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Sounds familiar. When he's angry, my 11 year old says the first

thing that pops into his head. Usually that involves explosions and

bazookas. Not the greatest things to say in a school environment

these days! Luckily the school knows that he is just spouting off

and isn't making a real threat. We just keep working on it, giving

him appropriate things to say instead. And we practice it when he

isn't angry. It's gotten better but still happens from time to

time. I also make a real point to have him watch those news

broadcasts when students are arrested for making threats. Then we

talk about the similarities of what he says and the things those

kids on the news did.

I hear that depression is common with aspie kids. Seems like

everything they do & say is wrong so I guess I would be depressed

too. I try real hard to point out the stuff he does right. It's

hard though since we take it for granted that they should say & do

the right things all the time. Seems a bit silly sometimes to

say " Oh , that was a real nice thing you said.... " but It's all

I can think of doing.

>

> My son Connor who just turned 8, has been having more and more

> meltdowns lately and I am starting to believe there is a lot of

> confusion and anxiety surrounding him. It seems the older he gets

> the worse it gets. He already has a hard time expressing his

anger

> and the only way he seems to express it is by hitting or making

> threats. I consistently tell him, " Connor use your words " The

> other day I asked him how his day was at day camp and of course I

> get the usual response of " fine " and then I asked him a more

> specific question like " Well what did you do? " He said this boy

was

> teasing him, so he said if he didn't stop teasing him he would get

a

> ball bat and hit him! I was shocked!!!! He never made threats

like

> that before. Obvibously, I told him that was not the appropriate

> way to handle matters and when someone is teasing you, you need to

> go tell an adult. After that, I cried in the bathroom until there

> were no more tears to cry. Connor is a very compassionate child,

I

> know he would never intentionally hurt someone. Lately, he has

> become more withdrawn and unhappy. My husband, family and I show

> him all the love he can stand. I never go one day without giving

> him a huge hug and a I love you. At this point, I feel helpless

> like there is nothing else I can do but give him unconditional

> love. Is there any pointers out there? I am at my wits end! Do

> any of you have experiences like this? Thanks, Tonya

>

> Connor 8, DX ADHD,HFA

> a handsome, smart and artisic child.

>

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Hi Tonya,

I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son has always been

very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week he has had an overnight

change. He threatened to stab somebody with a pencil because they were being

mean. He also got fed up and bit an older boy at the spray park for making fun

of him. I understand his frustration with being made fun of. But it shocked me

to see my child lashing out this way. I have also cried till there was nothing

left. I am wondering if anyone else has experienced things progressively getting

worse. My son's clothing aversions and his need to line things up are getting

stronger. I have also noticed that he has become more adamant about his distaste

for the colour pink. It used to be that he wouldn't wear it and now he won't eat

pink candy or have anything to do with it. I don't understand and am wondering

if anyone else experiences these changes and problems. Sorry that I have no

advise to give Tonya but I find it comforting to know that I am not alone, I

hope you do as well.

( ) aggression and meltdowns as they get older

My son Connor who just turned 8, has been having more and more

meltdowns lately and I am starting to believe there is a lot of

confusion and anxiety surrounding him. It seems the older he gets

the worse it gets. He already has a hard time expressing his anger

and the only way he seems to express it is by hitting or making

threats. I consistently tell him, " Connor use your words " The

other day I asked him how his day was at day camp and of course I

get the usual response of " fine " and then I asked him a more

specific question like " Well what did you do? " He said this boy was

teasing him, so he said if he didn't stop teasing him he would get a

ball bat and hit him! I was shocked!!!! He never made threats like

that before. Obvibously, I told him that was not the appropriate

way to handle matters and when someone is teasing you, you need to

go tell an adult. After that, I cried in the bathroom until there

were no more tears to cry. Connor is a very compassionate child, I

know he would never intentionally hurt someone. Lately, he has

become more withdrawn and unhappy. My husband, family and I show

him all the love he can stand. I never go one day without giving

him a huge hug and a I love you. At this point, I feel helpless

like there is nothing else I can do but give him unconditional

love. Is there any pointers out there? I am at my wits end! Do

any of you have experiences like this? Thanks, Tonya

Connor 8, DX ADHD,HFA

a handsome, smart and artisic child.

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We experience similar things with our son (almost 7). The last two

weeks of school, for example, he was not at all the sweet and polite

boy he usually is. He bit two of his classmates, told another one he

hated him, and started calling them names that rhymed with their

names (pretty amusing and not anything nasty, but still very

inappropriate). He had never done that much before or had such a

long meltdown. We associated it with his difficulties expressing his

anxiety because the school year was ending, and his teacher had gone

on maternity leave. The grumpiness of the substitute teacher didn't

help much either.

