RE: If they cant do it right......

March 22, 2007

Thanks for all the awesome ideas! I have made a list and when I can get up and

about I plan on getting some of these things :-)

I also read in a parents magazine to turn a colander over and have your child

put uncooked spaghetti noodles through the holes...hmmm...may try that too!

- C.

Mom to Cassie 16 PCOS, Austin 14 ADHD and a 3.5 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

( ) If they cant do it right......

> > >

> > > I have a question...Does anyone else have issues with their

child

> > not even trying something because they " know " they cant do it

right?

> > >

> > > a is 3.5 yo and will not even pretend to write because " I

cant

> > do it " I have finally figured it out that she doesn't want to

pretend

> > to write...because she knows that's not correct. We working on

> > learning how to write, but with a child that doesn't like to

color and

> > has weak hands...its difficult.

> > >

> > > But the same is true for other things..unless she " knows " she

can

> > do it correctly she wont try. She will not try to draw a square

> > because her lines aren't perfect.

> > >

> > > Any one else deal will such things...I figure this will " grow "

> > into more areas as she gets older.

> > >

> > > Thanks for any insight

> > >

> > > - C.

> > > Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS &

SPD/SID

> > >

March 22, 2007

I had 1 set of the mini picture ones for her a Christmas but I cant find any of

them now...where did you get yours?

- C.

Mom to Cassie 16 PCOS, Austin 14 ADHD and a 3.5 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

( ) Re: If they cant do it right......

I bought Wonder Wow books and Aquadoodle Mini-Mats for for Bethany, and

she loves them (no worries about markers in other books either as it

just uses water). Each page can be used again and again. My daughter

cannot get enough of them!

-Amie

March 22, 2007

We have this issue too. Lucas sees a OT 1 time weekly. Have you had

your child tested for dysgraphia? The OT told us that it is pretty

common with our AS kids. We just play games and work on the fine

moter skills and then we work on making the top and bottom lines on

his paper larger and different colors. This helps him see where the

lines are and where his letters should be. It can be a long painful

process to write, but there has been some improvment. Also the type

of pen and grip are really important due to the sensory issues.

Hope this helps!

> >

> > Do 3 years olds write?

> >

> > Roxanna

> > ( ) If they cant do it right......

> >

> > I have a question...Does anyone else have issues with their

child

> not even trying something because they " know " they cant do it

right?

> >

> > a is 3.5 yo and will not even pretend to write because " I

cant

> do it " I have finally figured it out that she doesn't want to

pretend

> to write...because she knows that's not correct. We working on

> learning how to write, but with a child that doesn't like to

color and

> has weak hands...its difficult.

> >

> > But the same is true for other things..unless she " knows " she

can

> do it correctly she wont try. She will not try to draw a square

> because her lines aren't perfect.

> >

> > Any one else deal will such things...I figure this will " grow "

> into more areas as she gets older.

> >

> > Thanks for any insight

> >

> > - C.

> > Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS &

SPD/SID

> >

March 22, 2007

,

I have bought some at Fred Meyers, Target, and at Joanne's Craft

store (I've got quite a few as she likes them so much). You can also

buy them on Amazon.com.

Amie

>

> I had 1 set of the mini picture ones for her a Christmas but I cant

find any of them now...where did you get yours?

> - C.

> Mom to Cassie 16 PCOS, Austin 14 ADHD and a 3.5 HFA/AS &

SPD/SID

>

> ( ) Re: If they cant do it right......

>

> I bought Wonder Wow books and Aquadoodle Mini-Mats for for

Bethany, and

> she loves them (no worries about markers in other books either as

it

> just uses water). Each page can be used again and again. My

daughter

> cannot get enough of them!

>

> -Amie

>

March 22, 2007

I guess I worded that wrong. I should have said, Do 3 year olds have to be able

to write developmentally. I don't think so. Before we get upset that our kids

are not doing something, we should check to see if it's developmentally

appropriate for their age.

Roxanna

( ) If they cant do it right......

>

> I have a question...Does anyone else have issues with their child

not even trying something because they " know " they cant do it right?

