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look at www.greatplainslaboratory.com, also go to a DAN doctor

At 07:35 PM 12/23/01 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi. My nephew has been diagnosed ADD/ADHD. I *do* think this is an

>overdiagnosed condition ($$$) but there is a problem w/ him....let me

>give background information.

>

>He is in 1st grade and acts out (a lot). Always doing things he's not

>suppose to do, anger issues, can't sit still, poor student,

>etc.... " classic " signs of ADD. My sister would like for me to give

>her some alternative to the awful meds he's currently on (Ritalin).

>While on the Ritalin he is zombie like....no appetite....very quiet, etc.

>

>I have already suggested to cut out his diary (heavy diary fellow) and

>refined sugars, etc (he's also had ear problems)....

>

>Does anyone have in links or books to offer me on natural remedies for

>ADD-like behaviors.

>

>TIA.

>

>April McConnell

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There is on that I have found to be excellent. It's called Special Diets for

Special Kids. It covers all of those issues. Also, as I'm sure Sheri will

suggest ;-), see if you can get your sister to take him to a classical

homoeopath.

Best of luck,

Meryl

ADD/ADHD

Hi. My nephew has been diagnosed ADD/ADHD. I *do* think this is an

overdiagnosed condition ($$$) but there is a problem w/ him....let me

give background information.

He is in 1st grade and acts out (a lot). Always doing things he's not

suppose to do, anger issues, can't sit still, poor student,

etc.... " classic " signs of ADD. My sister would like for me to give

her some alternative to the awful meds he's currently on (Ritalin).

While on the Ritalin he is zombie like....no appetite....very quiet, etc.

I have already suggested to cut out his diary (heavy diary fellow) and

refined sugars, etc (he's also had ear problems)....

Does anyone have in links or books to offer me on natural remedies for

ADD-like behaviors.

TIA.

April McConnell

http://www.cottonpickndiapers.com

The BEST CottonPickNDiapers Around!!!

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Yes, diet is usually part of the issue,

but please, please get this child to a homeopath while there is still hope

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/STEVELIST.htm

A great book - Ritalin-Free Kids

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0761527699/ref=ase_wellwithinA/103-09

59395-1668617

Shows how these children are helped with homeopathy but NOT SOMETHING you

can treat yourself - don't even try. You could mess things up permanently.

Sheri

At 07:35 PM 12/23/2001 -0000, you wrote:

>Hi. My nephew has been diagnosed ADD/ADHD. I *do* think this is an

>overdiagnosed condition ($$$) but there is a problem w/ him....let me

>give background information.

>

>He is in 1st grade and acts out (a lot). Always doing things he's not

>suppose to do, anger issues, can't sit still, poor student,

>etc.... " classic " signs of ADD. My sister would like for me to give

>her some alternative to the awful meds he's currently on (Ritalin).

>While on the Ritalin he is zombie like....no appetite....very quiet, etc.

>

>I have already suggested to cut out his diary (heavy diary fellow) and

>refined sugars, etc (he's also had ear problems)....

>

>Does anyone have in links or books to offer me on natural remedies for

>ADD-like behaviors.

>

>TIA.

>

>April McConnell

>http://www.cottonpickndiapers.com

>The BEST CottonPickNDiapers Around!!!

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In a message dated 12-23-01 1:36:12 PM Central Standard Time,

aprilmcconnell@... writes:

<< I have already suggested to cut out his diary (heavy diary fellow) and

refined sugars, etc (he's also had ear problems)....

Does anyone have in links or books to offer me on natural remedies for

ADD-like behaviors. >>

April,

Doris Rapp has a book out called something like " Is this my child " It has

great input into the issue of diet and ADD, ADHD, etc.

Check it out!

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Hi April,

The book I would suggest is the Essential Oils Desk Refrerence. Essential oils

can be beneficial for both ear problems and ADD. Their natural chemical

constituents can be relaxing, calming, quieting, help to bring focus,support

neurotransmitters, anti-infectious etc. You may find an oil blend such as Peace

and Calming to be a healthy alternative to Ritalin. They help to support the

mind and body helping to bring balance. Scientifically they have been shown

to be effective for ADD. Basic information can be found on my website.

Sincerely,

http://my.youngliving.com/EZorder

decandlil <aprilmcconnell@...> wrote:

Hi.

(he's also had ear problems)....

Does anyone have in links or books to offer me on natural remedies for

ADD-like behaviors.

TIA.

April McConnell

http://www.cottonpickndiapers.com

The BEST CottonPickNDiapers Around!!!

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aprilmcconnell@... writes:

> Does anyone have in links or books to offer me on natural remedies for

> ADD-like behaviors.

