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do you have a hair test?

> If the new formulation was actually causing a viral die-off in my

son would

> that account for the aggressive behaviour? If so what could I do?

> I know what a yeast die-off is supposed to look like but how is a

viral die-off

> different? Charcoal works with yeast die-off but what would work

for the viral,

> charcoal too?

> Need help here - I know killing a virus would be a very good thing

but at this

> point I'd rather put up with the virus than the aggression!

>

> Laurie

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Not a recent one I'm afraid. Had one done in Aug 96.

In Sept 95 he had 2 amalgam fillings put in and he crashed big time!! I had

read " Turning Lead into Gold " and thought that the mercury in the fillings

could be the problem. Ran the test and it came back " minimal risk of toxicity "

Mercury showed up a .4ppm, well below the reference range. I cried my eyes

out, had been so sure it must be the mercury. Now I know that it is possible

that he just wasn't excreting it but didn't know it then.

When the teeth fell out 3 years later things improved immensely for him (but

not back to where he was before the fillings). That is when I was convinced

that regardless what the test said - it was the mercury!

Hadn't done another test because I figured, what's the point the first one

didn't

tell me anything!

BTW - HE knew what the problem was all along (even at age 7). He was and

still is non-verbal but loves to draw. During those 3 years he kept drawing

what we called his 'tooth monster " . It looked like a picture of a molar you'd

see in a kids book but it had a really scary face with eyebrows pointed down

and big

pointy teeth. He would draw these all the time while those fillings were in but

stopped the same time the teeth fell out and hasn't drawn one since.

Would the numbers from that old hair test mean anything to you? I could

post them if you want - probably wouldn't be relevent any more though.

As always, thanks for your help !

Laurie

> > If the new formulation was actually causing a viral die-off in my

> son would

> > that account for the aggressive behaviour? If so what could I do?

> > I know what a yeast die-off is supposed to look like but how is a

> viral die-off

> > different? Charcoal works with yeast die-off but what would work

> for the viral,

> > charcoal too?

> > Need help here - I know killing a virus would be a very good thing

> but at this

> > point I'd rather put up with the virus than the aggression!

> >

> > Laurie

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> If the new formulation was actually causing a viral die-off in my

son would

> that account for the aggressive behaviour? If so what could I do?

For my kids, the first thing I would do is give a strong anti-fungal

like GSE. Viral die off causes yeast for my kids.

> I know what a yeast die-off is supposed to look like but how is a

viral die-off

> different?

My kids never had die off symptoms with yeast or anything else. But

with virus, yes die off. My son will get rash-like bumps, but not

really a " rash " because they appear to be individual bumps, not

located together. Once a virus " breaks " , he will cry for apparently

no reason, then the next day he will have improved. This has happened

3x so far.

Charcoal works with yeast die-off but what would work for the viral,

> charcoal too?

I don't know, but you can sure try it.

> Need help here - I know killing a virus would be a very good thing

but at this

> point I'd rather put up with the virus than the aggression!

Good point! Try the yeast killer first, because that is my son's main

problem with viral die off.

Dana

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> Well, right now with viral die off [and I used a similar amount with

> chelation, altho it was more because I was not using Candidase along

> with it], I am giving 2 tablets GSE plus 5-10 drops liquid GSE, with

> each dose of anti-viral [3-4x per day].

>

> Dana

Yesterday just after a dose, my son got nasty and defiant, and I threw

some probiotics at him, and he was better. So I can now reduce the

dose of GSE, because too much GSE does cause bad bacteria problems,

and bad bacteria does cause nasty and defiant behaviors. So this

morning I gave him only one GSE tablet.

Dana

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too much GSE does cause bad bacteria problems,

I've been noticing that just as we get yeast under control my kids

seem to then need at least a day of antibiotics (I know, I know....but

the probiotics don't seem to help w/this bacteria, and usually just

one dose of antibiotics stops the behaviors.) But I think my kids do

not absorb too much GSE, since I only put it on transdermally - they

take Nystatin though as well. Could Nystatin be doing the same thing?

