Re: re to Liz and question on negative blood types

[Guest guest]

,

The Amish schoolmaster was a friend of ours, and invited my cousin and

me to school with him one day. (We were in about eighth grade.) I

thought, " Huh. This'll be a piece of cake! " because I went to one of

the best schools in suburban Cleveland. HAHAHAHA! There were so many

things they could do that I couldn't! How many bushels of grain can you

get from a field that you planted with so much seed? Ummm... I hadn't a

clue. How many hectares... Um, what's a hectare? Sure put me in MY

place. They also had spelling bees, which our schools had pretty much

given up on by then, and still taught geography. All that in one

little room heated by a woodstove.

Liz

On Jan 21, 2006, at 9:33 AM, LJL wrote:

> Liz, we consider a diet high in good fats very healthy. Our family

> eats grassfed meats that we buy directly from Amish farmers.

>

> And yes, their inbreeding would be why a autism gene would not get into

> their community.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hmmm... my daughter with a chromosome abnormality and autistic traits

has O - blood although her dad and myself are A+. In fact, we even

looked into the grandparents' blood types and everyone was RH

positive, including the one great-grandparent alive. I know that we

are talking about mothers who are RH negative, but it is interesting

to see that there is a lot of people with children expressing

neurological differences when their parents have a different blood

component. Could just be the numbers of us, but who knows... those

funny gene expressions!

>

> My two brothers that lived past infancy both had AS/HFA traits. My

> mother did not have the rhogam shot because my father's blood type

was

> not accurately identified. He is what I guess is called an

> intermittant secretor? Anyway he is classed now as rh positive but

my

> sister and I were born first, both with rh positive blood. My

mother

> was in and out of the hospital during her pregnancy with me due to

> severe nausia. She was also ill during her second pregnancy. When

> she had the third pregnancy, my brother was born with severe

problems

> (seizures, heart attacks) and was resuscitated multiple times before

> parents/doctors decided not to resuscitate next event. He lived

only

> one day. After that, the doctors ran some tests and found that my

> father was rh positive and it was too late for rhogam because that

is

> used as a preventative to development of antibodies. Next

pregnancy,

> doctors monitored closely and as soon as my brother was born (rh

> positive) a full blood flushing/transfusion was done to keep him

> alive. My youngest brother has rh negative blood (we think,

remember

> what happened with my father's type.) Anyway, I have rh positive

and

> husband has rh negative, but I did have some anomolies during my

> pregnancies which the OBgyn thought indicated some blood factor

> incompatibility issue but he didn't explain what he suspected. My

> children come by their AS traits honestly from either nurture (by

> parents with AS traits) or nature (genes from parent with AS

traits)

> It is possible that someday everyone who is currently lumped

together

> under the AS or HFA umbrella will be divided into different

categories

> (just like they keep dividing off SIDS into other diagnosis) and

> essentially AS and HFA are diagnosed purely on symptoms so it is

> possible there are multiple conditions or causes which result in

> similar symptoms.

>

[Guest guest]

On 1/18/06, Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

> Hi Sherger,

> what is a Rhogam shot, and why would a pregnant woman or any woman need to

> get that shot?

>

It is given to an RH negative mother who is married to an RH positive

man so there is a chance that the child will be RH positive. The

mother's immune system can start developing antibodies to the childs

blood factor (the RH factor) and when the child is born, as soon as

they start breathing and the blood starts carrying oxygen the child

can start having antibodies (given to him from mom) attack his own

blood. The Rhogam shot is to suppress the immune reaction that

creates the antibodies. That is why the mom must have the shot during

the first pregnancy (and each following) or it will be too late once

antibodies have developed. The child isn't the only one who can have

problems because the mom can get some complications during the

pregnancy from the RH factor leaking over into her blood and her

immune response to it. Those of us with family history of allergies

are probably at high risk due to our immune systems being so

hypervigilant.

[Guest guest]

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:10, wrote:

> Ingrid,

> maybe we have just found a reason for AS huh? anyone else with

> us?

> ----

** In my case no... I have 3 boys. My oldest has Aspergers, the other

two have sensory integration issues and their father does as well.

However I did have pre-eclampsia with every pregnancy. Which got more

severe the more children I had.