>

> TIA.

>

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April, cheryl stoycoff switched her adhd son to a raw food diet with huge

improvements. he is no longer adhd. you can buy her book off her website.

http://cherylstoycoff.com/rawkids.htm

kim

ps here is some info about her book:

> >> A Note From the Author:We began transitioning our children to a raw food

>> diet over a year ago as an experiment to alleviate the symptoms of ADD my

>> eight year old son was experiencing. I’m happy to say that the experiment

>> was astonishingly successful! We have been delighted at the changes in my

>> son’s behavior and capabilities, which occurred almost immediately. His

>> moodiness, irritability and inability to concentrate were gone. His mental

>> processes cleared, his memory improved and so did his performance in

>> school.When we began the transition, I looked everywhere for advice and

>> assistance. Although I found many helpful people and wonderful books about

>> the raw food diet, I was unable to find anything dealing specifically with

>> children. There are many things that come up as you change your child’s

>> diet; the special nutritional needs of children, social gatherings,

>> disapproving relatives, school functions and sack lunches, your own

>> self–doubts, children who don’t want to try new foods, and the attitude

>> of other family members, just to name a few. When my son’s story was

>> published in <A HREF= " http://www.living-foods.com/livingnutrition " >Living

Nutrition Magazine</A> with the title Triumph over

>> Attention Deficient Disorder – Stoycoff’s Story, I began getting

>> inquiries from other parents eager to change their children’s diets and

>> needing advice and guidance. Raw Kids is my attempt to fill this need. I

>> hope our experience can help pave the way for those wishing to improve

>> their children’s diets and quality of life.<A

HREF= " http://cherylstoycoff.com/#Top " >Back to top</A>>Reviews for Raw Kids "

>> Raw Kids is an extremely helpful guide book for anyone trying to improve

>> their family's diet and transition to raw living foods. Solomae has done

>> an excellent job, I couldn't put it down until I finished it. " - Rose Lee

>> Calabro, author of Living in the Raw " Raw Kids is an inspiring 'how to'. I

>> recommend it to every parent. " - Klein, Editor -Living Nutrition

>> Magazine

> > Table of Contents:

Introduction

1 You are the Key

2 Child Psychology

3 The Outside World (School Lunches / Social Gatherings / Relatives)

4 Nutritional Issues (What About Protein? / What About Calories?)

5 The Diet-Behavior Connection

6 Spiritual Issues

7 Meal Ideas

8 Helpful Equipment

9 Recipes

The Art of Salad

Taco Salad / Easy Guacamole

Sprouting

Buckwheat Breakfast Cereal

Vegetable Crackers

Raw Hummus

Marinated Vegetable Salad

Spinach Sprout Salad

Kale Salad

Raw Pasta Sauce

Apple Carrot Salad

Smoothies

Chocolate Shake

Banana Coconut Salad

Fruit Sauces

Apple Raisin Cookies

Bibliography / Raw and Living Food Resources

In a message dated 12/23/2001 1:36:17 PM Central Standard Time,

aprilmcconnell@... writes:

> Does anyone have in links or books to offer me on natural remedies for

> ADD-like behaviors.

>

> TIA.

>

April

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  • 2 years later...

heh reminded me when i was living in an african villiage and there were

three ladies who wandered around and all the villagers told me they were

crazy and the people just ignored them and kinda avoided them so they didnt

ahve anywhere to live or anyway to feed themselves really :(

add/adhd

> I agree with Gracia. It's just another label they slap on us in order

> to increase their bottom line. I know in the state that I live schools

> actually receive extra money for every child diagnosed and MEDICATED

> within the school system. To the tune of more than 2,000.00 per child.

> They are considered at that point to have a " disability " .

> WHATEVER.

> How about this as the explanation: Maybe, just maybe we human animals

> live in an environment that is not meant to be. Maybe, we aren't

designed

> to balance a checkbook? or focus on any one thing for too long, so that

> we keep on moving... looking for food, caring for our young etc...

> LIVING. Maybe we can't sit still for extended periods of time without

> becoming agitated because we aren't supposed to!

> Sitting still for too long might make us another animals' dinner!

> Think about it. We are the only society that has mental illness.

> It is virtually unheard of in third world countries. There is no add/

adhd

> in the rainforest... why? they live like nature intended them to live.

> Simply... freely... naturally....No corporate ladders to climb, no

football

> practice to race to, no bills to pay, no daycare nightmares, the list

> goes on.

> Honestly, we do not live in a world that is conducive to good mental

> or physical health, because it is NOT the world that meant for us.

