Re: Hard to get daughter out of bed

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I have the same problem with my AS child. Here is her sleep routine:

I get her to school, I pick her up,I take her for something to eat on

the way home, we get home and she goes straigth upstairs and goes to

sleep. She wakes aruond 10pm or 11pm, is up for about oh..2 hours?,

then goes to sleep again. Then at 7am in the morning, I wake up, and

start regularly calling to her and waking her up, letting her know

the time each time, and telling her to get up and get dressed for

school...over and over....until she gets downright mean, cranky,

nasty, and finally gets dressed at last second, and she ends up about

5mins late to school. Ive talked to her therapist about this. She

said that I should go to bed at my own reguular time instead of

staying up to keep an eye on my daughter. At least mom would get some

normal sleep and be on a normal sleep cycle. Brilliant idea so far,,

so when I tell my daughter " im going to sleep now , good nite " , and

go to bed, within about 10minutes she turns off the tv and goes to

her room and eventually falls back asleep. So it definitely helps to

stick to y our own sleep schedule, though I know its hard at first to

do it, but DO it. As far as getting HER up in morning for school, I

just keep reminding my daughter of some positive or interesting thing

that is going on that day, like a huge snow storm outside, or some

class trip, or whatever. No matter what, I know I will get the

stubborness and basic refusal to get up, but she simply has to

anyways. I have started a new technique, and the school is impressed

witht his parental idea too. However much time my daughter is late

getting to school? I make her wait in the office there after school,

for the same amount of time, before I show up to pick her up. Its

working, she tries a bit more now, to not be late. Kids HATE having

to stay after school (grin). Tomorrow is her last day of school;

after that, I will continue the wake up process but let her sleep in

until about 10am instead.

I want to note, that her sleep cycle isn't all that bad. There

are a few good things about it. First off, my husband and I actually

have quiet time for ourselves together while she sleeps after school,

where we can talk together, run errands, or even just get outside and

work in the yard a bit. It gives us time to de-stress and relax some

before she wakes up agian. Also, shes noticing that we are spending

some time together, relaxing, and shes not going right to sleep as

soon as she gets home, every single day now. These are interesting

points to think about; makes me think that sometimes we get too

focused on trying to help our AS child, to where we begin to lose

sight of the family structure, or our own personal time to de-stress

as well. Sometimes things get so stressed when we have to stay on

top of her special needs and performance at school, that there is no

clear break noticeable, when they get home from school each day.

(especially with the homework battlezone each day, which should NOT

have to be a ''battlezone''.) These are just my thoughts, and a few

steps I have tried, that seem to work for our AS child and our family.

We allll love it when its summer break time : )

[Guest guest]

,

I am by no means a doctor. But I use to work with several young adults with

severe behavioral problems, some had AS. What we did was simply do controlled

natural consequences for the person that misbehaved. We would set up a schedule

with them and let them know that they must stick to the schedule or their day

will not go well and try to explain why. Let them experience real life if they

get up whenever and go to bed whenever. What happens to us when we get up

late? We would miss the bus, get fired, miss breakfast, not have time to take a

shower, our whole lives would be messed up. Let her experience some of that

now, as well as the joys and consequences of doing what she is suppose to do

when she does things correctly.

Tell her when mealtimes are, if she isn't there, she missed it, bread and

water for her. Tell her when the hot water will be on, she misses it, cold

shower for her. Tell her when bed time is, if she stays up, power goes off in

her room at that time. If she wants to sit in the dark, she does so not on your

dime.

She will learn if she wants a hot shower, decent food, and entertainment

during the hours she is awake, she will quickly learn what hours she needs to

be awake to be most beneficial to her. Otherwise, all she can take cold

showers, sit in the dark for hours every night, and eat cold leftovers and

bread. All you have to do is remember to turn off and on the power at the same

time everyday, no matter what she says or does, and be willing to be patient as

she tries everything to try and control you not to.

Just my advice, you know your child better than I, but this is just something

I would try. I cannot stand my neighbors daughter's that blast their music all

night. I so have been tempted to sneak over there and turn off their power so I

could get some sleep.

