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On Apr 13, 2005, at 6:05 AM, momwithattitude2@... wrote:

> maybe we should compile a list of expert responses

>

> Joanne

>

** Mine is:

" " Hmmm, that's interesting. Now. Back to my son.... "

Or

They say, " not all kids need... "

and I come back with

" But some do...so, we are going to do this when? "

Tina

livin' in Alphabet Soup with:

, 6, AS/HFA , anxiety

Jordan 10, GAD, BP, OCD

Jasmine as NT as it gets, for now

dw to Jon- AS but fixated on computers= $$

" The three most important voices: the voice of your heart, the voice of

your gut and the voice of your child. " -Heidi Lissauer -adult with

autism who has autistic children, as well

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Has Sasha read the Chronicles of Prydain by Lloyd ? It's a

trilogy. Both my kids loved it. It's a great read-aloud, if Sasha will

let you. Gotta run get . We're gonna talk about colleges today at

his therapy appointment today. Wish me luck.

Liz

On Apr 13, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Tombrello wrote:

>

> Hi Liz,

>

> I remember really liking Catcher when I was a kid. I read it again as

> an

> adult, along with Salinger's Nine Short Stories, and I said to myself,

> " Man, this guy was really messed up. He is so at odds with the world. "

> And

> what a Freudian. Okay, I know he was enormously influential, and I can

> understand how played into the whole disaffection with established

> institutions and with materialism that blossomed into the Beat

> Generation

> and later the love culture of the late 1960's and early 1970's.

>

> Anyway, I can understand why kids like ours wouldn't care for the

> book. I

> try to imagine Sasha making sense of the brass ring on the carousel at

> the

> end of the novel, how the little girl reaches for it and breaks

> Holden's

> heart with that one gesture. This is heavy stuff. If my kid can't

> handle

> criticism, I can't imagine him willingly taking on the theme of

> depression

> and suicide that runs through Salinger's writings. It's hard enough

> for me

> to re-read that stuff knowing that my child struggles so to make sense

> of

> his own emotions.

>

> Much more comforting to him are books that take him on a journey

> outside

> reality, such as the Harry Potter books. And I can imagine that he

> will be

> really, really, really into JRR Tolkien.

>

> I will have to pick up The Man some day. That sounds like a hoot.

>

> T.

>

>

> At 10:21 AM 4/12/2005 -0700, you wrote:

>

>> I second 's idea of a communications log. We are using a

>> variation

>> of this with . His English teacher is e-mailing me his homework

>> assignments every day. Sometimes will do part of his homework

>> and tell me that he has finished it. So this is an effort to intervene

>> and short circuit this process. Little monster. Er, not so little. He

>> is 6'1 " . Armed with the knowledge of his homework assignment, I can

>> ask

>> pointed questions. " Did you answer the essay questions on Catcher in

>> the Rye? " (his most hated book in the whole wide world anywhere) By

>> the

>> way, a book that he loves is The Man who Mistook His Wife for a Hat,

>> by

>> Oliver Sacks, a neurologist. He loves that! Sorry, I am rambling.

>> Talk

>> to you all later, Liz

>

>

>

>

>

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On Dec 9, 6:46am, Tina Cruz wrote:

} On Apr 8, 2005, at 5:15 AM, momwithattitude2@... wrote:

}

} > I lso thought parents met with the team at the end of the year.

} > THe case manager told me no. you meet once a year for the IEP

} >

} > that's it.

}

} *THAT is b.s. You are legally allowed to call an IEP as often as you

} want to do so!! They are flat lying to you, Joanne, and I am angry for

} you!

Indeed! See if you can get her to put that in writing. Grrr.

Bam's mom

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Luck and many crossed fingers! Hope is excited about his choices.

My nieces recommended this trilogy also. I'll have to check it out. Thanks

for the recommendation.

Tina helped me pick out some stuff for Sasha. (Thank you.) Sasha is

enjoying the Mouse and the Motorcycle. He also enjoyed Indian in the

Cupboard. We have the first of the Unfortunate Events books waiting and The

Borrowers and The Little Prince, oh yes and the Phantom Tollbooth and ...

what was the other one? BFG?. Kind of exciting when they get turned on to

real chapter books.

You should have seen my seven-year-old faithfully reading an exercise book

called Getting In Shape last week. He read 100 pages of that thing, aloud,

to his father. Hmmm.

I expect that Sasha will enjoy all of Roald Dahl's books. It's that

whimsical and wry sense of humor of his. He will probably obsess over The

Chocolate Factory, wishing it were all true and asking me repeatedly if we

can visit the oompa loompas.

I'm glad that he and I have this interest -- reading -- to share with one

another and that, although I like melodramatic and depressing novels as

much as the next person (although they do tend to send me into a funk), I

also enjoy the books that Sasha delights in.

T.

