Re: Pitocin and possible neurological damage

[Guest guest]

Josie

When we took our son to the allergist/immunologist/DAN, those things

that you mentioned as the things that push them to the brink, are all

questions he asked, mom's mouth(amalgams) moms allergies/stomach

issues w/certain foods. prenatal history, any immunizations mom had

prior to conceiving, pitocin during delivery, antibiotics in mom, in

baby, any yeast symptoms,Any cancer in the family, depression,

rheumatoid arthritis, any other auto immune diseases. Which just

about hits every family, so these things are all a piece of the

puzzle. I know my son had the most pitocin used out of all my kids,

but I also got hep b series and DTP within 12 months of conceiving

him.So I know that is the only difference between his start versus my

girls start in life.He also had two rounds of antibiotics first two

months of life for uti.General anesthesia as well, for a needed

circumsision,which I was trying not to do, but had to because of

infection.

Colleen

> OK Everyone.

>

>

>

> There seemed to be sufficient interest in this subject to post to

the whole

> group. I haven't had much time to get into the research and dig

deep but a

> few quick searches DID net some interesting things.

>

>

>

> Pitocin is, of course, a synthetic version of oxytocin, a natural

hormone

> women make when breastfeeding or naturally contracting in labor.

Pitocin

> contains the preservative " Chlorobutanol " (but hey - at least it

doesn't

> contain thimerosol right?!) which is known to be a pretty nasty

thing.

>

>

>

> There are people out there who have raised pitocin as a possible

> contributing factor in ASD (and midwives have always raised other

problems

> about it - but that's a different topic altogether!). Some of the

> scientific/chemical literature I came across was above my head.

>

>

>

> Pitocin overdose is definitely pretty nasty - of that you can be

sure.

>

>

>

> I guess I think of these things as factors in what could push a

child over a

> certain threshold (either to ASD, or to certain delays, or simply

to a

> troubled/leaky gut. I have my own little list for the 'early'

stuff I think

> makes a difference for a kid (and I suppose don't we all, right!)

but here

> are some of the things on mine (I'm not a scientist; I have a

research

> background but it isnt in science):

>

> - auto-immune conditions in the family (known or unknown)

>

> - undetected (ie mild) autoimmune issues in the mom

>

> - undetected systemic yeast in the mom

>

> - amalgam mercury fillings and any other heavy metal toxicity in

the mom

>

> - the dad's specific immunity prob plays a big role in here

somewhere too

>

> - mom's impaired ability to impart immunity to kid in utero and

through

> breastfeeding (due to the fact that most women of childbearing age

have

> themselves been vaccinated out the ying yang)

>

> - antibiotics in labor that strip the child's gut of all good

intestinal

> flora (think about the GBS protocol that calls for an antibiotic

drip every

> FOUR hours until you give birth - now in the UK, they handle GBS+

> differently from what I understand; and many midwives follow a

different

> protocol that protects the kid from possible GBS but doesn't

subject mom or

> baby to antibiotics)

>

> - pitocin, if it is a factor

>

> - genetic predisposition in the kid that may include impaired liver

function

> and impaired methylation (lecture at mini DAN! this past weekend

went on at

> length about this)

>

> - many people then go on to do the Hep B vaccine right away

>

>

>

> And that's all BEFORE we start talking about thimerosol in the

actual KID.

>

>

>

> But back to Pitocin. Here are a few relevant links for those who

are

> interested:

>

>

>

> Pitocin

>

> http://www.kingpharm.com/uploads/pdf_inserts/Pitocin_PI.pdf

>

>

>

> Pitocin and autism - speculations

>

>

http://www.collegeofmidwives.org/temporary02/Book_One_Chr_9_Sept02.htm

>

>

>

> Pitocin and class action law suit - preservative chlorobutanol

>

>

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2001/PitocinLawsuit.htm

>

>

>

> http://www.pitocin.bizland.com/storyboard1/_disc2/00000071.htm

>

>

>

> Chlorobutanol - the preservative in pitocin

>

> http://www.athenstaedt.de/englisch/chemikalien/haupt.htm

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Josie!

Yes, I recently heard my first DAN! seminar and we fit the pattern: I have MS,

cancer (carcinoma), amalgams (now replaced with composite), crowns, & root

canals (gutta purcha, the root filling material contails cadmium). I have

always been deficient in digestive enzymes, myself . I also had monster

heartburn - an indicator of untreated H.Pylori infection and low gastric acid.

Looking back I popped Tums like candy. Then that barbaric HMO labor experience

with the Pitocin and I still had a C-Section. Any wonder my gorgeous girl has an

ASD?

I am so grateful for the internet and other parents like you. I hope we are the

last generation that is fooled into accepting the voodoo that has passed for

science that has condemned entire generations to suffering in ignorance.

