RE: My intro and a question

[Guest guest]

Kim,

I live in CT and am working on a philosophical exemption. Use the

religious exemption.

in Manchester

I will email you privately.

Vollweiler wrote:

>

> From: " Vollweiler " <momacat@...>

>

> Hello everyone. I thought I would officially introduce myself to the

> group...I have been lurking for about a week now. I am the SAHM to 3

> wonderful children, Kaitlyn who is 5, and my boys, and Kurt who are

> just about 15 months. Kaitlyn has been fully vaccinated......I really just

> went by what the drs said as far as " shots " went. Kaitlyn had a terrible

> reaction to the MMR shot when she was 18 months...She had a high fever of

> 105 for about two days, a red rash that covered her body, swollen glands,

> and swollen joints...She was sick for days and days. What I found upsetting

> was the drs did not want to see her. They told me she was " just " having a

> reaction, and to give her Tylenol, and tepid baths. I can still see her

> little face all red a puffy as she lay on our bed and moaned. We have

> switched practices twice through the years, and I have told each dr that

> Kaitlyn had a bad reaction to the MMR. Each and every dr has been

> unimpressed with her reaction, and have told me not to worry...The second

> shot will not cause such a reaction. I do not want to give her the booster

> to the MMR. I also started my research on the MMR, and vaccine in general,

> because I am not happy with the idea of my sons getting the vaccine. The

> more I read, the more I am sure I should at the very least wait.

>

> My first time ever standing up to the dr on a vaccine issue was not long

> ago. and Kurt were about 6 months when the Rotavirus vaccine came

> out. My peds office was very excited about it and told me that my boys

> *need* to get the shot now, since the first shot was recommend at about 4

> months. I am so happy that I had my head focused and calmly asked for

> information on what rotavirus was. After a simple explanation from the

> nurse, and the one little sheet of paper with a description of the vaccine,

> I smiled and said I don't think we need this. I am so relieved that I did

> not get the vaccine...As of course, you all know, it was removed from the

> market. I am proud that I did not just blindly follow what the drs told me.

> I have also turned down the CP vaccine.

>

> So, here is my question to you all. I live in the state of CT, and need to

> know more about vaccine exemptions here. My daughter is in a private school,

> and so far, as had all the shots they expect of her. I know that when she is

> 6 years old she will be due for boosters (including the MMR) that I do not

> want her to have. So if anyone can give me information on how to handle

> schools, I would be thrilled. Also, if anyone wants to offer links on the

> MMR vaccine, I would very greatful.

>

> Vollweiler

> Owner, Breastfeeding and Attachment Parenting Twins

> http://members.tripod.com/~breastfeedingtwins/index.html

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Karla where in WA. state do you live? Dory

[Guest guest]

Sure I do..I live in Arlington..small, small world. Dory

[Guest guest]

hi ! i am tamika just joined last week i want to say this is a helpful sight

very knowledgeable people so pick their brains . if you make soap using

sodium hydroxide it is caustic but with proper pre-caution you should be fine

! the biggest problem i had so far was washing the soapmaking utensils with

bare hands it drys your hands something feirce . oh M & P is an art i have not

mastered yet (the decorative part ) but the fun in all this is

experimentation. sometimes you make mistakes then the fun is figuring out how

to fix it:)--have fun-tamika

[Guest guest]

> Karla where in WA. state do you live? Dory

I live in Spanaway, do you know where that is? I am east of Tacoma, and

just a bit south of Puyallup:o)

Karla

[Guest guest]

Hey, I'm new to this list and I live in Gig Harbor! My name is

and I just moved to WA from the beautiful (and ridiculously expensive) SF Bay

Area. I have two black cats (Sock and Picante) a doberman/shepard mix girl

dog named Mojo and 7 year old twins, daughter Rowen and son, Drew. I also

have never made soap before, but I am very interested in herbs and

aromatherapy, and so this seemed the next step. We should get a group

together in the real world!

[Guest guest]

all these people from WA should unite ! LOL ! poor me all the way down here

in GA ! LOL!--tamika

[Guest guest]

Nice to meet you Karla!