Take Care, and I wish you luck,

Donovan J Arnold

mary44mary44 <mary44mary44@...> wrote:

Hi all,

My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She screams

for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up, when

she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight, as

she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this common

with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

Thanks,

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

<cmcintosh5@...> wrote: You have described my son to a T!!!

I swear.. Mornings.. If his butt was on

fire.. That kid wouldn't rush for anything.. Drives me completely bonkers!!!

-- ( ) Hard to get daughter out of bed

Hi all,

My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She screams

for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up, when

she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight, as

she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this common

with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Yes their mind keeps working all the time. That is what three different doctors

told me. Both of mine are on medicine to help. One to get to sleep and the other

his behavior was unmanagable because he would not get enough sleep. Now I can

tell the next day when he missed it.

<cmcintosh5@...> wrote: You have

described my son to a T!!! I swear.. Mornings.. If his butt was on

fire.. That kid wouldn't rush for anything.. Drives me completely bonkers!!!

-- ( ) Hard to get daughter out of bed

Hi all,

My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She screams

for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up, when

she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight, as

she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this common

with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

You have described my son to a T!!! I swear.. Mornings.. If his butt was on

fire.. That kid wouldn't rush for anything.. Drives me completely bonkers!!!

-- ( ) Hard to get daughter out of bed

Hi all,

My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She screams

for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up, when

she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight, as

she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this common

with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We didn't have too much of a problem with bedtime, but getting up was

another story. Oh my. (It's much better now. He's 18 and gets up on

his own now, no big deal.) But for years, I approached him the way

I'd approach a wild tiger in a zoo. I'd poke my finger through the

bars and shake him awake, tell him quietly that in fifteen minutes he

had to get up, then beat a hasty retreat before he could throw

something at me. (I wouldn't really poke a finger at a tiger, you

know what I mean...) He'd usually get in a GO AWAY before I got out

of the room. In fifteen minutes, I'd go back and ask him if he wanted

to put on his shorts first or his shirt first. After some grumbling,

the shorts went on. And so on. So you see, you are not alone.

Liz

On Jun 8, 2006, at 3:36 AM, mary44mary44 wrote:

> Hi all,

> My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She screams

> for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up, when

> she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight, as

> she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this common

> with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

>

> Thanks,

[Guest guest]

My son is also hard to get up in the morning... he wants to sleep all day and

stay up all night. I used to make him go to school anyhow, but they just kept

sending him home, so I would ground him from the computer...or take the cords to

his xbox, I set a timer on his cable box so it goes off at the same time every

night... no tv past 11 pm, but he just waits til I go to bed and watches it in

the living room... so not sure what to tell you! All I know is it is common...

your doctor may be able to give you some medication to help her sleep at

night... but if she's like my son, he can force himself to stay up anyhow! Good

luck!

( ) Hard to get daughter out of bed

Hi all,

My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She screams

for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up, when

she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight, as

she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this common

with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

At Thu Jun 8, 2006, " Donovan Arnold " donovanjarnold2005@... wrote:

>

> Tell her when mealtimes are, if she isn't there, she missed it,

> bread and water for her. Tell her when the hot water will be on,

> she misses it, cold shower for her. Tell her when bed time is, if

> she stays up, power goes off in her room at that time. If she

> wants to sit in the dark, she does so not on your dime.

Donovan with all due respect, this seems just a bit harsh to me. And

I'm the 'tough one' in our family - which is why our kids say that

Mommy's nice and Daddy's mean. Could it be that your approach comes

from working with people in some sort of institutional setting vs. in

the home? I would not want to be this rough with one of my

children... at least I pray things never get to the point where I

felt that kind of treatment was called for.

Just my two cents and hope you don't mind my saying that.

> She will learn if she wants a hot shower, decent food, and

> entertainment during the hours she is awake, she will quickly

> learn what hours she needs to be awake to be most beneficial to her.

OTOH this does remind me of when I rented an attic apartment in

Brooklyn as a young single person. My landlord and I both caught the

7:00 am bus to the city and I'd always find myself taking an

uncomfortably cool shower in the morning. I was always rushing to get

out the door too, pushing the snooze button right to the limit.

