Re: Do your kids get canker sores in their mouths?

[Guest guest]

I had frequent cankers when I was a kid. I don't get as many now, but

if I eat potato chips I stand a good chance of getting one. My theory

is that I get tiny cuts in my mouth from the chips and the spices

irritate them. Corn chips don't bother me - go figure.

Roxanna M

[Guest guest]

my boys get sores all the time. They are bad about getting

ulcers in their throats too. Noah has 5 in his mouth now. I don't know

if it is allergies or vitamin deficiencies or what. It's interesting you

should ask this question. Yesterday I was thinking about posting this

question and got on to something else. Anyone else know what causes

these and/or how to prevent them? I have to say they handle it alot

better than when I have *one*. I can hardly talk when I have one. I

guess they are so used to them. Toni

wrote:

> My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth well.

> But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an allergy? He

> doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no problems.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Toni,

Fortunately, I have never had the bad luck to have one of these (I

am keeping my fingers AND toes crossed this keeps up, lol). I was

told that canker sores are a virus-type illness - similar to the

chicken pox - so that once contracted, remains in the body's system

indefinitely. My mom went years and years without one and this year

she tried on a sample lipstick at a store and bang, she got one!

Apparently, irritants, such as the salted/spicy chips, that you

mention, can contribute to an outbreak - as can - sunlight or a

compromise in the immune system, such as the flu. Lots that cannot

be avoided, I am afraid. There are medications that are suppose to

aid in the healing process (my mom didn't personally find hers

particuarly helpful and it was expensive to boot!)

Good-luck and hope that you all stay well for a very long time!

Velvet

>

> > My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth

well.

> > But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an

allergy? He

> > doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

problems.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

COOL K .. I see we have hit on something.. And I agree.. By the time Chase

says something.. He's in tears.. With about six in his mouth..

Hmm.. I am off to the pharmacy to get something.. I am going to talk to them

about it.. And see what I can come up with.

I also got them terribly as a child.. But put it down to bad teeth..

But I think I see a pattern.

And yup.. Cuts.. Etc.. Can make a guaranteed canker..

Just add that to the list of why I shouldn't eat chips too EH? LOL

-- Re: ( ) Do your kids get canker sores in their

mouths?

my boys get sores all the time. They are bad about getting

ulcers in their throats too. Noah has 5 in his mouth now. I don't know

if it is allergies or vitamin deficiencies or what. It's interesting you

should ask this question. Yesterday I was thinking about posting this

question and got on to something else. Anyone else know what causes

these and/or how to prevent them? I have to say they handle it alot

better than when I have *one*. I can hardly talk when I have one. I

guess they are so used to them. Toni

wrote:

> My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth well.

> But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an allergy? He

> doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no problems.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello, there has been some research that explains that some foods

may produces the sores such as:

Cow milk

Chocolate

Gluten

Sea food

Soya

Cheese

Vinager

Tomato, apple, lemon, pineapple, nuts and strawberry

French mustard

Artificial colors and flavors

Also the deficiency in Folic Acid, Vitamin B12 and high levels of

Candida are some other casuses.

To cure them you can use the same parts of Water and Peroxid water,

apply over the sores, then apply some Milk of Magnesium, but I will

recomend first some calming medicine for the pain.

Hope I help,

[Guest guest]

It 'can' be a sign of gluten intolerance and perhaps celiac. My

husband's sores went away when he went gluten free, and his sister's

canker sores went away as well.

>

> My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth well.

> But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an allergy?

He

> doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

problems.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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a good site...

http://www.puritan.com/vf/healthnotes/HN_live/Concern/Canker_Sores.ht

m

>

> > My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth

well.

> > But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an

allergy? He

> > doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

problems.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Gluten is found in just about anything made with white flour, and sometimes

wheat flour. If you read the ingredients list, gluten will usually be listed as

a main ingredient. Therefore, pasta, breads, cookies, etc have gluten.

laura (the lurker)

<cmcintosh5@...> wrote:

What foods .. Contain gluten?

-- ( ) Re: Do your kids get canker sores in their

mouths?

It 'can' be a sign of gluten intolerance and perhaps celiac. My

husband's sores went away when he went gluten free, and his sister's

canker sores went away as well.