I just OD'd on GSE myself and I'm on cipro now for a nasty bacterial

infection. It started out as just a mild virus, but I thought it was

yeast and went crazy w/the antifungals. sigh. Well at least I didn't

do it to my kids, this time anyway.

Amy

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hi is that too much of a dose, or too much long term

thanks emma

noahsmom7898 <noahsmom7898@...> wrote:

too much GSE does cause bad bacteria problems,

I've been noticing that just as we get yeast under control my kids

seem to then need at least a day of antibiotics (I know, I know....but

the probiotics don't seem to help w/this bacteria, and usually just

one dose of antibiotics stops the behaviors.) But I think my kids do

not absorb too much GSE, since I only put it on transdermally - they

take Nystatin though as well. Could Nystatin be doing the same thing?

I just OD'd on GSE myself and I'm on cipro now for a nasty bacterial

infection. It started out as just a mild virus, but I thought it was

yeast and went crazy w/the antifungals. sigh. Well at least I didn't

do it to my kids, this time anyway.

Amy

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> I've been noticing that just as we get yeast under control my kids

> seem to then need at least a day of antibiotics (I know, I know....but

> the probiotics don't seem to help w/this bacteria, and usually just

> one dose of antibiotics stops the behaviors.)

I use OLE for both anti-viral and anti-bacterial. It works for us.

>>Could Nystatin be doing the same thing?

Possibly.

Yesterday morning, even the reduced dose of GSE caused problems. So

after the morning dose, I gave only Candidase/No-Fenol plus

probiotics, plus the ViraStop, OLE, and some Lauricidin. This

combination worked well for the rest of the day. I hope this means

the virus/es are almost gone!

Dana

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Dana,

Early on in the viral discussions using lauricidin, I recall you

mentioning the excessive yeast it caused. GSE is not feasible here-

allergy. Did you ever find anything that would help the yeast kicked

up by lauricidin? OLE and Virastop are on allergy no lists-after

recent testing I finally know why these did not give results as others

report. I'd like to resume anti viral[no access to Valtrex despite

begging!] and lauricidin seems to be the 'drug' of choice by

elimination. Thanks,

> I don't want to post how much GSE I have given, but suffice it to say

> it was an amazingly high amount, because that is what he needed to

> eliminate the yeast caused by viral " die off " .

>

> Dana

>

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> Dana,

> Early on in the viral discussions using lauricidin, I recall you

> mentioning the excessive yeast it caused. GSE is not feasible here-

> allergy. Did you ever find anything that would help the yeast kicked

> up by lauricidin?

Uva ursi and garlic worked better than GSE for the yeast caused by

Lauricidin, but nothing was able to kick ALL the yeast that Lauricidin

caused.

>> OLE and Virastop are on allergy no lists-after

> recent testing I finally know why these did not give results as others

> report. I'd like to resume anti viral[no access to Valtrex despite

> begging!] and lauricidin seems to be the 'drug' of choice by

> elimination. Thanks,

Try high doses of vitamin C, that worked very well for my kids.

Not all kids have massive yeast problems with Lauricidin, so it might

work well for you.

Dana

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Dana,

How much lauricidin did you start with?

Thanks,

Sofia

> > Dana,

> > Early on in the viral discussions using lauricidin, I recall you

> > mentioning the excessive yeast it caused. GSE is not feasible

here-

> > allergy. Did you ever find anything that would help the yeast

kicked

> > up by lauricidin?

>

>

> Uva ursi and garlic worked better than GSE for the yeast caused by

> Lauricidin, but nothing was able to kick ALL the yeast that

Lauricidin

> caused.

>

>

> >> OLE and Virastop are on allergy no lists-after

> > recent testing I finally know why these did not give results as

others

> > report. I'd like to resume anti viral[no access to Valtrex

despite

> > begging!] and lauricidin seems to be the 'drug' of choice by

> > elimination. Thanks,

>

>

> Try high doses of vitamin C, that worked very well for my kids.

>

> Not all kids have massive yeast problems with Lauricidin, so it

might

> work well for you.

>

> Dana

>

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