I complained to Barry one morning and his response was " I had plenty

of hot water " . The next morning I made a point of getting up 20

minutes earlier than usual and got to take a looong hot shower - it

felt so nice. Acting on a hunch I complained again on the walk to the

bus to my landlord that I had to take a cold shower and he replied

" Nobody had hot water this morning. "

Never had a problem with the hot water again in that apartment.

Marty <who apologizes for going off on a tangent there>

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[Guest guest]

This has nothing to do with the sleep issue, but Tami, if you are looking for a

way to keep your son from watching television or using xbox, we discovered a

simple method. Buy a small luggage lock (they come in packs of two) and put the

shaft of the tiny padlock through the hole in the plug -- can't be plugged in!

My guy gets fairly ingenious about finding the keys and hiding the locks or

throwing them out the window etc., but for the most part, this is how we manage

hassle-free no-screen times.

( ) Hard to get daughter out of bed

Hi all,

My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She screams

for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up, when

she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight, as

she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this common

with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

My understanding is that sleep problems go hand-in-hand with AS. My

son has always had a hard time falling asleep and staying asleep

through the night. I had him scheduled for a sleep study last week,

but they cancelled it earlier that day because the Dr failed to

complete the paperwork to stay in-network with our ins co. That is

absolutely our luck. LOL. Anyway, I'm waiting to find out what the

study will say whenever he gets back in-network. Otherwise, I'll

schedule it with CHOP, but their sleep clinic isn't very conducive to

sleep whereas the other one is set up like a nice hotel room.

His Dev Ped recommended Melatonin. It didn't do much for us, but I've

heard good things about it from others ( " normal " adults).

Debbie (in NJ)

[Guest guest]

My 15 year old is very similar. I think it has alot to do with being a

teenager and then add Asperger's onto of that and it gets even more

complicated.

Pam

[Guest guest]

I really think, that the gist of what Donovan is saying is, have more

clearly defined structured time for an AS child. In alot of the AS

reading I have seen it totes the concept of " structure " for AS kids,

clearly defining the lines of conduct in different settings, making

it easier for the child to understand what is expected of them.

Perhaps some kids would respond before the the ultimate discipliness

he named, such as no food after a specific dinnertime is missed.

Taking into account how creative and high IQ my own AS has, I have to

chuckle because I can picture her now, managing just fine to get

around most of the examples Donovan named lol.

For a missed say...dinnertime, what I do is... well you know what? I

let her cook her own food if I don't feel like dropping everything at

the moment she wants Kentucky fried and rushing her to that fast

foods place. I can let my child who is 16, cook her own food because

she only EATS certain foods, ones that are easily prepared. I have

taught her how to prepare the foods she likes, and one day when she

was old enough and had been supervised at it for awhile I told

her, " You know what? I have laundry to do, YOU cook your own

hotdogs! " So she did, and has been ever since. Mind you, I taught her

safety issues also, like how to put out a fire quickly, and how not

to get burned, and so on. She is quite happy to BE ABLE to prepare

her own foods. She also bakes her own buscuits from those pillsbury

tubes you can buy? (because that is another food item she'll eat). So

far she has never forgotten to turn off stove, or over, and hasn't

gotten burned too badly. (ie, once she forgot to use a oven mitt, but

only slightly burned her finger, and I might add, has never forgotten

that experience since, and uses a oven mitt all the time now.)

At 16, my daughter now does her own laundry. (chuckles) She does one

small load maybe every week and I do the usual rest. I certainly

support her doing things on her own, these are all transitional types

of skills shes learning.

Occasionally she'll clean her own room somewhat, when the clothes

pile up around her and bothers her enough for even HER to notice. I

used to slip into her room and grab up the clothes to wash for her,

butnow she does seem to be trying a bit more at maintaining a level

of cleanliness even in her room. (Hail !!) lol, I am sitting

here typing all this with a grin, but I know the " hell " we have gone

through to get her to this point.

