Re: 2.5 year old: adjustments to enzymes questions

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>>No BM probs unless she ate melon.

My son did not tolerate orange or green foods, even with enzymes.

>>Language and play improved, but

> eye stims and hyperactivity also increased. That sounded like the

> normal progression. She also began demanding her 'paci' more and

> chewing on her fingers/objects when she couldn't get it.

Try removing all orange and green foods, keep the No-Fenol, see if

this helps.

One of my kids would chew on things if he was eating a food or

supplement he did not tolerate, or if he had a yeast issue.

>>Unfortunately, she doesn't eat much(is this typical toddler?)

What does she eat?

> 2) zinc has been suggested here for " the chewies " --should I supp

> this, and if so, how much and when? Any other hope for my little

> rabbit?

You can try zinc first, because that is helpful for many kids. If it

does not fully address the problem, try rotating foods to find what

she still might not tolerate.

Dana

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Currently dd eats: turkey/beef hotdogs from Applegate Farms

(additive/sugar-free), homemade pork sausage links (less frequently

now), fried sweet potato, popcorn, sometimes corn, some homemade

tomato sauce, duck eggs 2x/week, millet bread, amaranth pancakes,

blueberries 1x/every other week, pear and Kirkman's Pear Leather,

bananas 2x/week. I can get carrots, spinach, zuchini into her if I

blend them into the tom sauce or gfcf muffins. We've also had

success w/raw milk cheese.

These are the only foods I've been able to get her to eat with any

regularity. She rejects mashed foods, and the rest of the

recommended foods she simply won't touch. She's been on a rotation

diet since Feb., so we have a good idea if a food is obviously

bothering her.

I know there are several offending phenolic foods on this list, but

they don't seem to produce negative results unless she consumes them

en masse. With the NF and the rotation diet, they don't seem to be a

problem.

I suppose I'm just concerned about her nibbly eating habits. She

seems to be accepting FEWER foods on the enzymes, actually. Last

fall, she'd eat homemade lamb sausages and cooked carrots, for

example. No way, now.

> >>No BM probs unless she ate melon.

>

>

> My son did not tolerate orange or green foods, even with enzymes.

>

>

> >>Language and play improved, but

> > eye stims and hyperactivity also increased. That sounded like

the

> > normal progression. She also began demanding her 'paci' more and

> > chewing on her fingers/objects when she couldn't get it.

>

>

> Try removing all orange and green foods, keep the No-Fenol, see if

> this helps.

>

> One of my kids would chew on things if he was eating a food or

> supplement he did not tolerate, or if he had a yeast issue.

>

>

> >>Unfortunately, she doesn't eat much(is this typical toddler?)

>

>

> What does she eat?

>

>

> > 2) zinc has been suggested here for " the chewies " --should I supp

> > this, and if so, how much and when? Any other hope for my little

> > rabbit?

>

>

> You can try zinc first, because that is helpful for many kids. If

it

> does not fully address the problem, try rotating foods to find what

> she still might not tolerate.

>

> Dana

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>>fried sweet potato, popcorn, sometimes corn, some homemade

> tomato sauce,

My son tolerated none of these, even with No-Fenol. But popcorn was

the absolute worst.

> I know there are several offending phenolic foods on this list, but

> they don't seem to produce negative results unless she consumes them

> en masse. With the NF and the rotation diet, they don't seem to be a

> problem.

Well then that is a good thing. But be watchful, if you give

different foods every day, but they are all affecting her, then you

won't really notice a difference. I had to remove ALL the orange and

green foods, plus a few others that were obvious problems, before I

noticed good improvement.

> I suppose I'm just concerned about her nibbly eating habits. She

> seems to be accepting FEWER foods on the enzymes, actually. Last

> fall, she'd eat homemade lamb sausages and cooked carrots, for

> example. No way, now.

She may be starting to limit only to those foods she does not tolerate

with the enzymes.

Good luck.

Dana

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Hi Shanna!

>>>> Thank you, , for your great book--what hope it gave me when

I read it! My DD is 2.5y/o and MUCH MUCH improved on enzyme supps.

Her receptive hearing just soared!! Now we have a few questions.

GREAT! That's wonderful!

>>>> Unfortunately, she doesn't eat much(is this typical toddler?)

Sounds very typical...even if giving all 'healthy' foods. I read over

your list of foods in another message and it seems like a balanced

diet. There are selections from all the major food groups. It is

common for people to fall into a pattern of eating certain foods for

awhile...occassionally switching to something else. Adults do that

all the time.

>>>> Right now I guess I'm not terribly worried, as she's a very

healthy weight and height. She still gets epsom salts w/bath.

Good and good! When looking at the quantity of food a child eats,

don't go day by day. Compare it over one week to the next. An

appetite can fluctuate with a couple days. Sort of like people saying

not to weigh yourself every day if you are on a weightloss diet.

Weigh once a week. And compare it to how active she is.

>>>Yeast is an issue for her, so we'll start Candex instead of the

nystatin soon;

Have you used the nystatin WITH enzymes before (either with Candidase

or No-Fenol)? If not, try that. There is a synergistic effect of the

yeast-control enzyme is taken with any of the yeast-killers, either

prescription or over-the-counter.

>>>> 1) should I cut back on the enzymes? Is she getting too much?

About one serving is typical for digestion. However, you might try

upping it to 2 capsules (or two servings) for a couple days. I just

read on another board where a mom was only seeing so-so results with

No-Fenol for a while and then increased it to 2 capsules. Then she

saw tremendous improvements in her phenol-sensitive child. On the one

capsule, the child still couldn't eat many of the phenol/salicylate

foods, but on 2 capsules, she could eat anything. Try that before

going on to something else since you are already giving enzymes.

>>>> 2) zinc has been suggested here for " the chewies " --should I supp

> this, and if so, how much and when? Any other hope for my little

> rabbit?

I gave my son 500 mg of soluble magnesium, and 20 mg of zinc chelate.

RDA for zinc is about 3 mg so this was a big increase. After 6 months

on enzymes and these extra minerals he no longer has the chewies and

I don't give extra zinc. If you see adverse responses to the zinc,

lower the dose. It could be detoxing too quickly.

>>>> 4) finally, what should I have expected in moving from one

enzyme brand to another?

You might see no change, you might see incredible change either up or

down. Just depends. For one thing, if you don't have the right

enzymes for the right problem, you won't see the results you are

looking for. Or you might have a brand that gives some improvement

but if you switch to another one, you will see huge improvement.

Brand matters. I am learning more and more that there is a great deal

that goes on in enzyme formulations that isn't listed on the label.

There are interactions and side-reactions that are had to quantify.

Or manufacturing differences. And because everyone is different, one

person might just respond better to one product over another.

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