About learning soap making, my 2 cents are to take a class in soap

making. There are some really good ones out there. Try a local

craft shop that also has bath products. I personally would like

to see someone take a class than try it by themselves 1st and

get hurt. Not to mention you can get really GOOD advice from

an experienced soap maker that might you can't find in the books.

(although there are a bunch of really good books out there)

Hope this helps!

Peggy

Karla wrote:

>

> Good morning,

> I am sorry I haven't had a chance to introduce myself until now but I have

been mostly reading, and getting to know what the list is about etc before

jumping in.

>

> My name is Karla, I am 39 and I live in Wa. state. I have a son age 12, and

have been married for almost 15 years now to Don. I have 4 cocker spaniels, and

a border collie/lab mix.

>

> I am into photography, and making my own stationery and graphics for use

online.

> Recently I have become very interested in making my own soaps, lotions, etc.

> So I have been reading on the internet, and learning everything I can before I

give it a try.

>

> I joined this list and 1 other to learn as much as I can and also make some

friends:o)

> I have not even attempted to make my own soap yet, to be honest I am afraid of

failure,so the more I learn first the better:o)

>

> I do have on question though, what is the best, and easiest book for a

beginner to get for making homemade soaps?

>

> Thanks, and God bless...

> Karla

> Mom to Greg 12, & Furkids; Missy 5 (bw cocker); Shadow 22 mo. (bl cocker);

> Pepper 6 (border/lab); Hanna 6 months (b & t cocker); Sadie 1yr. Buff Cocker

> (our newest doll baby;) And Bobbie the manx kitty:o)

> http://www.geocities.com/moodimom/family.html

> http://www.geocities.com/moodimom/furkids.html

> http://home.att.net/~cockerbonkers <<Extra photo page with new pics

> AIM: cockerbonkers

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tamika, I was eavesdropping and noticed that you have a problem with

burning from washing your soapmaking utensils...little tip, wait

about 2-3 days until the soap has started to harden on the utensils

then you can safely wash then with little risk of burns.

Another tip, after making your soap, get a rubber spatula and scrape

the utensils and pot then follow the previous tip.

I do this and have NEVER had a burn.

blessing!

Peggy

6k5@... wrote:

>

> hi ! i am tamika just joined last week i want to say this is a helpful sight

> very knowledgeable people so pick their brains . if you make soap using

> sodium hydroxide it is caustic but with proper pre-caution you should be fine

> ! the biggest problem i had so far was washing the soapmaking utensils with

> bare hands it drys your hands something feirce . oh M & P is an art i have not

> mastered yet (the decorative part ) but the fun in all this is

> experimentation. sometimes you make mistakes then the fun is figuring out how

> to fix it:)--have fun-tamika

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I purposely leave a little soap in the pot after pouring and the next day I

scrape it out and

scrap off my spoon and make soap balls. I got a huge jar with a wooded lid

at the dollar

store and store these soap balls in. They look so nice and I have one of

each batch I made.

I have 3 girls and plan to give each one. Sharen

> [Original Message]

> From: peggy ramos <pookie3@...>

> < >

> Date: 4/19/01 12:08:43 AM

> Subject: Re: My intro and a question

>

> Tamika, I was eavesdropping and noticed that you have a problem with

> burning from washing your soapmaking utensils...little tip, wait

> about 2-3 days until the soap has started to harden on the utensils

> then you can safely wash then with little risk of burns.

> Another tip, after making your soap, get a rubber spatula and scrape

> the utensils and pot then follow the previous tip.

> I do this and have NEVER had a burn.

> blessing!

> Peggy

>

> 6k5@... wrote:

> >

> > hi ! i am tamika just joined last week i want to say this is a helpful

sight

> > very knowledgeable people so pick their brains . if you make soap using

> > sodium hydroxide it is caustic but with proper pre-caution you should

be fine

> > ! the biggest problem i had so far was washing the soapmaking utensils

with

> > bare hands it drys your hands something feirce . oh M & P is an art i

have not

> > mastered yet (the decorative part ) but the fun in all this is

> > experimentation. sometimes you make mistakes then the fun is figuring

out how

> > to fix it:)--have fun-tamika

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Karla,

I just moved from Puyallup 2 years ago (military) and moving back very soon.

I have some info for you if you'd like it. Please e-mail me privately.

Welcome to the list and Happy Soaping!

