Re: andrew--fluorinated meds information

[Guest guest]

Howdy,

I pulled this info from a site:

" Many medications are packing a potentially lethal hidden dose of

fluoride. Over the past several years, numerous fluoride-containing

medications have been pulled off the market for causing deaths and

illness. Fluoride is highly toxic to the liver. In the liver all

fluorides interfere with the metabolism of thyroid hormones,

creating thyroid disorders and associated diseases, such as muscle

diseases, heart disease, etc. Other effects can include a serious

muscle disease that causes pain and weakness. Many psychoactive

drugs are fluorinated. The fluorine atom is attached to the active

ingredients in many drugs in order to allow them to penetrate into

the brain or other targeted organs more easily. Because the fluoride

enhances the penetrating power of the active ingredient, less of the

active ingredient needs to be made, and the manufacturer can save

money. But the side effects of all the fluoride-containing

medications is scarcely ever discussed as a general health issue.

It is now being revealed that siliconfluoride may have links to

antisocial behavior in youth. Many psychoactive drugs are

fluorinated. The fluorine atom is attached to the active ingredients

in many drugs in order to allow them to penetrate into the brain or

other targeted organs more easily. Because the fluoride enhances the

penetrating power of the active ingredient, less of the active

ingredient needs to be made, and the manufacturer can save money.

But the side effects of all the fluoride-containing medications is

scarcely ever discussed as a general health issue. The primary

ingredients of most psychoactive drugs suppress enzyme production,

and the fluorine ion is also an enzyme inhibitor. The one particular

side effect common to almost all fluorinated drugs, which is

mentioned in the Physician's Desk Reference, is memory loss. These

drugs, including Prozac (fluoxetene)--and Paxil--antidepression

drugs, contain three fluorine atoms in each molecule that quickly

kill the brain-issued enzymes that normally maintain mood stability.

Prozac and Paxil contain the fluoride containing Fluorophenyl

compounds and are also known to cause liver disease. Organic

fluoride compounds undergo extensive transformation in the liver,

and in many instances the resulting metabolites may have higher

activity and/or greater toxicity than the original compound. Prozac

has caused hepatitis and has also been shown to promote tumors in

the liver. Rophypnol (flunitrazepam, or " Roofies, " )--the date rape

drug--is fluorinated Valium, which is about 20-30 times more potent

than Valium alone. Phen-Fen (Fenfluramine) a weight-loss drug,

fluorinated corticosteroids and fluorinated psychoactive drugs all

contain fluoride. In 2000, a U.S. district judge approved a $3.75

billion national settlement of health claims stemming from Fen-Phen.

More than 9,000 lawsuits have been filed against American Home

Products, maker of Fenfluramine. People taking such drugs might

exceed 5 mgs. in just one prescribed application.

We are essentially putting psychoactive drugs into the water supply.

If you go in for surgery, you'll usually be given a fluoride-based

anesthetic because fluoride is virulent enough to throw you into an

immediate coma. Sevoflurane, one of many fluorinated agents used in

anesthesia, such as florinated Halothane, is thought to be

responsible for renal failure. Hydrogen fluoride is the only toxic

element in the nerve gas Sarin (1500 times more poisonous than

cyanide) used in the Japanese subway attack. On August 8th, 2001,

Baycol--a cholesterol-lowering drug taken by 700,000 Americans--was

pulled off the market. It had been linked to 31 U.S. deaths. Bayer

AG, the maker of the drug, would not disclose the total number of

deaths worldwide. Scientists have found that all fluoride compounds

interfere with thyroid hormones. Numerous congenital abnormalities

have been reported due to first trimester exposure to Fluconsazole,

a systemic anti-fungal agent. There have been numerous fluorinated

drugs removed from the market recently. Most have been shown to

cause serious adverse cardiac effects, probably due to fluoride's

adverse effects on thyroid hormone activity. "

I hope this helps.

Pam

> -- I recall that you have spoken about the downfalls/dangers

of

> fluorinated meds before, but I don't recall the details... can you

> tell me again why fluorinated products are not so good. I just

found

> out that my son's asthma med (flovent) is a fluorinated steroid.

I

> knew it was a steroid, but I didn't know it was fluorinated. What

> are the dangers again? (Also for others on the list whose kids

use

> pulmicort, that too, is fluorinated).

> TIA,

> W

[Guest guest]

Uh, [picking my jaw up off the floor] yeah, it helps! Helps me be

more determined to " cure " Ethan's asthma, that's for sure. And I'm

off to find out what are some non-fluorinated alternatives for him.

Thanks very much,

W

>> I hope this helps.

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

Pam - do you remember which site had the info on fluoride below? I

just recently asked two of our doctors about this very issue because

our son is on a microdose of Prozac. Both (one mainstream ped. neuro

and one DAN! doc) said it was not a concern given the tiny dose.