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Wow. I was so happy to read so many helpful responses. Everyone

had great ideas. Thank you. I must try them, as things are pretty

out of control.

One night last week, I woke up at 4:00 in the morning to get some

water and my dd was STILL awake, at the computer. I thought she

had gone to bed. Another time, I caught her watching TV in the

basement at 2:00 in the morning. So, all your ideas about some

more structure are making a lot of sense right now.

w/ teenage aspie daughter

>

> My 15 year old is very similar. I think it has alot to do with

being a

> teenager and then add Asperger's onto of that and it gets even

more complicated.

> Pam

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Been there, doing that!

I have tried to do the relaxing bath time (Still doing that) My 12

year old is as big as me, so he has to use our big bubbling tub.

Husband hates it so it rarely happens.

I also have been using melatonin. That seems to help, (with the bath

and quiet time) They boys would be asleep within 1/2 hour in a

relaxing setting (T.V. off!) That is hard. But at least they got to

sleep.

My problem, my oldest was up early 92,4,6) BUT I think I will try

again to see if it evens out.

Hope this helps!!

*smiles*

B

>

> My son is also hard to get up in the morning... he wants to sleep

all day and stay up all night. I used to make him go to school

anyhow, but they just kept sending him home, so I would ground him

from the computer...or take the cords to his xbox, I set a timer on

his cable box so it goes off at the same time every night... no tv

past 11 pm, but he just waits til I go to bed and watches it in the

living room... so not sure what to tell you! All I know is it is

common... your doctor may be able to give you some medication to

help her sleep at night... but if she's like my son, he can force

himself to stay up anyhow! Good luck!

> ( ) Hard to get daughter out of bed

>

>

> Hi all,

> My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She

screams

> for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up,

when

> she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight,

as

> she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this

common

> with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I have always had an 8 p.m. bedtime for dd. That is at 8 p.m. she is to go to

her room and stay there. When she was younger she had no t.v. or video games so

this was her reading time. It kept me sane and allowed me to get my sleep.

I also try to keep her on the same schedule on weekends as during the week and

during the summer. That has never worked for the entire summer so in August I

started with the early bedtimes again.

I agree it's a constant struggle, but this has worked best for me.

mary44mary44 <mary44mary44@...> wrote:

Hi all,

My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She screams

for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up, when

she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight, as

she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this common

with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

Thanks,

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

\\ofbeans <kehecho@...> wrote: help the child tack it to thedocter or

call911for help mack the child be ok its my understanding i jest help thee poor

child alest help her or him

tiff

I really think, that the gist of what Donovan is saying is, have more

clearly defined structured time for an AS child. In alot of the AS

reading I have seen it totes the concept of " structure " for AS kids,

clearly defining the lines of conduct in different settings, making

it easier for the child to understand what is expected of them.

Perhaps some kids would respond before the the ultimate discipliness

he named, such as no food after a specific dinnertime is missed.

Taking into account how creative and high IQ my own AS has, I have to

chuckle because I can picture her now, managing just fine to get

around most of the examples Donovan named lol.

For a missed say...dinnertime, what I do is... well you know what? I

let her cook her own food if I don't feel like dropping everything at

the moment she wants Kentucky fried and rushing her to that fast

foods place. I can let my child who is 16, cook her own food because

she only EATS certain foods, ones that are easily prepared. I have

taught her how to prepare the foods she likes, and one day when she

was old enough and had been supervised at it for awhile I told

her, " You know what? I have laundry to do, YOU cook your own

hotdogs! " So she did, and has been ever since. Mind you, I taught her

safety issues also, like how to put out a fire quickly, and how not

to get burned, and so on. She is quite happy to BE ABLE to prepare

her own foods. She also bakes her own buscuits from those pillsbury

tubes you can buy? (because that is another food item she'll eat). So

far she has never forgotten to turn off stove, or over, and hasn't

gotten burned too badly. (ie, once she forgot to use a oven mitt, but

only slightly burned her finger, and I might add, has never forgotten

that experience since, and uses a oven mitt all the time now.)

