Re: I need some help... again

[Guest guest]

Toni, if they are attending Private School, the private school is only

obligated to come up with a service plan for all their students with special

needs

based on the percentage of money that they get from the local school

districts (federal money). When that money runs out, it does not get

replenished.

If your sons' were in public school, they would have the entire array of

services available to them. Pam

[Guest guest]

What state are you in????????

( ) I need some help... again

My 17 yos go to a private school and have been since we moved up here

when they were going in the 6th grade. They were not diagnosed with

aspergers until last year. Here's my problem. We had testing done

through the public school and got the results in June. we met with the

psychologist, the headmistress, the spec ed person from the public

school. I just got a call returned from the spec ed director and I

requested we get some Ot, speech, vocational training, any and

everything we need. She told me that she and the headmistress had sat

down and talked. I don't know exactly when. Here's the KICKER. They

said they don't have any MONEY to give any services to the boys. I

told her I didn't think they could use that as an excuse. She said we

just don't have enough money ...I have tried to look this matter up

and I am SO disgusted and ticked off I can't think straight now.

Anybody know if this is true and if it isn't where in wrights law or

somewhere else does it state so??? Thank you ... Ticked off Toni

[Guest guest]

I " think " that provision of special services to children not in the public

school system is voluntary and based on their own discretion. It's one of the

main reasons Ethan doesn't go to private school.

tsbthatsme <kbtoni@...> wrote: My 17 yos go to a private school

and have been since we moved up here

when they were going in the 6th grade. They were not diagnosed with

aspergers until last year. Here's my problem. We had testing done

through the public school and got the results in June. we met with the

psychologist, the headmistress, the spec ed person from the public

school. I just got a call returned from the spec ed director and I

requested we get some Ot, speech, vocational training, any and

everything we need. She told me that she and the headmistress had sat

down and talked. I don't know exactly when. Here's the KICKER. They

said they don't have any MONEY to give any services to the boys. I

told her I didn't think they could use that as an excuse. She said we

just don't have enough money ...I have tried to look this matter up

and I am SO disgusted and ticked off I can't think straight now.

Anybody know if this is true and if it isn't where in wrights law or

somewhere else does it state so??? Thank you ... Ticked off Toni

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/26/2006 2:30:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kbtoni@... writes:

The spec.ed lady said the only thing they could get at the public school

is speech therapy and that I could ask for an assessment and they could

get speech. They don't have money for any other services? They don't

have any kids at the public school that need more than speech therapy?

They need a whole lot more than speech therapy. I can't put them in

public school *now* after they have been in private school with a class

of 15 where the kids accept them for their quirks.. That would be

detrimental to them... Thanks for your reply ,Pam , even though I don't

like the answer Toni

Toni, I know you don't like the answer. Private schools are not obligated,

by law, to provide their students with special needs, an IEP. Federal funds

are instead " pooled " by each private school depending on the number of

students with IEPs, and service plans are written up. They usually try to make

therapies, supports, etc stretch so they can get the maximum for their money.

I'm not sure what the special ed director means when she says all they could

get is speech therapy in public school. You would have therapies, transition

planning and a vocational piece if they were in the public system. I know a

transition now would be hard and I think the decision to go private or public

is easier when children are younger, but as they get older and clearly need

a transition plan and perhaps a vocational program, the decision made years

before comes into play. Pam

[Guest guest]

Georgia

Kristy Caldwell wrote:

>

> What state are you in????????

>

> ( ) I need some help... again

>

> My 17 yos go to a private school and have been since we moved up here

> when they were going in the 6th grade. They were not diagnosed with

> aspergers until last year. Here's my problem. We had testing done

> through the public school and got the results in June. we met with the

> psychologist, the headmistress, the spec ed person from the public

> school. I just got a call returned from the spec ed director and I

> requested we get some Ot, speech, vocational training, any and

> everything we need. She told me that she and the headmistress had sat

> down and talked. I don't know exactly when. Here's the KICKER. They

> said they don't have any MONEY to give any services to the boys. I

> told her I didn't think they could use that as an excuse. She said we

> just don't have enough money ...I have tried to look this matter up

> and I am SO disgusted and ticked off I can't think straight now.

> Anybody know if this is true and if it isn't where in wrights law or

> somewhere else does it state so??? Thank you ... Ticked off Toni

>

>

[Guest guest]

The spec.ed lady said the only thing they could get at the public school

is speech therapy and that I could ask for an assessment and they could

get speech. They don't have money for any other services? They don't

have any kids at the public school that need more than speech therapy?