Perhaps, as they grow older they are more aware of the real world

and they experience more stress and anxiety, and kids that are

angels otherwise, have sometimes difficulties coping with it. We

often feel that the more our son gets exposed to the social world

and to communications (mass media, computer games, etc.,), the more

sources of frustrations he finds. This week I actually caught myself

longing for the rural upbringing I had... it was so much simpler to

grow up like that.

Every time he succesfully sorts out a social challenge (like every

week of summer camp) we feel great relief, and we credit our work

helping him with his AS. It might be undeserved credit, but it feels

really well :-) so what the heck!

Have a great day. F

>

> Hi Tonya,

> I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son has

always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week he

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I wish I could say that aggression and meltdowns minimize with age,

but I personally can't.

I have a 14-year old son who was diagnosed with autism at age 2 and

then Asperger's at age 9. My son is almost 6 feet tall with a chest

as broad as a football player. You can imagine what a meltdown is

like with a child like that especially in public. I wish someone

could help with this.

I've met some parents of Asperger's childern who say that meltdowns

are a rarity and their children are quite pleasant. I hope that is

the norm.

My son is often mistaken for an adult when we're out in public and

he has the tendency to frighten some people. The good thing about

meltdowns when they're young (if that is a good thing) is that they

usually can be more easily removed from a situation. Moving my son

is like moving a rock. :-)

I think the key is finding ways to sooth them without allowing them

to manipulate the situation with their aggression. That is a fine

line to walk.

Good luck and if you find any suggestions regarding this exhausting

topic, please let me know.

> >

> > Hi Tonya,

> > I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son

has

> always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week

he

>

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Thanks for the reply. I agree with you, I think a lot of it has to do with

stressful situations as well as new things daily to deal with as they get older.

I am hoping that it doesn't continually progress. If it does I guess it's a

bridge we will cross when we get there.

Thanks again:)

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We experience similar things with our son (almost 7). The last two

weeks of school, for example, he was not at all the sweet and polite

boy he usually is. He bit two of his classmates, told another one he

hated him, and started calling them names that rhymed with their

names (pretty amusing and not anything nasty, but still very

inappropriate). He had never done that much before or had such a

long meltdown. We associated it with his difficulties expressing his

anxiety because the school year was ending, and his teacher had gone

on maternity leave. The grumpiness of the substitute teacher didn't

help much either.

Perhaps, as they grow older they are more aware of the real world

and they experience more stress and anxiety, and kids that are

angels otherwise, have sometimes difficulties coping with it. We

often feel that the more our son gets exposed to the social world

and to communications (mass media, computer games, etc.,), the more

sources of frustrations he finds. This week I actually caught myself

longing for the rural upbringing I had... it was so much simpler to

grow up like that.

Every time he succesfully sorts out a social challenge (like every

week of summer camp) we feel great relief, and we credit our work

helping him with his AS. It might be undeserved credit, but it feels

really well :-) so what the heck!

Have a great day. F

>

> Hi Tonya,

> I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son has

always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week he

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Well, I would probably suggest you find a social skill group so he can start

practicing his skills and learn what to do in those situations.

Roxanna ôô

“If you’ve told a child a thousand times and he still does not understand,

then it is not the child who is the slow learner.”

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Subject: ( ) aggression and meltdowns as they get older

My son Connor who just turned 8, has been having more and more

meltdowns lately and I am starting to believe there is a lot of

confusion and anxiety surrounding him. It seems the older he gets

the worse it gets. He already has a hard time expressing his anger

and the only way he seems to express it is by hitting or making

threats. I consistently tell him, " Connor use your words " The

other day I asked him how his day was at day camp and of course I

get the usual response of " fine " and then I asked him a more

specific question like " Well what did you do? " He said this boy was

teasing him, so he said if he didn't stop teasing him he would get a

ball bat and hit him! I was shocked!!!! He never made threats like

that before. Obvibously, I told him that was not the appropriate

way to handle matters and when someone is teasing you, you need to

go tell an adult. After that, I cried in the bathroom until there

were no more tears to cry. Connor is a very compassionate child, I

know he would never intentionally hurt someone. Lately, he has

become more withdrawn and unhappy. My husband, family and I show

him all the love he can stand. I never go one day without giving

him a huge hug and a I love you. At this point, I feel helpless

like there is nothing else I can do but give him unconditional

love. Is there any pointers out there? I am at my wits end! Do

any of you have experiences like this? Thanks, Tonya

Connor 8, DX ADHD,HFA

a handsome, smart and artisic child.

