Re: Expected behaviors with first couple weeks of enzymes?? PCA-Rx?? .

[Guest guest]

--Thanks so much for your reply. I will reduce the no-fenol.

Today at daycare my son was not following directions, running off

the playground, and could/would not sit in circle due to screaming.

I have noticed at home it is MUCH harder to get his attention. We

have an ABA/VB program. He still answers questions, but after much

redirection, and now is echoing back the question, unless we totally

can get his full attention. But like I said, his language seems to

really be getting better. For example when we were driving in the

car, he commented on the trees outside, and is using 4 word

sentences more and more. It's interesting you mention the die off

with the no-fenol, because my son has never been treated for yeast.

I have strongly suspected he has a yeast problem!! I made some of

the epsom salt lotion you suggested in your book, and put it on my

son before bed. Will the calming effects last into the next day? Or

should I put it on again in the morning, or only in the morning? The

chewables aren't bad. I tried one, they taste somewhat like a bad

sweetart, and this is probably why my son will eat them (he hardly

ever gets candy). I think I will wait on the PCA-RX until the

enzymes are underway. Thanks so much for all your help!! I don't

know where we would be without these groups and people like you!! It

helps me to keep striving for more ways to help my son.

Maureen.

-- In , " jornmatt " <kjorn@t...>

wrote:

> >>>His language is noticably improved--so I don't want to stop the

> enzymes.

>

> This is a very good sign. When you see positive improvements along

> with the negatives, it just about always indicates an adjustment

is

> going on and the unwanted behavior ends shortly.

>

> Aggressive behavior is noted with yeast/bacteria die-off. Do you

> think this could be the case? The No-Fenol in particular can cause

a

> big die-off reaction. Adding it with the Zyme Prime might have

been

> too rapid. Both together could sharply reduce a pathogens food

supply

> as the person starts to absorb the food and nutrients instead. Try

> reducing the No-Fenol by at least half and increase it more

> gradually. Also epsom salts might help reduce any die-off related

> discomfort.

>

> www.enzymestuff.com/epsomsalts.htm

>

>

> >>>I also give the chewable AFP; I haven't heard many parents talk

> about the chewable type. I

>

> How are the chewables working out? I tried a bottle and thought

they

> were good. But my kids are 'older' and don't want any 'stuff' in

> their food/drink. They just want to swallow capsules. One thing

with

> the chewable I didn't think of before is that a chewable would

have

> texture to it where the capsules don't. So if your child balks at

any

> type of chewable, see if the texture is an issue. Some chewable

> supplements are rather gritty and don't readily dissolve.

>

>

> >>>> Also, I just read a post by that she used PCA-Rx. Has

> anyone else tried this? From what I have read, the side effects

with

> using this instead of DMSA are much less severe.

>

> I met a few people who were using it before and talked to the

fellow

> in charge of the company and product at a conference a couple

years

> ago. They were very happy with it and the parents even had those

test

> results from the labs showing the colored bars that are suppose to

> indicate metals or toxins coming out. These were the same tests

that

> people commonly run. I haven't heard any negatives about it...the

> worse was that it didn't seem to help.

>

> One of the dads was raving about it because they had done a couple

> years of DMSA (and I think adding in the ALA afterawhile) and he

said

> his son improved more in less than a year on PCA than all the

years

> on other stuff. I don't know if the previous therapies contributed

to

> his success or not.

>

> I also called the Metal-free and NFA companies. A File is in the

File

> section on those conversations.

>

> .

[Guest guest]

>>>I made some of the epsom salt lotion you suggested in your book,

and put it on my son before bed. Will the calming effects last into

the next day?

I hear that the sulfate will last 4 to 9 hours in the system. But

this doesn't really tell you if the 'reaction' will last longer or be

tamed for longer. Just try it a few different ways until you find

what works best for your son. If he does better with more, put more.

If less is better, use less.

I keep the lotion by the telephone on the desk, or below the

microwave. That way it is handy and can apply it several times a day

as I walk by.

>>>>The chewables aren't bad. I tried one, they taste somewhat like a

bad sweetart,

That is my opinion as well. Probably the papain is giving it the

slighly off taste. But it is one of the best tasting chewable

supplements I have had.

.

[Guest guest]

The PCA-Rx, in our case, helped the enzymes work more effectively

(by using less and still seeing results). I have to give more

enzymes when he is off the spray. I just don't think my son can

detox on his own and that causes a variety of issues for him. But I

know he was exposed to high levels of lead over a long period of

time.

Good Luck!

> > >>>His language is noticably improved--so I don't want to stop

the

> > enzymes.

> >

> > This is a very good sign. When you see positive improvements

along

> > with the negatives, it just about always indicates an adjustment

> is

> > going on and the unwanted behavior ends shortly.

> >

> > Aggressive behavior is noted with yeast/bacteria die-off. Do you

> > think this could be the case? The No-Fenol in particular can

cause

> a

> > big die-off reaction. Adding it with the Zyme Prime might have

> been

> > too rapid. Both together could sharply reduce a pathogens food

> supply

> > as the person starts to absorb the food and nutrients instead.

Try

> > reducing the No-Fenol by at least half and increase it more

> > gradually. Also epsom salts might help reduce any die-off

related

> > discomfort.

> >

> > www.enzymestuff.com/epsomsalts.htm

> >

> >

> > >>>I also give the chewable AFP; I haven't heard many parents

talk

> > about the chewable type. I

> >

> > How are the chewables working out? I tried a bottle and thought

> they

> > were good. But my kids are 'older' and don't want any 'stuff' in

> > their food/drink. They just want to swallow capsules. One thing

> with

> > the chewable I didn't think of before is that a chewable would

> have

> > texture to it where the capsules don't. So if your child balks

at

> any

> > type of chewable, see if the texture is an issue. Some chewable

> > supplements are rather gritty and don't readily dissolve.

> >

> >

> > >>>> Also, I just read a post by that she used PCA-Rx.

Has

> > anyone else tried this? From what I have read, the side effects

> with

> > using this instead of DMSA are much less severe.

> >

> > I met a few people who were using it before and talked to the

> fellow

> > in charge of the company and product at a conference a couple

> years

> > ago. They were very happy with it and the parents even had those

> test

> > results from the labs showing the colored bars that are suppose

to

> > indicate metals or toxins coming out. These were the same tests

> that

> > people commonly run. I haven't heard any negatives about

it...the

> > worse was that it didn't seem to help.

> >

> > One of the dads was raving about it because they had done a

couple

> > years of DMSA (and I think adding in the ALA afterawhile) and he

> said

> > his son improved more in less than a year on PCA than all the

> years

> > on other stuff. I don't know if the previous therapies

contributed

> to

> > his success or not.

> >

> > I also called the Metal-free and NFA companies. A File is in the

> File

> > section on those conversations.

> >

> > .