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Zdenka, I'm sorry you have to deal with this, but at least a diagnosis has been found. Many people go so long without diagnosis that the disease is far advanced. Keep in mind that a study in England shows that most people who respond to conventional therapy (and none other has proved effective) have normal lifespans. Life with AIH is a little different, but it is very good.

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Missy, my opinion is very strongly that you should discuss your illness with your children. They certainly know something is wrong. Having knowledge will lessen their fears and allow them to know what help you need, and why you need it. I imagine the five-year-old and the 15-year-old will need to know different things.

Before you speak to them, make sure you have your information together. Fibrosis stage 3 may not be nearly as bad as you think it is. You may very well have a normal life span. Many people with AIH, even if they have a transplant, go on to very active, productive lives. On the other hand, you may have to deal with fatigue for a long time and need help in arranging your life around it. That's not the end of the world -- it just takes some changes and support.

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In a message dated 3/13/05 2:54:00 AM, writes:

.. . . I asked my husband if we should talk with our two

children one is 15yrs. and the other is 5yrs. They know that I have

been really sick. . . .

Missy

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Kelli, don't overdo it. You may find you are running on "false energy". A lot of us, early in Prednisone treatment, are very energetic and do a lot -- and then we crash hard, taking a long time to recover. That crash can be very dispiriting. Sometimes it may be better to go more slowly, do a little at a time, rather than run out of steam entirely.

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.. . . I am wired.  up since 5 this morning buzzing like a

busy bee, and up at 3:00 am  previous morning.  I figure that I will

take it an run with it since it's the first time honestly since the

first of the year that I have energy.  So I figure I can get a head

on everything . . .

Kelli

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I found this in wrongdiagnosis.com.

The term 'prevalence' of Autoimmune Hepatitis usually refers to the estimated population of people who are managing Autoimmune Hepatitis at any given time.

Prevalance of Autoimmune Hepatitis: 1,156 people in the USA 1996

Prevalance Rate: approx 1 in 235,294 or 0.00% or 1,156 people in USA

My interpretation of this is that the total number of people in the U.S. with AIH, as of 1996, was about 1200. That's a lot fewer than I thought. The first couple of months I was diagnosed, five years ago, I met two people with AIH, not in medical settings, but just by chance! Since then I've met no one else.

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Harper,

Thanks for finding that out.

Kelli

> I found this in wrongdiagnosis.com.

>

> The term 'prevalence' of Autoimmune Hepatitis usually refers to

the estimated

> population of people who are managing Autoimmune Hepatitis at any

given time.

>

>

> Prevalance of Autoimmune Hepatitis: 1,156 people in the USA 1996

> Prevalance Rate: approx 1 in 235,294 or 0.00% or 1,156 people in

USA

>

> My interpretation of this is that the total number of people in

the U.S. with

> AIH, as of 1996, was about 1200. That's a lot fewer than I

thought. The

> first couple of months I was diagnosed, five years ago, I met two

people with

> AIH, not in medical settings, but just by chance! Since then

I've met no one

> else.

> Harper

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Harper,

Your right, I have a return of the nausea today. It did feel

really good to get some extra things done, and get a little more

organized. Somehow it gives me a peace of mind to know that I have

things set up so that the household duties are spread out for my

family, and we can keep the kaos to a minimum. That is how I seem

to find peace in this crazy life, and I am sure peace with this

crazy disease.

It is weird to sit here thinking that I really have no idea how this

is really going to take it's tole on me and play out, I could have

only a few years before I get so bad that I need a liver transplant,

or I may have many years of struggle before I reach that point if

ever, As do all of us with this disease. I feel like I have to

prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

I will take more care from here on out. So are you doing well right

now with your disease?

Kelli

> Kelli, don't overdo it. You may find you are running on " false

energy " .

> A lot of us, early in Prednisone treatment, are very energetic and

do a lot

> -- and then we crash hard, taking a long time to recover. That

crash can be

> very dispiriting. Sometimes it may be better to go more slowly,

do a little

> at a time, rather than run out of steam entirely.

> Harper

>

> In a message dated 3/13/05 2:54:00 AM, LiverSupport-

L writes:

>

> > . . . I am wired.  up since 5 this morning buzzing like a

> > busy bee, and up at 3:00 am  previous morning.  I figure that I

will

> > take it an run with it since it's the first time honestly since

the

> > first of the year that I have energy.  So I figure I can get a

head

> > on everything . . .

> > Kelli

> >

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YIKES! These are horrible

odds..no wonder they don’t how to treat it!

Debby

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Digest Number 3891

I found this in wrongdiagnosis.com.

The term 'prevalence' of

Autoimmune Hepatitis usually refers to the estimated population of people who

are managing Autoimmune Hepatitis at any given time.

