Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. Every year they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter last night saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for the staff, etc. And that this was a reward to those students who did well and behaved all year. He is to sit in a classroom and do work all day while the others attend the picnic. I am LIVID right now, just left a message w/ the school to have their social worker call me asap. What should I say? I just feel for him. He will feel so left out and I know what I will have to deal with for days to come after tomorrow. Holly __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Oh Holly, that is horrible!! I would be on the phone to the super intendant ASAP. The school can't deny him because of his disorder. I would also threaten to call my attorney. That is what I would call discrimination. Your son will be hurt and embarrassed I am sure. I have two boys with AS and have had so many battles with schools. I have had to call my attorney for advice, they can't discriminate against him. He should be rewarded for being able to go to school and dealing with the difficulty that we as parents know that they have to deal with. Let me know what you do. Sincerely, ' Janelle -- ( ) Need advice asap My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. Every year they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter last night saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for the staff etc. And that this was a reward to those students who did well and behaved all year. He is to sit in a classroom and do work all day while the others attend the picnic. I am LIVID right now, just left a message w/ the school to have their social worker call me asap. What should I say? I just feel for him. He will feel so left out and I know what I will have to deal with for days to come after tomorrow. Holly __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Thank you - your thoughts are just like my own. That letter made me cry. He really likes his reading teacher and brought her flowers today. He is a loving child when you earn his respect. This just breaks my heart. He already feels like he doesnt belong, and if they single him out he will be so heartbroken. Holly advocateforaspies <advocateforaspies@...> wrote: Hello hello! First off, that would bug me too. They are leaving him out because of his inability to handle things and it is NOT his fault. I am absolutely bothered by this. In my opinion, If this were my son (basically we have had a similar situations!) I would keep him home for the day AND YOU TWO can go out and do something much more rewarding than a picnic. Then, I would bring it up to their attention that your son has a NEUROLOGICAL Disorder,,, that, just as a man with Alzheimers has difficulty managing his behavior at times, your son can't always manage his own behavior. Let them know that your son is NOT trying to DISRESPECT the staff, he is trying to function in a world that isn't that accepting of him yet. Punishing him for behavior he has difficulty with is not how things should be handled. Absolutely I WOULD NOT let him go to school that day. That is just me but he doesn't deserve that kind of treatment! Of course, I am REALLY upset right now,,,,,, I can't stand it when people put expectations on our children that can't be attainable! That really bothers me! This is just another way to make him feel left out, and that, to me , is totally unacceptable! I , of course, would be very level headed (at least I would try) in dealing with them. That doesn't mean you can let them walk all over you, but no reason to go crazy. However, be firm, and stick by what you know is right. DON'T let them take your DEVELOPMENTALLY delayed child and make him feel worse. After all, I don't know how to fly an Aircraft, and , EVEN if the u.s.a. told me I am going to PRISON unless I can fly it tomorrow, I would STILL not be able to fly it. I would need training and help to handle such a task. YES THAT IS THE SAME with our Aspies. They need assistance, and help with functioning sometimes, and NOT punishment to fix EVERYTHING! Sure we have consequences, but only for things that we ABSOLUTELY can handle NOT just sometimes, but all of the time! OK, I have gone on... sorry! I hope this helps. I have to leave for the doctors appointment but this is something I HAD to comment on! *YOU GO GIRL* Stand up for your son, don't back down, and DON'T let him go to school for a PUNISHMENT!! That is just not right (in my opinion!) *hugs* to you! I hope you can straighten them out! *smiles* (with gritting teeth for the school.... but smiles for you!) Bishop > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. Every year they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter last night saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for the staff, etc. And that this was a reward to those students who did well and behaved all year. He is to sit in a classroom and do work all day while the others attend the picnic. I am LIVID right now, just left a message w/ the school to have their social worker call me asap. What should I say? > > I just feel for him. He will feel so left out and I know what I will have to deal with for days to come after tomorrow. > > Holly > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 So much for the school helping with his socialization skills, eh? I just dealt with something similar on Monday and Tuesday. Monday was the school carnival and Tuesday was the 7th grade field trip to Sacramento to watch a minor league baseball game. I assumed my daughter was going to both---we'd never been