At 01:36 PM 4/13/2005 -0700, you wrote:

>Has Sasha read the Chronicles of Prydain by Lloyd ? It's a

>trilogy. Both my kids loved it. It's a great read-aloud, if Sasha will

>let you. Gotta run get . We're gonna talk about colleges today at

>his therapy appointment today. Wish me luck.

>

>Liz

>

>On Apr 13, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Tombrello wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi Liz,

> >

> > I remember really liking Catcher when I was a kid. I read it again as

> > an

> > adult, along with Salinger's Nine Short Stories, and I said to myself,

> > " Man, this guy was really messed up. He is so at odds with the world. "

> > And

> > what a Freudian. Okay, I know he was enormously influential, and I can

> > understand how played into the whole disaffection with established

> > institutions and with materialism that blossomed into the Beat

> > Generation

> > and later the love culture of the late 1960's and early 1970's.

> >

> > Anyway, I can understand why kids like ours wouldn't care for the

> > book. I

> > try to imagine Sasha making sense of the brass ring on the carousel at

> > the

> > end of the novel, how the little girl reaches for it and breaks

> > Holden's

> > heart with that one gesture. This is heavy stuff. If my kid can't

> > handle

> > criticism, I can't imagine him willingly taking on the theme of

> > depression

> > and suicide that runs through Salinger's writings. It's hard enough

> > for me

> > to re-read that stuff knowing that my child struggles so to make sense

> > of

> > his own emotions.

> >

> > Much more comforting to him are books that take him on a journey

> > outside

> > reality, such as the Harry Potter books. And I can imagine that he

> > will be

> > really, really, really into JRR Tolkien.

> >

> > I will have to pick up The Man some day. That sounds like a hoot.

> >

> > T.

> >

> >

> > At 10:21 AM 4/12/2005 -0700, you wrote:

> >

> >> I second 's idea of a communications log. We are using a

> >> variation

> >> of this with . His English teacher is e-mailing me his homework

> >> assignments every day. Sometimes will do part of his homework

> >> and tell me that he has finished it. So this is an effort to intervene

> >> and short circuit this process. Little monster. Er, not so little. He

> >> is 6'1 " . Armed with the knowledge of his homework assignment, I can

> >> ask

> >> pointed questions. " Did you answer the essay questions on Catcher in

> >> the Rye? " (his most hated book in the whole wide world anywhere) By

> >> the

> >> way, a book that he loves is The Man who Mistook His Wife for a Hat,

> >> by

> >> Oliver Sacks, a neurologist. He loves that! Sorry, I am rambling.

> >> Talk

> >> to you all later, Liz

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I second this! Unreal!

Our special education coordinator tried to tell me that I can't visit SDC

classrooms prior to our meeting to discuss which one to place Sasha in next

year. What nonsense!

Do these people make this stuff up as they go along? Evidently, as they are

certainly not reading the law.

The school has 10 days to respond to a request for an IEP meeting. They

have to hold one, whenever you want, whenever you ask. That is the one

power we have as parents -- the delirious pleasure of annoying them

senseless when they trample on our children's rights. Okay, that's their

nightmare vision of what we do. I'm being just a bit snide.

Sorry to sound so cynical. Kind of goes with the territory at this time of

year.

I was once such a nice person, you know? I had these fantasies of working

as part of a team to help my son. I actually allowed myself to believe my

son's teachers and counselors cared what my dh and I have to say. Perhaps

some do. I'd like to think so. (So evidently I still have room to grow more

callouses.) But now I feel like some sort of leathery, calloused,

world-weary soldier in some sort of war. And, believe me, this was not of

my choosing.

T.

mom of Sasha, 7

At 01:46 PM 4/13/2005 -0700, you wrote:

>On Dec 9, 6:46am, Tina Cruz wrote:

>} On Apr 8, 2005, at 5:15 AM, momwithattitude2@... wrote:

>}

>} > I lso thought parents met with the team at the end of the year.

>} > THe case manager told me no. you meet once a year for the IEP

>} >

>} > that's it.

>}

>} *THAT is b.s. You are legally allowed to call an IEP as often as you

>} want to do so!! They are flat lying to you, Joanne, and I am angry for

>} you!

>

>Indeed! See if you can get her to put that in writing. Grrr.

>

>Bam's mom

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 4/13/2005 5:05:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

suso903tomb@... writes:

You should have seen my seven-year-old faithfully reading an exercise book

called Getting In Shape last week. He read 100 pages of that thing, aloud,

to his father. Hmmm.

My 8 year old reads my " teen " parenting books. Pam :)

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Too funny! Maybe your little one can give you some pointers! NOT.

T.

At 04:43 AM 4/14/2005 -0400, you wrote:

>In a message dated 4/13/2005 5:05:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>suso903tomb@... writes:

>

>

>You should have seen my seven-year-old faithfully reading an exercise book

>called Getting In Shape last week. He read 100 pages of that thing, aloud,

>to his father. Hmmm.

>

>

>

>My 8 year old reads my " teen " parenting books. Pam :)

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