Prevalance of Autoimmune Hepatitis:

1,156 people in the USA 1996

Prevalance Rate: approx 1 in 235,294 or 0.00% or 1,156 people in USA

My interpretation of this is that the total number of people in the U.S. with

AIH, as of 1996, was about 1200. That's a lot fewer than I thought.

The first couple of months I was diagnosed, five years ago, I met two people

with AIH, not in medical settings, but just by chance! Since then I've

met no one else.

Harper

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Dear Harper,

Hi! That was me who said that there are about 1100 people in the US with

AIH. I will try to find the article for you, may take a while because I

have been really busy with work.

Thanks,

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I just copied this off another forum I belong to....and thought folks here

might be interested.

Ronni

" GOL " claims they have a " patented " process that keeps probiotic

levels high for lengthy periods, but in graduate school, all of my

advisers said patent claims protect the " process " that is claimed,

and that crucial details and the claims themselves don't always

work. At a previous employer, we had 4 patents for the same

process, and the patent claims weren't as great as they claimed to

be. (No idea why this is, as patents and attorneys are expensive.)

Anyway, I hope this helps list members!

Consumer Reports tested yogurt and probiotic supplements for their

levels of active cultures, and found Garden of Life's Primal Defense

HSO to have lower amts of active cultures although it was 3-6x more

expensive than supplements with higher amts. The study appears in

the July '05 issue (p. 34-5). (www.ConsumerReports.org)

" CR " recommended products with at least 1 billion colony-forming

units (CFUs), the minimum thought to benefit health. Products with

1-10B CFUs tend to cost less than those with higher levels, CR says.

CR found that 4 of the 14 supplements had no more than half of their

claimed CFUs at testing time, although a higher amt was claimed at

the time of mfr. Origin Acidophilus, sold at Target, claimed 100

million CFUs per serving, but was found to have 20 million, for

example.

All of the products tested were listed in the " highest " or " lower "

categories and listed by cost per serving (yogurt) or per day

(supplements). No CFU count was reported for the CFUs claimed or

what CR's tests found.

The findings, listed under " highest " or " lower " probiotic levels and

listed by cost (in cents if less than 100 (i.e., $1.00):

HIGHEST

Yogurts (all strawberry flavored): Breyers Fruit on the Btm Lowfat

(85), Columbo Lt (85), Dannon Fruit on the Btm Lowfat (60),

Stonyfield Farm Organic Lowfat (890), Youplait Original Lowfat (70).

Supplements: bio-K Plus Acidophilus/Casei (liq'd), (450);

Continental Natural Acidophilus culture (liqd) (117); Dannon

DavActive Immunity (liqd) (60); Twin Lab Super Acidophilus (90).

[the lst 2 entries here had lower levels than claimed by the mfr.]

HIGH

Supplements: Country Life Power-Dohpilus, 36; Natrol Acidophilus,

15; Nature Made Acidophilus, 40; Nature's Bounty Extra Strength

Acidophilus w/Pectin, 17; Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri, 42

(lower amt than mfr claimed); Nutrition Now PB-8 Acidophilus, 37;

Solaray Acidophilus plus Goat's Milk, 24 (lower amt than mfr's

claims); Solgar Advanced Acidophilus, 18 (limited supply); Vitamin

World Milk Free Acidophilus, 18 (lower amt than mfr claimed).

LOWER

Supplements: American Health Acidophilus (liqd), 189 (lower amt than

mfr claimed); Enzymatic Therapy Acidophilus Pearls, 46; Garden of

Life Primal Defense HSO, 120; Origin (Target sells) Acidohpilus, 6

(that's $.06) (lower amt than mfr claims); Sundown Acidophilus XTRA,

17.

For the number, " 17 " (or (17) would be $.17 or 17 cts; " 189 " would

be $1.89.

CR says to be wary of claims that probiotics " strengthen " the body

or promote " better health " as such claims don't require FDA

approval. CR said all supplements disintegrated properly (meaning

the bacteria would be released in the body), but that didn't mean

they'd be released in the intestines. CR says that in theory,

enteric-coated pills

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HI all! :-)

I have also been doing this pretty much on my own. My peds dr said that

GFCF diet woudln't help...and was tooo limiting...and tooo much work.....well

he

is right on one point...it is a lot of work...esp if you do it from scratch

as we do.

I am pretty new and am trying to keep notes and write a journal of all the

input I find...but I run into a lot of abreviations that I haven't a clue

about. Is there a place to find them??

Also would someone mind sharing their Kefir grains with me....I would really

appreciate it. I did try that place with the names and didn't get any

response. So would really appreciate it...

Also could anyone tell me if green coconuts are high in phenols

too.....would like to try them but the kids are really phenol sensitive. I am

going to

get some of the other main enzymes first...i don't know that I should try the

no-phenol first...

thanks

Ronni

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