>

> a is 3.5 yo and will not even pretend to write because " I cant

do it " I have finally figured it out that she doesn't want to pretend

to write...because she knows that's not correct. We working on

learning how to write, but with a child that doesn't like to color and

has weak hands...its difficult.

>

> But the same is true for other things..unless she " knows " she can

do it correctly she wont try. She will not try to draw a square

because her lines aren't perfect.

>

> Any one else deal will such things...I figure this will " grow "

into more areas as she gets older.

>

> Thanks for any insight

>

> - C.

> Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

>

March 22, 2007

I wasn't asking about doodling or coloring. I was discussing 3 yo's who write.

Roxanna

( ) If they cant do it right......

I have a question...Does anyone else have issues with their child not even

trying something because they " know " they cant do it right?

a is 3.5 yo and will not even pretend to write because " I cant do it " I

have finally figured it out that she doesn't want to pretend to write...because

she knows that's not correct. We working on learning how to write, but with a

child that doesn't like to color and has weak hands...its difficult.

But the same is true for other things..unless she " knows " she can do it

correctly she wont try. She will not try to draw a square because her lines

aren't perfect.

Any one else deal will such things...I figure this will " grow " into more areas

as she gets older.

Thanks for any insight

- C.

Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

March 23, 2007

How was kids night?

- C.

Mom to Cassie 16 PCOS, Austin 14 ADHD and a 3.5 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

Re: ( ) If they cant do it right......

>>>I also read in a parents magazine to turn a colander over and have your

child put uncooked spaghetti noodles through the holes...hmmm...may try that

too!<<<

That sounds like fun! We're having a " kids night " tonight because DH is out

of town for work until tomorrow night so we always watch a movie and play

games and have snack time ~gasp~ in the living room! lol

I wonder if I have any spaghetti noodles, that'd be a fun thing to do and we

can make it into a game. Thanks for the idea!

-Jenn, AEP (ADD, Bi-Polar, Anxiety/Depression)

Proud Momma of Cory Albert (14yrs ADHD), h Dawn (12yrs

Anxiety/Depression)

and Jerry Lee " Trey " (9yrs ADHD, Bi-Polar, Asperger's)

March 23, 2007

Thanks I'll look for some!

- C.

Mom to Cassie 16 PCOS, Austin 14 ADHD and a 3.5 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

( ) Re: If they cant do it right......

>

> I bought Wonder Wow books and Aquadoodle Mini-Mats for for

Bethany, and

> she loves them (no worries about markers in other books either as

it

> just uses water). Each page can be used again and again. My

daughter

> cannot get enough of them!

>

> -Amie

>

March 23, 2007

It was fun! It wasn't quite what I had planned, but we had fun anyway lol We

didn't have spaghetti noodles and they didn't want to play cards so we

watched a movie. Cory fell asleep about a quarter of the way through and

before it was half over, Trey went back upstairs to watch the Discovery

channel lol h and I finished watching it though and they all said

they had a good night so it was good lol

Thank you for asking! =)

-Jenn, AEP (ADD, Bi-Polar, Anxiety/Depression)

Proud Momma of Cory Albert (14yrs ADHD), h Dawn (12yrs

Anxiety/Depression)

and Jerry Lee " Trey " (9yrs ADHD, Bi-Polar, Asperger's)

-- Re: ( ) If they cant do it right......

How was kids night?

- C.

Mom to Cassie 16 PCOS, Austin 14 ADHD and a 3.5 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

Re: ( ) If they cant do it right......

>>>I also read in a parents magazine to turn a colander over and have your

child put uncooked spaghetti noodles through the holes...hmmm...may try

that

too!<<<

That sounds like fun! We're having a " kids night " tonight because DH is

out

of town for work until tomorrow night so we always watch a movie and play

games and have snack time ~gasp~ in the living room! lol

I wonder if I have any spaghetti noodles, that'd be a fun thing to do and

we

can make it into a game. Thanks for the idea!

-Jenn, AEP (ADD, Bi-Polar, Anxiety/Depression)

Proud Momma of Cory Albert (14yrs ADHD), h Dawn (12yrs

Anxiety/Depression)

and Jerry Lee " Trey " (9yrs ADHD, Bi-Polar, Asperger's)

March 24, 2007

All is good if they are happy...even if it is not how or what we imagined!

