Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Sounds familiar. When he's angry, my 11 year old says the first thing that pops into his head. Usually that involves explosions and bazookas. Not the greatest things to say in a school environment these days! Luckily the school knows that he is just spouting off and isn't making a real threat. We just keep working on it, giving him appropriate things to say instead. And we practice it when he isn't angry. It's gotten better but still happens from time to time. I also make a real point to have him watch those news broadcasts when students are arrested for making threats. Then we talk about the similarities of what he says and the things those kids on the news did. I hear that depression is common with aspie kids. Seems like everything they do & say is wrong so I guess I would be depressed too. I try real hard to point out the stuff he does right. It's hard though since we take it for granted that they should say & do the right things all the time. Seems a bit silly sometimes to say " Oh , that was a real nice thing you said.... " but It's all I can think of doing. > > My son Connor who just turned 8, has been having more and more > meltdowns lately and I am starting to believe there is a lot of > confusion and anxiety surrounding him. It seems the older he gets > the worse it gets. He already has a hard time expressing his anger > and the only way he seems to express it is by hitting or making > threats. I consistently tell him, " Connor use your words " The > other day I asked him how his day was at day camp and of course I > get the usual response of " fine " and then I asked him a more > specific question like " Well what did you do? " He said this boy was > teasing him, so he said if he didn't stop teasing him he would get a > ball bat and hit him! I was shocked!!!! He never made threats like > that before. Obvibously, I told him that was not the appropriate > way to handle matters and when someone is teasing you, you need to > go tell an adult. After that, I cried in the bathroom until there > were no more tears to cry. Connor is a very compassionate child, I > know he would never intentionally hurt someone. Lately, he has > become more withdrawn and unhappy. My husband, family and I show > him all the love he can stand. I never go one day without giving > him a huge hug and a I love you. At this point, I feel helpless > like there is nothing else I can do but give him unconditional > love. Is there any pointers out there? I am at my wits end! Do > any of you have experiences like this? Thanks, Tonya > > Connor 8, DX ADHD,HFA > a handsome, smart and artisic child. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Hi Tonya, I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son has always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week he has had an overnight change. He threatened to stab somebody with a pencil because they were being mean. He also got fed up and bit an older boy at the spray park for making fun of him. I understand his frustration with being made fun of. But it shocked me to see my child lashing out this way. I have also cried till there was nothing left. I am wondering if anyone else has experienced things progressively getting worse. My son's clothing aversions and his need to line things up are getting stronger. I have also noticed that he has become more adamant about his distaste for the colour pink. It used to be that he wouldn't wear it and now he won't eat pink candy or have anything to do with it. I don't understand and am wondering if anyone else experiences these changes and problems. Sorry that I have no advise to give Tonya but I find it comforting to know that I am not alone, I hope you do as well. ( ) aggression and meltdowns as they get older My son Connor who just turned 8, has been having more and more meltdowns lately and I am starting to believe there is a lot of confusion and anxiety surrounding him. It seems the older he gets the worse it gets. He already has a hard time expressing his anger and the only way he seems to express it is by hitting or making threats. I consistently tell him, " Connor use your words " The other day I asked him how his day was at day camp and of course I get the usual response of " fine " and then I asked him a more specific question like " Well what did you do? " He said this boy was teasing him, so he said if he didn't stop teasing him he would get a ball bat and hit him! I was shocked!!!! He never made threats like that before. Obvibously, I told him that was not the appropriate way to handle matters and when someone is teasing you, you need to go tell an adult. After that, I cried in the bathroom until there were no more tears to cry. Connor is a very compassionate child, I know he would never intentionally hurt someone. Lately, he has become more withdrawn and unhappy. My husband, family and I show him all the love he can stand. I never go one day without giving him a huge hug and a I love you. At this point, I feel helpless like there is nothing else I can do but give him unconditional love. Is there any pointers out there? I am at my wits end! Do any of you have experiences like this? Thanks, Tonya Connor 8, DX ADHD,HFA a handsome, smart and artisic child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 We experience similar things with our son (almost 7). The last two weeks of school, for example, he was not at all the sweet and polite boy he usually is. He bit two of his classmates, told another one he hated him, and started calling them names that rhymed with their names (pretty amusing and not anything nasty, but still very inappropriate). He had never done that much before or had such a long meltdown. We associated it with his difficulties expressing his anxiety because the school year was ending, and his teacher had gone on maternity leave. The