julie's update -WAS - anxiety / tearful outbursts

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It has been too long since I posted, and I should have posted sooner

to give an update.

For those who have no idea of my earlier post, our son had been

having tearful sudden outbursts at school and at home, and seemed

more anxious, since re-starting the HN-Zyme, after a long period of

non-use due to its papain and bromelain content.

THANKS SO MUCH to all who replied and reassured me! You were all

correct in saying it would likely stop at around 3 weeks. IT DID!

We still seem better with a really low dose - one cap used over about

a day of the zyme, but one afp pep with each mea\l and snack.

HOWEVER - we still have two issues I want to resolve - well, more,

but 2 will do for starters.

1] SLEEP - is still not a brilliant sleeper - finds it hard to

get to sleep before 10pm, and sleeps sometimes only 8 hours, or less,

if he comes into our bed. This seemed to improve on the zyme, but

only very briefly

2] STILL NO HAPPY CHILD EFFECT - I always used to see him as a really

happy, smiley boy, but he often has that flatt affect these days, and

can get quite anxious still. We get major reactions every time we try

even the tiniest bit of no-fenol. When I tried a couple of weeks ago,

and a little more tipped into the drink than I had meant it to, which

made it still less than 1/6 cap, he was up half the night.

He has been on the sc diet for two and a half years, still gets

hardly any fruit, no juice, uses sacro-b daily and the special

probiotic yogurt made with goat milk - but it sounds so like

yeast......poops are good, however. He still has constant videos in

his head, and lots of scripting, and is okay with folks at school,

but after 2 years of his being able to come to church with us, is

still not even replying 'hello' to those who talk to him.

THIS must sound awfully negative, whereas he IS doing very well still

at school - small mainstream with shadow - so really I am grateful.

BUT I STILL WANT MORE!!!

ANY SUGGESTIONS??

LAST QUESTION - FEEL FREE TO REPLY OFF LIST - OUR NUTRITIONIST HAS

RECENTLY BEEN SEEING PATRICIA KANE AND I NOTICED SHE HAS BEEN BANNED

FROM SOME LISTS - ANYONE KNOW WHY?

JULIE IN SCOTLAND

[Guest guest]

imo magnesium citrate promotes yeast.

lithium seems to work well for sleep as per my web page, using both

lithium apsarate and orotate. it really has to be used with iodine as

well since it seems to spread and spill iodine.

check out lithium in the index of

http://members.tripod.com/mueller_ranges/links/compendium/compendium.h

tml

scource naturals optizinc helps tolerate frurts and whey and non

addtive cream.........

you are going to have to modify scd a bit to get further gains.

a hair test

> It has been too long since I posted, and I should have posted

sooner

> to give an update.

> For those who have no idea of my earlier post, our son had been

> having tearful sudden outbursts at school and at home, and seemed

> more anxious, since re-starting the HN-Zyme, after a long period of

> non-use due to its papain and bromelain content.

> THANKS SO MUCH to all who replied and reassured me! You were all

> correct in saying it would likely stop at around 3 weeks. IT DID!

>

> We still seem better with a really low dose - one cap used over

about

> a day of the zyme, but one afp pep with each mea\l and snack.

>

> HOWEVER - we still have two issues I want to resolve - well, more,

> but 2 will do for starters.

>

> 1] SLEEP - is still not a brilliant sleeper - finds it hard

to

> get to sleep before 10pm, and sleeps sometimes only 8 hours, or

less,

> if he comes into our bed. This seemed to improve on the zyme, but

> only very briefly

>

> 2] STILL NO HAPPY CHILD EFFECT - I always used to see him as a

really

> happy, smiley boy, but he often has that flatt affect these days,

and

> can get quite anxious still. We get major reactions every time we

try

> even the tiniest bit of no-fenol. When I tried a couple of weeks

ago,

> and a little more tipped into the drink than I had meant it to,

which

> made it still less than 1/6 cap, he was up half the night.

>

> He has been on the sc diet for two and a half years, still gets

> hardly any fruit, no juice, uses sacro-b daily and the special

> probiotic yogurt made with goat milk - but it sounds so like

> yeast......poops are good, however. He still has constant videos in

> his head, and lots of scripting, and is okay with folks at school,

> but after 2 years of his being able to come to church with us, is

> still not even replying 'hello' to those who talk to him.

>

> THIS must sound awfully negative, whereas he IS doing very well

still

> at school - small mainstream with shadow - so really I am grateful.

>

> BUT I STILL WANT MORE!!!

>

> ANY SUGGESTIONS??

>

> LAST QUESTION - FEEL FREE TO REPLY OFF LIST - OUR NUTRITIONIST HAS

> RECENTLY BEEN SEEING PATRICIA KANE AND I NOTICED SHE HAS BEEN

BANNED

> FROM SOME LISTS - ANYONE KNOW WHY?

>

> JULIE IN SCOTLAND

[Guest guest]

> It has been too long since I posted, and I should have posted

sooner

> to give an update.

> For those who have no idea of my earlier post, our son had been

> having tearful sudden outbursts at school and at home, and seemed

> more anxious, since re-starting the HN-Zyme, after a long period of

> non-use due to its papain and bromelain content.

> THANKS SO MUCH to all who replied and reassured me! You were all

> correct in saying it would likely stop at around 3 weeks. IT DID!

>

> We still seem better with a really low dose - one cap used over

about

> a day of the zyme, but one afp pep with each mea\l and snack.

>

> HOWEVER - we still have two issues I want to resolve - well, more,

> but 2 will do for starters.