>

>

>

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I agree that YES way to many kids who are within normal range of being

normal hyper kids are being put on medication needlessly. This is

unfortunate. It also gives out a misconception for the disorder in general

that people that has formed the same opinion as you who gives an upper

eyebrow to the parents of kids that truly need meds.

Meds are a true blessing for the ones who really need it! Without meds my

two sons are in their own little world, not much goes in including anything

from anyone. Can you imagine your children waking up full blast every

morning? Speaking from my heart I know my children would be dumb as dirt

without medication. The benefits my children have had since they was able to

get diagnosis and properly treated is they both are extremely intelligent,

both are avid readers. My oldest son was reading on a 7th grade level in 2nd

grade. They both are in merit. They still struggle on a day to day basis to

stay on task. I see their frustrations and truly understand what they are

going through for I experience ADD symptoms and have every day of my life

for as early as I can remember.

The difference of my children is like night & day (medicated vs

nonmedicated)

I still think the disorder could be a subdisorder of thyroid or hormonal

imbalance.

Not everything is the docs trying to make another buck. I thank God that we

are fortunate enough to have identified the problem and getting the help we

need. I'm just waiting on the day for the cure. Believe me it is a serious

condition that without treatment can drastically alter a person's life.

-Dana

-- add/adhd

I agree with Gracia. It's just another label they slap on us in order

to increase their bottom line. I know in the state that I live schools

actually receive extra money for every child diagnosed and MEDICATED

within the school system. To the tune of more than 2,000.00 per child.

They are considered at that point to have a " disability " .

WHATEVER.

How about this as the explanation: Maybe, just maybe we human animals

live in an environment that is not meant to be. Maybe, we aren't designed

to balance a checkbook? or focus on any one thing for too long, so that

we keep on moving... looking for food, caring for our young etc...

LIVING. Maybe we can't sit still for extended periods of time without

becoming agitated because we aren't supposed to!

Sitting still for too long might make us another animals' dinner!

Think about it. We are the only society that has mental illness.

It is virtually unheard of in third world countries. There is no add/ adhd

in the rainforest... why? they live like nature intended them to live.

Simply... freely... naturally....No corporate ladders to climb, no football

practice to race to, no bills to pay, no daycare nightmares, the list

goes on.

Honestly, we do not live in a world that is conducive to good mental

or physical health, because it is NOT the world that meant for us.

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thyroid meds like Armour do several things----calm down the nervous system

enormously and allow the brain to focus and think clearly. After I had a

partial thyroidectomy I was unable to read, think or talk! I didn't get

thyroid meds for 30 years so my most productive years were lost to me. Also

cod liver oil is WONDERFUL brain food. We have a deficiency in omega 3

EFAs because of infant formula (very deficient in EFAs and other nutrients

important for brain development), and because of hydrogenated oils used in

all processed foods. Also eggs used to be a great source of omega 3s but

now we get eggs from cage raised chickens, not so healthy.

So I understand that drugs work, but your kids may thank you if you give

them what their bodies need instead.

http://www.westonaprice.org

Gracia

> I agree that YES way to many kids who are within normal range of being

> normal hyper kids are being put on medication needlessly. This is

> unfortunate. It also gives out a misconception for the disorder in general

> that people that has formed the same opinion as you who gives an upper

> eyebrow to the parents of kids that truly need meds.

> Meds are a true blessing for the ones who really need it!

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i wholeheartly agree...third world countries unless they have been

introduced to western food, have no cavities, no mental illness and i bet

they are a lot happier..in fact i know it!!

>From: Aprilcupcake@...

>Reply-hypothyroidism

>hypothyroidism

>Subject: add/adhd

>Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:57:44 EST

>

>I agree with Gracia. It's just another label they slap on us in order

>to increase their bottom line. I know in the state that I live schools

>actually receive extra money for every child diagnosed and MEDICATED

>within the school system. To the tune of more than 2,000.00 per child.

>They are considered at that point to have a " disability " .

>WHATEVER.

>How about this as the explanation: Maybe, just maybe we human animals

>live in an environment that is not meant to be. Maybe, we aren't designed

>to balance a checkbook? or focus on any one thing for too long, so that

>we keep on moving... looking for food, caring for our young etc...

>LIVING. Maybe we can't sit still for extended periods of time without

>becoming agitated because we aren't supposed to!

>Sitting still for too long might make us another animals' dinner!

>Think about it. We are the only society that has mental illness.

>It is virtually unheard of in third world countries. There is no add/ adhd

>in the rainforest... why? they live like nature intended them to live.

>Simply... freely... naturally....No corporate ladders to climb, no football

>practice to race to, no bills to pay, no daycare nightmares, the list

>goes on.