>

> My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth well.

> But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an allergy?

He

> doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

problems.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry if I appear aspie here, but what does canker sores have to do with

Aspergers?

I don't see the link here. . .

_DJA

<cmcintosh5@...> wrote: OMG ! Wow... I am really going to

have to research this and decide if its

right for us.. It is the cankers.. That are issue..

And he loves all of those foods.. So there isn't much chance that removing

them wouldn't rock his otherwise content world..

Thanks!

-- ( ) Re: Do your kids get canker sores in their

mouths?

It 'can' be a sign of gluten intolerance and perhaps celiac. My

husband's sores went away when he went gluten free, and his sister's

canker sores went away as well.

>

> My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth well.

> But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an allergy?

He

> doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

problems.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What foods .. Contain gluten?

-- ( ) Re: Do your kids get canker sores in their

mouths?

It 'can' be a sign of gluten intolerance and perhaps celiac. My

husband's sores went away when he went gluten free, and his sister's

canker sores went away as well.

>

> My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth well.

> But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an allergy?

He

> doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

problems.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OMG ! Wow... I am really going to have to research this and decide if its

right for us.. It is the cankers.. That are issue..

And he loves all of those foods.. So there isn't much chance that removing

them wouldn't rock his otherwise content world..

Thanks!

-- ( ) Re: Do your kids get canker sores in their

mouths?

It 'can' be a sign of gluten intolerance and perhaps celiac. My

husband's sores went away when he went gluten free, and his sister's

canker sores went away as well.

>

> My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth well.

> But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an allergy?

He

> doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

problems.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Some people like my husband can get a canker sore from cross

contamination - ie, eating french fries fried in the same oil as

chicken nuggets.

> >

> > My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth

well.

> > But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an

allergy?

> He

> > doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

> problems.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Donovan,

Many of the parents here are trying to better understand some of the

physical problems that might go along with Aspergers. While they may

not be directly related to the syndrome itself, Aspies do have a higher

rate of some physical problems and these parents are merely trying to

figure out if the canker sores are another problem in that list. Surely

you know the higher rate of co-morbid problems among Aspies and the

frighteningly paltry amount of research done on all things Aspergian.

These parents merely saw a common thread and are looking into it. It

does not have to mean there truly is a connection, but as good parents

they have to check it out. I hope you understand this.

Best wishes,

Tabitha

( ) Re: Do your kids get canker sores in their

mouths?

It 'can' be a sign of gluten intolerance and perhaps celiac. My

husband's sores went away when he went gluten free, and his sister's

canker sores went away as well.

>

> My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth well.

> But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an allergy?

He

> doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

problems.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There are A LOT of ways of treating the pain if you don't want to go

the route of getting rid of them from happening - a lot of people

make that choice because being gluten free is a pain. Celiac

testing is a blood test - and a blood drawn can be painful in

itself, especially for our kids.

> >

> > My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth

well.

> > But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an

allergy?

> He

> > doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

> problems.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry to be aspi back, but I can't tell if you are implying that off-

topic discussions are not appreciated, or if you are really trying to

see if there is a genetic link between people who have aspi and people

who get canker sores?

>

> Sorry if I appear aspie here, but what does canker sores have to do

with Aspergers?

>

> I don't see the link here. . .

>

> _DJA

[Guest guest]

i always got them as a child more so in the summer. Seemed like I always got

them during tomato season or from stress. Now I get them if I am really

stressed to the max. I always figured it was better then stomach ulcers. My

AS son gets them too but seems like he gets them because he chews on his

cheeks and lips. Or at least he causes them to be crater size from chewing.

Our dentist wanted to suture his lip a couple times because they got so deep

I use TUMS or MOM when I get them and it seems to help them go away.

Suzanne

-- ( ) Do your kids get canker sores in their mouths?

My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth well.

But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an allergy? He

doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no problems.

[Guest guest]

--- What does the celiac testing look for? Allergies to gluten?

Excuse my ignorance... Toni

, " LJL " <laura6307@...> wrote:

>

> There are A LOT of ways of treating the pain if you don't want to

go

> the route of getting rid of them from happening - a lot of people

> make that choice because being gluten free is a pain. Celiac

> testing is a blood test - and a blood drawn can be painful in

> itself, especially for our kids.