told any differently. We'd sent in the money for the field trip and the permission slip. Then we got a call on Monday saying we needed to pick her up. That she had been 86'd from both activities due to poor grades and blaming her teachers for the grades. Livid doesn't even begin to cover it! No one had ever said anything to us about this possibility. I KNEW this would cause a major meltdown. When I got to the school I had a long talk with the principal, who kept saying " These are priviledges, not rights. " I asked him to show me where on the info sheets for these activities it said that you had to meet a certain grade requirement to attend them. He couldn't. I said that I agreed that she shouldn't be " rewarded " for poor grades, but that the bottom line was it's the seventh grade field trip, and she's a seventh grader. That's the only qualification I ever saw. We compromised. She didn't go to the carnival, but she got to go on the field trip. However, she had to write notes of apology to the principal and all the teachers she bad-mouthed in able to be allowed to go. Maybe you could work out a similar compromise? Perhaps if he apologizes to any of the staff that there's been problems with, and you stick to him like glue throughout the entire picnic? It's worth a try. Hope this helps. Pat-Mom to Josh (16 yo AS) and Sara ( 13 yo AS) Holly <ritaNricosmama@...> wrote: My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. Every year they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter last night saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for the staff, etc. And that this was a reward to those students who did well and behaved all year. He is to sit in a classroom and do work all day while the others attend the picnic. I am LIVID right now, just left a message w/ the school to have their social worker call me asap. What should I say? I just feel for him. He will feel so left out and I know what I will have to deal with for days to come after tomorrow. Holly __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 I am so angry at your situation that I could spit myself. We had a go-round with Track and Field Day, and how the other kids were afraid of him because he had recently acquired a pushing issue. I spent the day at school that day, and nothing happened. He even participated in the events, with no issues. This seems a little sudden notice in any case. They can't make up rules as they please. Jackie, out of school for 5 days and the blood pressure's coming down! > > -- ( ) Need advice asap > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to > Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. > Every year > they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter > last night > saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for > the staff > etc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Hello, First of all, does your child have an IEP with that school? Is there a written document signed by all parties indicating he is to get special help wtih social emotional needs? If so, then I'd get my behind to that school in person, firmly and politely ask to speak to the principal immediately, if she isn't available then the next in line, asst principal, then social worker, etc. Inquire of them why they waited until end of year to indicate that your child needed (more) assistance with his social/emotional needs? Also I'd say that it is inappropriate to chastise the child and leave him out of a positive social experience, due to their lack of ability to meet his special needs. It is also no excuse that they did not inform his teachers of his special needs and therefore it is the school's fault this situation exists. I'd call for an immediate IEP meeting and get it in specifics on that document, that they are to contact you whenver your child is having a " difficult " day, instead of letting his stress and anxiety snowball to where it comes across as rudeness, to uninformed teachers. I would also tell the principal you fully intend to bring your child to that picnic and stay with him for the day, so you can see how well they are meeting his social/emotional needs, because to remove him from a social event of such magnitude, ie end of school picnic with his peers, is totally detrimental and against, a school's agreement on an IEP to help meet that child's special needs, and that of encouraging his progress in life skills. ::pant pant:: Get the idea here? And if he is NOT on an IEP with that school? Immediately call for testing right now, so he can get an IEP so that in the future they cannot use a negative reinfocement to try to teach him how he misbehaved the whole past year : ) That IEP is your child's protection also, not just his help to have his special needs met. How dare they do something like this, when they haven't contacted your over the whole year about his disrespectful attitude in school (supposed disrespectful)? Thats negligence, in my eyes. I wonder how they treated him, each time he supposedly was disrespectful? Did they handle each incident properly? IMO,from what I understand so far, I'd have to say absolutely not! Yeap, I bet every AS parent reading your entry today has their hackles up over this one! I'm sure they don't want a lawyer coming in there telling them of their abuse of your child. See what you can work out nicely first, with principal, not someone lower on the ladder of school authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 > > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to > > Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. Every > > year they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter > > last night saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of > > respect for the staff, etc. And that this was a reward to those > > students who did well and behaved all year. He is to sit in a > > classroom and do work all day while the others attend the picnic. I am > > LIVID right now, just left a message w/ the school to have their > > social worker call me asap. What should I say? > > > > I just feel for him. He will feel so left out and I know what I will > > have to deal with for days to come after tomorrow. > > > > Holly > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 The same thing happened to me!! My son is in a regular second grade class while we wait for his evaluations. His teacher actually called me to let me know that he was disinvited to the Easter Party the next day due to his behavior. She wanted me to keep him home!! As if I don't work. So she told me that they were going to put him in another class that day. I was so upset but you know what, Elijah came home that day saying how much he loved the other class. The students in that class were nicer. He told me " mommy there are no bullies in that class " . He didn't take it so bad because I made it up to him that weekend. But I can totally relate. Some of these teachers forget that they are dealing with children. --- hoyajbk <JillBKern@...> wrote: > > > > > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. > This school is new to > > > Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately > has been doing ok. Every > > > year they have an end of the year school picnic. > They sent me a letter > > > last night saying he wouldnt be able to attend > due to his lack of > > > respect for the staff, etc. And that this was a > reward to those > > > students who did well and behaved all year. He > is to sit in a > > > classroom and do work all day while the others > attend the picnic. I am > > > LIVID right now, just left a message w/ the > school to have their > > > social worker call me asap. What should I say? > > > > > > I just feel for him. He will feel so left out > and I know what I will > > > have to deal with for days to come after > tomorrow. > > > > > > Holly > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 I just talked to the social worker, who is a very nice woman. Apparently he was seen masturbating? in class yesterday. Ok.... I think thats probably a harsh word for what he was doing. I wasnt there, but have never seen that type of behavior from him? And of course no one called me - AND it was my day off, I was home all day. I was just speechless at that. Anyone else deal with that? There are 4 children they just dont feel " comfortable " taking off school grounds to the picnic, so he isnt alone. She says they dont have the staff needed if something does happen and he has a meltdown.They sent me this letter 2 days before the picnic(which he hid from me until this morning) so it didnt give me time to make arrangements at my job to miss tomorrow either. I did ask if he could go to his grandmas, and she said yes. He knows the picnic is tomorrow and is very excited about it. Thats all he has been talking about all week. No one has told him he couldnt attend. Thats why I was so upset at the letter, because he is so looking forward to going. Just breaks my heart. Luckily he has one week of school left and I am home all summer with him during our relocation. I just hope he takes the move ok. Holly Jackie Geipel <jackie@...> wrote: I am so angry at your situation that I could spit myself. We had a go-round with Track and Field Day, and how the other kids were afraid of him because he had recently acquired a pushing issue. I spent the day at school that day, and nothing happened. He even participated in the events, with no issues. This seems a little sudden notice in any case. They can't make up rules as they please. Jackie, out of school for 5 days and the blood pressure's coming down! > > -- ( ) Need advice asap > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to > Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. > Every year > they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter > last night > saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for > the staff > etc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Just a thought, but can grandma attend the picnic to be his " aide " . With my son, his teachers like that I attend certain events, to focus on him - but instead I usually help all the other kids and not my son. laura (the lurker) Holly <ritaNricosmama@...> wrote: I just talked to the social worker, who is a very nice woman. Apparently he was seen masturbating? in class yesterday. Ok.... I think thats probably a harsh word for what he was doing. I wasnt there, but have never seen that type of behavior from him? And of course no one called me - AND it was my day off, I was home all day. I was just speechless at that. Anyone else deal with that? There are 4 children they just dont feel " comfortable " taking off school grounds to the picnic, so he isnt alone. She says they dont have the staff needed if something does happen and he has a meltdown.They sent me this letter 2 days before the picnic(which he hid from me until this morning) so it didnt give me time to make arrangements at my job to miss tomorrow either. I did ask if he could go to his grandmas, and she said yes. He knows the picnic is tomorrow and is very excited about it. Thats all he has been talking about all week. No one has told him he couldnt attend. Thats why I was so upset at the letter, because he is so looking forward to going. Just breaks my heart. Luckily he has one week of school left and I am home all summer with him during our relocation. I just hope he takes the move ok. Holly Jackie Geipel <jackie@...