>Honestly, we do not live in a world that is conducive to good mental

>or physical health, because it is NOT the world that meant for us.

>

>

>

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i love your theory! you are right on! i have to remember this one!!!

i can sit still, but not for a long time. for many, many years, i' get like i'm

just gonna burst inside if i can't release some energy. you know, i just run

(literally) out of the house. and that's so freeing. finally...

sometimes my husband and I skip together. it's silly, but it's so lovely. i've

been into dance for years...again, the movement makes me feel alive and free.

maybe by other people's standards i sound like i have ADHD, but to me THEY are

the ones who are different.

In my opnion, I'm perfectly normal. maybe i was a monkey in another life,

swinging from tree to tree... LOL.

Hugs, Sheila

Aprilcupcake@... wrote:

I agree with Gracia. It's just another label they slap on us in order

to increase their bottom line. I know in the state that I live schools

actually receive extra money for every child diagnosed and MEDICATED

within the school system. To the tune of more than 2,000.00 per child.

They are considered at that point to have a " disability " .

WHATEVER.

How about this as the explanation: Maybe, just maybe we human animals

live in an environment that is not meant to be. Maybe, we aren't designed

to balance a checkbook? or focus on any one thing for too long, so that

we keep on moving... looking for food, caring for our young etc...

LIVING. Maybe we can't sit still for extended periods of time without

becoming agitated because we aren't supposed to!

Sitting still for too long might make us another animals' dinner!

Think about it. We are the only society that has mental illness.

It is virtually unheard of in third world countries. There is no add/ adhd

in the rainforest... why? they live like nature intended them to live.

Simply... freely... naturally....No corporate ladders to climb, no football

practice to race to, no bills to pay, no daycare nightmares, the list

goes on.

Honestly, we do not live in a world that is conducive to good mental

or physical health, because it is NOT the world that meant for us.

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I try to buy organic eggs once in a while and that's all I give to Abby. It

says on the package that they have the omegas. :)

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From: " Gracia " <circe@...>

Reply-hypothyroidism

<hypothyroidism >

Subject: Re: add/adhd

Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:31:46 -0500

thyroid meds like Armour do several things----calm down the nervous system

enormously and allow the brain to focus and think clearly. After I had a

partial thyroidectomy I was unable to read, think or talk! I didn't get

thyroid meds for 30 years so my most productive years were lost to me. Also

cod liver oil is WONDERFUL brain food. We have a deficiency in omega 3

EFAs because of infant formula (very deficient in EFAs and other nutrients

important for brain development), and because of hydrogenated oils used in

all processed foods. Also eggs used to be a great source of omega 3s but

now we get eggs from cage raised chickens, not so healthy.

So I understand that drugs work, but your kids may thank you if you give

them what their bodies need instead.

http://www.westonaprice.org

Gracia

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When my 8 yr old first started kindergarten(public school) three yrs

ago,I was aproached by the school and told my son had symptoms of ADD

and he needed to be tested.He had been in private pre-school for two

years before public kindergarten and had no problems at all.I was told

to get him tested or he would not be allowed to return to school......So

I did some searching to find out why he was having problems....Here is

what the REAL problem was.....When my son was 2,I discovered he had an

allergy to red dyes and chocolate.These two things make him VERY

hyper!!...I had a great pediatrician that believed in nutrition before

drugs...thank god!..SOO....Come to find out that even though I was

making my son his lunch for school everyday,turns out he was getting ice

cream coupons from the library for exellent reading.Ofcourse what type

of ice cream were they giving out???.....chocolate and

strawberry!!!!.....problem solved WITHOUT drugs.....the school systems

are quick to jump because they don't want to deal with a " problem " child

yet they are the ones causing the problem.I tried to get them to limit

these two allergy causing foods in their school and Ofcourse no one

would listen...There are MANY studies on this problem of red

dye(especially #40) and chocolate in children and if more doctors would

get smart and choose nutrition first,I am sure half or more of the

children on meds would not need them.Anyway,sorry for the long

post,hehehe...Deneen:):)

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That is such a good example of allergies being mistaken for true ADHD.

Good for you that you didn't have a doctor that just handed you a

prescription needlessly! I agree doctors gives out meds way to easily just

because the school recommended it.

On the same token, the ones who have true ADHD meds are a blessing.

Take care!