At 16, my daughter now does her own laundry. (chuckles) She does one

small load maybe every week and I do the usual rest. I certainly

support her doing things on her own, these are all transitional types

of skills shes learning.

Occasionally she'll clean her own room somewhat, when the clothes

pile up around her and bothers her enough for even HER to notice. I

used to slip into her room and grab up the clothes to wash for her,

butnow she does seem to be trying a bit more at maintaining a level

of cleanliness even in her room. (Hail !!) lol, I am sitting

here typing all this with a grin, but I know the " hell " we have gone

through to get her to this point.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

your rong not leting your child have a good life not right at all i dont get

it when parints and teachers fit with the childeran when the child tells them

somthing they ither get mad at them or therat at all as kids need lots of love

my story to you is love and understand your the parint not the child you wish

the chi,ld gets better but know they wont get better at all if you keep one

doing what your are doing !

tiff

Heifner <blueareviolets@...> wrote:

,

I have always had an 8 p.m. bedtime for dd. That is at 8 p.m. she is to go to

her room and stay there. When she was younger she had no t.v. or video games so

this was her reading time. It kept me sane and allowed me to get my sleep.

I also try to keep her on the same schedule on weekends as during the week and

during the summer. That has never worked for the entire summer so in August I

started with the early bedtimes again.

I agree it's a constant struggle, but this has worked best for me.

mary44mary44 <mary44mary44@...> wrote:

Hi all,

My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She screams

for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up, when

she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight, as

she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this common

with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

Thanks,

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

We use medication - clonidine. If he gets enough sleep, he can get up

without being grumpy.

Roxanna

Autism Happens

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of mary44mary44

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 6:37 AM

Subject: ( ) Hard to get daughter out of bed

Hi all,

My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She screams

for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up, when

she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight, as

she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this common

with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Donovan, I don't recommend this method as severely as you have written it.

However, there are some good parts. It is always great to have natural

consequences whenever possible. But with sleep problems, it is often more

than " just " misbehavior at work. I have two boys with HFA and both have had

sleep problems from around age 1. We have used medication with great

success. My older one is 17 yo now and he asks to get his meds refilled on

a regular basis because he can't get to sleep otherwise. If he were doing

it on purpose, he would not take the meds and just not sleep. In addition,

if he missed school due to not sleeping, he would not care. So we have to

make sure the consequences are going to make a dent or else we are just

shooting ourselves in the foot.

As for the neighbors with the loud music, ask them to turn it down by 10 pm

and if they don't, call the police and let them deal with the problem. You

shouldn't have to suffer with that all night!

Roxanna

Autism Happens

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:27 AM

Subject: Re: ( ) Hard to get daughter out of bed

,

I am by no means a doctor. But I use to work with several young adults with

severe behavioral problems, some had AS. What we did was simply do

controlled natural consequences for the person that misbehaved. We would set

up a schedule with them and let them know that they must stick to the

schedule or their day will not go well and try to explain why. Let them

experience real life if they get up whenever and go to bed whenever. What

happens to us when we get up late? We would miss the bus, get fired, miss

breakfast, not have time to take a shower, our whole lives would be messed

up. Let her experience some of that now, as well as the joys and

consequences of doing what she is suppose to do when she does things

correctly.

Tell her when mealtimes are, if she isn't there, she missed it, bread and

water for her. Tell her when the hot water will be on, she misses it, cold

shower for her. Tell her when bed time is, if she stays up, power goes off

in her room at that time. If she wants to sit in the dark, she does so not

on your dime.

She will learn if she wants a hot shower, decent food, and entertainment

during the hours she is awake, she will quickly learn what hours she needs

to be awake to be most beneficial to her. Otherwise, all she can take cold

showers, sit in the dark for hours every night, and eat cold leftovers and

bread. All you have to do is remember to turn off and on the power at the

same time everyday, no matter what she says or does, and be willing to be

patient as she tries everything to try and control you not to.

Just my advice, you know your child better than I, but this is just

something I would try. I cannot stand my neighbors daughter's that blast

their music all night. I so have been tempted to sneak over there and turn

off their power so I could get some sleep.