> wrote: I am so angry at your situation that I could spit myself. We had a go-round with Track and Field Day, and how the other kids were afraid of him because he had recently acquired a pushing issue. I spent the day at school that day, and nothing happened. He even participated in the events, with no issues. This seems a little sudden notice in any case. They can't make up rules as they please. Jackie, out of school for 5 days and the blood pressure's coming down! > > -- ( ) Need advice asap > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to > Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. > Every year > they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter > last night > saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for > the staff > etc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Holly, Does he have a parapro? If not you need to look at including that in his IEP. Schools have rules for disrespect and I have been there. They are just now getting it and I have two with AS both have gone through the same school and is now in fifth. I have had to break the way. So the staff is aware of his problem. I would try my best to find someone if you can't go to get him to that picnic. For two reasons because he has look forward to it and for social issues. Did they ever tell you that if he was showing disrespect that he would be exclude? You also need to make sure in his IEP that he is able to be include in all activities. During school and extra activities. I have this on both my sons and since then they have not been exclude because of behavior. And this is and AS issue. I feel the school just doesn't want to put forth the effort. Are the other kids exclude also? I would look into that as well. I know you are running short on time but if they go and yours does not then I would be calling the BOE. Good Luck, Mom of 12ys w/AS Mom of 10 ys w/hyperlexia/AS Wife of husband w/AS <cmcintosh5@...> wrote: K.. Jumping in and I am ticked off!! Tell me a kid in Grade one.. Boy.. Who doesn't pull on his peter.. I mean REALLY??!! I used to joke with my nephew.. Who isn't autistic.. That " trust me honey.. If you let go if it.. I promise.. It won't fall off!!!! " ALL MEN RE ADJUST THE JEWELS like it was the best thing in town!! Tell High school students the same thing! My son didn't have this issue.. But the teachers are bailing and NOT teaching the other children that all are to be included. Can you take a day off work and go in with him? I think you should.. Or have a teenager go with him.. Or something.. This is disgusting.. He is aware of it.. And this certainly smacks of prejudice.. Tell them NO and its their responsibility to make sure he's safe.. Its a scheduled school day That being said.. I wouldn't send him unless you had someone to go with him.. That you know and trust personally.. They aren't to be trusted.. That's my idea now.. -- ( ) Need advice asap > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to > Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. > Every year > they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter > last night > saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for > the staff > etc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 My heart goes out to you! I wish that teachers would realize that our children need additional help learning things that other students pick up easily. A teacher who does not understand that it is necessary to teach the student with AS seemingly obvious things will feel impatient and irritated. I found an article on O.A.S.I.S. at http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/karen_williams_guidelines.html that I found helpful in explaining AS to my child's teachers. I copied it into a word program, went through and pulled out text that related to my child. I typed up a paper where I inserted my son's name to the behaviors that he exhibits. This has helped his teachers to understand him better and help him get out of difficult situations. Another thing I do every year is talk to each of the teachers that will be teaching the following year. It is important that our children have teachers who are open to new teaching techniques. Old school teachers and administrators who expect our children to fit into a " good student " mold will not see the successes our children are experiencing. Teachers need to understand that there is a funny balancing act we have to do with AS children. They need a great deal of understanding and patience to learn how to be successful but they also need a gentle firmness to help them stay on task and keep their thoughts from wandering, and if you push them too hard or too fast they will melt down right in the middle of the classroom. Then they need even more support to help them calm down. Rushing the child with AS only slows things down! Good Luck! Shir Holly <ritaNricosmama@...> wrote: I just talked to the social worker, who is a very nice woman. Apparently he was seen masturbating? in class yesterday. Ok.... I think thats probably a harsh word for what he was doing. I wasnt there, but have never seen that type of behavior from him? And of course no one called me - AND it was my day off, I was home all day. I was just speechless at that. Anyone else deal with that? There are 4 children they just dont feel " comfortable " taking off school grounds to the picnic, so he isnt alone. She says they dont have the staff needed if something does happen and he has a meltdown.They sent me this letter 2 days before the picnic(which he hid from me until this morning) so it didnt give me time to make arrangements at my job to miss tomorrow either. I did ask if he could go to his grandmas, and she said yes. He knows the picnic is tomorrow and is very excited about it. Thats all he has been talking about all week. No one has told him he couldnt attend. Thats why I was so upset at the letter, because he is so looking forward to going. Just breaks my heart. Luckily he has one week of school left and I am home all summer with him during our relocation. I just hope he takes the move ok. Holly Jackie Geipel <jackie@...