that will go on as he gets older.

I guess I would try to talk to this mom after I had calmed down and

if she doesn't respond well, then she is a jerk.

We have 2 boys down the street who are also AS that my son plays

with. The older one was mad because my SD had called him my

DS's 'weird little friend'. Fortunately his mom was understanding &

said that is something older sister's sometimes say about their

little brother's friends. I said 'hey, there is nothing wrong with

being weird. The ourlastname's are proud of being weird.' And I

could tell he took it to heart.

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I'm new to the list but need some help or assurance on what

happened

> to my 12 year old son this past week. I have an unfriendly

neighbor,

> and this article just hit home for me this morning.

> is Aspergers. As we all know, there are many different

symptoms

> of this disorder. I am lucky as usually wants to interact

with

> children and make new friends. (although he flocks to younger kids

as

> they don't " pick up " on his social issues as much) He is very

> loving, but takes things very literally.

> sometimes goes outside our yard, and walks around our block,

> talking to himself about whatever subject he is fixated on at the

> moment. (For the past 2 weeks its been American Indians and their

> part in US History) He usually has no shoes on, because he

refuses

> to wear shoes except for school, but his feet never seem to bother

> him. Sometimes he " shadow-boxes " , punching at the air if he's

> fixating on becoming the next " HeavyWeight Champion of the

World. "

> He never hurts anyone, just minds his own business, and walks

around

> the neighborhood.

> A couple nights ago, he came home excited, asking to play " Yatzee "

> with the kids down the street. They live 3 doors down from us, so

I

> said sure he could, excited for him that he had met some new

> friends. Of course he rattled off his new friends' names, and

> assured me he'd be back in a bit.

> About 15 min later, returned, looking puzzled and so sad. He

> explained to me that when he went back to the house, the kids had

> gone inside and never came back out. He waited for them, but they

> never showed. Then the mother came out and proceeded to yell at

him,

> telling him she wanted him to stay away from her children, that he

> was " wierd " , and that if he didn't go home she was going to call

the

> cops on him. (on what grounds, I don't know) He advised her he

didn't

> do anything wrong, just wanted to play with her kids. As he was

> telling this to me, he was ok until he got to the part when he was

> telling me about her calling him wierd. The look I will never

> forget, the tone in his voice, " She called me wierd, Mom. " he

> sobbed. " I'm not wierd " . He began crying so hard, I just started

> crying with him. " I told her she was being rude, Mom " , " and she

just

> said I was the rude one and kept on screaming. "

> Then the anger hit. Both with and with me. " You have to

> protect me, Mom " .

> wanted me to go down there and confront her. I wanted to go

> down there and confront her. In the past, I might have. I was

caught

> between not wanting to cause a scene, and feeling like I was

letting

> my son down by not causing one.

> If this mother didn't want her children playing with my son, she

> could of said they had gone in for the evening, or were having

> dinner, etc., instead of verbally abusing my son. I understand she

> might feel uncomfortable, but this was unexcusable.

> This is the first of I fear many encounters we may have with

others

> that just don't know or care to know of my son's AS. Especially

since

> he is starting 7th grade, is beginning to notice girls, and is

> socially " odd or eccentric " , these next 4-6 years I'm sure will be

> hard for him. Was I right in not confronting the other Mom? It

> broke my heart to not tear out the door and say " Hey, my " wierd "

son

> is disabled. " And 1 in every 170 kids are now born with a type of

> his disability, so there is a chance you and your kids may come in

> contact with many more " wierdos " in the future. " I thought about

> leaving her a note about Autism/AS in her mailbox, etc. Believe

> me ,many ideas have crossed my mind.

> I want to help my son, but also don't want to cause a

confrontation

> everytime. We need to learn how to deal with this as a family.

> cried himself to sleep that night.

> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> Thanks to everyone for " listening "

>

> Grantz

> AJ, AZ

>

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I would tell her that I would like her to STAY AWAY from my son. That she

lacks compassion - I wouldn't want her to speak to him at all. Screaming is

child abuse - you would have a better reason to call the cops than her.

Make her aware of that - make her think next time she acts that way.

I guess I am a little harsh at times - I would not yet at her - just let her

know in a firm, calm tone that you won't take your son being attacked that

way. You are right, there are many other ways she could have reacted that

would not have hurt and scared him. OR any child.

Kathy K

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story-HELP!!

In a message dated 8/11/2006 7:07:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

cathrobsbcglobal (DOT) <mailto:cathrob%40sbcglobal.net> net writes:

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to everyone for " listening "

We went though the same thing when my son was younger, he was always being

called weird, I tried to explain to him that, everyone is different so just

ignore these comments, kids down the block would not play with him, he cried

most of the time he was shunned by the neighborhood kids I know what you are

going though. Talking to the parents was useless they did not care what my

son

had nor did they want their kids playing with him, I have to tell you he is

now 16 and all that happened to him when he was 11 or 12 he forgot about yes

I

remembered but he did not. He is friendly with all the kids now, he is not

called weird anymore he has grown up and learned how to act more " NL " . He

understands he has AS and accepts his differences but he states he had to

change

and that took him time to understand what the social norms was, but he

learned, he is still that different teen but not shunned anymore and very

much

respected now. Hope this helps.

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