grumpiness of the substitute teacher didn't help much either. Perhaps, as they grow older they are more aware of the real world and they experience more stress and anxiety, and kids that are angels otherwise, have sometimes difficulties coping with it. We often feel that the more our son gets exposed to the social world and to communications (mass media, computer games, etc.,), the more sources of frustrations he finds. This week I actually caught myself longing for the rural upbringing I had... it was so much simpler to grow up like that. Every time he succesfully sorts out a social challenge (like every week of summer camp) we feel great relief, and we credit our work helping him with his AS. It might be undeserved credit, but it feels really well :-) so what the heck! Have a great day. F > > Hi Tonya, > I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son has always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 I wish I could say that aggression and meltdowns minimize with age, but I personally can't. I have a 14-year old son who was diagnosed with autism at age 2 and then Asperger's at age 9. My son is almost 6 feet tall with a chest as broad as a football player. You can imagine what a meltdown is like with a child like that especially in public. I wish someone could help with this. I've met some parents of Asperger's childern who say that meltdowns are a rarity and their children are quite pleasant. I hope that is the norm. My son is often mistaken for an adult when we're out in public and he has the tendency to frighten some people. The good thing about meltdowns when they're young (if that is a good thing) is that they usually can be more easily removed from a situation. Moving my son is like moving a rock. :-) I think the key is finding ways to sooth them without allowing them to manipulate the situation with their aggression. That is a fine line to walk. Good luck and if you find any suggestions regarding this exhausting topic, please let me know. > > > > Hi Tonya, > > I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son has > always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week he > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Thanks for the reply. I agree with you, I think a lot of it has to do with stressful situations as well as new things daily to deal with as they get older. I am hoping that it doesn't continually progress. If it does I guess it's a bridge we will cross when we get there. Thanks again:) ( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns as they get older We experience similar things with our son (almost 7). The last two weeks of school, for example, he was not at all the sweet and polite boy he usually is. He bit two of his classmates, told another one he hated him, and started calling them names that rhymed with their names (pretty amusing and not anything nasty, but still very inappropriate). He had never done that much before or had such a long meltdown. We associated it with his difficulties expressing his anxiety because the school year was ending, and his teacher had gone on maternity leave. The grumpiness of the substitute teacher didn't help much either. Perhaps, as they grow older they are more aware of the real world and they experience more stress and anxiety, and kids that are angels otherwise, have sometimes difficulties coping with it. We often feel that the more our son gets exposed to the social world and to communications (mass media, computer games, etc.,), the more sources of frustrations he finds. This week I actually caught myself longing for the rural upbringing I had... it was so much simpler to grow up like that. Every time he succesfully sorts out a social challenge (like every week of summer camp) we feel great relief, and we credit our work helping him with his AS. It might be undeserved credit, but it feels really well :-) so what the heck! Have a great day. F > > Hi Tonya, > I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son has always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Well, I would probably suggest you find a social skill group so he can start practicing his skills and learn what to do in those situations. Roxanna ôô “If you’ve told a child a thousand times and he still does not understand, then it is not the child who is the slow learner.” Walter Barbee _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of tonic075 Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 11:01 AM Subject: ( ) aggression and meltdowns as they get older My son Connor who just turned 8, has been having more and more meltdowns lately and I am starting to believe there is a lot of confusion and anxiety surrounding him. It seems the older he gets the worse it gets. He already has a hard time expressing his anger and the only way he seems to express it is by hitting or making threats. I consistently tell him, " Connor use your words " The other day I asked him how his day was at day camp and of course I get the usual response of " fine " and then I asked him a more specific question like " Well what did you do? " He said this boy was teasing him, so he said if he didn't stop teasing him he would get a ball bat and hit him! I was shocked!!!! He never made threats like that before. Obvibously, I told him that was not the appropriate way to handle matters and when someone is teasing you, you need to go tell an adult. After that, I cried in the bathroom until there were no more tears to cry. Connor is a very compassionate child, I know he would never intentionally hurt someone. Lately, he has become more withdrawn and unhappy. My husband, family and I show him all the love he can stand. I never go one day without giving him a huge hug and a I love you. At this point, I feel helpless like there is nothing else I can do but give him unconditional love. Is there any pointers out there? I am at my wits end! Do any of you have experiences like this? Thanks, Tonya Connor 8, DX ADHD,HFA a handsome, smart and artisic child. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/387 - Release Date: 7/12/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Wow! He is a big boy! I fear that my son will be hard for me to handle as he gets older. He is only five now but he is huge! He wears size 8 clothes. My husband is 6'1 and over 300 lbs so I assume he is following along. I just fear that someday I will not be able to do anything. Right now I am able to talk him out of meltdowns or remove him to a quiet environment. I just wish I knew if there was something specifically triggering him to become more aggressive. He has never been aggressive towards me but he is a lot with my husband and with boys who are about 10-12 years old at parks. I haven't been given any info about any types of therapy's or anything. I got the dx and they said okay well then good luck and we will talk to you again in a few months. So I am lost as to what to do now. I hear so many of you talking about O.T'S AND S.T's and socialization things and I am not sure if these are things we will be signed up for in the next visit or if I should be doing it myself. I did get him an aid for social problems at school. Academically he excels. He is very intelligent and is in the french program but can not problem solve with friends or transition to new activities. So she will help him through without him knowing that she is there as his aid. She will be introduced as the teacher's aid. But that is about as far as I got. And I really have no idea what else to do. The more I read about things and older AS kids the more worried I get. Does anyone have any advise on what to do now? What groups should I be involving him in ect. Thanks. You are all so helpful! I love being part of this group. It feels so nice to be able to openly talk and have people really know what I am talking about. ( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns as they get older I wish I could say that aggression and meltdowns minimize with age, but I personally can't. I have a 14-year old son who was diagnosed with autism at age 2 and then Asperger's at age 9. My son is almost 6 feet tall with a chest as broad as a football player. You can imagine what a meltdown is like with a child like that especially in public. I wish someone could help with this. I've met some parents of Asperger's childern who say that meltdowns are a rarity and their children are quite pleasant. I hope that is the norm. My son is often mistaken for an adult when we're out in public and he has the tendency to frighten some people. The good thing about meltdowns when they're young (if that is a good thing) is that they usually can be more easily removed from a situation. Moving my son is like moving a rock. :-) I think the key is finding ways to sooth them without allowing them to manipulate the situation with their aggression. That is a fine line to walk. Good luck and if you find any suggestions regarding this exhausting topic, please let me know. > > > > Hi Tonya, > > I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son has > always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week he > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Unfortunately I can relate to that, although meltdowns and outbursts have decreased in frequency, they haven't decreased in intensity, and it looks totally different when it is a big boy like that (mine is 13 and as strong as 5 adult men). So even if he did nothing during his outbursts, it looks frightening , and unfortunately he does occasionally lash out on the one who brought on the outburst. He is on meds, that I assume helped the frequency, but I am still praying for the right solution, it is clear to me that we can think of his future as a success only if he finds a way to overcome this. ( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns as they get older I wish I could say that aggression and meltdowns minimize with age, but I personally can't. I have a 14-year old son who was diagnosed with autism at age 2 and then Asperger's at age 9. My son is almost 6 feet tall with a chest as broad as a football player. You can imagine what a meltdown is like with a child like that especially in public. I wish someone could help with this. I've met some parents of Asperger's childern who say that meltdowns are a rarity and their children are quite pleasant. I hope that is the norm. My son is often mistaken for an adult when we're out in public and he has the tendency to frighten some people. The good thing about meltdowns when they're young (if that is a good thing) is that they usually can be more easily removed from a situation. Moving my son is like moving a rock. :-) I think the key is finding ways to sooth them without allowing them to manipulate the situation with their aggression. That is a fine line to walk. Good luck and if you find any suggestions regarding this exhausting topic, please let me know. > > > > Hi Tonya, > > I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. My son has > always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the last week he > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 10/07/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 10/07/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I too can relate. My kids are 6'1 " and just yesterday n got upset because I took the computer & playstation cords because he was not doing his virtual school that we payed 600 dollars we didn't have for. He got out the butcher knife and started stabbing the boxes in the pantry. which is a great improvement around here as he would usually stick it in his stomach and say he was going to hurt himself. I jsut said n quit stabbing the cracker box, you're going to make the crackers stale and put that thing up and