> wrote: I am so angry at your situation that I could spit myself. We had a go-round with Track and Field Day, and how the other kids were afraid of him because he had recently acquired a pushing issue. I spent the day at school that day, and nothing happened. He even participated in the events, with no issues. This seems a little sudden notice in any case. They can't make up rules as they please. Jackie, out of school for 5 days and the blood pressure's coming down! > > -- ( ) Need advice asap > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to > Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. > Every year > they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter > last night > saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for > the staff > etc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 I went into work today and theres no way I can get out of work. I am waiting for my mother in law to call me back to see what she can do for me tomorrow. I just think that telling me my son was masterbating really was harsh. I know he has NO clue what that means, my goodness - he is 6 1/2. My hubby is in Alabama right now and is so upset over all this and I havent even told him about my conversation w/ the social worker yet! Holly <cmcintosh5@...> wrote: K.. Jumping in and I am ticked off!! Tell me a kid in Grade one.. Boy.. Who doesn't pull on his peter.. I mean REALLY??!! I used to joke with my nephew.. Who isn't autistic.. That " trust me honey.. If you let go if it.. I promise.. It won't fall off!!!! " ALL MEN RE ADJUST THE JEWELS like it was the best thing in town!! Tell High school students the same thing! My son didn't have this issue.. But the teachers are bailing and NOT teaching the other children that all are to be included. Can you take a day off work and go in with him? I think you should.. Or have a teenager go with him.. Or something.. This is disgusting.. He is aware of it.. And this certainly smacks of prejudice.. Tell them NO and its their responsibility to make sure he's safe.. Its a scheduled school day That being said.. I wouldn't send him unless you had someone to go with him.. That you know and trust personally.. They aren't to be trusted.. That's my idea now.. -- ( ) Need advice asap > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to > Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. > Every year > they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter > last night > saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for > the staff > etc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 , I am waiting for her to call me back, she wasnt home when I called. I do go on his field trips with him also....they tell me its in " his " best interest if I attend them! Holly " (Crosby) " <usmlaura@...> wrote: Just a thought, but can grandma attend the picnic to be his " aide " . With my son, his teachers like that I attend certain events, to focus on him - but instead I usually help all the other kids and not my son. laura (the lurker) Holly <ritaNricosmama@...> wrote: I just talked to the social worker, who is a very nice woman. Apparently he was seen masturbating? in class yesterday. Ok.... I think thats probably a harsh word for what he was doing. I wasnt there, but have never seen that type of behavior from him? And of course no one called me - AND it was my day off, I was home all day. I was just speechless at that. Anyone else deal with that? There are 4 children they just dont feel " comfortable " taking off school grounds to the picnic, so he isnt alone. She says they dont have the staff needed if something does happen and he has a meltdown.They sent me this letter 2 days before the picnic(which he hid from me until this morning) so it didnt give me time to make arrangements at my job to miss tomorrow either. I did ask if he could go to his grandmas, and she said yes. He knows the picnic is tomorrow and is very excited about it. Thats all he has been talking about all week. No one has told him he couldnt attend. Thats why I was so upset at the letter, because he is so looking forward to going. Just breaks my heart. Luckily he has one week of school left and I am home all summer with him during our relocation. I just hope he takes the move ok. Holly Jackie Geipel <jackie@...