I'm still coming to terms with that myself. I am glad you all had a good night

:-)

- C.

Mom to Cassie 16 PCOS, Austin 14 ADHD and a 3.5 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

Re: ( ) If they cant do it right......

>>>I also read in a parents magazine to turn a colander over and have your

child put uncooked spaghetti noodles through the holes...hmmm...may try

that

too!<<<

That sounds like fun! We're having a " kids night " tonight because DH is

out

of town for work until tomorrow night so we always watch a movie and play

games and have snack time ~gasp~ in the living room! lol

I wonder if I have any spaghetti noodles, that'd be a fun thing to do and

we

can make it into a game. Thanks for the idea!

-Jenn, AEP (ADD, Bi-Polar, Anxiety/Depression)

Proud Momma of Cory Albert (14yrs ADHD), h Dawn (12yrs

Anxiety/Depression)

and Jerry Lee " Trey " (9yrs ADHD, Bi-Polar, Asperger's)

March 24, 2007

Yeah, sometimes it takes a while to catch on to that, that's for sure lol

Thank you so much! =)

-Jenn, AEP (ADD, Bi-Polar, Anxiety/Depression)

Proud Momma of Cory Albert (14yrs ADHD), h Dawn (12yrs

Anxiety/Depression)

and Jerry Lee " Trey " (9yrs ADHD, Bi-Polar, Asperger's)

-- Re: ( ) If they cant do it right......

All is good if they are happy...even if it is not how or what we imagined!

I'm still coming to terms with that myself. I am glad you all had a good

night :-)

- C.

Mom to Cassie 16 PCOS, Austin 14 ADHD and a 3.5 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

Re: ( ) If they cant do it right......

>>>I also read in a parents magazine to turn a colander over and have your

child put uncooked spaghetti noodles through the holes...hmmm...may try

that

too!<<<

That sounds like fun! We're having a " kids night " tonight because DH is

out

of town for work until tomorrow night so we always watch a movie and play

games and have snack time ~gasp~ in the living room! lol

I wonder if I have any spaghetti noodles, that'd be a fun thing to do and

we

can make it into a game. Thanks for the idea!

-Jenn, AEP (ADD, Bi-Polar, Anxiety/Depression)

Proud Momma of Cory Albert (14yrs ADHD), h Dawn (12yrs

Anxiety/Depression)

and Jerry Lee " Trey " (9yrs ADHD, Bi-Polar, Asperger's)

March 26, 2007

No, I don't think writing is a milestone at that age by any means!

However, they did test my son to be able to write a cross and trace

lines.... so maybe that is?! I am unsure, but WRITING - no way. My

NT kid couldn't do it until age 5.

> >

> > Do 3 years olds write?

> >

> > Roxanna

> > ( ) If they cant do it right......

> >

> > I have a question...Does anyone else have issues with their child

> not even trying something because they " know " they cant do it right?

> >

> > a is 3.5 yo and will not even pretend to write because " I cant

> do it " I have finally figured it out that she doesn't want to pretend

> to write...because she knows that's not correct. We working on

> learning how to write, but with a child that doesn't like to color and

> has weak hands...its difficult.

> >

> > But the same is true for other things..unless she " knows " she can

> do it correctly she wont try. She will not try to draw a square

> because her lines aren't perfect.

> >

> > Any one else deal will such things...I figure this will " grow "

> into more areas as she gets older.

> >

> > Thanks for any insight

> >

> > - C.

> > Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

> >

March 26, 2007

My son is also 3 and they want him to be able to draw a straight line up and

down, Circle, and a Criss Cross. He is in EELP and at the beginning of the

school year he couldn't do any of them. Now he is doing all of it. Not perfect

mind you but he is doing it on his own now. Besides it doesn't say anywhere

where children need to be budding artists. My little one will be 4 in August so

that may help you. I also received from the school system the Pre-k and

Kindergarten requirements. They are pretty basic but I know we have 2 other play

dates around austin's age and these 2 other children at the age of 3 that are

considered normal Well, Austin is ahead of them on some things and with

Asperger's so honestly I know getting him into public school full time has just

helped him emensely. It's not for everyone and every child but they also have

children in the class that are moderately Autistic and it has helped them as

well. But I know I compare Austin to other children and

honestly normal children go through allot of the same things. Some parents are

just to embarassed to admit it. So if you think your child is way behind chances

are you are like me and tend to lean toward is every little thing austin

experiences due to Aspergers. The answer is no it's typical 3 year old behavior.