Re: My intro and a question

>

>

>

> > Karla where in WA. state do you live? Dory

> I live in Spanaway, do you know where that is? I am east of Tacoma, and

> just a bit south of Puyallup:o)

> Karla

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thank you peggy! i washed my utensils twice ( in 2 days) with wet soap on

them and that was 2 weeks ago my hands are still weird feeling . nothing

jojba,shea nothing helps never never do this ! thanks again for all the

advice sent private and to the group--tamika

[Guest guest]

Cool, you arent that far from me;o)

Nice to see some folks from HOME;o)

Karla

Re: My intro and a question

> Hey, I'm new to this list and I live in Gig Harbor! My name is

> and I just moved to WA from the beautiful (and ridiculously expensive) SF

Bay

> Area. I have two black cats (Sock and Picante) a doberman/shepard mix girl

> dog named Mojo and 7 year old twins, daughter Rowen and son, Drew. I also

> have never made soap before, but I am very interested in herbs and

> aromatherapy, and so this seemed the next step. We should get a group

> together in the real world!

>

>

[Guest guest]

You are just amazing! I thought my situation was extreme but you are a real

hero.

How old is the AS child? I think it is dangerous to deal with his rage when

you are driving with all the other children around. Perhaps would be more

convenient for everybody's safety to find someone to take care of him those 2

days

you have to drive the children to work.

God bless you and your family. Those children are lucky to have you and your

husband as parents.

Ana

[Guest guest]

Suzanne.sorry if I am being nosey, but every time I read someone is from NE

Ohio, I have to ask where from. (I was born in Willoughby and raised in

Mentor) Just curious.

Mommy to - 9 - Aspie

- 8 - ADHD

[Guest guest]

Hi My name is Helena. My son is 10 yo and has as. Where can I get a copy of

this movie?

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Suzanne

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:13 AM

Subject: ( ) My intro and a question

,

Well I guess I better get this movie somehow and watch it. I've started

building my collection of books on this subject and hope to gain some

insight into how to handle things quicker then waiting for the professionals

since it has taken me 6 long years already.

I never really introduced myself and I appreciate that you have all jumped

into help me. I live in NE Ohio and currently have 9 children. My husband

and I have been married for 25 years and have 4 birth children 2 of them are

ADD. Then about 11 years ago we started doing foster care and have adopted 3

children, including a set of twins that are ADHD big time and now the one

twin is AS. And we have 2 foster children living with us. The kids range in

age 18 months to 23 years old. And yes they are all still living at home. I

work part time as a nurse in a local hospital which helps keep me sane I

think.

How do you all deal with the rages that happen with this disorder? I am

having such a hard time with what he does and what he says. He threatens so

many things and can be very mean to everyone in our house. Although I am

starting to identify certain things that will set him off, like the 2 days a

week I have to work but I don't know how to prevent him from raging

everytime.The kids all go with me and my husband who also works at the

hospital and I switch off so there is no baby sitter involved. My son gets

so angry that we have to leave and then the setting in the vehicle is never

to his liking or approval and then he rages the whole way there about

everything and I do mean everything. I try not to argue with him but he has

such a drive that never seems to stop. When he starts getting physical and

disrespectful what are you suppose to do?

Thanks again for the insight, I hope I can find this movie to view.

Suzanne

-- Re: ( ) Re: ??? regarding school aides

Suzanne-

Children are suppossed to be educated in the Least Restrictive Environment

(LRE). This means they cannot just put your son in a school for children

with

severe bahaviors without trying to educate him in his current placement

with

proper supports (1-1 aide, counseling with the school therapist, social

skills, modifications, etc) If you look up LRE in the IDEA (Individuals

with

Disabilities Education Act) you will find more info about this. If he is

not

currently classified they have to go thru the LRE w/support path before

sending

him to the MOST restrictive (the special school) Knowing the law is a very

powerful tool any time you are working with your school district. My

district is quick to point out their " policies " . It's a shame when these

policies "

don't follow the law because many parents don't understand the difference.

As soon as I counteract with what the law says, my school stops arguing. I

have yet to hire a lawyer or advocate, I go to the state and federal

websites

and do the research myself.