> wrote: I am so angry at your situation that I could spit myself. We had a go-round with Track and Field Day, and how the other kids were afraid of him because he had recently acquired a pushing issue. I spent the day at school that day, and nothing happened. He even participated in the events, with no issues. This seems a little sudden notice in any case. They can't make up rules as they please. Jackie, out of school for 5 days and the blood pressure's coming down! > > -- ( ) Need advice asap > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to > Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. > Every year > they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter > last night > saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for > the staff > etc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 You are such a good mom! You love your son so much! How lucky he is to have you *hugs* I am sure he is just a wonderful boy that wants to be accepted and the fact that he loves his reading teacher... that is just wonderful. You keep trucking!!!! I want to hear how it goes. I know you don't know me, but if I lived near you (and IT IS OBVIOUS you would have to know and trust me) I would take your son for the day with my kids and we would have a ball! Forget the school *grin* Seriously, I think your ?mother? would be a much better choice! My son once said, " mom, isn't it weird how that kid was nice to me and then mean " and I said< " Yes. It is interesting how kids can try to hurt other kids. I think that maybe those kids are not treated nicely by someone else, so they try to pick on other kids to feel better. DO you think he was able to hurt you? Or did he fail? " My son, that time, said that he failed because my son understood what this kid was trying to do. We talk about how other kids may try to be mean, and even adults and I get my son to really understand what he is up against, and that it is ok to feel dissapointed or hurt, but at least he knows I get him and love him to death. The more you can talk about things like this, the better off I THINK he will be in the end! *smiles* to you, (who is pretty calm, for now. hehehe) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 ditto!!!! Handle it nicely to start, but if you meet with a brick wall, it is ti me to become a brick wall CRASHER *Grin* Fill us in on if there is an IEP. I want to know if he has support, if not it is time they start getting some for him. Boy, we are all so spitting mad! Don't you love the support you have here? *hugs* B > > Hello, > > First of all, does your child have an IEP with that school? Is there > a written document signed by all parties indicating he is to get > special help wtih social emotional needs? If so, then I'd get my > behind to that school in person, firmly and politely ask to speak to > the principal immediately, if she isn't available then the next in > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Holly, thanks for updating us. FIRST< I wonder about this masturbating issue? I wonder if that is really made up and they are just using it as an 'easy' excuse. If you have never seen him do this, then perhaps there is more that needs to be talked about (what is going on at school, causing him to do something like that?!?!?!) Of course no one called you. I can see them hiding behind paper work. Yeah, surprise you with such a thing and hope you won't have time to try to fix it. There are 4 kids they don't feel 'comfortable' taking off school grounds? Well, isn't that too bad!?!?! That is what they are doing with the other kids, so perhaps they shouldn't take ANY of the kids off the grounds. They will just have to GET the staff they need, and you should not be responsible for that. That is what he needs help with and they need to be prepared or send him someplace where he can get what he needs. It is too bad he is excited about the picnic. We are having rain here in Maine, wish I could send it your way (sorry I said that *grin*) You know Holly, if he loves going to school, let him miss a day and finish the year and start off in the new school with a plan. Get things going to get him the support he needs. Has he enjoyed this last couple of weeks? I am SOO glad you are on the move!! I hope to a better place, too:) *hugs* lisa B > > Luckily he has one week of school left and I am home all summer with him during our relocation. I just hope he takes the move ok. > > Holly > Jackie Geipel <jackie@...> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 No IEP - they have given him a support group and a special teacher 3 x's a wk. I am so glad were moving, hoping to have better luck in Alabama. They did find out what he had and lead me in the right direction with him, it just seems they dont know how to handle him at all? Aspergers is a whole new world to them at this school. Holly advocateforaspies <advocateforaspies@...> wrote: ditto!!!! Handle it nicely to start, but if you meet with a brick wall, it is ti me to become a brick wall CRASHER *Grin* Fill us in on if there is an IEP. I want to know if he has support, if not it is time they start getting some for him. Boy, we are all so spitting mad! Don't you love the support you have here? *hugs* B > > Hello, > > First of all, does your child have an IEP with that school? Is there > a written document signed by all parties indicating he is to get > special help wtih social emotional needs? If so, then I'd get my > behind to that school in person, firmly and politely ask to speak to > the principal immediately, if she isn't available then the next in > Motor City Kennels American Staffordshire Terriers and English Bulldogs Home to CH IPK's Scar the Black Dragon __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 K.. Jumping in and I am ticked off!! Tell me a kid in Grade one.. Boy.. Who doesn't pull on his peter.. I mean REALLY??!! I used to joke with my nephew.. Who isn't autistic.. That " trust me honey.. If you let go if it.. I promise.. It won't fall off!!!! " ALL MEN RE ADJUST THE JEWELS like it was the best thing in town!! Tell High school students the same thing! My son didn't have this issue.. But the teachers are bailing and NOT teaching the other children that all are to be included. Can you take a day off work and go in with him? I think you should.. Or have a teenager go with him.. Or something.. This is disgusting.. He is aware of it.. And this certainly smacks of prejudice.. Tell