-Dana

-- Re: add/adhd

When my 8 yr old first started kindergarten(public school) three yrs

ago,I was aproached by the school and told my son had symptoms of ADD

and he needed to be tested.He had been in private pre-school for two

years before public kindergarten and had no problems at all.I was told

to get him tested or he would not be allowed to return to school......So

I did some searching to find out why he was having problems....Here is

what the REAL problem was.....When my son was 2,I discovered he had an

allergy to red dyes and chocolate.These two things make him VERY

hyper!!...I had a great pediatrician that believed in nutrition before

drugs...thank god!..SOO....Come to find out that even though I was

making my son his lunch for school everyday,turns out he was getting ice

cream coupons from the library for exellent reading.Ofcourse what type

of ice cream were they giving out???.....chocolate and

strawberry!!!!.....problem solved WITHOUT drugs.....the school systems

are quick to jump because they don't want to deal with a " problem " child

yet they are the ones causing the problem.I tried to get them to limit

these two allergy causing foods in their school and Ofcourse no one

would listen...There are MANY studies on this problem of red

dye(especially #40) and chocolate in children and if more doctors would

get smart and choose nutrition first,I am sure half or more of the

children on meds would not need them.Anyway,sorry for the long

post,hehehe...Deneen:):)

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where I was they had cavities.. but are soooo happy.. i almost didnt come

home to the usa.. i mean who knew how much of a tighter family unit you

could ahve without tv.. the closer to the city i got where they had 1 tv

station the family started breaking apart.. coicidence? i dunno.. but MAN

everything was so.. like your family we take care of you period.. even if

you mooch for the reast of your life theres no banishment nothing.. ive

never felt so loved and by strangers than my own family back at home.. i

easily woulda stayed there forever if there was more than 1 dr for the

entire country (i was in the hospital once there and basically it sucks..a

nd you can get any prescription without a prescript over hte counter and

basically the pharmasict just says ok you ahve a throat problem here some

anitbiotics or whatever lol.. basically what i do here anyways.. diagnose

myself while the dr's pretend they have better things to do like golf

add/adhd

> >Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:57:44 EST

> >

> >I agree with Gracia. It's just another label they slap on us in order

> >to increase their bottom line. I know in the state that I live schools

> >actually receive extra money for every child diagnosed and MEDICATED

> >within the school system. To the tune of more than 2,000.00 per child.

> >They are considered at that point to have a " disability " .

> >WHATEVER.

> >How about this as the explanation: Maybe, just maybe we human animals

> >live in an environment that is not meant to be. Maybe, we aren't

designed

> >to balance a checkbook? or focus on any one thing for too long, so that

> >we keep on moving... looking for food, caring for our young etc...

> >LIVING. Maybe we can't sit still for extended periods of time without

> >becoming agitated because we aren't supposed to!

> >Sitting still for too long might make us another animals' dinner!

> >Think about it. We are the only society that has mental illness.

> >It is virtually unheard of in third world countries. There is no add/

adhd

> >in the rainforest... why? they live like nature intended them to live.

> >Simply... freely... naturally....No corporate ladders to climb, no

football

> >practice to race to, no bills to pay, no daycare nightmares, the list

> >goes on.

> >Honestly, we do not live in a world that is conducive to good mental

> >or physical health, because it is NOT the world that meant for us.

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks Deneen, That's very important to look at. I too send my

children lunch, but it isn't always what they eat. They often trade

food with friends, and of course there are pop machines everywhere!

Pop machines are not allowed in schools that have a federally funded

lunch program.. our school gets away with it as a " charter " school.

They make way more money off of pop sales anyway.

And they get the pop for free!

Pepsi and Coke are just " pushers " . They get your kids hooked,

hoping you will buy more outside the school environment.

My ex-husband still has severe reactions to red dye and chocolate.

terrible migraines. So this sensitivity can carry on into adulthood.

But, it isn't a mystery really, red dye and chocolate and soda

aren't exactly found in " the wild " . And that's why we have allergies.

We aren't supposed to put those things in our bodies anyway.

There must be a way to change school policy regarding this stuff!

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Hello,

We have started my daughter on DMAE for inattentive problems. Her teacher

told us what a difference she has noticed when she takes it. You may want to

try this.

Kathy, Mom to Maggie and Ricky

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What's DMAE (for us newbies)?

Thanks!

kgsprout@... wrote:

Hello,

We have started my daughter on DMAE for inattentive problems. Her teacher

told us what a difference she has noticed when she takes it. You may want to

try this.

Kathy, Mom to Maggie and Ricky

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Hi - I just googled DMAE and read some interesting stuff - could

you tell more about how you are using it - how much , etc. are

you using it with enzymes too - we are just starting the Houston

enzymes...

Thanks Sue

> Hello,

>

> We have started my daughter on DMAE for inattentive

problems. Her teacher

> told us what a difference she has noticed when she takes it.

You may want to

> try this.

>

> Kathy, Mom to Maggie and Ricky

>

>

>

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