surprisingly, he did. And I didn't mention it again and he calmed down. He also did two units even thought he is *only* 7 behind... If anyone wants to know how to walk on eggshells, I am becoming an expert Toni > > > Unfortunately I can relate to that, although meltdowns and > outbursts have decreased in frequency, they haven't > decreased in intensity, and it looks totally different > when it is a big boy like that (mine is 13 and as strong > as 5 adult men). So even if he did nothing during his > outbursts, it looks frightening , and unfortunately he > does occasionally lash out on the one who brought on the > outburst. He is on meds, that I assume helped the > frequency, but I am still praying for the right solution, > it is clear to me that we can think of his future as a > success only if he finds a way to overcome this. > > > > ( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns > as they get older > > > > I wish I could say that aggression and meltdowns minimize > with age, but I personally can't. > > I have a 14-year old son who was diagnosed with autism at > age 2 and then Asperger's at age 9. My son is almost 6 > feet tall with a chest as broad as a football player. You > can imagine what a meltdown is like with a child like > that especially in public. I wish someone could help with > this. > > I've met some parents of Asperger's childern who say that > meltdowns are a rarity and their children are quite > pleasant. I hope that is the norm. > > My son is often mistaken for an adult when we're out in > public and he has the tendency to frighten some people. > The good thing about meltdowns when they're young (if > that is a good thing) is that they usually can be more > easily removed from a situation. Moving my son is like > moving a rock. :-) > > I think the key is finding ways to sooth them without > allowing them to manipulate the situation with their > aggression. That is a fine line to walk. > > Good luck and if you find any suggestions regarding this > exhausting topic, please let me know. > > > > > > > > Hi Tonya, > > > I unfortunately do not have any advise but can relate. > My son has > > always been very loving and gentle. But it seems in the > last week he > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release > Date: 10/07/2006 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release > Date: 10/07/2006 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Hi F! How are you doing over there? I think about you all the time so I hope you manage to check in from time to time. Roxanna ôô “If you’ve told a child a thousand times and he still does not understand, then it is not the child who is the slow learner.” Walter Barbee RE: ( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns as they get older Unfortunately I can relate to that, although meltdowns and outbursts have decreased in frequency, they haven't decreased in intensity, and it looks totally different when it is a big boy like that (mine is 13 and as strong as 5 adult men). So even if he did nothing during his outbursts, it looks frightening , and unfortunately he does occasionally lash out on the one who brought on the outburst. He is on meds, that I assume helped the frequency, but I am still praying for the right solution, it is clear to me that we can think of his future as a success only if he finds a way to overcome this. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.0/388 - Release Date: 7/13/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 , You really want him to get speech therapy at school for pragmatic speech. This is a fancy word for social speech. The speeech therapist will work witht children in a group about how to have a conversation -- how to talk back and forth, appropriate topics of conversation, how to tell if someone's bored withi what you're talking about, giving someone else a turn, etc. Most of our kids need this kind of therapy. In order to get it for my son, I had to get an IEE (Independent External Evaluation), which said that he DID need speech therapy. Same for OT. Good luck, Liz On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Doornbos wrote: > Wow! He is a big boy! I fear that my son will be hard for me to > handle as he gets older. He is only five now but he is huge! He > wears size 8 clothes. My husband is 6'1 and over 300 lbs so I > assume he is following along. I just fear that someday I will not > be able to do anything. Right now I am able to talk him out of > meltdowns or remove him to a quiet environment. I just wish I knew > if there was something specifically triggering him to become more > aggressive. He has never been aggressive towards me but he is a lot > with my husband and with boys who are about 10-12 years old at > parks. I haven't been given any info about any types of therapy's > or anything. I got the dx and they said okay well then good luck > and we will talk to you again in a few months. So I am lost as to > what to do now. I hear so many of you talking about O.T'S AND S.T's > and socialization things and I am not sure if these are things we > will be signed up for in the next visit or if I should be doing it > myself. I did get him an aid for social problems at school. > Academically he excels. He is very intelligent and is in the french > program but can not problem solve with friends or transition to new > activities. So she will help him through without him knowing that > she is there as his aid. She will be introduced as the teacher's > aid. But that is about as far as I got. And I really have no idea > what else to do. The more I read about things and older AS kids the > more worried I get. Does anyone have any advise on what to do now? > What groups should I be involving him in ect. Thanks. You are all > so helpful! I love being part of this group. It feels so nice to be > able to openly talk and have people really know what I am talking > about. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Toni, Sounds like you handled the situation brilliantly. Very matter of factly, without buying into his hysteria. Good job. I'm very impressed. Liz On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:05 AM, kbtoni@... wrote: > > I too can relate. My kids are 6'1 " and just yesterday > n got upset because I took the computer & playstation > cords because he was not doing his virtual school that we > payed 600 dollars we didn't have for. He got out the butcher > knife and started stabbing the boxes in the pantry. which is > a great improvement around here as he would usually stick it > in his stomach and say he was going to hurt himself. I jsut > said n quit stabbing the cracker box, you're going to > make the crackers stale and put that thing up and > surprisingly, he did. And I didn't mention it again and he > calmed down. He also did two units even thought he is *only* > 7 behind... If anyone wants to know how to walk on > eggshells, I am becoming an expert Toni > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Thanks Liz. I appreciate the compliment cuz I sure don't feel like I handle things (meltdowns) very well. I have found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am the better /quicker things de-escalate.. My heart sure was pounding though waiting for the escalation. (Don't tell n ) Toni > Toni, > Sounds like you handled the situation brilliantly. Very > matter of factly, without buying into his hysteria. Good > job. I'm very impressed. > > Liz > On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:05 AM, kbtoni@... wrote: > > > > > I too can relate. My kids are 6'1 " and just yesterday > > n got upset because I took the computer & > > playstation cords because he was not doing his virtual > > school that we payed 600 dollars we didn't have for. He > > got out the butcher knife and started stabbing the boxes > > in the pantry. which is a great improvement around here > > as he would usually stick it in his stomach and say he > > was going to hurt himself. I jsut said n quit > > stabbing the cracker box, you're going to make the > > crackers stale and put that thing up and surprisingly, > > he did. And I didn't mention it again and he calmed > > down. He also did two units even thought he is *only* 7 > > behind... If anyone wants to know how to walk on > eggshells, I am becoming an expert Toni > > I, not events, have the power to make me happy or unhappy today. I can CHOOSE which it shall be. Groucho Marx _________________________________________ Check your Email accounts at MyEmail.com Login from home, work, school. Anywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 On Jul 14, 2006, at 7:37 PM, kbtoni@... wrote: > I have > found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am > the better /quicker things de-escalate.. Very, very key for us. Few words spoken in a very calm almost monotone voice. The words that are spoken are specific, simple directions. If we're really having a moment, the words said are nothing about the problem, they are just the next step to take to calm down. You don't argue, even if they say they are stupid or they hate you, or the world will end tomorrow. You just say " keep your head down and take some deep breathes. " That's just for meltdowns, aggression is harder to handle. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Thank you for the info Liz I will look into the speech therapy for sure:) \ Re: ( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns as they get older , You really want him to get speech therapy at school for pragmatic speech. This is a fancy word for social speech. The speeech therapist will work witht children in a group about how to have a conversation -- how to talk back and forth, appropriate topics of conversation, how to tell if someone's bored withi what you're talking about, giving someone else a turn, etc. Most of our kids need this kind of therapy. In order to get it for my son, I had to get an IEE (Independent External Evaluation), which said that he DID need speech therapy. Same for OT. Good luck, Liz On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Doornbos wrote: > Wow! He is a big boy! I fear that my son will be hard for me to > handle as he gets older. He is only five now but he is huge! He > wears size 8 clothes. My husband is 6'1 and over 300 lbs so I > assume he is following along. I just fear that someday I will not > be able to do anything. Right now I am able to talk him out of > meltdowns or remove him to a quiet environment. I just wish I knew > if there was something specifically triggering him to become more > aggressive. He has never been aggressive towards me but he is a lot > with my husband and with boys who are about 10-12 years old at > parks. I haven't been given any info about any types of therapy's > or anything. I got the dx and they said okay well then good luck > and we will talk to you again in a few months. So I am lost as to > what to do now. I hear so many of you talking about O.T'S AND S.T's > and socialization things and I am not sure if these are things we > will be signed up for in the next visit or if I should be doing it > myself. I did get him an aid for social problems at school. > Academically he excels. He is very intelligent and is in the french > program but can not problem solve with friends or transition to new > activities. So she will help him through without him knowing that > she is there as his aid. She will be introduced as the teacher's > aid. But that is about as far as I got. And I really have no idea > what else to do. The more I read about things and older AS kids the > more worried I get. Does anyone have any advise on what to do now? > What groups should I be involving him in ect. Thanks. You are all > so helpful! I love being part of this group. It feels so nice to be > able to openly talk and have people really know what I am talking > about. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 My " Conner " is 9.5 yo. He is a compassionate kid too, and answers " everything's fine " too , and also tells me he wants to " punch peoples lights out " . He's hit himself in the head with a wooden baseball bat, with his fists, the bed, the GameBoy. He was in the phosp end of June as last resort. Really no help-lots of heartache- see my other posts !!!! I know how helpless you feel !! I don't have any answers, but I certianly can identify- and you are NOT ALONE. Hang in there !! One day at a time !!! Kim- mom Conner - 9.5 yo, ADD/BP/AS ??? my dx.- the pdocs can't decide Abilify,Tenex, Prozac, Metadate ER, going to the 4TH grade in 8/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 I was visiting a friend a while ago, and she's got a six year old son. He was unhappy about something. His mother was talking to me and not paying any attention to him. Finally she made eye contact with him, and he burst out into a full-fledged tantrum. But he saved the tantrum until she was looking. Interesting, huh? Only an NT would do that, huh? Liz On Jul 14, 2006, at 4:37 PM, kbtoni@... wrote: > > Thanks Liz. I appreciate the compliment cuz I sure don't > feel like I handle things (meltdowns) very well. I have > found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am > the better /quicker things de-escalate.. My heart sure was > pounding though waiting for the escalation. (Don't tell > n ) Toni > > > Toni, > > Sounds like you handled the situation brilliantly. Very > > matter of factly, without buying into his hysteria. Good > > job. I'm very impressed. > > > > Liz > > On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:05 AM, kbtoni@... wrote: > > > > > > > > I too can relate. My kids are 6'1 " and just yesterday > > > n got upset because I took the computer & > > > playstation cords because he was not doing his virtual > > > school that we payed 600 dollars we didn't have for. He > > > got out the butcher knife and started stabbing the boxes > > > in the pantry. which is a great improvement around here > > > as he would usually stick it in his stomach and say he > > > was going to hurt himself. I jsut said n quit > > > stabbing the cracker box, you're going to make the > > > crackers stale and put that thing up and surprisingly, > > > he did. And I didn't mention it again and he calmed > > > down. He also did two units even thought he is *only* 7 > > > behind... If anyone wants to know how to walk on > > eggshells, I am becoming an expert Toni > > > > > I, not events, have the power to make me happy or unhappy > today. I can CHOOSE which it shall be. Groucho Marx > > _________________________________________ > > Check your Email accounts at MyEmail.com > > Login from home, work, school. Anywhere! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 My rpoblem is whenthe meltdown is over something that I have no control over. yesterday it was because I wouldn't give my son a glass of green cordial. I had orange cordial but he wanted green. Last week it was because when he got int the shower dirst washed off his feet. LOL You have to laugh or you'd spend all day in tears. Beck Re: ( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns as they get older On Jul 14, 2006, at 7:37 PM, kbtoni@... wrote: > I have > found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am > the better /quicker things de-escalate.. Very, very key for us. Few words spoken in a very calm almost monotone voice. The words that are spoken are specific, simple directions. If we're really having a moment, the words said are nothing about the problem, they are just the next step to take to calm down. You don't argue, even if they say they are stupid or they hate you, or the world will end tomorrow. You just say " keep your head down and take some deep breathes. " That's just for meltdowns, aggression is harder to handle. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 > > > I have > > found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am > > the better /quicker things de-escalate.. > > Very, very key for us. Few words spoken in a very calm > almost monotone voice. The words that are spoken are > specific, simple directions. If we're really having a moment, > the words said are nothing about the problem, they are > just the next step to take to calm down. You don't argue, > even if they say they are stupid or they hate you, or > the world will end tomorrow. You just say " keep > your head down and take some deep breathes. " > That's just for meltdowns, aggression is harder to handle. > > Jackie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 I agree. That is also what I do. Just keep saying one of two key phrases in a monotone calm voice. They need to know in the midst of their meltdown, that we are there like a rock, as usual, that while they are having difficulty keeping themselves together, we are there keeping us AND THEM together. F Re: ( ) Re: aggression and meltdowns as they get older On Jul 14, 2006, at 7:37 PM, HYPERLINK " mailto:kbtoni%40alltel.net " kbtonialltel (DOT) -net wrote: > I have > found that the more matter of fact and less emotional I am > the better /quicker things de-escalate.-. Very, very key for us. Few words spoken in a very calm almost monotone voice. The words that are spoken are specific, simple directions. If we're really having a moment, the words said are nothing about the problem, they are just the next step to take to calm down. You don't argue, even if they say they are stupid or they hate you, or the world will end tomorrow. You just say " keep your head down and take some deep breathes. " That's just for meltdowns, aggression is harder to handle. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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