>

> 1] SLEEP - is still not a brilliant sleeper - finds it hard

to

> get to sleep before 10pm, and sleeps sometimes only 8 hours, or

less,

> if he comes into our bed. This seemed to improve on the zyme, but

> only very briefly

>

> 2] STILL NO HAPPY CHILD EFFECT - I always used to see him as a

really

> happy, smiley boy, but he often has that flatt affect these days,

and

> can get quite anxious still. We get major reactions every time we

try

> even the tiniest bit of no-fenol. When I tried a couple of weeks

ago,

> and a little more tipped into the drink than I had meant it to,

which

> made it still less than 1/6 cap, he was up half the night.

>

> He has been on the sc diet for two and a half years, still gets

> hardly any fruit, no juice, uses sacro-b daily and the special

> probiotic yogurt made with goat milk - but it sounds so like

> yeast......poops are good, however. He still has constant videos in

> his head, and lots of scripting, and is okay with folks at school,

> but after 2 years of his being able to come to church with us, is

> still not even replying 'hello' to those who talk to him.

>

> THIS must sound awfully negative, whereas he IS doing very well

still

> at school - small mainstream with shadow - so really I am grateful.

>

> BUT I STILL WANT MORE!!!

>

> ANY SUGGESTIONS??

>

> LAST QUESTION - FEEL FREE TO REPLY OFF LIST - OUR NUTRITIONIST HAS

> RECENTLY BEEN SEEING PATRICIA KANE AND I NOTICED SHE HAS BEEN

BANNED

> FROM SOME LISTS - ANYONE KNOW WHY?

>

> JULIE IN SCOTLAND

Your child sounds like mine. He's been on the SC diet for 1 year now

but we don't seem to be going anywhere and he's not getting fruit or

juice.

Question, what is this? uses sacro-b daily

I have started my son on 2 to 3 drops of grapefruit seed extract and

1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon of no-fenol twice daily. My son seems to

tolerate it when I give both together. I have not started on the

zyme yet, one dose I gave him last weekend and he didn't seem to

tolerate it. I am starting with a small dose of peptizyde daily

though. My son uses the l.acidophilus from customprobiotics AND the

goat yogurt.

VickiB

looking for answers and hoping for better days ahead.

[Guest guest]

> 1] SLEEP - is still not a brilliant sleeper - finds it hard to

> get to sleep before 10pm, and sleeps sometimes only 8 hours, or less,

> if he comes into our bed. This seemed to improve on the zyme, but

> only very briefly

Many times this is phenol intolerance and/or yeast.

>>We get major reactions every time we try

> even the tiniest bit of no-fenol. When I tried a couple of weeks ago,

> and a little more tipped into the drink than I had meant it to, which

> made it still less than 1/6 cap, he was up half the night.

This can be because of yeast die-off, or because he does not tolerate

the No-Fenol.

Are you using any of the high phenol nuts? Try removing them and see

if that helps. Check phenol content of nuts here

http://www.zip.com.au/~ataraxy/Salic_03.txt

>>but it sounds so like

> yeast......poops are good, however.

My son can have a yeast problem without it showing in the bms.

Dana

[Guest guest]

hi, I am new to Enzymes and just ordering them for my autistic 8 yr

old. but as far as sleep, have you ever tried Melatonin

supplements? They have worked great for my son nd Kirkman labs has

some chewable ones. giev it an hour before bed and he gets sleepy!

good luck!

> It has been too long since I posted, and I should have posted

sooner

> to give an update.

> For those who have no idea of my earlier post, our son had been

> having tearful sudden outbursts at school and at home, and seemed

> more anxious, since re-starting the HN-Zyme, after a long period of

> non-use due to its papain and bromelain content.

> THANKS SO MUCH to all who replied and reassured me! You were all

> correct in saying it would likely stop at around 3 weeks. IT DID!

>

> We still seem better with a really low dose - one cap used over

about

> a day of the zyme, but one afp pep with each mea\l and snack.

>

> HOWEVER - we still have two issues I want to resolve - well, more,

> but 2 will do for starters.

>

> 1] SLEEP - is still not a brilliant sleeper - finds it hard

to

> get to sleep before 10pm, and sleeps sometimes only 8 hours, or

less,

> if he comes into our bed. This seemed to improve on the zyme, but

> only very briefly

>

> 2] STILL NO HAPPY CHILD EFFECT - I always used to see him as a

really

> happy, smiley boy, but he often has that flatt affect these days,

and

> can get quite anxious still. We get major reactions every time we

try

> even the tiniest bit of no-fenol. When I tried a couple of weeks

ago,

> and a little more tipped into the drink than I had meant it to,

which

> made it still less than 1/6 cap, he was up half the night.

>

> He has been on the sc diet for two and a half years, still gets

> hardly any fruit, no juice, uses sacro-b daily and the special

> probiotic yogurt made with goat milk - but it sounds so like

> yeast......poops are good, however. He still has constant videos in

> his head, and lots of scripting, and is okay with folks at school,

> but after 2 years of his being able to come to church with us, is

> still not even replying 'hello' to those who talk to him.

>

> THIS must sound awfully negative, whereas he IS doing very well

still

> at school - small mainstream with shadow - so really I am grateful.

>

> BUT I STILL WANT MORE!!!

>

> ANY SUGGESTIONS??

>

> LAST QUESTION - FEEL FREE TO REPLY OFF LIST - OUR NUTRITIONIST HAS

> RECENTLY BEEN SEEING PATRICIA KANE AND I NOTICED SHE HAS BEEN

BANNED

> FROM SOME LISTS - ANYONE KNOW WHY?

>

> JULIE IN SCOTLAND