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Wow! He is a big boy! I fear that my son will be hard for me to handle as he

gets older. He is only five now but he is huge! He wears size 8 clothes. My

husband is 6'1 and over 300 lbs so I assume he is following along. I just fear

that someday I will not be able to do anything. Right now I am able to talk him

out of meltdowns or remove him to a quiet environment. I just wish I knew if

there was something specifically triggering him to become more aggressive. He

has never been aggressive towards me but he is a lot with my husband and with

boys who are about 10-12 years old at parks. I haven't been given any info about

any types of therapy's or anything. I got the dx and they said okay well then

good luck and we will talk to you again in a few months. So I am lost as to what

to do now. I hear so many of you talking about O.T'S AND S.T's and socialization

things and I am not sure if these are things we will be signed up for in the

next visit or if I should be doing it myself. I did get him an aid for social

problems at school. Academically he excels. He is very intelligent and is in the

french program but can not problem solve with friends or transition to new

activities. So she will help him through without him knowing that she is there

as his aid. She will be introduced as the teacher's aid. But that is about as

far as I got. And I really have no idea what else to do. The more I read about

things and older AS kids the more worried I get. Does anyone have any advise on

what to do now? What groups should I be involving him in ect. Thanks. You are

all so helpful! I love being part of this group. It feels so nice to be able to

openly talk and have people really know what I am talking about.

( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns as they get older

I wish I could say that aggression and meltdowns minimize with age,

but I personally can't.

I have a 14-year old son who was diagnosed with autism at age 2 and

then Asperger's at age 9. My son is almost 6 feet tall with a chest

as broad as a football player. You can imagine what a meltdown is

like with a child like that especially in public. I wish someone

could help with this.

I've met some parents of Asperger's childern who say that meltdowns

are a rarity and their children are quite pleasant. I hope that is

the norm.

My son is often mistaken for an adult when we're out in public and

he has the tendency to frighten some people. The good thing about

meltdowns when they're young (if that is a good thing) is that they

usually can be more easily removed from a situation. Moving my son

is like moving a rock. :-)

I think the key is finding ways to sooth them without allowing them

to manipulate the situation with their aggression. That is a fine

line to walk.

Good luck and if you find any suggestions regarding this exhausting

topic, please let me know.

> >

> > Hi Tonya,

> > I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son

has

> always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week

he

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Unfortunately I can relate to that, although meltdowns and outbursts have

decreased in frequency, they haven't decreased in intensity, and it looks

totally different when it is a big boy like that (mine is 13 and as strong

as 5 adult men). So even if he did nothing during his outbursts, it looks

frightening , and unfortunately he does occasionally lash out on the one who

brought on the outburst. He is on meds, that I assume helped the frequency,

but I am still praying for the right solution, it is clear to me that we can

think of his future as a success only if he finds a way to overcome this.

( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns as they get older

I wish I could say that aggression and meltdowns minimize with age,

but I personally can't.

I have a 14-year old son who was diagnosed with autism at age 2 and

then Asperger's at age 9. My son is almost 6 feet tall with a chest

as broad as a football player. You can imagine what a meltdown is

like with a child like that especially in public. I wish someone

could help with this.

I've met some parents of Asperger's childern who say that meltdowns

are a rarity and their children are quite pleasant. I hope that is

the norm.

My son is often mistaken for an adult when we're out in public and

he has the tendency to frighten some people. The good thing about

meltdowns when they're young (if that is a good thing) is that they

usually can be more easily removed from a situation. Moving my son

is like moving a rock. :-)

I think the key is finding ways to sooth them without allowing them

to manipulate the situation with their aggression. That is a fine

line to walk.

Good luck and if you find any suggestions regarding this exhausting

topic, please let me know.