them NO and its their responsibility to make sure he's safe.. Its a scheduled school day That being said.. I wouldn't send him unless you had someone to go with him.. That you know and trust personally.. They aren't to be trusted.. That's my idea now.. -- ( ) Need advice asap > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to > Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. > Every year > they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter > last night > saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for > the staff > etc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 I would be LIVID to..... I hope you can sort something out Cheers Jaxx (New Zealand) ( ) Need advice asap > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to > Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. Every > year they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter > last night saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect > for the staff, etc. And that this was a reward to those students who did > well and behaved all year. He is to sit in a classroom and do work all day > while the others attend the picnic. I am LIVID right now, just left a > message w/ the school to have their social worker call me asap. What > should I say? > > I just feel for him. He will feel so left out and I know what I will have > to deal with for days to come after tomorrow. > > Holly > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 that is horrible, but I know what you mean, my Son won a Subway(foot long) and was to be able to invite 5 friends to share it with him at the school, but within the month of school getting out, the counselor told him he would not be able to have the Subway party for him and his friends because he was failing 2 classes, the winning of the sub sandwich had nothing to do with whether or not he was failing or not, so he was denied the party.......with friends, which would of been such a great thing for him........the social interaction and friendship is just as important for my Son, and something like this, would of probably given him the boost he needed to do better in his classes, but the teachers/counselors...etc....all have the theory if your failing or not doing well, then lets take away some fun stuff, but on the other hand, the fun stuff to me, helps them to better focus on the not so fun stuff.......BTW my son was main streamed all year,,,,,,,,,,,and the final year end report card........he failed science and social studies not only for the quarter but for the whole semester.........all F's and mostly it was because both the teachers of these classes.........were very rude, did nothing to help him, made a mockery of him in front of the classes, so my Son shut down, and would not participate, which then snow balled back on him, because they didn't care what disabilities he had, he had to do what everyone else did, they said he was NON compliant, but somehow he moves on to the next grade which is 9th grade, a new school, and I am sure he was already been let known he was non-compliant, despite all my attempts to get an IEP, and get him help, and get this they told me he did not qualify for summer school, only the kids who are below proficient could go, as funding was sparse, well excuse me an F would be below proficient, but what to do I know...........and that folks is the public school system for you, it doesn't get any easier or better the older they get. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Holly, I hope it works out for you and your son, I don't have any advise, I just wanted to say that my heart goes out to you and your son. What a bunch of jerks in that school system to single out a little boy in the 1st grade. I hope you find/found the solution that works the best for your little guy. Holly <ritaNricosmama@...> wrote: Thank you - your thoughts are just like my own. That letter made me cry. He really likes his reading teacher and brought her flowers today. He is a loving child when you earn his respect. This just breaks my heart. He already feels like he doesnt belong, and if they single him out he will be so heartbroken. Holly advocateforaspies <advocateforaspies@...> wrote: Hello hello! First off, that would bug me too. They are leaving him out because of his inability to handle things and it is NOT his fault. I am absolutely bothered by this. In my opinion, If this were my son (basically we have had a similar situations!) I would keep him home for the day AND YOU TWO can go out and do something much more rewarding than a picnic. Then, I would bring it up to their attention that your son has a NEUROLOGICAL Disorder,,, that, just as a man with Alzheimers has difficulty managing his behavior at times, your son can't always manage his own behavior. Let them know that your son is NOT trying to DISRESPECT the staff, he is trying to function in a world that isn't that accepting of him yet. Punishing him for behavior he has difficulty with is not how things should be handled. Absolutely I WOULD NOT let him go to school that day. That is just me but he doesn't deserve that kind of treatment! Of course, I am REALLY upset right now,,,,,, I can't stand it when people put expectations on our children that can't be attainable! That really bothers me! This is just another way to make him feel left out, and that, to me , is totally unacceptable! I , of course, would be very level headed (at least I would try) in dealing with them. That doesn't mean you can let them walk all over you, but no reason to go crazy. However, be firm, and stick by what you know is right. DON'T let them take your DEVELOPMENTALLY delayed child and make