They need a whole lot more than speech therapy. I can't put them in

public school *now* after they have been in private school with a class

of 15 where the kids accept them for their quirks.. That would be

detrimental to them... Thanks for your reply ,Pam , even though I don't

like the answer Toni

ppanda65@... wrote:

>

> Toni, if they are attending Private School, the private school is only

> obligated to come up with a service plan for all their students with

> special needs

> based on the percentage of money that they get from the local school

> districts (federal money). When that money runs out, it does not get

> replenished.

> If your sons' were in public school, they would have the entire array of

> services available to them. Pam

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pam, Unfortunately when we decided to put them in private school

we didn't know they were aspergers , we thought that since they ' were

so shy' a smaller classroom would be better. The school we go to has

only heard of aspergers with one child before and he was preschool and

transferred somewhere else. I will have to ask but I don't think the

school has any kids on ieps , or any kids getting any kind of therapies.

I will ask the headmistress. The spec ed director specifically said I

could put them in public school here and they could get speech therapy

but that was all they could offer because they just don't have the

money.

So I have called PEPP, parents educating parents and professionals,

and someone who works our county is going to call back. I DID find

through the woman at PEPP that Warm Springs (the one President Roosevelt

went to here in Ga) has a program for 18-22 year olds that teaches them

everyday living skills, driving, helping to pass high school test, has

asperger support groups etc. (the one I talked to) is sending her

own daughter there next month. The dept of Labor pays for it. So at

least I have a LITTLE hope for my boys' future.. Didn't mean to write a

book. I'll leave you alone now, Pam! Thanks again. I know all the

mamas and dads can understand my desperation with trying to play catch

up... Toni

ppanda65@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2006 2:30:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> kbtoni@... <mailto:kbtoni%40alltel.net> writes:

>

> The spec.ed lady said the only thing they could get at the public school

> is speech therapy and that I could ask for an assessment and they could

> get speech. They don't have money for any other services? They don't

> have any kids at the public school that need more than speech therapy?

> They need a whole lot more than speech therapy. I can't put them in

> public school *now* after they have been in private school with a class

> of 15 where the kids accept them for their quirks.. That would be

> detrimental to them... Thanks for your reply ,Pam , even though I don't

> like the answer Toni

>

> Toni, I know you don't like the answer. Private schools are not

> obligated,

> by law, to provide their students with special needs, an IEP. Federal

> funds

> are instead " pooled " by each private school depending on the number of

> students with IEPs, and service plans are written up. They usually try

> to make

> therapies, supports, etc stretch so they can get the maximum for their

> money.

> I'm not sure what the special ed director means when she says all they

> could

> get is speech therapy in public school. You would have therapies,

> transition

> planning and a vocational piece if they were in the public system. I

> know a

> transition now would be hard and I think the decision to go private or

> public

> is easier when children are younger, but as they get older and clearly

> need

> a transition plan and perhaps a vocational program, the decision made

> years

> before comes into play. Pam

>

>

[Guest guest]

Toni,

What state are you in?

Toni <kbtoni@...> wrote:

Pam, Unfortunately when we decided to put them in private school

we didn't know they were aspergers , we thought that since they ' were

so shy' a smaller classroom would be better. The school we go to has

only heard of aspergers with one child before and he was preschool and

transferred somewhere else. I will have to ask but I don't think the

school has any kids on ieps , or any kids getting any kind of therapies.

I will ask the headmistress. The spec ed director specifically said I

could put them in public school here and they could get speech therapy

but that was all they could offer because they just don't have the

money.

So I have called PEPP, parents educating parents and professionals,

and someone who works our county is going to call back. I DID find

through the woman at PEPP that Warm Springs (the one President Roosevelt

went to here in Ga) has a program for 18-22 year olds that teaches them

everyday living skills, driving, helping to pass high school test, has

asperger support groups etc. (the one I talked to) is sending her

own daughter there next month. The dept of Labor pays for it. So at

least I have a LITTLE hope for my boys' future.. Didn't mean to write a

book. I'll leave you alone now, Pam! Thanks again. I know all the

mamas and dads can understand my desperation with trying to play catch

up... Toni

ppanda65@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 6/26/2006 2:30:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> kbtoni@... <mailto:kbtoni%40alltel.net> writes:

>

> The spec.ed lady said the only thing they could get at the public school

> is speech therapy and that I could ask for an assessment and they could

> get speech. They don't have money for any other services? They don't

> have any kids at the public school that need more than speech therapy?

> They need a whole lot more than speech therapy. I can't put them in

> public school *now* after they have been in private school with a class

> of 15 where the kids accept them for their quirks.. That would be

> detrimental to them... Thanks for your reply ,Pam , even though I don't

> like the answer Toni

>

> Toni, I know you don't like the answer. Private schools are not

> obligated,

> by law, to provide their students with special needs, an IEP. Federal

> funds

> are instead " pooled " by each private school depending on the number of

> students with IEPs, and service plans are written up. They usually try

> to make

> therapies, supports, etc stretch so they can get the maximum for their

> money.