> >

> > Hi Tonya,

> > I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son

has

> always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week

he

>

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I too can relate. My kids are 6'1 " and just yesterday

n got upset because I took the computer & playstation

cords because he was not doing his virtual school that we

payed 600 dollars we didn't have for. He got out the butcher

knife and started stabbing the boxes in the pantry. which is

a great improvement around here as he would usually stick it

in his stomach and say he was going to hurt himself. I jsut

said n quit stabbing the cracker box, you're going to

make the crackers stale and put that thing up and

surprisingly, he did. And I didn't mention it again and he

calmed down. He also did two units even thought he is *only*

7 behind... If anyone wants to know how to walk on

eggshells, I am becoming an expert :( Toni

>

>

> Unfortunately I can relate to that, although meltdowns and

> outbursts have decreased in frequency, they haven't

> decreased in intensity, and it looks totally different

> when it is a big boy like that (mine is 13 and as strong

> as 5 adult men). So even if he did nothing during his

> outbursts, it looks frightening , and unfortunately he

> does occasionally lash out on the one who brought on the

> outburst. He is on meds, that I assume helped the

> frequency, but I am still praying for the right solution,

> it is clear to me that we can think of his future as a

> success only if he finds a way to overcome this.

>

>

>

> ( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns

> as they get older

>

>

>

> I wish I could say that aggression and meltdowns minimize

> with age, but I personally can't.

>

> I have a 14-year old son who was diagnosed with autism at

> age 2 and then Asperger's at age 9. My son is almost 6

> feet tall with a chest as broad as a football player. You

> can imagine what a meltdown is like with a child like

> that especially in public. I wish someone could help with

> this.

>

> I've met some parents of Asperger's childern who say that

> meltdowns are a rarity and their children are quite

> pleasant. I hope that is the norm.

>

> My son is often mistaken for an adult when we're out in

> public and he has the tendency to frighten some people.

> The good thing about meltdowns when they're young (if

> that is a good thing) is that they usually can be more

> easily removed from a situation. Moving my son is like

> moving a rock. :-)

>

> I think the key is finding ways to sooth them without

> allowing them to manipulate the situation with their

> aggression. That is a fine line to walk.

>

> Good luck and if you find any suggestions regarding this

> exhausting topic, please let me know.

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi Tonya,

> > > I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate.

> My son has

> > always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the

> last week he

> >

>

>

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Hi F! How are you doing over there? I think about you all the time so I

hope you manage to check in from time to time.

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then it is not the child who is the slow learner.”

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older

Unfortunately I can relate to that, although meltdowns and outbursts have

decreased in frequency, they haven't decreased in intensity, and it looks

totally different when it is a big boy like that (mine is 13 and as strong

as 5 adult men). So even if he did nothing during his outbursts, it looks

frightening , and unfortunately he does occasionally lash out on the one who

brought on the outburst. He is on meds, that I assume helped the frequency,

but I am still praying for the right solution, it is clear to me that we can

think of his future as a success only if he finds a way to overcome this.

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, You really want him to get speech therapy at school for

pragmatic speech. This is a fancy word for social speech. The speeech

therapist will work witht children in a group about how to have a

conversation -- how to talk back and forth, appropriate topics of

conversation, how to tell if someone's bored withi what you're

talking about, giving someone else a turn, etc. Most of our kids need

this kind of therapy. In order to get it for my son, I had to get an

IEE (Independent External Evaluation), which said that he DID need

speech therapy. Same for OT. Good luck, Liz

On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Doornbos wrote:

> Wow! He is a big boy! I fear that my son will be hard for me to

> handle as he gets older. He is only five now but he is huge! He

> wears size 8 clothes. My husband is 6'1 and over 300 lbs so I

> assume he is following along. I just fear that someday I will not

> be able to do anything. Right now I am able to talk him out of

> meltdowns or remove him to a quiet environment. I just wish I knew

> if there was something specifically triggering him to become more

> aggressive. He has never been aggressive towards me but he is a lot

> with my husband and with boys who are about 10-12 years old at

> parks. I haven't been given any info about any types of therapy's

> or anything. I got the dx and they said okay well then good luck

> and we will talk to you again in a few months. So I am lost as to

> what to do now. I hear so many of you talking about O.T'S AND S.T's

> and socialization things and I am not sure if these are things we

> will be signed up for in the next visit or if I should be doing it

> myself. I did get him an aid for social problems at school.

> Academically he excels. He is very intelligent and is in the french

> program but can not problem solve with friends or transition to new

> activities. So she will help him through without him knowing that

> she is there as his aid. She will be introduced as the teacher's

> aid. But that is about as far as I got. And I really have no idea

> what else to do. The more I read about things and older AS kids the

> more worried I get. Does anyone have any advise on what to do now?

> What groups should I be involving him in ect. Thanks. You are all

> so helpful! I love being part of this group. It feels so nice to be

> able to openly talk and have people really know what I am talking

> about.

>

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Toni,

Sounds like you handled the situation brilliantly. Very matter of

factly, without buying into his hysteria. Good job. I'm very impressed.