him feel worse. After all, I don't know how to fly an Aircraft, and , EVEN if the u.s.a. told me I am going to PRISON unless I can fly it tomorrow, I would STILL not be able to fly it. I would need training and help to handle such a task. YES THAT IS THE SAME with our Aspies. They need assistance, and help with functioning sometimes, and NOT punishment to fix EVERYTHING! Sure we have consequences, but only for things that we ABSOLUTELY can handle NOT just sometimes, but all of the time! OK, I have gone on... sorry! I hope this helps. I have to leave for the doctors appointment but this is something I HAD to comment on! *YOU GO GIRL* Stand up for your son, don't back down, and DON'T let him go to school for a PUNISHMENT!! That is just not right (in my opinion!) *hugs* to you! I hope you can straighten them out! *smiles* (with gritting teeth for the school.... but smiles for you!) Bishop > > My son is still in regular classes, 1st grade. This school is new to Aspergers. I know he has meltdowns but lately has been doing ok. Every year they have an end of the year school picnic. They sent me a letter last night saying he wouldnt be able to attend due to his lack of respect for the staff, etc. And that this was a reward to those students who did well and behaved all year. He is to sit in a classroom and do work all day while the others attend the picnic. I am LIVID right now, just left a message w/ the school to have their social worker call me asap. What should I say? > > I just feel for him. He will feel so left out and I know what I will have to deal with for days to come after tomorrow. > > Holly > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Hey Shirley, THANKS SO MUCH for that link. i have printed it WITH COPIES! *SMILES* lisa B > > My heart goes out to you! I wish that teachers would realize that our children need additional help learning things that other students pick up easily. A teacher who does not understand that it is necessary to teach the student with AS seemingly obvious things will feel impatient and irritated. I found an article on O.A.S.I.S. at http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/karen_williams_guidelines.html that I found helpful in explaining AS to my child's teachers. I copied it into a word program, went through and pulled out text that related to my child. I typed up a paper where I inserted my Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Ok, that was JUST WRONG! See Lynda, this is what I tend to complain about. THe fact that our kids h ave to fail and even then sometimes they don't get the help they need! Your poor little guy! I can't stand people like his school sometimes! Ok, can't get started, I have to leave *grin* B (p.s. thank goodness he has you!) > > that is horrible, but I know what you mean, my Son won a Subway (foot long) > and was to be able to invite 5 friends to share it with him at the school, but > within the month of school getting out, the counselor told him he would not > be able to have the Subway party for him and his friends because he was > failing 2 classes, the winning of the sub sandwich had nothing to do with whether > or not he was failing or not, so he was denied the party.......with friends, > which would of been such a great thing for him........the social interaction > and friendship is just as important for my Son, and something like this, would > of probably given him the boost he needed to do better in his classes, but > the teachers/counselors...etc....all have the theory if your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 > > I went into work today and theres no way I can get out of work. I am waiting for my mother in law to call me back to see what she can do for me tomorrow. I just think that telling me my son was masterbating really was harsh. I know he has NO clue what that means, my goodness - he is 6 1/2. My hubby is in Alabama right now and is so upset over all this and I havent even told him about my conversation w/ the social worker yet! > > Holly Dear Holly, What part of Alabama are you moving to? I live in the north part of Alabama in a small town and my ds was the first in the school system to have the Asperger's diagnosis. We have had a hard time getting appropriate services for him. We've even talked to the state education people and are not really getting anywhere. Our son is homeschooled right now. He's 12. So don't count on Alabama's educational system to help unless you will be residing in a large town. Dr. Jan Mathieson in Birmingham is an excellent pediatric neurologist. Dr. Brunsvold in Birmingham is an excellent pediatric psychiatrist. 's Place in Birmingham offers full psycho/educational assessments on autistic kids (including asperger's kids). They also have an afterschool social skills program for aspies. The state autism society has their office located at 's Place. Ask for at the autism office. As for the other thing, my son would rub up against something all the time when he was that age. I guess it felt good and he didn't even realize what he was doing. I had to keep on him over and over that was something to do in private. He did it a lot when he was stressed or was playing a computer or video game. I think they call it stimming (similar to repeatedly rocking or spinning or etc.). It is not what adult men or teenagers do and anyone with any knowledge about autism (i.e. teachers and/or administrators and/or special ed people) should know this. I'm sorry this happened to you and your ds. People can be so stupid about our kids. Good luck with your move. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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