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth

> well.

> > > But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an

> allergy?

> > He

> > > doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

> > problems.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

You are NOT ignorant! If you have celiac then avoiding gluten will

most of the time resolve canker sores. I do believe there was a

study I read a couple of days ago that said that only some people

who are gluten sensitive but don't have celiac are helped by

removing gluten. The celiac testing will show whether you have a

very serious disease that would make you avoid gluten like the

plague. One in less than 200 people have celiac, and most people

are undiagnosed.

> > > >

> > > > My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his

teeth

> > well.

> > > > But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an

> > allergy?

> > > He

> > > > doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

> > > problems.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Tabitha,

Thanks for pointing that out. I couldn't figure out why this was an issue. I

don't think there is a connection. But who knows.

I just think that Asperger's is genetic and manifests itself to a different

degree in different ways with different people. I think of it like skin color.

Or more like being right brained or left brained. People with Autism just have

a different way of thinking about things, that is the way our brains are wired.

It is nerve racking, because some people with it severely, are not able to

adjust and relate to others around them.

We see, hear, and think about the world around us in such a different way, not

the way most people do.

I also don't think of it as an illness. I just think of it as a being

different, but a disability in this world because we are minority in the way we

think and communicate.

To me, people with Autism have perfectly rational and predictable thoughts,

and it is everyone else that seems to think irrationally and unpredicable.

Thanks,

_DJA

" Ms. Tabitha Bingham " <cleobaby74@...> wrote: Donovan,

Many of the parents here are trying to better understand some of the

physical problems that might go along with Aspergers. While they may

not be directly related to the syndrome itself, Aspies do have a higher

rate of some physical problems and these parents are merely trying to

figure out if the canker sores are another problem in that list. Surely

you know the higher rate of co-morbid problems among Aspies and the

frighteningly paltry amount of research done on all things Aspergian.

These parents merely saw a common thread and are looking into it. It

does not have to mean there truly is a connection, but as good parents

they have to check it out. I hope you understand this.

Best wishes,

Tabitha

( ) Re: Do your kids get canker sores in their

mouths?

It 'can' be a sign of gluten intolerance and perhaps celiac. My

husband's sores went away when he went gluten free, and his sister's

canker sores went away as well.

>

> My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his teeth well.

> But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its an allergy?

He

> doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything no

problems.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

---Thanks , It must be that dreaded gluten or cheese with my

boys. they hardly eat anything that *isn't* gluten or cheese.

Interesting...

Toni

In , " sweeneyroche "

<sweeneyroche@...> wrote:

>

> Hello, there has been some research that explains that some foods

> may produces the sores such as:

> Cow milk

> Chocolate

> Gluten

> Sea food

> Soya

> Cheese

> Vinager

> Tomato, apple, lemon, pineapple, nuts and strawberry

> French mustard

> Artificial colors and flavors

>

> Also the deficiency in Folic Acid, Vitamin B12 and high levels of

> Candida are some other casuses.

>

> To cure them you can use the same parts of Water and Peroxid

water,

> apply over the sores, then apply some Milk of Magnesium, but I

will

> recomend first some calming medicine for the pain.

>

> Hope I help,

>

[Guest guest]

--- Thanks, ! I learn something here everyday! You girls and

guys are the BEST!!

Toni

In , " LJL " <laura6307@...> wrote:

>

> You are NOT ignorant! If you have celiac then avoiding gluten

will

> most of the time resolve canker sores. I do believe there was a

> study I read a couple of days ago that said that only some people

> who are gluten sensitive but don't have celiac are helped by

> removing gluten. The celiac testing will show whether you have a

> very serious disease that would make you avoid gluten like the

> plague. One in less than 200 people have celiac, and most people

> are undiagnosed.

>

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > My son is always getting mouth sores.. He does brush his

> teeth

> > > well.

> > > > > But he is always getting cankers. I am wondering if its

an

> > > allergy?

> > > > He

> > > > > doesn't have any eating issues. The kid will eat anything

no

> > > > problems.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

That's pretty typical, from what I have read, of kids with autism.