** **

>

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[Guest guest]

On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 06:30, Sherger22@... wrote:

> -

>

> Just so you know, there is NO proof that any autism spectrum disorder

> is

> genetic. If you look at how the numbers have gone up in the last 15

> years, it

> seems clear there is an environmental, as well as genetic component.

> For ANY

> doctor to tell you it is genetic should clearly do more research.

>

** Actually many of the genetic conditions they are discovering there is

an environmental factor in as well. Not all mind you but many. There are

proteins that are around the DNA that also interact with the DNA they

are finding it much more complex then originally believed. My son has an

unspecified inborn error of the metabolism, he has Aspergers, seizure

disorder, and eosinophilic gastroenteritus. There is a belief that many

of them are genetic and some of them came from circumstances.

** **

>

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[Guest guest]

On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 14:59, Rose wrote:

> Just a question, if both parents have a diagnosis of AS. could they

> have a child without a DX of aspergers?

** It depends on if Aspergers is a dominant or recessive gene. If it is

recessive then yes. You have a 25% chance of having a child with

aspergers if both of you carry the markers. You have a 25% chance of

having a child who carries tha Aspergers gene and a 25% chance of having

a child who is normal.

Now if Aspergers is dominant then if either one of you carry the gene

then you will have a higher amount of children who carry the condition.

** **

>

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[Guest guest]

And don't forget that some genetically controlled features can exhibit

incomplete dominance. My particular hazel eye coloring is supposed to

be an example of that (golden brown with a green band around each

iris).

On 1/23/06, <jett@...> wrote:

> On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 14:59, Rose wrote:

> > Just a question, if both parents have a diagnosis of AS. could they

> > have a child without a DX of aspergers?

>

> ** It depends on if Aspergers is a dominant or recessive gene. If it is

> recessive then yes. You have a 25% chance of having a child with

> aspergers if both of you carry the markers. You have a 25% chance of

> having a child who carries tha Aspergers gene and a 25% chance of having

> a child who is normal.

>

> Now if Aspergers is dominant then if either one of you carry the gene

> then you will have a higher amount of children who carry the condition.

>

> ** **

> >

> > ______________________________________________________________________

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

How many of you are descended from military workers who were part of

the unpublicized nuclear test observations?

The ones the government denies ever happened? My father is the only

member of his unit who actually has disability payments based on

residual damage from the tests. He did the un-military thing of

hiding away two of the radiation exposure indicator tags so they

weren't able to deny him like they did all the others.

On 1/23/06, <jett@...> wrote:

> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:10, wrote:

> > Ingrid,

> > maybe we have just found a reason for AS huh? anyone else with

> > us?

> > ----

>

> ** In my case no... I have 3 boys. My oldest has Aspergers, the other

> two have sensory integration issues and their father does as well.

> However I did have pre-eclampsia with every pregnancy. Which got more

> severe the more children I had.

>

> ** **

> >

> > ______________________________________________________________________

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 19:47, Kathy wrote:

> And don't forget that some genetically controlled features can exhibit

> incomplete dominance. My particular hazel eye coloring is supposed to

> be an example of that (golden brown with a green band around each

> iris).

** *nod* True very true.

** **

>

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[Guest guest]

On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 19:52, Kathy wrote:

> How many of you are descended from military workers who were part of

> the unpublicized nuclear test observations?

** My grandfather served as Colonel in WWII and the Korean War. My

father was a Veitnam era vet.

>

>

> The ones the government denies ever happened? My father is the only

> member of his unit who actually has disability payments based on

> residual damage from the tests. He did the un-military thing of

> hiding away two of the radiation exposure indicator tags so they

> weren't able to deny him like they did all the others.

** *nod* Sounds familar.

** **

>

> ______________________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

> > How many of you are descended from military workers who were part

of

> > the unpublicized nuclear test observations?

>

> ** My grandfather served as Colonel in WWII and the Korean War. My

> father was a Veitnam era vet.

> >

> >

> > The ones the government denies ever happened? My father is the

only

> > member of his unit who actually has disability payments based on

> > residual damage from the tests. He did the un-military thing of

> > hiding away two of the radiation exposure indicator tags so they

> > weren't able to deny him like they did all the others.

>

> ** *nod* Sounds familar.

>

> ** **

> >

> >

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Lise I nod to what you say and wish we could have a dissussion on

this as I know exactly where you are comming from.

Chrissy