When I have looked for info online, the majority of what I've found

is lots of assertions without any solid references cited.

> Howdy,

>

> I pulled this info from a site:

>

> " Many medications are packing a potentially lethal hidden dose of

> fluoride. Over the past several years, numerous fluoride-containing

> medications have been pulled off the market for causing deaths and

> illness. Fluoride is highly toxic to the liver. In the liver all

> fluorides interfere with the metabolism of thyroid hormones,

> creating thyroid disorders and associated diseases, such as muscle

> diseases, heart disease, etc. Other effects can include a serious

> muscle disease that causes pain and weakness. Many psychoactive

> drugs are fluorinated. The fluorine atom is attached to the active

> ingredients in many drugs in order to allow them to penetrate into

> the brain or other targeted organs more easily. Because the

fluoride

> enhances the penetrating power of the active ingredient, less of

the

> active ingredient needs to be made, and the manufacturer can save

> money. But the side effects of all the fluoride-containing

> medications is scarcely ever discussed as a general health issue.

>

>

> It is now being revealed that siliconfluoride may have links to

> antisocial behavior in youth. Many psychoactive drugs are

> fluorinated. The fluorine atom is attached to the active

ingredients

> in many drugs in order to allow them to penetrate into the brain or

> other targeted organs more easily. Because the fluoride enhances

the

> penetrating power of the active ingredient, less of the active

> ingredient needs to be made, and the manufacturer can save money.

> But the side effects of all the fluoride-containing medications is

> scarcely ever discussed as a general health issue. The primary

> ingredients of most psychoactive drugs suppress enzyme production,

> and the fluorine ion is also an enzyme inhibitor. The one

particular

> side effect common to almost all fluorinated drugs, which is

> mentioned in the Physician's Desk Reference, is memory loss. These

> drugs, including Prozac (fluoxetene)--and Paxil--antidepression

> drugs, contain three fluorine atoms in each molecule that quickly

> kill the brain-issued enzymes that normally maintain mood stability.

>

>

> Prozac and Paxil contain the fluoride containing Fluorophenyl

> compounds and are also known to cause liver disease. Organic

> fluoride compounds undergo extensive transformation in the liver,

> and in many instances the resulting metabolites may have higher

> activity and/or greater toxicity than the original compound. Prozac

> has caused hepatitis and has also been shown to promote tumors in

> the liver. Rophypnol (flunitrazepam, or " Roofies, " )--the date rape

> drug--is fluorinated Valium, which is about 20-30 times more potent

> than Valium alone. Phen-Fen (Fenfluramine) a weight-loss drug,

> fluorinated corticosteroids and fluorinated psychoactive drugs all

> contain fluoride. In 2000, a U.S. district judge approved a $3.75

> billion national settlement of health claims stemming from Fen-

Phen.

> More than 9,000 lawsuits have been filed against American Home

> Products, maker of Fenfluramine. People taking such drugs might

> exceed 5 mgs. in just one prescribed application.

>

>

> We are essentially putting psychoactive drugs into the water

supply.

> If you go in for surgery, you'll usually be given a fluoride-based

> anesthetic because fluoride is virulent enough to throw you into an

> immediate coma. Sevoflurane, one of many fluorinated agents used in

> anesthesia, such as florinated Halothane, is thought to be

> responsible for renal failure. Hydrogen fluoride is the only toxic

> element in the nerve gas Sarin (1500 times more poisonous than

> cyanide) used in the Japanese subway attack. On August 8th, 2001,

> Baycol--a cholesterol-lowering drug taken by 700,000 Americans--was

> pulled off the market. It had been linked to 31 U.S. deaths. Bayer

> AG, the maker of the drug, would not disclose the total number of

> deaths worldwide. Scientists have found that all fluoride compounds

> interfere with thyroid hormones. Numerous congenital abnormalities

> have been reported due to first trimester exposure to Fluconsazole,

> a systemic anti-fungal agent. There have been numerous fluorinated

> drugs removed from the market recently. Most have been shown to

> cause serious adverse cardiac effects, probably due to fluoride's

> adverse effects on thyroid hormone activity. "

>

> I hope this helps.

>

> Pam

[Guest guest]

,

I posted some links a minute ago.

I am a little miffed by the DAN! doc's response. It seems they

would be more cautious than that.

I just wonder if some of these affected kids have an inability to

excrete these toxins in a timely manner (or at all?). If they

cannot excrete mercury, let's say, then why not think they have a

problem excreting or storing other elements like fluorine?

I have learned quickly that blanket statements about safety cannot

be taken to heart. There is ALWAYS an exception to the rule.

