Re: General appeal for suggestions--Lucy not tolerating supps

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Hi

Have you tried Brainchild? You can get a little smaple bottle so you can try

it out without spending heaps? They also have a new sensitive formula. If

you haven;t tried already I would give Terri a ring and get her advice

_www.brainchildnutritionals.com_ (http://www.brainchildnutritionals.com)

Mandi in UK

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In a message dated 5/14/2004 11:59:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

wjack@... writes:

> Starting to be scared off from chelation, but I know it's helped a

> lot of kids get over a lot of issues

I started chelating n when I felt I had no other options. Houston

enzymes for 10 months, SCD for 4 months, and still could not get yeast/bacteria

under control for long and he was starting to react to *everything. I was

looking

at my notebook recently and day after day he was melting down and anxious and

pestering, even after a meal like plain organic hamburger and peas.

We're now in the middle of round 16 and he's doing great. Beyond great. I was

not going to chelate -- his hair test didn't even meet the counting rules --

but I felt I had nothing left to try and so I decided to give it a month's

trial. I'm using Andy's protocol, and chelating myself too while I'm at it so I

have an idea what it feels like (my hair test did meet the counting rules).

Anyway, I'm not trying to sell you on anything, just wanted to say that our

experience has been extremely positive. n says the pills make him feel much

better.

Nell

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> Starting to be scared off from chelation, but I know it's helped a

> lot of kids get over a lot of issues.

Well, my son tolerated no supplements except HNI enzymes, until about

round 50 of ALA chelation. So I would recommend you keep researching

it, especially just using ALA which is what I use. Perhaps if you

knew more about it, it would not be as scary?

Good luck.

Dana

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---Nell,

Thanks for your reply. I know both of us are high heavy

metal--mostly from my amalgams and possibly vaccines.

We tried metal-free for a few days when we were just starting to

get info but stopped when we realized it has ALA and dosing

was all wrong. She became much bolder physically (trying

steps by herself) which indicated to me she needs help getting

metals out of her body.

I have to wait to chelate myself til we stop nursing and I've been

having a hard time trying to decide whether to keep nursing (and

giving her amalgam metals with otherwise pretty good stuff) or

stop before chelation.

Thanks again, Nell. I

> > Starting to be scared off from chelation, but I know it's helped

a

> > lot of kids get over a lot of issues

>

> I started chelating n when I felt I had no other options.

Houston

> enzymes for 10 months, SCD for 4 months, and still could not

get yeast/bacteria

> under control for long and he was starting to react to

*everything.

> We're now in the middle of round 16 and he's doing great.

Beyond great.

> Anyway, I'm not trying to sell you on anything, just wanted to say

that our

> experience has been extremely positive. n says the pills

make him feel much

> better.

>

> Nell

>

>

>

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Dana, my son also has alot of trouble with tolerating supplements and

poor eating habits. everyone says heal the gut and then chelate.. but

how do we heal the gut if they feel so sick and do not want to eat or

take their supplements. i have thought of chelating to get him better

and not waiting for his gut to heal...do you know anyone that has done

that??? scary to me, becuase i have seen dilated pupiles just with

supplements i worry about chelation therapy and his health not being

ready for it...... thanks cheryl -

-- In , " danasview " <danasview@y...>

wrote:

>

> > Starting to be scared off from chelation, but I know it's helped a

> > lot of kids get over a lot of issues.

>

>

>

> Well, my son tolerated no supplements except HNI enzymes, until about

> round 50 of ALA chelation. So I would recommend you keep researching

> it, especially just using ALA which is what I use. Perhaps if you

> knew more about it, it would not be as scary?

>

> Good luck.

>

> Dana

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> Dana, my son also has alot of trouble with tolerating supplements and

> poor eating habits. everyone says heal the gut and then chelate..

For my son, I was unable to heal his gut UNTIL I chelated.

but

> how do we heal the gut if they feel so sick and do not want to eat or

> take their supplements. i have thought of chelating to get him better

> and not waiting for his gut to heal...do you know anyone that has done

> that???

Yep, I did.

I use ALA only, and started at a low dose. This worked for my kids.

scary to me, becuase i have seen dilated pupiles just with

> supplements i worry about chelation therapy and his health not being

> ready for it......

My son was " otherwise healthy " , which sounds very strange to me

because he could not eat anything without enzymes and I could not use

supplements, so how could he be " healthy " at all?!

Anyway, I don't know your child's issues, but this is what I did.

Good luck.

Dana

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In a message dated 5/17/2004 9:54:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,

danasview@... writes:

> For my son, I was unable to heal his gut UNTIL I chelated.

>

Same here.

Nell

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can you scan the hair test to a jpg and put it in the files section

so people can see it and comment? maybe the metatrix panel as well.

> Hi everyone,

>

> Lucy is doing so well with the enzymes. She's 2 3/4 yrs old and

> her issues have been physical delays, food

> allergies/sensitivities, easily upset, fearful, tense, some OCD

> stuff . We've seen good and improvement in all these areas.

>

> This improvement is in spite of yeast bacteria issues and a

> horribile metametrix Ion panel (vitamins, minerals,...). I know

the

> test is only a snapshot and many would question its validity, but I

> know from her symptoms that vit, minerals and getting

> yeast/bacteria balanced will help her a lot.

>

> She's not tolerating supps very well so far, with the exception of

> Houston enzymes, epsom salt baths, methylcobalamin shots.

>

> She's got a pretty bad looking hair elements test from DDI .

>

> What do I do next? We're wading into SCD to try and get yeast

> and bacteria balance back, but I'm a little panicked. Meat and

> veggies is making me feel extremely hungry and edgy. We can

> do avocados, which are satisfying but she'll be sick of them in a

> week if I overdo it. With all her food sensitivites we can't have

a

> lot of the starchier veggies like winter squash, carrots,...no

dairy,

> nuts, beans, eggs, or fruits. I haven't completely taken her off

> the three grains she eats (teff, quinoa and rice). I've stopped

the

> grains myself and I just don't think it's enough food for her (you

> should see the size of the salads I'm eating).

>

> We tried Biocidin with disasterous results--I think it was a combo

> die-off /intolerance of Biocidin. I know we can move onto the

> other anti yeast/bacteria things and probiotics. If she doesn't

> tolerate these, what next?

>

> Starting to be scared off from chelation, but I know it's helped a

> lot of kids get over a lot of issues.

>

> Any ideas?

> Sorry so long.

>

> Thanks for all the encouragement and wisdom.

>

>

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> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > We've seen good and improvement in all these areas.

> >

> > This improvement is in spite of yeast bacteria issues and a

> > horribile metametrix Ion panel (vitamins, minerals,...).

> > She's not tolerating supps very well so far, with the exception

of

> > Houston enzymes, epsom salt baths, methylcobalamin

shots.

> >

> > She's got a pretty bad looking hair elements test from DDI .

> >

> > What do I do next?

> > Starting to be scared off from chelation,

> >

> > Thanks for all the encouragement and wisdom.

> >

> >