Ada

Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote:

I guess I worded that wrong. I should have said, Do 3 year olds have

to be able to write developmentally. I don't think so. Before we get upset that

our kids are not doing something, we should check to see if it's developmentally

appropriate for their age.

Roxanna

( ) If they cant do it right......

>

> I have a question...Does anyone else have issues with their child

not even trying something because they " know " they cant do it right?

>

> a is 3.5 yo and will not even pretend to write because " I cant

do it " I have finally figured it out that she doesn't want to pretend

to write...because she knows that's not correct. We working on

learning how to write, but with a child that doesn't like to color and

has weak hands...its difficult.

>

> But the same is true for other things..unless she " knows " she can

do it correctly she wont try. She will not try to draw a square

because her lines aren't perfect.

>

> Any one else deal will such things...I figure this will " grow "

into more areas as she gets older.

>

> Thanks for any insight

>

> - C.

> Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

>

March 26, 2007

Okay...Yes a is only 3.5 yo but...

She will not/can not draw, color, doodle or scribble.

Yes she can make a circle shape (sort of) and the " cross or x " shape to pass

the " tests " but beyond that...

I wasn't meaning to say I think she has to write correctly right now....I just

want to encourage her and head off any problems before they come up.

I did get the hand writing with out tears stuff in the mails and will be

starting that with her, but it is really neat and starts off with just dots and

lines :-)

I have gotten a lot of great idea from all of you..Thanks!

- C.

Mom to Cassie 16 PCOS, Austin 14 ADHD and a 3.5 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

( ) If they cant do it right......

> >

> > I have a question...Does anyone else have issues with their child

> not even trying something because they " know " they cant do it right?

> >

> > a is 3.5 yo and will not even pretend to write because " I cant

> do it " I have finally figured it out that she doesn't want to pretend

> to write...because she knows that's not correct. We working on

> learning how to write, but with a child that doesn't like to color and

> has weak hands...its difficult.

> >

> > But the same is true for other things..unless she " knows " she can

> do it correctly she wont try. She will not try to draw a square

> because her lines aren't perfect.

> >

> > Any one else deal will such things...I figure this will " grow "

> into more areas as she gets older.

> >

> > Thanks for any insight

> >

> > - C.

> > Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

> >

March 27, 2007

Oh. I guess I read it wrong because I thought you were upset that she isn't

writing her alphabet letters yet. You can introduce coloring and writing

" skills " in a variety of ways. Kids often like things like magna doodles. Or

the new play mats that you write on with water pens - very cool. They also have

that paper that turns all sorts of colors when you draw on it. It pays to be a

kid these days. I would make easy little mazes or buy some - those are fun too.

You can also figure out ways to play with dough - they have those kits now where

you stick a wad of play dough in the machine and out comes shapes or hair on a

doll.

I would also concentrate on being silly. Also spend time making mistakes and

talking about it outloud as well as reading some social stories about making

mistakes. I have kids like this as well as I grew up being that way. So I even

talk to myself and say, " Hey, nobody is perfect! " So I tend to say it so the

kids can hear it and know that it's ok to make mistakes.

I would make this part of the day, every day. And if she hates it, find ways to

make it as fun as possible and reward her after for working at it. I work with

a little guy who is not into writing just because his fine motor is awful and he

has no desire either - so it's always hard to work on fine motor with him, even

fun things! After a while though, he gets used to the idea and eventually

starts doing it. He is working on assembling a 4 piece puzzle right now. It's

a struggle for him and he has no interest. So I praise a lot, reward a lot,

make jokes and giggles throughout to try and make it fun as possible. he may

never grow up and want to do fine motor stuff as a general rule - but he will be

able to do the minimum and that is important.