Take care,

Pam

> > Howdy,

> >

> > I pulled this info from a site:

> >

> > " Many medications are packing a potentially lethal hidden dose

of

> > fluoride. Over the past several years, numerous fluoride-

containing

> > medications have been pulled off the market for causing deaths

and

> > illness. Fluoride is highly toxic to the liver. In the liver all

> > fluorides interfere with the metabolism of thyroid hormones,

> > creating thyroid disorders and associated diseases, such as

muscle

> > diseases, heart disease, etc. Other effects can include a

serious

> > muscle disease that causes pain and weakness. Many psychoactive

> > drugs are fluorinated. The fluorine atom is attached to the

active

> > ingredients in many drugs in order to allow them to penetrate

into

> > the brain or other targeted organs more easily. Because the

> fluoride

> > enhances the penetrating power of the active ingredient, less of

> the

> > active ingredient needs to be made, and the manufacturer can

save

> > money. But the side effects of all the fluoride-containing

> > medications is scarcely ever discussed as a general health

issue.

> >

> >

> > It is now being revealed that siliconfluoride may have links to

> > antisocial behavior in youth. Many psychoactive drugs are

> > fluorinated. The fluorine atom is attached to the active

> ingredients

> > in many drugs in order to allow them to penetrate into the brain

or

> > other targeted organs more easily. Because the fluoride enhances

> the

> > penetrating power of the active ingredient, less of the active

> > ingredient needs to be made, and the manufacturer can save

money.

> > But the side effects of all the fluoride-containing medications

is

> > scarcely ever discussed as a general health issue. The primary

> > ingredients of most psychoactive drugs suppress enzyme

production,

> > and the fluorine ion is also an enzyme inhibitor. The one

> particular

> > side effect common to almost all fluorinated drugs, which is

> > mentioned in the Physician's Desk Reference, is memory loss.

These

> > drugs, including Prozac (fluoxetene)--and Paxil--antidepression

> > drugs, contain three fluorine atoms in each molecule that

quickly

> > kill the brain-issued enzymes that normally maintain mood

stability.

> >

> >

> > Prozac and Paxil contain the fluoride containing Fluorophenyl

> > compounds and are also known to cause liver disease. Organic

> > fluoride compounds undergo extensive transformation in the

liver,

> > and in many instances the resulting metabolites may have higher

> > activity and/or greater toxicity than the original compound.

Prozac

> > has caused hepatitis and has also been shown to promote tumors

in

> > the liver. Rophypnol (flunitrazepam, or " Roofies, " )--the date

rape

> > drug--is fluorinated Valium, which is about 20-30 times more

potent

> > than Valium alone. Phen-Fen (Fenfluramine) a weight-loss drug,

> > fluorinated corticosteroids and fluorinated psychoactive drugs

all

> > contain fluoride. In 2000, a U.S. district judge approved a

$3.75

> > billion national settlement of health claims stemming from Fen-

> Phen.

> > More than 9,000 lawsuits have been filed against American Home

> > Products, maker of Fenfluramine. People taking such drugs might

> > exceed 5 mgs. in just one prescribed application.

> >

> >

> > We are essentially putting psychoactive drugs into the water

> supply.

> > If you go in for surgery, you'll usually be given a fluoride-

based

> > anesthetic because fluoride is virulent enough to throw you into

an

> > immediate coma. Sevoflurane, one of many fluorinated agents used

in

> > anesthesia, such as florinated Halothane, is thought to be

> > responsible for renal failure. Hydrogen fluoride is the only

toxic

> > element in the nerve gas Sarin (1500 times more poisonous than

> > cyanide) used in the Japanese subway attack. On August 8th,

2001,

> > Baycol--a cholesterol-lowering drug taken by 700,000 Americans--

was

> > pulled off the market. It had been linked to 31 U.S. deaths.

Bayer

> > AG, the maker of the drug, would not disclose the total number

of

> > deaths worldwide. Scientists have found that all fluoride

compounds

> > interfere with thyroid hormones. Numerous congenital

abnormalities

> > have been reported due to first trimester exposure to

Fluconsazole,

> > a systemic anti-fungal agent. There have been numerous

fluorinated

> > drugs removed from the market recently. Most have been shown to

> > cause serious adverse cardiac effects, probably due to

fluoride's

> > adverse effects on thyroid hormone activity. "

> >

> > I hope this helps.

> >

> > Pam

[Guest guest]

fluoride is very very oxidising, its a huge stress for kids already

with heavy metal oxidation problems.

the trouble with any form of medical advice these days is like

mercury toxic dentists, the whole neural health game has been shifted

so far into deficit by public health interventions, ersazt diet etc

that no-one can think straight any more and if you start treating

docotrs as mr then you will get some where.

it right across the board, cretinisms in all aspects of public life,

like it was unbelievable what the usa hosiptal admistration has done

to iraq soldiers with vaccination ..........schools are just plain

moronic and virus incubators........... what the cia did in irag was

unreal, dismantled the only elements(iraq army and intelligence)

capable of keeping the population in check .............