Liz

On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:05 AM, kbtoni@... wrote:

>

> I too can relate. My kids are 6'1 " and just yesterday

> n got upset because I took the computer & playstation

> cords because he was not doing his virtual school that we

> payed 600 dollars we didn't have for. He got out the butcher

> knife and started stabbing the boxes in the pantry. which is

> a great improvement around here as he would usually stick it

> in his stomach and say he was going to hurt himself. I jsut

> said n quit stabbing the cracker box, you're going to

> make the crackers stale and put that thing up and

> surprisingly, he did. And I didn't mention it again and he

> calmed down. He also did two units even thought he is *only*

> 7 behind... If anyone wants to know how to walk on

> eggshells, I am becoming an expert :( Toni

>

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Thanks Liz. I appreciate the compliment cuz I sure don't

feel like I handle things (meltdowns) very well. I have

found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am

the better /quicker things de-escalate.. My heart sure was

pounding though waiting for the escalation. (Don't tell

n :) ) Toni

> Toni,

> Sounds like you handled the situation brilliantly. Very

> matter of factly, without buying into his hysteria. Good

> job. I'm very impressed.

>

> Liz

> On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:05 AM, kbtoni@... wrote:

>

> >

> > I too can relate. My kids are 6'1 " and just yesterday

> > n got upset because I took the computer &

> > playstation cords because he was not doing his virtual

> > school that we payed 600 dollars we didn't have for. He

> > got out the butcher knife and started stabbing the boxes

> > in the pantry. which is a great improvement around here

> > as he would usually stick it in his stomach and say he

> > was going to hurt himself. I jsut said n quit

> > stabbing the cracker box, you're going to make the

> > crackers stale and put that thing up and surprisingly,

> > he did. And I didn't mention it again and he calmed

> > down. He also did two units even thought he is *only* 7

> > behind... If anyone wants to know how to walk on

> eggshells, I am becoming an expert :( Toni >

>

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On Jul 14, 2006, at 7:37 PM, kbtoni@... wrote:

> I have

> found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am

> the better /quicker things de-escalate..

Very, very key for us. Few words spoken in a very calm

almost monotone voice. The words that are spoken are

specific, simple directions. If we're really having a moment,

the words said are nothing about the problem, they are

just the next step to take to calm down. You don't argue,

even if they say they are stupid or they hate you, or

the world will end tomorrow. You just say " keep

your head down and take some deep breathes. "

That's just for meltdowns, aggression is harder to handle.

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Thank you for the info Liz I will look into the speech therapy for sure:)

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, You really want him to get speech therapy at school for

pragmatic speech. This is a fancy word for social speech. The speeech

therapist will work witht children in a group about how to have a

conversation -- how to talk back and forth, appropriate topics of

conversation, how to tell if someone's bored withi what you're

talking about, giving someone else a turn, etc. Most of our kids need

this kind of therapy. In order to get it for my son, I had to get an

IEE (Independent External Evaluation), which said that he DID need

speech therapy. Same for OT. Good luck, Liz

On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Doornbos wrote:

> Wow! He is a big boy! I fear that my son will be hard for me to

> handle as he gets older. He is only five now but he is huge! He

> wears size 8 clothes. My husband is 6'1 and over 300 lbs so I

> assume he is following along. I just fear that someday I will not

> be able to do anything. Right now I am able to talk him out of

> meltdowns or remove him to a quiet environment. I just wish I knew

> if there was something specifically triggering him to become more

> aggressive. He has never been aggressive towards me but he is a lot

> with my husband and with boys who are about 10-12 years old at

> parks. I haven't been given any info about any types of therapy's

> or anything. I got the dx and they said okay well then good luck

> and we will talk to you again in a few months. So I am lost as to

> what to do now. I hear so many of you talking about O.T'S AND S.T's

> and socialization things and I am not sure if these are things we

> will be signed up for in the next visit or if I should be doing it

> myself. I did get him an aid for social problems at school.

> Academically he excels. He is very intelligent and is in the french

> program but can not problem solve with friends or transition to new

> activities. So she will help him through without him knowing that

> she is there as his aid. She will be introduced as the teacher's

> aid. But that is about as far as I got. And I really have no idea

> what else to do. The more I read about things and older AS kids the

> more worried I get. Does anyone have any advise on what to do now?

> What groups should I be involving him in ect. Thanks. You are all

> so helpful! I love being part of this group. It feels so nice to be

> able to openly talk and have people really know what I am talking

> about.

