Re: OT: Bare facts on Bare Minerals and others

[Guest guest]

minerals in pigments has long history of toxicity

queen elizabeth the first died from the white lead used in make up in

those times.

bismuth is chemically similar to mercury and is only less toxic

because it is solid at room temp and very poorly absorbed but its

something i would be very wary of.

van gogh got poisoned by the pigments in his oil painting and

probably died of lead, mercury and other heavy metal toxicity.

presuambly bare minerals would have overt toxic issues sorted out

like lead but if they have a product with bismuth in..........

vtiamin e, tocotrienols and efas will give very good skin without

makeup

i would encourage readers to use less or no make up as whats in them

gets into the body and theres just no way they are going to be

completely untoxic.

make up is like a mask and is very off putting, you can't see the

real person...................

> I called several places in the company today and checked out some

> other products too. There are several lines of 'minerals' makeup

out.

> You can search on google for minerals makeup to see.

>

> In the Bare Escentuals makeup line, the Mineral Veil has the

> methyparaben but that is the only product that does. All the other

> products are all mineral without any of the extras. I had them

check

> through products for lips, eyes, blushes, foundations, etc. and

> nothing else had parabens or other non-mineral ingredients. I

noticed

> there were lots of small samples on ebay for trying different

colors.

>

> There is a dermatology store here that sells the Jane Iredale line

> and I looked through all those too. Those are all minerals too

> although the ingredient list was longer on several of the products.

>

> There is another line that doesn't contain bisumuth (a mineral)

that

> can irritate some peoples' skin. It is called Monave

www.monave.com.

> They sell samples of most products very inexpensively. Their

products

> are more concentrated and more 'mineral-y'. However, I read some

> reviews that indicated the foundations were a little harder to

apply

> and you needed to get the hang of it. But the eye colors and

shadows

> (micas) were great. You can buy in bulk and buy kits to mix your

own.

>

> A few other lines are Geografx, Aromaleigh, Botany 101, Alpha Skin

> Care, and many others. We have an Aveda store here but many of

their

> products contain synthetic ingredients including dyes like Red #40

> and Yellow #5. Not that natural after all.

>

> The thing with minerals is they are relatively much much better for

> you skin and health than typical cosmetics. You can mix them with

> lotions, water, or coconut oil to make creamy foundations. You can

> mix them with each other to get different shades of bases and

colors.

> Many of the bases and colors you can use for different areas of the

> face. Lots of flexibility. They look and feel more natural.

>

> .

[Guest guest]

Just got an update on ingredients. The Bare Minerals lipsticks MAY

contain synthetic colors but other lip items don't (liners, lip

pencils, glosses, etc). So check the lipsticks if it is a concern.

The Monave, Jane Iredale, and Aromaleigh lipsticks don't contain

synthetics. Didn't check others. All in all, the mineral lines are

still much better than other commercial lines in regards to health.

Burt's Bees has some all-natural cosmetics, but not from just

minerals.

.

[Guest guest]

Ahhhhhhhh....is this regard you are very fortunate, andrew! You don't

have people expecting you to wear high heels or pantyhose either. I

minimize those events as much as possible as well.

The thing about cosmetics is similar to other things...you really

have to check each item carefully and determine what is good enough

overall. For example the aromaleigh may have no synthetics in

lipsticks but they might in the lip-liners. Just as some supplement

companies may say their product is casein-free, mercury-free, other

ingredient-free or all natural, but in fact it is only within the

allowed limits to claim that...not in the literal technical sense.

Like a food can claim 0 calories per serving as long as it is 5

calories or less.

On the other hand, you have to make judgement calls when it is no

longer realistic to worry about molecules of this or that. We really

can't micro-manage biology to the molecular level each

second. 'Within a certain limit' might be good enough a good part of

the time. Or reducing chemical load most of the time without freaking

out over minor or occassional exposures.

.

[Guest guest]

,

What are your opinions on parabens(Butyl,Methyl,ect)? It seems like

reputable companies still use them as preservatives but others say

they are bad.(Aubrey Organics calls them toxic) I recently purchased

some Ecco Bella products and they contained parabens. It is so

exhausting to research every ingredient in every product.

Here is a link to a report from Australia:

http://www.nicnas.gov.au/news/20040123-parabenbreastcancer.asp

Thanks,

Diane