> > > Howdy,

> > >

> > > I pulled this info from a site:

> > >

> > > " Many medications are packing a potentially lethal hidden dose

> of

> > > fluoride. Over the past several years, numerous fluoride-

> containing

> > > medications have been pulled off the market for causing deaths

> and

> > > illness. Fluoride is highly toxic to the liver. In the liver

all

> > > fluorides interfere with the metabolism of thyroid hormones,

> > > creating thyroid disorders and associated diseases, such as

> muscle

> > > diseases, heart disease, etc. Other effects can include a

> serious

> > > muscle disease that causes pain and weakness. Many psychoactive

> > > drugs are fluorinated. The fluorine atom is attached to the

> active

> > > ingredients in many drugs in order to allow them to penetrate

> into

> > > the brain or other targeted organs more easily. Because the

> > fluoride

> > > enhances the penetrating power of the active ingredient, less

of

> > the

> > > active ingredient needs to be made, and the manufacturer can

> save

> > > money. But the side effects of all the fluoride-containing

> > > medications is scarcely ever discussed as a general health

> issue.

> > >

> > >

> > > It is now being revealed that siliconfluoride may have links to

> > > antisocial behavior in youth. Many psychoactive drugs are

> > > fluorinated. The fluorine atom is attached to the active

> > ingredients

> > > in many drugs in order to allow them to penetrate into the

brain

> or

> > > other targeted organs more easily. Because the fluoride

enhances

> > the

> > > penetrating power of the active ingredient, less of the active

> > > ingredient needs to be made, and the manufacturer can save

> money.

> > > But the side effects of all the fluoride-containing medications

> is

> > > scarcely ever discussed as a general health issue. The primary

> > > ingredients of most psychoactive drugs suppress enzyme

> production,

> > > and the fluorine ion is also an enzyme inhibitor. The one

> > particular

> > > side effect common to almost all fluorinated drugs, which is

> > > mentioned in the Physician's Desk Reference, is memory loss.

> These

> > > drugs, including Prozac (fluoxetene)--and Paxil--antidepression

> > > drugs, contain three fluorine atoms in each molecule that

> quickly

> > > kill the brain-issued enzymes that normally maintain mood

> stability.

> > >

> > >

> > > Prozac and Paxil contain the fluoride containing Fluorophenyl

> > > compounds and are also known to cause liver disease. Organic

> > > fluoride compounds undergo extensive transformation in the

> liver,

> > > and in many instances the resulting metabolites may have higher

> > > activity and/or greater toxicity than the original compound.

> Prozac

> > > has caused hepatitis and has also been shown to promote tumors

> in

> > > the liver. Rophypnol (flunitrazepam, or " Roofies, " )--the date

> rape

> > > drug--is fluorinated Valium, which is about 20-30 times more

> potent

> > > than Valium alone. Phen-Fen (Fenfluramine) a weight-loss drug,

> > > fluorinated corticosteroids and fluorinated psychoactive drugs

> all

> > > contain fluoride. In 2000, a U.S. district judge approved a

> $3.75

> > > billion national settlement of health claims stemming from Fen-

> > Phen.

> > > More than 9,000 lawsuits have been filed against American Home

> > > Products, maker of Fenfluramine. People taking such drugs might

> > > exceed 5 mgs. in just one prescribed application.

> > >

> > >

> > > We are essentially putting psychoactive drugs into the water

> > supply.

> > > If you go in for surgery, you'll usually be given a fluoride-

> based

> > > anesthetic because fluoride is virulent enough to throw you

into

> an

> > > immediate coma. Sevoflurane, one of many fluorinated agents

used

> in

> > > anesthesia, such as florinated Halothane, is thought to be

> > > responsible for renal failure. Hydrogen fluoride is the only

> toxic

> > > element in the nerve gas Sarin (1500 times more poisonous than

> > > cyanide) used in the Japanese subway attack. On August 8th,

> 2001,

> > > Baycol--a cholesterol-lowering drug taken by 700,000 Americans--

> was

> > > pulled off the market. It had been linked to 31 U.S. deaths.

> Bayer

> > > AG, the maker of the drug, would not disclose the total number

> of

> > > deaths worldwide. Scientists have found that all fluoride

> compounds

> > > interfere with thyroid hormones. Numerous congenital

> abnormalities

> > > have been reported due to first trimester exposure to

> Fluconsazole,

> > > a systemic anti-fungal agent. There have been numerous

> fluorinated

> > > drugs removed from the market recently. Most have been shown to

> > > cause serious adverse cardiac effects, probably due to

> fluoride's

> > > adverse effects on thyroid hormone activity. "

> > >

> > > I hope this helps.

> > >

> > > Pam