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My " Conner " is 9.5 yo. He is a compassionate kid too, and

answers " everything's fine " too , and also tells me he wants to " punch

peoples lights out " . He's hit himself in the head with a wooden

baseball bat, with his fists, the bed, the GameBoy. He was in the

phosp end of June as last resort. Really no help-lots of heartache-

see my other posts !!!! I know how helpless you feel !! I don't

have any answers, but I certianly can identify- and you are NOT ALONE.

Hang in there !! One day at a time !!!

Kim- mom

Conner - 9.5 yo, ADD/BP/AS ??? my dx.- the pdocs can't decide

Abilify,Tenex, Prozac, Metadate ER, going to the 4TH grade in 8/06

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I was visiting a friend a while ago, and she's got a six year old

son. He was unhappy about something. His mother was talking to me and

not paying any attention to him. Finally she made eye contact with

him, and he burst out into a full-fledged tantrum. But he saved the

tantrum until she was looking. Interesting, huh? Only an NT would do

that, huh?

Liz

On Jul 14, 2006, at 4:37 PM, kbtoni@... wrote:

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> Thanks Liz. I appreciate the compliment cuz I sure don't

> feel like I handle things (meltdowns) very well. I have

> found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am

> the better /quicker things de-escalate.. My heart sure was

> pounding though waiting for the escalation. (Don't tell

> n :) ) Toni

>

> > Toni,

> > Sounds like you handled the situation brilliantly. Very

> > matter of factly, without buying into his hysteria. Good

> > job. I'm very impressed.

> >

> > Liz

> > On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:05 AM, kbtoni@... wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > I too can relate. My kids are 6'1 " and just yesterday

> > > n got upset because I took the computer &

> > > playstation cords because he was not doing his virtual

> > > school that we payed 600 dollars we didn't have for. He

> > > got out the butcher knife and started stabbing the boxes

> > > in the pantry. which is a great improvement around here

> > > as he would usually stick it in his stomach and say he

> > > was going to hurt himself. I jsut said n quit

> > > stabbing the cracker box, you're going to make the

> > > crackers stale and put that thing up and surprisingly,

> > > he did. And I didn't mention it again and he calmed

> > > down. He also did two units even thought he is *only* 7

> > > behind... If anyone wants to know how to walk on

> > eggshells, I am becoming an expert :( Toni >

> >

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My rpoblem is whenthe meltdown is over something that I have no control over.

yesterday it was because I wouldn't give my son a glass of green cordial. I had

orange cordial but he wanted green. Last week it was because when he got int

the shower dirst washed off his feet. LOL You have to laugh or you'd spend all

day in tears.

Beck

Re: ( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns as they get older

On Jul 14, 2006, at 7:37 PM, kbtoni@... wrote:

> I have

> found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am

> the better /quicker things de-escalate..

Very, very key for us. Few words spoken in a very calm

almost monotone voice. The words that are spoken are

specific, simple directions. If we're really having a moment,

the words said are nothing about the problem, they are

just the next step to take to calm down. You don't argue,

even if they say they are stupid or they hate you, or

the world will end tomorrow. You just say " keep

your head down and take some deep breathes. "

That's just for meltdowns, aggression is harder to handle.

Jackie

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> > I have

> > found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am

> > the better /quicker things de-escalate..

>

> Very, very key for us. Few words spoken in a very calm

> almost monotone voice. The words that are spoken are

> specific, simple directions. If we're really having a moment,

> the words said are nothing about the problem, they are

> just the next step to take to calm down. You don't argue,

> even if they say they are stupid or they hate you, or

> the world will end tomorrow. You just say " keep

> your head down and take some deep breathes. "

> That's just for meltdowns, aggression is harder to handle.

>

> Jackie

>

>

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>

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I agree. That is also what I do. Just keep saying one of two key phrases in

a monotone calm voice. They need to know in the midst of their meltdown,

that we are there like a rock, as usual, that while they are having

difficulty keeping themselves together, we are there keeping us AND THEM

together.

F

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older

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" mailto:kbtoni%40alltel.net " kbtonialltel (DOT) -net wrote:

> I have

> found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am

> the better /quicker things de-escalate.-.

Very, very key for us. Few words spoken in a very calm

almost monotone voice. The words that are spoken are

specific, simple directions. If we're really having a moment,

the words said are nothing about the problem, they are

just the next step to take to calm down. You don't argue,

even if they say they are stupid or they hate you, or

the world will end tomorrow. You just say " keep

your head down and take some deep breathes. "

That's just for meltdowns, aggression is harder to handle.

Jackie

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