There is a theory, ie - no hard proof - that these kids create a

morphine like substance from ingesting it which makes them feel really

good. We put our autistic son on the gluten and casein free diet when

he was three, but we wound up making our other son gluten and dairy

free (lactose issues) because his poops were horrible until we removed

gluten. We hoped our daughter would not have it, but her poops were

horrible until we also removed gluten. I then found out that canker

sores were linked, told my DH, he removed gluten, and became pain free

for the first time since childhood. I have also recently found out

that my grandfather and great uncle have celiac, so there might be a

link on both sides of my family in regards to our kids.

LJL

>

> ---Thanks , It must be that dreaded gluten or cheese with my

> boys. they hardly eat anything that *isn't* gluten or cheese.

> Interesting...

> Toni

[Guest guest]

I have heard that before about the morphine like high. I wish I had

known this when they were little it would be a LOT easier to change

diets then instead of when they are 17 and so set in their ways. One has

to have a blue handled fork,spoon, knife to eat with the other silver

and I am so forgetful half the time I forget who gets what utensil. Toni

LJL wrote:

> That's pretty typical, from what I have read, of kids with autism.

> There is a theory, ie - no hard proof - that these kids create a

> morphine like substance from ingesting it which makes them feel really

> good. We put our autistic son on the gluten and casein free diet when

> he was three, but we wound up making our other son gluten and dairy

> free (lactose issues) because his poops were horrible until we removed

> gluten. We hoped our daughter would not have it, but her poops were

> horrible until we also removed gluten. I then found out that canker

> sores were linked, told my DH, he removed gluten, and became pain free

> for the first time since childhood. I have also recently found out

> that my grandfather and great uncle have celiac, so there might be a

> link on both sides of my family in regards to our kids.

>

> LJL

>

>

> >

> > ---Thanks , It must be that dreaded gluten or cheese with my

> > boys. they hardly eat anything that *isn't* gluten or cheese.

> > Interesting...

> > Toni

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, and if they are not on board with the diet they will sneak

food, anyway. There are enzymes they can take that people say made

the gfcf diet a moot point. We might try them for dairy over the

summer (but only for infractions because the enzymes are costly),

but not with gluten. The enzymes don't help you with celiac disease

as the enzymes break the gluten into parts that are even worse for

the celiac positive person.

When we lived in IL (we live in OH now) I met a man who became a

little bit verbal after his mom put him on a gfcf diet. In his

case, though, he was a nonverbal severely autistic man (in his

40's), and she prepared all food for him, so changing his diet

became her choice and not his. It was amazing watching him start to

talk, although as you can imagine it was difficult to understand him.

>

> I have heard that before about the morphine like high. I wish I

had

> known this when they were little it would be a LOT easier to

change

> diets then instead of when they are 17 and so set in their ways.

One has

> to have a blue handled fork,spoon, knife to eat with the other

silver

> and I am so forgetful half the time I forget who gets what

utensil. Toni

[Guest guest]

That is amazing! About the guy in IL. Where do you get the enzymes? and

can a regular dr. test for celiac disease? Thanks ,Toni

LJL wrote:

> Yes, and if they are not on board with the diet they will sneak

> food, anyway. There are enzymes they can take that people say made

> the gfcf diet a moot point. We might try them for dairy over the

> summer (but only for infractions because the enzymes are costly),

> but not with gluten. The enzymes don't help you with celiac disease

> as the enzymes break the gluten into parts that are even worse for

> the celiac positive person.

>

> When we lived in IL (we live in OH now) I met a man who became a

> little bit verbal after his mom put him on a gfcf diet. In his

> case, though, he was a nonverbal severely autistic man (in his

> 40's), and she prepared all food for him, so changing his diet

> became her choice and not his. It was amazing watching him start to

> talk, although as you can imagine it was difficult to understand him.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I have heard that before about the morphine like high. I wish I

> had

> > known this when they were little it would be a LOT easier to

> change

> > diets then instead of when they are 17 and so set in their ways.

> One has

> > to have a blue handled fork,spoon, knife to eat with the other

> silver

> > and I am so forgetful half the time I forget who gets what

> utensil. Toni

>

>