....C

Pitocin and possible neurological damage

- auto-immune conditions in the family (known or unknown)

- undetected (ie mild) autoimmune issues in the mom

- undetected systemic yeast in the mom

- amalgam mercury fillings and any other heavy metal toxicity in the mom

- the dad's specific immunity prob plays a big role in here somewhere too

- mom's impaired ability to impart immunity to kid in utero and through

breastfeeding (due to the fact that most women of childbearing age have

themselves been vaccinated out the ying yang)

- antibiotics in labor that strip the child's gut of all good intestinal

flora

- pitocin, if it is a factor

- genetic predisposition in the kid that may include impaired liver function

and impaired methylation (lecture at mini DAN! this past weekend went on at

length about this)

- many people then go on to do the Hep B vaccine right away

And that's all BEFORE we start talking about thimerosol in the actual KID.

But back to Pitocin. Here are a few relevant links for those who are

interested:

Pitocin

http://www.kingpharm.com/uploads/pdf_inserts/Pitocin_PI.pdf

Pitocin and autism - speculations

http://www.collegeofmidwives.org/temporary02/Book_One_Chr_9_Sept02.htm

Pitocin and class action law suit - preservative chlorobutanol

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2001/PitocinLawsuit.htm

http://www.pitocin.bizland.com/storyboard1/_disc2/00000071.htm

Chlorobutanol - the preservative in pitocin

http://www.athenstaedt.de/englisch/chemikalien/haupt.htm

[Guest guest]

This is something I have often thought about. I was induced with

Pitocin, stayed in the hospital about 12 hrs and was told that it

wasn't working and was sent home. Four days later I went into labor

and was again given Pitocin and upon having an emergency c-section

because I spiked a high fever it was discovered that I had group b

strep that I had not been tested for and my little girl tested

positive for it the next day. I will always be convinced that this

contributed to Logans autism.

..nelson@e...> wrote:

> OK Everyone.

>

>

>

> There seemed to be sufficient interest in this subject to post to

the whole

> group. I haven't had much time to get into the research and dig

deep but a

> few quick searches DID net some interesting things.

>

>

>

> Pitocin is, of course, a synthetic version of oxytocin, a natural

hormone

> women make when breastfeeding or naturally contracting in labor.

Pitocin

> contains the preservative " Chlorobutanol " (but hey - at least it

doesn't

> contain thimerosol right?!) which is known to be a pretty nasty

thing.

>

>

>

> There are people out there who have raised pitocin as a possible

> contributing factor in ASD (and midwives have always raised other

problems

> about it - but that's a different topic altogether!). Some of the

> scientific/chemical literature I came across was above my head.

>

>

>

> Pitocin overdose is definitely pretty nasty - of that you can be

sure.

>

>

>

> I guess I think of these things as factors in what could push a

child over a

> certain threshold (either to ASD, or to certain delays, or simply

to a

> troubled/leaky gut. I have my own little list for the 'early'

stuff I think

> makes a difference for a kid (and I suppose don't we all, right!)

but here

> are some of the things on mine (I'm not a scientist; I have a

research

> background but it isnt in science):

>

> - auto-immune conditions in the family (known or unknown)

>

> - undetected (ie mild) autoimmune issues in the mom

>

> - undetected systemic yeast in the mom

>

> - amalgam mercury fillings and any other heavy metal toxicity in

the mom

>

> - the dad's specific immunity prob plays a big role in here

somewhere too

>

> - mom's impaired ability to impart immunity to kid in utero and

through

> breastfeeding (due to the fact that most women of childbearing age

have

> themselves been vaccinated out the ying yang)

>

> - antibiotics in labor that strip the child's gut of all good

intestinal

> flora (think about the GBS protocol that calls for an antibiotic

drip every

> FOUR hours until you give birth - now in the UK, they handle GBS+

> differently from what I understand; and many midwives follow a

different

> protocol that protects the kid from possible GBS but doesn't

subject mom or

> baby to antibiotics)

>

> - pitocin, if it is a factor

>

> - genetic predisposition in the kid that may include impaired liver

function

> and impaired methylation (lecture at mini DAN! this past weekend

went on at

> length about this)

>

> - many people then go on to do the Hep B vaccine right away

>

>

>

> And that's all BEFORE we start talking about thimerosol in the

actual KID.

>

>

>

> But back to Pitocin. Here are a few relevant links for those who

are

> interested:

>

>

>

> Pitocin

>

> http://www.kingpharm.com/uploads/pdf_inserts/Pitocin_PI.pdf

>

>

>

> Pitocin and autism - speculations

>

>

http://www.collegeofmidwives.org/temporary02/Book_One_Chr_9_Sept02.htm

>

>

>

> Pitocin and class action law suit - preservative chlorobutanol

>

>

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2001/PitocinLawsuit.htm

>

>

>

> http://www.pitocin.bizland.com/storyboard1/_disc2/00000071.htm

>

>

>

> Chlorobutanol - the preservative in pitocin

>

> http://www.athenstaedt.de/englisch/chemikalien/haupt.htm

>

>

>

>