Take Care, and I wish you luck,

Donovan J Arnold

[Guest guest]

Hello,,I am just letting you know how I handle the sleeping

arrangments of my little aspie... BJ (who is 16) has NEVER

slept...even as a baby,,2 hours and enough. BUT,,,BJ was happy to

play quietly in his crib, or bed, or room. As he grew older, he

just moved up in activitys, all solo, and always quiet. If he has

an important reason to get up,,,he goes to bed earlier. BJ's

bedtime is 9:00pm, and has been for years. He goes to bed on his

own, (like law). At 9:01,,if he is still up,,panic starts in.

Keeping him up later, makes no difference on sleep time. Still 2

hours at a time. On a good night, can get 2 hours,,then awake for

awhile,,then 2 more !!! BJ takes no naps, and never has. BJ also

takes prozack, only the last 2 months, but may or maynot continue.

This made a big difference the first 2 weeks, slept 8-10 hours at a

time, but was grouchy. Now, sleep is back to normal, (which is 2

hours). After taking the prozack for a week or so,,I went to wake

BJ up, and he yelled at me. After he got up on his own, he came

down and was sulky. I didnt talk to him, (you know when not to push

it, right?)...after a few minutes, BJ ask what was wrong??? I said

I tryed to wake you and you yelled at me,,,he was shocked. Very

upset, and kept saying he was sorry. BJ has never yelled. so,

now,,when I call him, he has a job, and must get up, you can hear

his voice change from " dont want to get up " to ,, " I'm up !!! " , in a

happy tone... I realy have it lucky!!! I know all our kids are so

different and no one rule works on all aspies, but,,I got it

good!!! I am learning to cope, not deal, but cope. To me, copeing

with, is liveing with aspergers, and moving ahead. Dealing with it,

is ignoring it till it fixes itself. I still hear stupid stuff,

like my ex-mother in law tells me, if I loved BJ more, he wouldnt be

this way, all he needs is more love. bullshi*, lol,,you cant love a

child anymore, than I love BJ. BJ's manner is that of a 4 year old,

he is sweet, and does anything to please you. He cant say mean

things, or hurt anything. He catches flys and spiders, and takes

them outside. He holds the door for everyone, he trys so hard to

make people happy. Most kids, (Normal, whatever that is) at 16, are

little heathens. Fast cars, and girlfriends, drinking,,and rude,

and generally, real pains in the butts. As for me,,,I will keep

what God gave me. BJ's IQ was tested last month, average for his

age is 91, his was 135. Believe me, I am not bragging. I see his

downfalls and his struggles. BJ has over 3000 Yu-Gi-Oh card

completely menorized, and cant tell you the 12 months of the year.

That will probley never get better,,but,,hey,,his strong points are

stong, and everything else,,well,,for him, is just not important.

Oh, and as for the daughter who is yelling at you...my " normal "

daughter is just like you decribe,,,yells at me,,and hates my guts,

(REALY!!!). She has hated me since birth, ok, maybe not that early,

but seems like it. She is bullheaded, stubborn and selfish.

Somedays, she is harder to love than you can imagine. First of May,

she came home drunk, and I took her car away, for all running around

except for school. 2 days later, she moved out. One of these cut

off your face, inspite of your nose. Totally lost it, but,,she is

18... she did finish school, and now is stumbling along. She will

have to hit rock botton, before I will be able to help her. For

Tabetha, everthing she touches turns to gold, and I am seeing her

blow it all.

Hang in there...barbra

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> We use medication - clonidine. If he gets enough sleep, he can

get up

> without being grumpy.

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> Roxanna

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> Autism Happens

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> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of mary44mary44

> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 6:37 AM

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> Subject: ( ) Hard to get daughter out of bed

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> Hi all,

> My dd is very difficult to get out of bed in the morning. She

screams

> for me to get out of her bedroom. She absolutely must get up, when

> she feels like it. She is difficult to chase to bed at midnight,

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> she would even stay up later than that, if I let her. Is this

common

> with AS kids? How do some of you deal with this?

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> Thanks,

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