Good Luck,

Cathie

[Guest guest]

Jack Nicholson's character in As Good As It Gets does not have Asperger's he

has an Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Just to clear things up. I mean it's

a great movie, but not really about AS.

This movie is however about two people with Asperger's who meet and have a

relationship:

_http://www.mozartandthewhale.com/_ (http://www.mozartandthewhale.com/)

Cathie

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I live in Poland Ohio, right outside of Youngstown. I had cousins that grew

up in Willoughby.

Suzanne

-- RE: ( ) My intro and a question

Suzanne.sorry if I am being nosey, but every time I read someone is from NE

Ohio, I have to ask where from. (I was born in Willoughby and raised in

Mentor) Just curious.

Mommy to - 9 - Aspie

- 8 - ADHD

[Guest guest]

Reggie is 9 years old. I really thought for the longest time it was

something we were doing that was causing him to get so upset. I wish I could

leave him with our 15 year old but I'm not sure he could be calm for her

either. When my oldest daughter is not working he stays with her and most

times he is okay but there are times he gets nasty with her. I just hope and

pray we learn the skills we need to deal with him before it's too late.

Suzanne

-- Re: ( ) My intro and a question

You are just amazing! I thought my situation was extreme but you are a real

hero.

How old is the AS child? I think it is dangerous to deal with his rage when

you are driving with all the other children around. Perhaps would be more

convenient for everybody's safety to find someone to take care of him those

2 days

you have to drive the children to work.

God bless you and your family. Those children are lucky to have you and your

husband as parents.

Ana

[Guest guest]

Excelent idea! Pets in general are wonderful helping Autism spectrum children

to communicate feelings. Animals have extreme sensitivity and they are all

about giving.

Ana

[Guest guest]

Suzanne,

My son Jake is 11, dx'd for about 3+ yrs now. He has very violent outbursts

too, and car rides are a nightmare, Yughio cards and Gameboy help some. As far

as at home, the best thing I ever did was get him a pet guinnea pig, they are

VERY docile animals (the females), and although he has trouble showing empathy

for people, he is very sensitive to animals. He knows that his violent behavior

around his pet will make her nervous and could give her heart problems, and

holding her when he is having anxiety really calms him down. There have been

different methods at different times that seem to work for Jake. For awhile what

worked was hugging, to " squeeze out the anger " , after that didn't work anymore,

it was a coin with the angel of harmony, he kept it in his pocket and rubbed it

to calm himself. I just try different things till I find something that works,

even though it's usually only temporary. But the pet has worked for 2 years now!

Good luck, and my prayers are with you

Suzanne <suzannex6@...> wrote:

,

Well I guess I better get this movie somehow and watch it. I've started

building my collection of books on this subject and hope to gain some

insight into how to handle things quicker then waiting for the professionals

since it has taken me 6 long years already.

I never really introduced myself and I appreciate that you have all jumped

into help me. I live in NE Ohio and currently have 9 children. My husband

and I have been married for 25 years and have 4 birth children 2 of them are

ADD. Then about 11 years ago we started doing foster care and have adopted 3

children, including a set of twins that are ADHD big time and now the one

twin is AS. And we have 2 foster children living with us. The kids range in

age 18 months to 23 years old. And yes they are all still living at home. I

work part time as a nurse in a local hospital which helps keep me sane I

think.

How do you all deal with the rages that happen with this disorder? I am

having such a hard time with what he does and what he says. He threatens so

many things and can be very mean to everyone in our house. Although I am

starting to identify certain things that will set him off, like the 2 days a

week I have to work but I don't know how to prevent him from raging

everytime.The kids all go with me and my husband who also works at the

hospital and I switch off so there is no baby sitter involved. My son gets

so angry that we have to leave and then the setting in the vehicle is never

to his liking or approval and then he rages the whole way there about

everything and I do mean everything. I try not to argue with him but he has

such a drive that never seems to stop. When he starts getting physical and

disrespectful what are you suppose to do?

Thanks again for the insight, I hope I can find this movie to view.