> I'm not sure what the special ed director means when she says all they

> could

> get is speech therapy in public school. You would have therapies,

> transition

> planning and a vocational piece if they were in the public system. I

> know a

> transition now would be hard and I think the decision to go private or

> public

> is easier when children are younger, but as they get older and clearly

> need

> a transition plan and perhaps a vocational program, the decision made

> years

> before comes into play. Pam

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- , I am in Georgia. In

, eric federspiel

<wildfire925ef@...> wrote:

>

> Toni,

> What state are you in?

>

>

>

> Toni <kbtoni@...> wrote:

> Pam, Unfortunately when we decided to put them in

private school

> we didn't know they were aspergers , we thought that since they '

were

> so shy' a smaller classroom would be better. The school we go to

has

> only heard of aspergers with one child before and he was preschool

and

> transferred somewhere else. I will have to ask but I don't think

the

> school has any kids on ieps , or any kids getting any kind of

therapies.

> I will ask the headmistress. The spec ed director specifically

said I

> could put them in public school here and they could get speech

therapy

> but that was all they could offer because they just don't have the

> money.

> So I have called PEPP, parents educating parents and

professionals,

> and someone who works our county is going to call back. I DID find

> through the woman at PEPP that Warm Springs (the one President

Roosevelt

> went to here in Ga) has a program for 18-22 year olds that teaches

them

> everyday living skills, driving, helping to pass high school test,

has

> asperger support groups etc. (the one I talked to) is

sending her

> own daughter there next month. The dept of Labor pays for it. So

at

> least I have a LITTLE hope for my boys' future.. Didn't mean to

write a

> book. I'll leave you alone now, Pam! Thanks again. I know all

the

> mamas and dads can understand my desperation with trying to play

catch

> up... Toni

>

> ppanda65@... wrote:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 6/26/2006 2:30:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > kbtoni@... <mailto:kbtoni%40alltel.net> writes:

> >

> > The spec.ed lady said the only thing they could get at the

public school

> > is speech therapy and that I could ask for an assessment and

they could

> > get speech. They don't have money for any other services? They

don't

> > have any kids at the public school that need more than speech

therapy?

> > They need a whole lot more than speech therapy. I can't put them

in

> > public school *now* after they have been in private school with

a class

> > of 15 where the kids accept them for their quirks.. That would be

> > detrimental to them... Thanks for your reply ,Pam , even though

I don't

> > like the answer Toni

> >

> > Toni, I know you don't like the answer. Private schools are not

> > obligated,

> > by law, to provide their students with special needs, an IEP.

Federal

> > funds

> > are instead " pooled " by each private school depending on the

number of

> > students with IEPs, and service plans are written up. They

usually try

> > to make

> > therapies, supports, etc stretch so they can get the maximum for

their

> > money.

> > I'm not sure what the special ed director means when she says

all they

> > could

> > get is speech therapy in public school. You would have

therapies,

> > transition

> > planning and a vocational piece if they were in the public

system. I

> > know a

> > transition now would be hard and I think the decision to go

private or

> > public

> > is easier when children are younger, but as they get older and

clearly

> > need

> > a transition plan and perhaps a vocational program, the decision

made

> > years

> > before comes into play. Pam

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi, Toni. I'm new to this group and have been lurking for a little while.

I have a daughter (age 9) who's recently been diagnosed with Asperger

Syndrome. Since I also live in Georgia, I wanted to write to tell you that

I have also subscribed to a couple of other list-serves that may be of help

to you, as well: Georgia Parent, Georgia Children, Open Georgia Autism and

the North Fulton Autism Support Group. All of these groups are through

. You might post first to Georgia Parent, as I think there are some

" seasoned " professionals and parents on that list that could answer some

specific questions for you about eligibility for services here in Georgia.

Good luck. Warmly, Beth

[Guest guest]

Thank you Beth, I will do that and appreciate very much the suggestion.

Welcome and I am glad you are not just lurking...see you on the other

boards.. Toni

beth gibson wrote:

>

> Hi, Toni. I'm new to this group and have been lurking for a little while.

> I have a daughter (age 9) who's recently been diagnosed with Asperger

> Syndrome. Since I also live in Georgia, I wanted to write to tell you that

> I have also subscribed to a couple of other list-serves that may be of

> help

> to you, as well: Georgia Parent, Georgia Children, Open Georgia Autism and

> the North Fulton Autism Support Group. All of these groups are through

> . You might post first to Georgia Parent, as I think there are some

> " seasoned " professionals and parents on that list that could answer some

> specific questions for you about eligibility for services here in Georgia.

> Good luck. Warmly, Beth

>

>