Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 , Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my many questions. It's a big help. In response to your question, the yeast treatment is going well. He finished up his first round of Diflucan plus his first round of Yeast Aid and is now on his second round of Diflucan. I think I saw even greater improvement on the Yeast Aid than the Diflucan...maybe because the Yeast Aid works on bacteria as well as yeast and he does have a bacteria problem as well. Anyway, his behavior is the best we've ever seen. He's really with it and in a good mood. His language, even though he's pretty verbabl to begin with, is coming along very nicely. He's really playing with his twin sister and having fun with her. We have not tried the No-Fenol at this point as I was introducting the Diflucan and the Yeast Aid and wanted to see what his reaction would be to those products without getting confused if he had a bad reaction as to whether it was the No-Fenol or the Diflucan or Yeast Aid. Anyway, do you still think I should try the No-Fenol since we've seen such an improvement already? And if I try it, how far away from the Diflucan or the Yeast Aid should I give it? Do I give the No-Fenol a 1/2 hour or 15 minutes before? Also, should I try it first this way, right before the yeast treatment and then maybe introduce it with meals as well? I'm assuming I should begin with trying it once a day before the Diflucan or Yeast Aid and then try giving it with meals, correct? It's so hard for me to even know if he needs it with meals because he eats peanut butter and other phenolic foods on a regular basis and has no reaction, no giggling, no hyperactivity, etc. As always, your advice and time is greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Theresa > Hi Theresa, > > I finally finished my cup 'o coffee! (It was a really big cup, LOL) > I have returned to gainful employment so this 'earn a living thing' > sort of takes some time. You might want to get your own cup because > the reply isn't that short. > > > >>>> A few weeks ago I had posted a question asking if leaky gut and > malabsorption were the same thing and you responded back with some > questions. I wrote back that I would check with our Pfeiffer nurse > and here are her answers. Also, as a reminder my son's test results > from Pfeiffer read " malabsorption " and " copper/zinc imbalance. " > > > >>>>Her response was that they suspect malabsorption because of the > > yeast and negative bacteria findings in his GI tract. She > > said " leaky gut " is not a diagnosis but rather a symptom of poor > > dysbiosis or normal blance of gut flora (I think she meant > abnormal) that can cause poor absorption and leaking in the GI > tract. They suspect that he has poor absorption in all areas, not > just specific areas. > > Okay, this is what I suspected was going on. They are 'guessing' or > estimating what might be going on based on what test results they > were able to do. There likely isn't one straight-forward test that > can accurately give you a result like " zinc is 50% malabsorbed " > or " minerals are 35% malabsorbed. " So you run tests and try to figure > out what might be going on to the best of your ability. Particularly > true when doing human medical science. > > > >>>>(I still wonder why he's big for his age, though; not abnormally > big, but always in the 90-95th percentile for his age.) > > Maybe he would have been even bigger?! It might be that there are > problems brewing internally that wouldn't manifest specfically as > stunted growth. > > How is the yeast problem doing now? You mentioned you were on a > rotation of yeast killers. Any improvement at all? > > > >>>And of course, we are using AFP Peptizyde and Zyme Prime at every > meal, including snacks. > > If you aren't doing No-Fenol at the moment (or Candidase)...add that > to help with the yeast. That will make all the other things work > better. Give it between meals. It is the combination of yeast- killer > plus enzymes that is most effective. A synergistic effect. > > > >>>> Finally, we only did one urine peptide test at 20 months of > age. He tested high for casein but not for gluten. I always thought > this meant he has leaky gut but now I'm not sure. He has been casein > free for almost 3 years now. > > Nope, doesn't indicate leaky gut. What it indicates is that there can > be: > poor digestion somewhere not sufficiently getting proteins > OR intestinal lining dysfunction without leaky gut > OR intestinal lining dysfunction with leaky gut > OR yeast (remember Great Plains findings) > > That test does not measure exclusively poorly digested casein and > gluten. It picks up all types of other things too (apparently). With > the finding that yeast produces these elements as well, and you have > been casein free for 3 years, then it is very likely just picking up > that there is a yeast problem. > > > >>>> Where I think I was going with all this originally was " To treat > > malabsorption as thoroughly as possible, I should be using enzymes > > before snacks as well, correct? " > > Yes, that would help. > > > >>>Also, I'm pretty sure he does not have a problem with phenols, > never any giggling or hyperactivity after consuming fruits, etc. > However, I'm not sure if the No-Fenol would help with salicylates, > > I would definitely do a 1 bottle trial of No-Fenol just for the > yeast. If it helps with salicylates, that is nice bonus. I suggest > starting low and working up to 1 capsule of No-Fenol between meals 1- > 3 times a day...and maybe 1/2 capsule with meals. Because No-Fenol > packs quite a punch on yeast, don't rush it if it takes a while to > get that far. Yeast can be really stubborn. Here is the No-Fenol File > which tells more about how No-Fenol works and others experiences: > > http://www.enzymestuff.com/nofenolfile.htm > > > >>>> Finally, last question, I promise...if I give AFP Peptizyde with > a snack in addition to Zyme Prime but the snack contains only carbs, > > say carrots for instance, does the AFP Peptizyde then go after > > yeast, like No-Fenol, since it has no food in the stomach to work > > on? > > It can. Enzymes are like little mindless robots. They break any > appropriate substrate in its path no matter what the source. So if > you gave it with food and there was no protein at all, it would just > continue alone until it came upon a yeast cell (or bacteria, or some > tumorous mass, or dead cells that needed clearning out, or whatever). > > Taking the enzymes between meals is a way of guaranteeing they won't > get held up working on food, but taking with a non-substrate food is > fine too. On an empty stomach, you are just directly rushing it into > non-food activity. You can try it both ways, with food and without, > and see if there is any noticeable difference. > > Sorry, this was a later reply than usual, and thanks for the re- post > notice. > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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