Suzanne

-- Re: ( ) Re: ??? regarding school aides

Suzanne-

Children are suppossed to be educated in the Least Restrictive Environment

(LRE). This means they cannot just put your son in a school for children

with

severe bahaviors without trying to educate him in his current placement

with

proper supports (1-1 aide, counseling with the school therapist, social

skills, modifications, etc) If you look up LRE in the IDEA (Individuals

with

Disabilities Education Act) you will find more info about this. If he is

not

currently classified they have to go thru the LRE w/support path before

sending

him to the MOST restrictive (the special school) Knowing the law is a very

powerful tool any time you are working with your school district. My

district is quick to point out their " policies " . It's a shame when these

policies "

don't follow the law because many parents don't understand the difference.

As soon as I counteract with what the law says, my school stops arguing. I

have yet to hire a lawyer or advocate, I go to the state and federal

websites

and do the research myself.

Good Luck,

Cathie

[Guest guest]

Suzanne,

My son’s rages have lessoned considerably since puberty. He is still an

angry child and completely non compliant but I have him well in hand. The

car is now and always has been a problem. I NEVER TAKE MY BOYS TO THE

STORE!! We shop for clothes on-line. I grocery shop while they are at

school. When a child is in a rage, the best thing to do is leave them

alone. I make sure there is nothing around he can hurt himself with and I

make him leave his door open so I can keep an eye on him. My youngest son

either plays outside, goes to a friends house or plays in his room with the

door locked because he is AJ’s #1 target when he looses it. Reading calms

him down. Also, he is almost 15 and I wish I could leave my 9 year old with

him once in a while so I can actually be an adult, however, I cant. 14 ½

was when I noticed the most change in him. During the hardest part of

puberty, he was hospitalized 3 times for violence and rages. This was

during his last 3 months of age 13. He came out of the hospital the day

before his 14th Birthday and anywhere from 4-7 months later I noticed the

first major shift in settling down. We also did anger management, intensive

therapy, job readiness and adventure counseling. The adventure counseling

has been an incredible influence on AJ. It’s built his self-esteem,

coordination and made him learn new problem solving skills. Keep you son

busy. So busy he is too tired to fight. That’s what I do and its working.

Join the Recreation Center, youth groups, anger management, anything so that

he doesn’t focus on himself. (my son is only about his own interest) These

activities force them to think of others, which is very difficult for AS

kids. I don’t want to discourage you, ours may be an extreme case, but I

know I struggle with parenting skills everyday. Also, join a Parenting

class for ADHD kids, you would be surprised at the similarities in parenting

skills for ADHD & AS. That helped me cope when he was 12. Got to go, he

just came home.

Good Luck

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Suzanne

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:14 AM

Subject: Re: ( ) My intro and a question

Reggie is 9 years old. I really thought for the longest time it was

something we were doing that was causing him to get so upset. I wish I could

leave him with our 15 year old but I'm not sure he could be calm for her

either. When my oldest daughter is not working he stays with her and most

times he is okay but there are times he gets nasty with her. I just hope and

pray we learn the skills we need to deal with him before it's too late.

Suzanne

-- Re: ( ) My intro and a question

You are just amazing! I thought my situation was extreme but you are a real

hero.

How old is the AS child? I think it is dangerous to deal with his rage when

you are driving with all the other children around. Perhaps would be more

convenient for everybody's safety to find someone to take care of him those

2 days

you have to drive the children to work.

God bless you and your family. Those children are lucky to have you and your

husband as parents.

Ana

[Guest guest]

I still need to work on not getting involved in his rage, he sucks us in so

quickly that I'm in neck deep before I realize it. He threatens that he is

going to kill some one or himself and will say I hate you and this family or

that he is leaving, and often times he starts hitting his twin or sometimes

the 4 year old. He mostly still just very verbal with his threats but how

can I leave him alone during this. He throws things or slams things around,

is very disrespectful if I ask him to stop. I send him outside often which

does give me a moment to breathe but then I worry about what the poor

neighbors are thinking about this whole messy situation. I do hate the whole

car thing too. The only time his is semi decent in the car is if he is the

only one with me or we are going to one of his appointments, for some reason

he hates having to be accountable to them for his actions. I am already

dreading vacation this year because it is always such a pleasant experience.

