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Hi my son has been GFCF for 8 weeks and we recently figured out that

he is probably very sensitive to phenols. We started him on no-

fenol about 48 hours ago and we are seeing both positive and

negative reactions. He is taking about 1/8-1/4 of a capsule with

every meal. Can someone tell me if this is what I should expect and

possibly where to go from her.

Positive Reactions:

formed stools with very little undigested food. Almost brown

colored this is an improvement over yellow loose stools with a lot

of undigested food.

better sleep...only up once last night and twice the night before.

Very easily back to sleep both nights.

longer sleep...over 10 hours last night(YEA!)

not shoveling his food in. He used to just shovel his food into his

mouth using both hands as quickly as he could. Spilling food

everywhere.

at times, not quite as hyper. Seems more tuned in.

Negative reactions

at times, very hyper. He had a banana with breakfast and it seemed

by a couple of hours later, he was very hyper. I rubbed his back

with Epsom Salt Lotion and it seemed to really calm him down.

at times more agressive. He is not normally agressive but he bit

me and his sister as well as really pulled her hair.

a little more self injury. Doesn't usually do this alot, but it

seems he is pulling his own hair more.

more self stimulation. He hadn't been spinning himself lately, and

he did that some today (still not that bad..it might just be an

active 2 year old thing)

Also, he hasn't been getting much phenolic foods as we had limited

those. How should I go about reintroducing some of the less

offensive ones? How quickly should I up him to 1/2 capsule with

each meal? I was planning on doing it slowly over about 1-2 weeks?

Is that OK? Also, when should I introduce the zyme-prime? THANKS

so much for all your help.

mom to Sam 2 years ASD and Madelyn 1 year

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>>>We started him on no-fenol about 48 hours ago and we are seeing

both positive and negative reactions.

Good!!! This is a pattern I always look for. When you see both some

positive along with any undesirable behaviors/effects, this usually

always indicates an adjustment to the enzymes which will go away

shortly. The effects might be die-off (No-Fenol has proven awesome on

yeast), cleaning out the colon (just ask my husband about that), or

other detox reactions.

Keep at the dose you are at for a few more days and he should be

stabilizing more. Then increase to 1/2 cap and allow for any more

detox. You might want to go up to 1 capsule then and allow for more

detox. Then try one food back at a time. Test that one food for a

week or so because a reaction might be delayed. Then if that works

out, test another one.

>>>I was planning on doing it slowly over about 1-2 weeks?

Sounds very good. Doing the low-n-slow has been successful in the

past.

>>>Also, when should I introduce the zyme-prime?

I would add in the Zyme Prime after you increase the No-Fenol and

before testing foods. This way the Zyme Prime enzymes can help

breakdown any other starches, fats, and proteins in the new food not

covered by No-Fenol. Just better digestion all around too.

.

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> Hi my son has been GFCF for 8 weeks and we recently figured out that

> he is probably very sensitive to phenols. We started him on no-

> fenol about 48 hours ago and we are seeing both positive and

> negative reactions.

> Negative reactions

> at times, very hyper. He had a banana with breakfast and it seemed

> by a couple of hours later, he was very hyper.

For some kids, No-Fenol does not help with amine foods, even if it

helps with salicylate foods.

> a little more self injury. Doesn't usually do this alot, but it

> seems he is pulling his own hair more.

> more self stimulation. He hadn't been spinning himself lately, and

> he did that some today (still not that bad..it might just be an

> active 2 year old thing)

Hair pulling and spinning are symptoms of yeast for my family.

Bananas feed yeast.

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

> Also, he hasn't been getting much phenolic foods as we had limited

> those. How should I go about reintroducing some of the less

> offensive ones?

Check this list. Start with salicylate foods to the left side [lower

salicylates] and avoid the amines for now [check for the %

http://www.zip.com.au/~ataraxy/Salic_03.txt

>>How quickly should I up him to 1/2 capsule with

> each meal? I was planning on doing it slowly over about 1-2 weeks?

> Is that OK?

Sounds okay to me.

>>Also, when should I introduce the zyme-prime?

Wait until he is stabilized. Either after you have increased the

No-Fenol, or now before you start increasing it.

Dana

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My daughter gave me some little negative behaviors with the small

doses of NF so I upped it to 1 cap at each meal very quickly and the

behaviors were gone. She was already on AFP and ZP. We did get some

little yeast problems after that (possibly die-off but unsure at this

point).

Best Wishes

Becky

> Hi my son has been GFCF for 8 weeks and we recently figured out

that

> he is probably very sensitive to phenols. We started him on no-

> fenol about 48 hours ago and we are seeing both positive and

> negative reactions. He is taking about 1/8-1/4 of a capsule with

> every meal. Can someone tell me if this is what I should expect and

> possibly where to go from her.

>

> Positive Reactions:

> formed stools with very little undigested food. Almost brown

> colored this is an improvement over yellow loose stools with a lot

> of undigested food.

> better sleep...only up once last night and twice the night before.

> Very easily back to sleep both nights.

> longer sleep...over 10 hours last night(YEA!)

> not shoveling his food in. He used to just shovel his food into

his

> mouth using both hands as quickly as he could. Spilling food

> everywhere.

> at times, not quite as hyper. Seems more tuned in.

>

> Negative reactions

> at times, very hyper. He had a banana with breakfast and it seemed

> by a couple of hours later, he was very hyper. I rubbed his back

> with Epsom Salt Lotion and it seemed to really calm him down.

> at times more agressive. He is not normally agressive but he bit

> me and his sister as well as really pulled her hair.

> a little more self injury. Doesn't usually do this alot, but it

> seems he is pulling his own hair more.

> more self stimulation. He hadn't been spinning himself lately, and

> he did that some today (still not that bad..it might just be an

> active 2 year old thing)

>

> Also, he hasn't been getting much phenolic foods as we had limited

> those. How should I go about reintroducing some of the less

> offensive ones? How quickly should I up him to 1/2 capsule with

> each meal? I was planning on doing it slowly over about 1-2

weeks?

> Is that OK? Also, when should I introduce the zyme-prime? THANKS

> so much for all your help.

>

>

> mom to Sam 2 years ASD and Madelyn 1 year

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