Suzanne

-- Re: ( ) My intro and a question

Reggie is 9 years old. I really thought for the longest time it was

something we were doing that was causing him to get so upset. I wish I could

leave him with our 15 year old but I'm not sure he could be calm for her

either. When my oldest daughter is not working he stays with her and most

times he is okay but there are times he gets nasty with her. I just hope and

pray we learn the skills we need to deal with him before it's too late.

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Suzanne,

Reguarding the " accountability " thing, I don't know about other aspies, but

Jake is always on the defensive. He always feels threatened by things that are

not threating to norms, so he feels justified in his actions. His hearing is

very sensitive, so he always feels like people are yelling at him, he can't

stand crowded places, loud noises, etc. Does your son have a place where he can

go to be alone that is quiet? Many times Jake just needs a place to escape, he

has a hard enough time with just one sister, I can't imagine if he had 10. Just

an idea, sounds like he is on sensory overload.

Theresa

Suzanne <suzannex6@...> wrote:

I still need to work on not getting involved in his rage, he sucks us in so

quickly that I'm in neck deep before I realize it. He threatens that he is

going to kill some one or himself and will say I hate you and this family or

that he is leaving, and often times he starts hitting his twin or sometimes

the 4 year old. He mostly still just very verbal with his threats but how

can I leave him alone during this. He throws things or slams things around,

is very disrespectful if I ask him to stop. I send him outside often which

does give me a moment to breathe but then I worry about what the poor

neighbors are thinking about this whole messy situation. I do hate the whole

car thing too. The only time his is semi decent in the car is if he is the

only one with me or we are going to one of his appointments, for some reason

he hates having to be accountable to them for his actions. I am already

dreading vacation this year because it is always such a pleasant experience.

Suzanne

-- Re: ( ) My intro and a question

Reggie is 9 years old. I really thought for the longest time it was

something we were doing that was causing him to get so upset. I wish I could

leave him with our 15 year old but I'm not sure he could be calm for her

either. When my oldest daughter is not working he stays with her and most

times he is okay but there are times he gets nasty with her. I just hope and

pray we learn the skills we need to deal with him before it's too late.

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Theresa ,

Sounds like your Jake and my Reggie are a lot alike. We tried to let him

have a place to go to escape from his siblings but he has a tendency of

breaking things just because they are there. Like this morning, the 3 boys

were up about 8 and Reggie went to the basement destroyed the puzzle his

sister was working on and broke his brother's hover craft, for no apparent

reason. He is so destructive when he is alone we really can't let him be by

himself. The main bathroom is off limits to him without supervision because

of the disappearing shampoo, body wash, shaving cream and tooth paste. He

would empty out the bottles and fill them with water so he could shoot out

the light bulbs. He paints the window and mirrors with stuff, likes the way

the toilet water changes color with the body washes. Decorated the wood work

one day with a pen that was the prize possession of the day, we should have

known he was up to something when he kept saying he was drying off and

getting dress for 20 minutes. We were so naive but I hate to always think

the worse. We use to let him go to the basement in the morning to watch TV

or play Nintendo so he could be alone, but he has removed all the buttons

from the remote and pushed all the buttons in on the TV. We would find food

packages opened and partly eaten and then placed back on the pantry shelf,

almost thought we had mice again. He even drank some barbecue sauce one day

and put it back on the shelf.

Sorry, wow I think I have a few years of pent up frustrations........ Did

his doctor really think just giving me more pills would actually help...

ARGH!!! Reggie is now on 5 different pills throughout the day and I hate

having him on so much but I don't think we would survive with out the meds.

I do realize that he does feel threatened by just about everything in his

environment but how do I get him past that so we can all survive. I am

going to have the 3 year old moved next week because he is a challenge for

all of us and it's not getting any better, he's been here 4 months and I

swear he has AS or something similar too. We had a major incident with him

yesterday so it is time for him to move on.

I know as our coping skills and intervention skills improve things will get

better but I wish I could learn everything I need to know right now. I don't

want too much do I?

Suzanne

-- Re: ( ) My intro and a question

Reggie is 9 years old. I really thought for the longest time it was

something we were doing that was causing him to get so upset. I wish I could

leave him with our 15 year old but I'm not sure he could be calm for her

either. When my oldest daughter is not working he stays with her and most

times he is okay but there are times he gets nasty with her. I just hope and

pray we learn the skills we need to deal with him before it's too late.

Suzanne